****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (27 Viewers)

[kutta]

I am still a big believer in Miles so I'll take that side with the two better, proven WR assets to boot

Interesting. I like the Cook side and didn't think it was all that close. But then again, I'm a big Shenault believer too.

 

[Tau837]

12 team PPR

Team A gives Winston, Jameis NOS QB; Kelce, Travis KCC TE; Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick (should be late)

Team B gives Allen, Keenan LAC WR; Pittman, Michael IND WR

Kelce and it’s not close.

Interesting. Hindery's last trade chart shows it as:

• Team A gets Allen (23) and Pittman (11) = 34
  
• Team B gets Winston (1), Kelce (25), Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick (should be late) = 27 + pick
  

Not to say Hindery's trade chart is the be all, end all, but that doesn't show this as a "not close" trade.

Beyond that:

• Team A gave Winston but has Wilson, Burrow, and Watson remaining in a start 1 QB league
  
• Team A gave Kelce but has Kittle, Everett, and Howard remaining at TE
  
• Team A's best WR prior to the trade was Chark
  
• Kelce turns 32 in October; Allen is ~2.5 years younger
  

 

[The Future Champs]

Interesting. Hindery's last trade chart shows it as:

• Team A gets Allen (23) and Pittman (11) = 34
  
• Team B gets Winston (1), Kelce (25), Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick (should be late) = 27 + pick
  

Not to say Hindery's trade chart is the be all, end all, but that doesn't show this as a "not close" trade.

Beyond that:

• Team A gave Winston but has Wilson, Burrow, and Watson remaining in a start 1 QB league
  
• Team A gave Kelce but has Kittle, Everett, and Howard remaining at TE
  
• Team A's best WR prior to the trade was Chark
  
• Kelce turns 32 in October; Allen is ~2.5 years younger
  

Understood, my “not close” comment reflects my personal evaluation.   I think Allen is much more replaceable.

 

[Birdie048]

Team A gives: D Cook, L Shenault, B Cooks

Team B gives: M Sanders, M Evans, A Robinson

I am still a big believer in Miles so I'll take that side with the two better, proven WR assets to boot

Interesting. I like the Cook side and didn't think it was all that close. But then again, I'm a big Shenault believer too.

I agree @kutta  Sanders is on a train wreck of an offense ... they don't trust the QB, the WR are marginal player nobody heard of (outside of Deva the Slim).  The OL is a wreck.  I can't see them being worth any real assets in fantasy. 

 

[Birdie048]

12 team PPR

Team A gives Winston, Jameis NOS QB; Kelce, Travis KCC TE; Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick (should be late)

Team B gives Allen, Keenan LAC WR; Pittman, Michael IND WR

Kelce and it’s not close.

Kelce is on the waning end of his career and his injury risk is too high to pay that price to acquire him IMO. 

Pittman is undervalued IMO and with Hilton out several weeks, he will be primary target.  Keenan is elite.  

Winston has too many warts to be much value in a 1QB league.  

 

[The Future Champs]

Kelce is on the waning end of his career and his injury risk is too high to pay that price to acquire him IMO. 

Pittman is undervalued IMO and with Hilton out several weeks, he will be primary target.  Keenan is elite.  

Winston has too many warts to be much value in a 1QB league.  

Look, I hear you, but I think Kelce is still an elite producer for another two years, at a position of extreme scarcity.  It’s extremely difficult to trade for or draft elite TE production.  I don’t think Pittman is undervalued on the Hindery chart; he’s an intriguing young player with a definite upside, but all the other players at his price point have equally positive aspects.

 

[Birdie048]

Look, I hear you, but I think Kelce is still an elite producer for another two years, at a position of extreme scarcity.  It’s extremely difficult to trade for or draft elite TE production.  I don’t think Pittman is undervalued on the Hindery chart; he’s an intriguing young player with a definite upside, but all the other players at his price point have equally positive aspects.

In a Win Now scenario, it makes sense.  But it was a steep price but a reasonable deal.  

I guess I am biased as my team is in "rebuild" from the ashes....  and a 32 yo TE is not in my window. 

 

[Jayded]

Finally pulled the trigger on a long debated trade in my head after the weekend news (first deal below). I separately swung a deal with another owner that freed up valuable bench space, but for a player I regretted trading earlier this offseason (he's come all the way back around home - Woods)

PPR, TE Premium, Devy Dynasty, Start 11 offensive players

First Deal:
I gave : Keke Coutee, 2022 3rd Round Pick
I get : Parris Campbell

Second Deal:
I gave : Marvin Jones, Jadon Haselwood (2022 Devy WR, OU), Myles Murphy (2024 Devy DL, Clemson)
I got : Robert Woods, Rayshawn Jenkins, 2022 6th Round Pick

 

[Tau837]

Look, I hear you, but I think Kelce is still an elite producer for another two years, at a position of extreme scarcity.  It’s extremely difficult to trade for or draft elite TE production.  I don’t think Pittman is undervalued on the Hindery chart; he’s an intriguing young player with a definite upside, but all the other players at his price point have equally positive aspects.

In a Win Now scenario, it makes sense.  But it was a steep price but a reasonable deal.  

I guess I am biased as my team is in "rebuild" from the ashes....  and a 32 yo TE is not in my window.

I appreciate the discussion. My team got Allen and Pittman.

My team has had Kelce since the league startup draft in 2013 and lost in the championship game in 2017, 2019 and 2020 (lost in semis in 2018) and has not won a championship to date despite being a regular contender. This despite being strong at QB (Wilson, Watson), RB (Barkley, Gurley, Chubb, Ekeler, Carson) and TE (Kelce, Kittle). WR was the big hole, and we start 3-5. With Kelce coming off his likely career best season and turning 32, and with Kittle, Everett, and Howard remaining at TE, it seemed reasonable to try to trade Kelce now for useful WR help. Allen immediately becomes WR1, and Pittman slots into the starting rotation (start 3-4 WRs in 12 team league). There was no better offer to be had, after many offers were made and rejected.

This trade may turn out to be a mistake, but I like the odds of it working out positively given the situation.

 

[Ridgeback]

12 Team PPR

Team A gets M Pittman

Team B gets 2021 2.1 and 2022 3rd.

 

[The Future Champs]

I appreciate the discussion. My team got Allen and Pittman.

My team has had Kelce since the league startup draft in 2013 and lost in the championship game in 2017, 2019 and 2020 (lost in semis in 2018) and has not won a championship to date despite being a regular contender. This despite being strong at QB (Wilson, Watson), RB (Barkley, Gurley, Chubb, Ekeler, Carson) and TE (Kelce, Kittle). WR was the big hole, and we start 3-5. With Kelce coming off his likely career best season and turning 32, and with Kittle, Everett, and Howard remaining at TE, it seemed reasonable to try to trade Kelce now for useful WR help. Allen immediately becomes WR1, and Pittman slots into the starting rotation (start 3-4 WRs in 12 team league). There was no better offer to be had, after many offers were made and rejected.

This trade may turn out to be a mistake, but I like the odds of it working out positively given the situation.

Given your situation, and particularly with Kittle as a replacement, it makes perfect sense to take that trade. 

 

[The Future Champs]

12 Team PPR

Team A gets M Pittman

Team B gets 2021 2.1 and 2022 3rd.

Pittman.   2.1 this year nets a nice WR prospect who hasn’t shown anything in a real NFL game.   

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Team A gives: D Cook, L Shenault, B Cooks

Team B gives: M Sanders, M Evans, A Robinson

Cook side for me. I love Evans & ARob, but not the downgrade to Sanders. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team PPR

Team A gives Winston, Jameis NOS QB; Kelce, Travis KCC TE; Year 2022 Round 2 Draft Pick (should be late)

Team B gives Allen, Keenan LAC WR; Pittman, Michael IND WR

Kelce side. I love Pittman, but that’s a lot. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 Team PPR

Team A gets M Pittman

Team B gets 2021 2.1 and 2022 3rd.

Pittman. I paid a 2023 1st & 2022 2nd for him. 

 

[NDyse10]

10 team non-ppr dynasty

Team A: Nick Chubb and 5.04

Team B: Davante Adams and 2.06

 

[The Future Champs]

10 team non-ppr dynasty

Team A: Nick Chubb and 5.04

Team B: Davante Adams and 2.06

I’d go Chubb, but I don’t play non-ppr, so that’s just gut instinct.   

 

[mcintyre1]

12 Team PPR SF

Team A gets: Joe Burrow, Devonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle, 2023 1st (likely late)

Team B gets: Josh Herbert, Robert Woods, Tyler Lockett

I'm team A and was stuck in a weird position where I had some vets I needed to move to actually bottom out on a rebuild. I still have Mahomes as my QB1 and I liked Burrow a lot in the draft last year. For my own personal rankings felt like a potentially lateral move at QB in order to turn my older WRs into young potential and pick up a future 1st too.

 

[The Future Champs]

 12 team ppr, lots of keepers (3 rb, 5 wr, 2 qb, 2 te) (start 2-3rb, 3-5 wr, 1qb, 1-2te) (mini dynasty, so posting here)

Gave: M Evans, M Gaskin, 1.09

Got: 1.02.   Opened slot to keep Shenault.  Gaskin was going to be thrown back if no trade was found.

 

[The Future Champs]

12 Team PPR SF

Team A gets: Joe Burrow, Devonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle, 2023 1st (likely late)

Team B gets: Josh Herbert, Robert Woods, Tyler Lockett

I'm team A and was stuck in a weird position where I had some vets I needed to move to actually bottom out on a rebuild. I still have Mahomes as my QB1 and I liked Burrow a lot in the draft last year. For my own personal rankings felt like a potentially lateral move at QB in order to turn my older WRs into young potential and pick up a future 1st too.

I think Waddle and Smith produce well enough this year that you won’t really bottom out, and that looks like a good trade for a rebuilding team.

 

[mcintyre1]

I think Waddle and Smith produce well enough this year that you won’t really bottom out, and that looks like a good trade for a rebuilding team.

Yeah, we'll see. The starting lineups are pretty big (1QB 2RB 2WR 2FLEX 1SF) and my other starters aren't very good. I'm currently rocking a RB group that's basically Melvin Gordon / Javonte Williams, and Damien Harris / Rhamondre Stevenson. I drafted Javonte & Etienne w/ late 1sts this year, and grabbed 5 WRs in the 2nd round (Elijah Moore, St. Brown, Dyami Brown, Nico Collins, and Kadarius Toney).

 

[mcintyre1]

 12 team ppr, lots of keepers (3 rb, 5 wr, 2 qb, 2 te) (start 2-3rb, 3-5 wr, 1qb, 1-2te) (mini dynasty, so posting here)

Gave: M Evans, M Gaskin, 1.09

Got: 1.02.   Opened slot to keep Shenault.  Gaskin was going to be thrown back if no trade was found.

I've never really waded into the Keeper waters so hard for me to evaluate, but as you've described it  I think that's a good move to get up and grab a better player as a future keeper. Who you thinking at 1.02?

 

[mzkp54]

16 team empire league. Tiered PPR. 0.2 PPC. 

Gave: 2 ‘22 1sts, ‘23 1st, ‘22 2nd, Ty Johnson 

Got: Najee Harris, Diontae Johnson

I’m the heavy favorite with a win now squad so figured I may as well push all my chips in. Picks should all be late 

 

[SayWhat?]

12 Team PPR SF

Team A gets: Joe Burrow, Devonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle, 2023 1st (likely late)

Team B gets: Josh Herbert, Robert Woods, Tyler Lockett

I'm team A and was stuck in a weird position where I had some vets I needed to move to actually bottom out on a rebuild. I still have Mahomes as my QB1 and I liked Burrow a lot in the draft last year. For my own personal rankings felt like a potentially lateral move at QB in order to turn my older WRs into young potential and pick up a future 1st too.

No idea how you got a 1st thrown into that deal. Amazing job.  

 

[mcintyre1]

12 Team PPR SF

Team A gets: Joe Burrow, Devonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle, 2023 1st (likely late)

Team B gets: Josh Herbert, Robert Woods, Tyler Lockett

I'm team A and was stuck in a weird position where I had some vets I needed to move to actually bottom out on a rebuild. I still have Mahomes as my QB1 and I liked Burrow a lot in the draft last year. For my own personal rankings felt like a potentially lateral move at QB in order to turn my older WRs into young potential and pick up a future 1st too.
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No idea how you got a 1st thrown into that deal. Amazing job.  

It was definitely a bit of taking advantage of a team who sees a shot at winning now. He went from a starting lineup of:

QB: Burrow, Jones
RB: Cook, Henry, Chubb, Najee Harris
WR: Cooper, Devonta Smith
TE: Tonyan

to

QB: Herbert, Jones
RB: Cook, Henry, Chubb, Najee Harris
WR: Cooper, Woods
TE: Tonyan

w/ Lockett on the bench

Would I make that move if I were him? Nope. But I guess I can see the logic. There was zero negotiation either, just sent that over and he accepted about 20 mins later (even had to pay a deposit for 2023 to close the deal).

 

[BigTex]

10 Team Dyno, TE premo 

I gave Fant

I got Freiermuth

in another trade same league

I gave Mayfield 

I got Herbert

Tex

 

[Ridgeback]

10 Team Dyno, TE premo 

I gave Fant

I got Freiermuth

in another trade same league

I gave Mayfield 

I got Herbert

Tex

Something seriously one sided in each of those. Herbert>>>>>Mayfield. 

 

[ghostguy123]

10 Team Dyno, TE premo 

I gave Fant

I got Freiermuth

in another trade same league

I gave Mayfield 

I got Herbert

Tex

Does not compute

 

[wgoldsph]

Team A gives: D Cook, L Shenault, B Cooks

Team B gives: M Sanders, M Evans, A Robinson

At first glance I thought it was a killing for team B.  Now I'm starting to think team A might have gotten the better side (as long as I put my own value in Sanders aside).  Guess it's a good trade for both.

 

[BigTex]

Something seriously one sided in each of those. Herbert>>>>>Mayfield. 

Sorry, I gave him the 2.1 pick also. Their numbers from last year are very close but I believe adding the 2.1 balanced it more.

Tex

 

[BigTex]

Something seriously one sided in each of those. Herbert>>>>>Mayfield. 

I’m loaded at TE, I will never start Fant. I like Freiemuth a lot. I know it might sound odd but I’m ok giving up Fant for him. 
 

Tex

 

[Boston]

10 Team Dyno, TE premo 

I gave Fant

I got Freiermuth

in another trade same league

I gave Mayfield 

I got Herbert

Tex

Easily Fant and easily Herbert.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

16 team empire league. Tiered PPR. 0.2 PPC. 

Gave: 2 ‘22 1sts, ‘23 1st, ‘22 2nd, Ty Johnson 

Got: Najee Harris, Diontae Johnson

I’m the heavy favorite with a win now squad so figured I may as well push all my chips in. Picks should all be late 

Nice trade. Better hope for QB greatness for whomever is PIT’s next QB. But it’s a strong move. 

 

[DropKick]

Right. 

Agreed. 

 

[The Future Champs]

I've never really waded into the Keeper waters so hard for me to evaluate, but as you've described it  I think that's a good move to get up and grab a better player as a future keeper. Who you thinking at 1.02?

Pitts, unless my worthy opponent pulls a Constanza and passes on Harris at 1.01.   My keepers are loaded and young, and I’d like to keep pushing that way.  Getting Pitts would allow me to package off Kittle for a prime WR upgrade (hopefully).

I also had an offer out for the 1.03, as I’d thrilled to get J Williams.
 

The 1.09 would likely be a WR prospect who would have a slim chance of making next years keeper list.

 

[cloppbeast]

Found this in my inbox, couldn't say no.

CEH and Darrell Williams for Mixon.

 

[Helaire-ious]

Found this in my inbox, couldn't say no.

CEH and Darrell Williams for Mixon.

I assume you sent Mixon to them? If so, I like it for you

 

[tangfoot]

14-teams

Tyreek and DJ Moore

for

Chubb, McLaurin, Toney

 

[lardonastick]

12 team non-ppr, not involved

Kadarius Toney

for

Evan Engram

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Found this in my inbox, couldn't say no.

CEH and Darrell Williams for Mixon.

I am high on Mixon this year but I'd take CEH here if it was offered to me for him and I am a Mixon owner.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

14-teams

Tyreek and DJ Moore

for

Chubb, McLaurin, Toney

This is an interesting trade.  I don't personally value Toney as much at all and would have probably asked for a pick.  I love Tyreek and am not high on Moore but love Chubb/McLaurin.  I'd probably lean that way but would be tough to give up Tyreek.  If I could have got a 2nd instead of Toney I would be happier.

 

[voiceofunreason]

Just had this trade happen, I wasn't involved.

Gus Edwards, Parker & Oluokon (LBer, minimal value)

for

Tee Higgins & a 4th.

Terrible trade. Sold Higgins for nothing.

 

[tangfoot]

This is an interesting trade.  I don't personally value Toney as much at all and would have probably asked for a pick.  I love Tyreek and am not high on Moore but love Chubb/McLaurin.  I'd probably lean that way but would be tough to give up Tyreek.  If I could have got a 2nd instead of Toney I would be happier.

Interesting take, Toney was added specifically because future picks were rejected.

 

[Buckna]

14-teams

Tyreek and DJ Moore

for

Chubb, McLaurin, Toney

Without knowing rosters I would go with Tyreek and Moore given the differences in ages and longevity at their position.

Personally think Tyreek should pull a better or at least younger RB than Chubb, and although I know many consider McLaurin a significant upgrade over Moore I am not so sure about that outside of this year.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Without knowing rosters I would go with Tyreek and Moore given the differences in ages and longevity at their position.

Personally think Tyreek should pull a better or at least younger RB than Chubb, and although I know many consider McLaurin a significant upgrade over Moore I am not so sure about that outside of this year.

I agree that I think this trade totally comes down to how you value Moore probably.  I like Scary Terry much more.  I'm assuming that this team had a big need at RB if they were willing to trade both Tyreek & Moore.  I don't have a problem either way though really.  I see it is a pretty fair trade.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

14-teams

Tyreek and DJ Moore

for

Chubb, McLaurin, Toney

wow - big boy trade. This one depends on need, but I like the Tyreek side just a stitch more. That said, I’m higher on DJM than some & not as high on TMc as some. 

fair deal. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team non-ppr, not involved

Kadarius Toney

for

Evan Engram

Engram owner finally got a decent offer. Wish i could get a Toney for him. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Just had this trade happen, I wasn't involved.

Gus Edwards, Parker & Oluokon (LBer, minimal value)

for

Tee Higgins & a 4th.

Terrible trade. Sold Higgins for nothing.

OMG stole Higgins. 

 

[jm192]

Just had this trade happen, I wasn't involved.

Gus Edwards, Parker & Oluokon (LBer, minimal value)

for

Tee Higgins & a 4th.

Terrible trade. Sold Higgins for nothing.

Even got a 4th thrown in.  Wow wow wow.

 

[jm192]

12 team non-ppr, not involved

Kadarius Toney

for

Evan Engram

I don't love Toney but I like him A LOT more than Engram at this point.