****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (24 Viewers)

[That one guy]

Interesting. I've floated him out a bit in my fairly similar league and haven't gotten anywhere near 2x 1st rounder bites. As a contender I'm gonna hold this year unless something big comes across the trade desk. I know there's a solid risk I lose nearly all trade value for him but the reward for this season is huge if he's able to come off injury even at 85% of his usual self. 

This is the part of dynasty that I struggle with the most. If im not contending, it's an easy thought process. But with a top 3-4 team, knowing how long to hold aging, very productive vets, is a challenge. 

Same boat…the only teams considering buying him are also contenders, so draft capital being offered is most likely late round positioning.  I’m not moving off Henry for a single late first, I’m riding to the end and enjoying all the stiff arms along the way.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

You could totally see him being a fairly productive goal line/redzone weapon aged 30. Like a higher calibre Blount. 

 

[That one guy]

Personal bias as well, King Henry is one of my favorite players to watch and root for.  Makes it easy to just let him live out to the end on my squad rather than chasing minimal value

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Same boat…the only teams considering buying him are also contenders, so draft capital being offered is most likely late round positioning.  I’m not moving off Henry for a single late first, I’m riding to the end and enjoying all the stiff arms along the way.

That’s the rub with aging players. Only contenders will really want Henry, despite the distinct possibility he’s the RB1 or RB2 in 2022 (if healthy) 

And it’s a double whammy for the team dealing him if also in contention - now you’re giving what might be a top 2 RB to your competition, for what might be a low draft pick. 

Tricky to navigate at this point. Imagine dealing Henry to a team, putting them over the top - they beat you in the playoffs, win it all and you get pick 1.12 as a consolation prize.  

Shark move is to deal him for a 2023 1st & 2023 2nd, IMO. Similar value, more likely chance of reward with the picks. 

 

[barackdhouse]

How many shares of RoJo across your leagues would you say you have? 

I have 3 across 26 dynasty leagues

 

[foxco]

I have 3 across 26 dynasty leagues

Damn, 26. I dunno how you keep up. I'm in 5 dynasty leagues and 3 redrafts and have to cut back I miss so much. 

Unrelated, this went down recently in one of my 1QB PPR dynasty (not involved)

Team A gives Michael Gallup, 2.06

Team B gives Mike Williams

Both teams are competitive, Team B deep at WR so should be able to weather not having Gallup for part of the season. Team B then went out and moved 2.10 and 2.06 for the 2.01 to a rebuilding team. 

 

[ghostguy123]

12 team PPR TE 1.5 IDP league

Derrick Henry

for

1.11

2023 1st (finished 2nd place last year)

Not a bad exit price on Henry if you are either rebuilding or have a stacked RB group

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Damn, 26. I dunno how you keep up. I'm in 5 dynasty leagues and 3 redrafts and have to cut back I miss so much.

I would lose my mind. I was in 5 leagues at one point and the weekly conflicts were maddening.

I’m in 2 and it’s much more relaxing. But I’m a “live and die with every play” kinda FF guy. I watch the games, get super excited when my players make a big play. 

A friend who plays in 20+ leagues said they don’t check any scores until the weekend is over. It’s a much more clinical approach. I’m guessing that’s how @barackdhouse approaches it with 26. 

 

[menobrown]

Team A Gave: Devonta Smith, 2023 2nd

Team B Gave: 1.06 and Allen Robinson 

Team A finished middle of the pack last year. Team B is straight rebuilding and has either the worst or second worst roster in the league. 

Devonta>1.6

Robinson>2023#2

Equitable trade to me to me but it I like it a little more for the straight rebuild guy getting Devonta and the pick.

 

[barackdhouse]

I would lose my mind. I was in 5 leagues at one point and the weekly conflicts were maddening.

I’m in 2 and it’s much more relaxing. But I’m a “live and die with every play” kinda FF guy. I watch the games, get super excited when my players make a big play. 

A friend who plays in 20+ leagues said they don’t check any scores until the weekend is over. It’s a much more clinical approach. I’m guessing that’s how @barackdhouse approaches it with 26. 

Yeah as far as the conflicts, I don't even bother thinking about them (FF playoffs maybe different story but that is what I live for in this hobby). Every big play helps me somewhere and also hurts me. It is next level zen fan experience for me because once Sunday kickoff hits, I will have something like 2-5 special late afternoon or SNF/MNF decisions left to go and that I will have handy but otherwise I just enjoy the football for what it is. As for the management burden, yes it is a lot. And I am going to sell more of the orphan projects I took on last year. Have already sold 4 of them. I intended to have a comanager last year but he had a baby and spreadsheets scare him. I would still like to hire somebody for this year. I will try to sell about 5 more. The others are all so strong I can't see moving them.

 

[menobrown]

I would lose my mind.

 Sir if you went from 2 leagues to 26 you might spontaneously combust.

 

[JackReacher]

I would lose my mind. I was in 5 leagues at one point and the weekly conflicts were maddening.

I’m in 2 and it’s much more relaxing. But I’m a “live and die with every play” kinda FF guy. I watch the games, get super excited when my players make a big play. 

A friend who plays in 20+ leagues said they don’t check any scores until the weekend is over. It’s a much more clinical approach. I’m guessing that’s how @barackdhouse approaches it with 26. 

I am in 5-7 leagues every year. One thing I do to keep myself from going crazy (and rooting against my own guys) is that I do not look at my opponents rosters until Monday AM. I just root for my guys on Sundays and am hopeful I am not playing against them as well.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I am in 5-7 leagues every year. One thing I do to keep myself from going crazy (and rooting against my own guys) is that I do not look at my opponents rosters until Monday AM. I just root for my guys on Sundays and am hopeful I am not playing against them as well.

Smart. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

 Sir if you went from 2 leagues to 26 you might spontaneously combust.

 

 

[SleepyIDP]

12TM Superflex Dyno NO PPR

P Mahomes, C Henne, M Evans

For 

1.3, 1.6, 2.3, 3.6, '23 1st

 

[northern exposure]

So why wouldn't Seattle keep him as a fan attraction, then franchise & deal him next year? 

Because I think his value is highest when they have him on the last year of his rookie deal. If they deal him now his salary is below 5 mill this season. Then if the new team deems him worth it, they can sign him to a new long term deal,

If Seattle waits until next season, they have to tag and trade him. I don’t think they get as much for him if they wait.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Because I think his value is highest when they have him on the last year of his rookie deal. If they deal him now his salary is below 5 mill this season. Then if the new team deems him worth it, they can sign him to a new long term deal,

If Seattle waits until next season, they have to tag and trade him. I don’t think they get as much for him if they wait.

Good answer.

 

[BigAl21]

12TM Superflex Dyno NO PPR

P Mahomes, C Henne, M Evans

For 

1.3, 1.6, 2.3, 3.6, '23 1st

Don’t play super flex but this seems like a steal for Mahomes and Evans

 

[Dez]

16 team PPR TE premium

1.04 + 2023 2nd

for

Ekeler LAC RB

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12TM Superflex Dyno NO PPR

P Mahomes, C Henne, M Evans

For 

1.3, 1.6, 2.3, 3.6, '23 1st

This is pretty light for Mahomes alone in SF. That Evans is part of the same package makes it even lighter even in non-PPR. 
 

Mahomes Alone, starring Macaulay Culkin. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

16 team PPR TE premium

1.04 + 2023 2nd

for

Ekeler LAC RB

Seems fair. Eke isn’t getting younger, but I’d probably pay that for him. 

 

[-OZ-]

PPR 

Travis Kelce and kJ Osborn

 for

Kadarius Toney 

we had one owner upset over this trade. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

PPR 

Travis Kelce and kJ Osborn

 for

Kadarius Toney 

we had one owner upset over this trade. 

Seems like a lot for Toney. 

 

[drewd_21]

PPR 

Travis Kelce and kJ Osborn

 for

Kadarius Toney 

we had one owner upset over this trade. 

Also apparently the worst trade ever seen by some in dynasty...

 

[Boston]

PPR 

Travis Kelce and kJ Osborn

 for

Kadarius Toney 

we had one owner upset over this trade. 

I am very high on Toney and understand moving on from Kelce but you gotta get a second solid piece on the Toney side...the fact it is April and there are no 2022 picks involved is a head-scratcher as well, you should be in zero rush to make this deal...the biggest mystery of all is why the Kelce owner had to throw anything else in at all regardless of what it is.

 

[-OZ-]

I am very high on Toney and understand moving on from Kelce but you gotta get a second solid piece on the Toney side...the fact it is April and there are no 2022 picks involved is a head-scratcher as well, you should be in zero rush to make this deal...the biggest mystery of all is why the Kelce owner had to throw anything else in at all regardless of what it is.

I hear you. For whatever reason, aging vets are really hard to trade in this league. I’ve been shopping Adams for a while, even before the trade but have just one interested owner and the pieces haven’t been lining up imo to make the move. So I wait, but if there were a young WR I like coming back in the deal I can see making it now (the offer basically just includes 23 and 24 picks). 

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

I hear you. For whatever reason, aging vets are really hard to trade in this league. I’ve been shopping Adams for a while, even before the trade but have just one interested owner and the pieces haven’t been lining up imo to make the move. So I wait, but if there were a young WR I like coming back in the deal I can see making it now (the offer basically just includes 23 and 24 picks). 

Trades can be super league dependant. In one of mine, picks are coveted by the majority of owners. 1st and 2nd year players with promise are easier to get than picks. In that league the going rate for aging vets is a good bit less than you'll see in this thread.   I think in those situations you have to change your strategies up a bit to counter the group think. If you're a contender, buy aging vets at a discount and trade picks for young promising guys. Guys like Kelce and Adams are guys you just ride into the sunset (again, if you're contending). 

Personally I'd have kept a game changer like Kelce on my roster until he retires if that were the going rate, but ymmv. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Also apparently the worst trade ever seen by some in dynasty...

I dunno about worst trade ever, but it’s definitely a terrible trade.

Kelce should command far more to a contending team, especially in the wake of their WR corps shuffle. He might well have a career year, in an already spectacular career. Sure, he’s a short term asset at this point, but he’s the rare combo of positional rarity, talent & opportunity that he is still an incredibly valuable asset. 

And KJO is one of the better 3rd WRs with an aging Thielen ahead of him.

There is just no way Toney should command that package. And I like Toney. But Toney has a truly mediocre QB with a bad OL on a team in salary cap hell. 

So no - there have been worse trades in the history of FF. But not a lot worse. lol

 

[JoeJoe88]

PPR 

Travis Kelce and kJ Osborn

 for

Kadarius Toney 

we had one owner upset over this trade. 

Kelce should command a better player back than Toney. I’m just holding him there if that’s the best I can get, especially if I have any plans for competing in the next two years. 

 

[-OZ-]

Trades can be super league dependant. In one of mine, picks are coveted by the majority of owners. 1st and 2nd year players with promise are easier to get than picks. In that league the going rate for aging vets is a good bit less than you'll see in this thread.   I think in those situations you have to change your strategies up a bit to counter the group think. If you're a contender, buy aging vets at a discount and trade picks for young promising guys. Guys like Kelce and Adams are guys you just ride into the sunset (again, if you're contending). 

Personally I'd have kept a game changer like Kelce on my roster until he retires if that were the going rate, but ymmv. 

The key is if you’re contending. Otherwise, having these guys keeps you in the middle (unless you decide to go ahead and try to compete, which isn’t easy either.). 
this is a large IDP league, 21 starters. 32 teams (players available twice). Some of the contenders are stacked to the point where many decide to rebuild with rosters which could compete in other leagues. With fewer teams interested in aging players, their value is lower. 
i find myself in that rough spot where I don’t plan to undersell the assets, but I might as I’m not likely to compete in the next few years. 

 

[Ridgeback]

12 Team PPR

Team A gives J Jefferson K Hunt and '22 1.8

Team B gives OBJ, T Sermon, '22 1.3, 1.7, '23 likely mid first round.

 

[JohnnyU]

12 Team PPR

Team A gives J Jefferson K Hunt and '22 1.8

Team B gives OBJ, T Sermon, '22 1.3, 1.7, '23 likely mid first round.

Jefferson / 1.8 side easily.

 

[Ridgeback]

Jefferson / 1.8 side easily.

I see the trade as two early 1sts for Jefferson, essentially. 

 

[Ridgeback]

10 Team PPR, IDP

Team A gives C Ridley

Team B gives D Campbell, '23 likely late 2nd.

 

[JohnnyU]

10 Team PPR, IDP

Team A gives C Ridley

Team B gives D Campbell, '23 likely late 2nd.

I'd rather just hold Ridley if that's all I could get.

 

[Ridgeback]

I'd rather just hold Ridley if that's all I could get.

Understood. I'm already loaded at WR, and don't have roster spot to keep him on. Campbell was top 10 last year and just signed long term extension.

 

[menobrown]

12 Team PPR

Team A gives J Jefferson K Hunt and '22 1.8

Team B gives OBJ, T Sermon, '22 1.3, 1.7, '23 likely mid first round.

For me:

Jefferson>1.3 and 23 mid

Hunt, 1.8>1.7, OBJ, Sermon

 

[Ridgeback]

For me:

Jefferson>1.3 and 23 mid

Hunt, 1.8>1.7, OBJ, Sermon

Agreed. I was happy to pay the price for a blue chip. Plenty of first round busts too.

 

[titusbramble]

10 team SF PPR

Team A sends Bridgewater, Boyd

Team B sends Conklin, 2023 3rd

 

[JohnnyU]

10 team SF PPR

Team A sends Bridgewater, Boyd

Team B sends Conklin, 2023 3rd

meh....I guess Boyd is worth a 3rd.

 

[Birdie048]

12 Team 1 QB PPR     not involved 

Team A (2019 Champ / Playoff 2020) - Gave up LVR WR Devante Adams

Team B (rebuild) - gave up 2022 1.04 & 1.11 picks  

 

[InDitkaWeTrust]

12 Team 1 QB PPR     not involved 

Team A (2019 Champ / Playoff 2020) - Gave up LVR WR Devante Adams

Team B (rebuild) - gave up 2022 1.04 & 1.11 picks  

That seems counterintuitive. 

 

[-OZ-]

12 Team 1 QB PPR     not involved 

Team A (2019 Champ / Playoff 2020) - Gave up LVR WR Devante Adams

Team B (rebuild) - gave up 2022 1.04 & 1.11 picks  

Did team A start rebuilding? What happened in 2021? 
seems like a fair price (although I’m not sure why B does it while rebuilding) Best I’m getting offered for adams right now is late ‘23 and ‘24 firsts

 

[titusbramble]

Perhaps B figures that Adams will still be productive when they leave their rebuild window and contribute more than what the two firsts will do in the same. Agreed it feels a bit counter-intuitive, but maybe B just thinks they're getting a lot of value in this spot. Can't say that I agree as it seems a fair enough trade, would probably just prefer the picks

 

[Birdie048]

Did team A start rebuilding? What happened in 2021? 
seems like a fair price (although I’m not sure why B does it while rebuilding) Best I’m getting offered for adams right now is late ‘23 and ‘24 firsts

Not really, Team A still has a solid foundation at RB & TE but was looking to divest out of "older WR".  He has Thielen, OBJ also.  Sorry had dates wrong..  2020 Champ, 2021 Playoff (lost 2nd round).

Josh Allen / Gibson, Mixon, AJones/Hock, Howard, Tonyan. but needs top tier WR help now.

 

[Birdie048]

Perhaps B figures that Adams will still be productive when they leave their rebuild window and contribute more than what the two firsts will do in the same. Agreed it feels a bit counter-intuitive, but maybe B just thinks they're getting a lot of value in this spot. Can't say that I agree as it seems a fair enough trade, would probably just prefer the picks

Team B was shopping the picks... does not like any WR in this class.  Thinks other than Top 2 picks, nothing of value. 

 

[Dez]

10 team NON PPR

Lamar Jackson

for

Aaron Rodgers, Sutton and 2.02

 

[rockaction]

Agreed. I was happy to pay the price for a blue chip. Plenty of first round busts too.

If you had the Jefferson side, I think you made out well, actually. Jefferson can go for three firsts if you're not careful about it. 

 

[-OZ-]

10 team NON PPR

Lamar Jackson

for

Aaron Rodgers, Sutton and 2.02

10 team I’ll take Lamar but might be in the minority. 

 

[Blick]

12 team PPR. 
 

Gibson/23 1st (likely late) for Javonte