12tm SF 2TE Deep Devy Format
Kamarro Edmonds, JoJo Earle, Grayson McCall, Raheim Sanders
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AJ Dillon, Will Fuller
Kamarro Edmonds, JoJo Earle, Grayson McCall, Raheim Sanders
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AJ Dillon, Will Fuller
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12tm PPR 1QB
Josh Allen
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Deshaun Watson, 22 1st, 22 2nd (both picks from typical non-playoff, weaker team in league)
Josh Allen
FOR
Deshaun Watson, 22 1st, 22 2nd (both picks from typical non-playoff, weaker team in league)
northern exposure
Footballguy
Seems like a lot to give for Herbert. Taking Pittman out might make the deal more palatable.barackdhouse said:
Is Moss, Thaddeus Moss that WFT just released?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
northern exposure
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
lardonastick
Footballguy
12 team .5ppr SF, not involved
Irv Smith
for
2022 2nd
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T. McLaurin
for
1.09, R. Tonyan, A.J. Green,
Irv Smith
for
2022 2nd
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T. McLaurin
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1.09, R. Tonyan, A.J. Green,
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
First one is fair.
Second one is "Fear Factor you have to eat this nastiness" gross.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Dez
Footballguy
Last year if you owned the 1.09 you might have landed Jefferson there. The picks look very bad at the time of trades but then a year later they have a shot to turn into gold worth more than the players you traded away even though at the time the trades seem to be bad.
Last year I personally passed up Jefferson twice at the 1.08. In 3 of my leagues Jefferson went 1.09 or 1.10.
In another I got Swift at 1.08 and in yet another I got Akers at 1.10. Both those guys are worth tons more in startups right that than just about any player you could have possibly traded at the time.
Maybe last year was just an extraordinary draft class.
SF and 0.5PPR? Going to be choosing between Waddle, Smith or the last of the QB’s at 9 in that format. I am not a fan of Tonyan but give me another TE I like better and I would consider that side. As is, a little light as I don’t think many people value Tonyan all that much.
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Snorkelson
Footballguy
This time last year no one was willing to give much for Waller; this year I think tonyan is that guy- but not to the same degree. He should get enough targets and red zone looks to be a decent te this year. He was a te1 last year, and I’d expect him to be there again this year- somewhat depending on what they do in the draft.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I even got Jefferson at 2.01 in a single QB FFPC. Yeah you can probably get a solid WR at 1.09 this year. I'll take the under on them vs Jefferson or McLaurin though. But you are 100% correct that some of those picks can really strike gold. Is that gold worth more than McLaurin though? Even if it does hit it's a lateral play most likely. I didn't see Swift go anywhere that late last year but I did see Akers. Those guys are going ahead of McLaurin and are 1st round startup picks. McLaurin is like late 3rd. Jefferson is 1st round. But it's more likely to be a WR like Waddle/Bateman/Marshall at 1.09 and just how big are they gonna hit? Like Jefferson or a stud RB? IDK. More than McLaurin is about to do with Fitz/Samuel/Gibson/Logan Thomas (and probably at least one more playmaker that they draft)? Highly doubtful. Again even if they hit it is probably a lateral move at best. Counting on McLaurin to drop in value seems dubious to me.
Bottom line the pick has to hit just to break even. The presence of AJ Green on that side of the trade bothers me, too. It makes me think that person actually likes him and considers him of some value more than just a throw in. And Tonyan is ok but that isn't moving any needle. I'd be pretty upset if I was in that league. Shop the pick. I'd *easily* outpay that price for McLaurin. I do know he is older for a 3rd year WR but I don't care.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Would be nice to get another second or so, but I don't hate it. This is the final year to cash out on the 27.5yo running back for multiple firsts before age/carries bleeds his value regardless of how he performs
ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
True enough but as we move closer to (and especially past) the draft even those deals night have fallen off the table.
Only thing you should be having remorse about is the robbery you committed against your fellow leaguemate.
Born to Run
Footballguy
I'm guessin' his team consisted of Cousins, Cook, Jefferson, Smith, Joseph, Min Def and you "generously gave" him Thielen? Second guess would be collusion....
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
So you guys are saying I shouldn't feel bad about rejecting a guy asking for my 2021 1.02 pick in exchange for Thielen?
Dez
Footballguy
Funny how fast things change in the NFL. Last year at this time JuJu was going well before Diggs in startups even with JuJu coming off a down injury year in 2019. I just looked now back on the 3 DFWC startups done last year and this is where these 2 guys went.
JuJu went 25, 23,17
Diggs went 55, 51, 55
So at this time last year you would have needed to have given up Diggs + a 1st and 2nd to just get in the ball park of maybe getting JuJu.
I remember when Hopkins/Patterson came out as rookies were considered a toss up on who to take in rookie drafts then after their 1st year Patterson was going much higher then Hopkins in startups then a couple years later Patterson was a bust and Hopkins was one of the top WR's in the game for a long time.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
To be fair you could easily say the same about Tyreek Hill.
I remember watching him fumble around with routine catches his rookie season while he racked up yards on gadget plays and kick returns and wondering why anyone considered him a real receiver prospect.
12-team 1QB PPR, deeper lineup/rosters
Jeudy
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Lockett, Trautman, 2.04
Jeudy
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Lockett, Trautman, 2.04
JohnnyU
Footballguy
lardonastick
Footballguy
12 team .5 ppr
gave M. Mack
got M. Davis
gave M. Mack
got M. Davis
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Isn’t that like 30 minutes before closing time at a local pub and you’re trying to decide which of the two ugly women left in the bar to buy a drink for?
DropKick
Footballguy
Might depend on my roster but I'll take the youth of Jeudy. 2020 was a unusual year for rookies and Denver wasn't the model of success. In short, I think the book is still out on Jeudy and I'll take that potential.
DropKick
Footballguy
lardonastick
Footballguy
Maybe, but I prefer the one not coming off an achilles injury. Also think Davis will have more opportunities for touches.
Snorkelson
Footballguy
I think Davis will get a lot of work on an underrated offense. He brings some stable production to a team that’s had a lot of volatility at rb.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
You can take it to the bank that Atlanta will draft a RB that will probably be better than Davis. How soon he replaces him is anyone’s guess.
rockaction
Footballguy
This. If you think every player matters, then I think the Davis side made a good deal. Will ATL likely draft a RB? Yes, but you know Taylor and Hines are there in Indy, and Mack is coming off of an Achilles' tear. That usually is not a recipe for success.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Isn’t it bad enough that it’s gotten to that point and you would rather not spend that much money?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
jtd13
Footballguy
At this point it sounds pretty certain that each of Edmunds, Mike Davis, Myles Gaskin, Tevin Coleman, Snell/McFarland, and Moss/Singletary are getting replaced by a top 3 back in this draft 
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One or 2 of these guys is still going to be the starter after the draft. I'm wondering if I should double down in a league where I have a couple of them already!
.One or 2 of these guys is still going to be the starter after the draft. I'm wondering if I should double down in a league where I have a couple of them already!
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I would be trying to get out from under all of them and have for some of them.At this point it sounds pretty certain that each of Edmunds, Mike Davis, Myles Gaskin, Tevin Coleman, Snell/McFarland, and Moss/Singletary are getting replaced by a top 3 back in this draft
One or 2 of these guys is still going to be the starter after the draft. I'm wondering if I should double down in a league where I have a couple of them already!
jtd13
Footballguy
No one's really buying any of them, at least not where I have Edmunds, Gaskin, or Davis. But there aren't that many good RBs in this class. If I've already got those 3, should I go get a few late picks for them, or go buy Tevin Coleman for cheap to increase my chances one gets through the draft as the starter? I'm thinking latter.
rockaction
Footballguy
I can't get anything of value for Edmonds, really. Arizona has the 16th and 49th pick of the draft. I'll be watching with bated breath.At this point it sounds pretty certain that each of Edmunds, Mike Davis, Myles Gaskin, Tevin Coleman, Snell/McFarland, and Moss/Singletary are getting replaced by a top 3 back in this draft
One or 2 of these guys is still going to be the starter after the draft.
rockaction
Footballguy
This is where I am. I wouldn't voluntarily buy Tevin Coleman, though. He looked like utter toast last year, and he didn't get any younger. Just maybe healthier for a spell.
