1 is an easy win.
3 is also an easy win and I would put Ridley at least on par with Evans if looking at 23 and beyond.
2 is harder to say, seems like a win but depends who was on the board at 11 and next 4 players after.
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1 is an easy win.
3 is also an easy win and I would put Ridley at least on par with Evans if looking at 23 and beyond.
2 is harder to say, seems like a win but depends who was on the board at 11 and next 4 players after.
Boston
Footballguy
1-all depends on what you are looking to do...if you are close and need a big time QB it's nice deal because Brady could be a difference-maker and put you over the top...if you are rebuilding it's a solid move since it is a 1 QB league and you may not be able to do much better, so I understand cashing out now
2-all depends on how many players you really like in this year's draft...if you have 11 you really like then I like that side...if you are so-so in that 1.11 to 2.3 area than it's a real smart move grabbing another asset although you do risk an unexpected player dropping to 1.11 by doing this deal now
3-again, if I'm close, I like the Evans side since you get a big-time player, don't touch your current roster and have 2 years to get that pick back...I would have much preferred another younger player other than Ridley since he will be 28 in December (and will not have played in pretty much two years) and since you are rebuilding, he doesn't really make too much sense
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
i don’t like acquiring Ridley for a rebuilding team. In part due to his age, and also in part due to his mental health issues combined with his gambling issues (they may be the same issue) - either way, there’s a dark cloud hanging over his future, and I’m not yet convinced he’s ever going to contribute meaningfully to FF rosters. I feel like much better return could have been had for Mike Evans.
I think the comments and thought that Ridley may not play again is one of the biggest overreactions in fantasy community I've seen in years and that's saying something because I've seen a lot.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Sent Joe Burrow for Lamar Jackson
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I’m not saying he won’t play again. I’m saying he may never be as relevant again. I think it’s a fair reaction. Especially since we still don’t know the full extent of his gambling, and how he impacted games in which he played.
Regardless, it’s still light for Evans.
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I don't see any basis for either thinking he's done or will not be relevant and would again call it the biggest overreaction I've seen in years.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
You’re certainly entitled to that.
I think his missing substantial time for a mental health crisis is worth considering. It’s something that could limit him again in the future.
The gambling is another red flag that could impact his future.
Those things, combined with his age & the Falcons being in a full rebuild, give me pause when considering his future value.
to each their own.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Tricky. I like Dobbins a lot. I’m not sure if the Ravens will be committed enough to one dude to make Dobbins a star. And they have a running QB who’s going to vulture TDs.
I’m more down on Sanders thank most. I’m not sure what the future at RB looks like for the Eagles, how much of a RBBC it’s going to be, and they also have a running QB.
I love the ‘23 1st. I guess I’d take Sanders and the 1st, then try to flip Sanders. It seems very fair.
efactor
Footballguy
Close, but I like your end of the deal. Throwing to Chase and Higgins for the foreseeable future is a big positive
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not dynasty, but for 2023 he should be. Apologies that was unclear.
a win-now team will pay a lot more than that for Brady, IMO.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Smokin Okie
Footballguy
12 team - 12 Keeper - PPR - 1QB 2RB 3WR 2TE Flex
Team A gets:
Team A gets:
- Four 2023 1st round picks
- Two 2023 2nd round picks
- 2024 1st round pick
- RB Miles Sanders
- Justin Jefferson
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Wow. I think Jefferson is dynasty number one overall. But boy, that is more than enough to move him for. Give me the picks in a landslide.
joey
Footballguy
at least they're getting a stud dynasty WR back but SHEESH I wouldn't pay that for Jonathan Taylor in non-ppr dynasty.
I mean, I imagine you go through all of this trouble to aquire all of those pick to do a full rebuild, and then you sell them ALL for a single player? makes zero sense to me.
in one of my FFPC leagues, I shipped off Zeke in one trade and Tyreek in another to acquire 2 more 2023 1st round picks, and now some owners are sending me meh offers for those picks and my reply has been some version of "why would I put in the effort to acquire the picks to rebuild and then sell them off for good but not great dynasty assets". Stay the course!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
this is madness.
I’d easily sell Jefferson for just the 4 2023 picks. Even that’s a modest overpay.
madness.
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sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I can see Team B's side of this if this if they're a death row inmate. Otherwise, someone might want to check in on them.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
terminal disease also makes sense. Otherwise, they must be just a really massively, unreasonably, insanely huge JJ fan.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
DropKick
Footballguy
You don't see any basis? How many players have we seen leave the game for mental health reasons or suspended for gambling? I don't think you can succeed in the NFL if you're not fully committed, mentally and physically. You can be bullish or bearish on his future but there are certainly reasons to be concerned.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Seems fair and really depends on your league scoring of rushing tds vs passing tds.
I'd be concerned about Lamar's durability averaging almost 1000 yards rishing a season. Maybe I'm showing my age, but it sure seems like hits taken in the pocket are generally less violent/traumatic than ones in the open field.
cloppbeast
Footballguy
I've never seen one of these kinds of trades in real life. Someone works to collect 4 1sts and then quickly sends them all away for one player. I couldn't do it.
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Four???? He also added a 2014 1st. Also sanders and a 2nd is worth a 1st.
Four 2023 1sts for any player would be a bit of an overpay, then he added all the rest.
Edit...just realized it was TWO 2023 2nds.
You can argue this can be viewed as 7 first in value.
The five 1sts are obviously 1sts.
Two 2023 2nds could be viewed as a 1st round value.
Sanders could be argued to be a 1stbround value
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Boston
Footballguy
Agreed...I would like to have a play-by-play of the negotiation to see how it finally got to this or if it was just a one-time, I am pushing in all my chips offer.
jm192
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I agree with above tha without Miles Sanders in the deal I don’t make it. He’s easily the best piece on that side.
jm192
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
i feel like 3x 2023 1sts is an overpay. 4 is absurd.
yeah. And sanders. And a ‘24 1st.
madness.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Perfect example why some should think it overnight before acting, unless as someone said earlier, he’s on death row.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
For 3x 2023 1sts you can have any player on my roster. 4x 1sts and I’ll throw in my favorite chef’s knife. Add in the rest & throw a game for you in-season.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Without exaggeration, imma say that’s the biggest overpay I’ve ever seen on this forum, and I’d be shocked if we ever see one worse. Incredible.
I can easily imagine seeing this offer in reverse in the “worst offer ever” topic. “Hey, I’ll give you JJ for [insane haul]”.
It would fit right in. Incredible.
I can easily imagine seeing this offer in reverse in the “worst offer ever” topic. “Hey, I’ll give you JJ for [insane haul]”.
It would fit right in. Incredible.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The worst part is how hard he must have worked to obtain all those picks, only to crap it all away in one trade.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
100%
It took me a year to accumulate 6. Every one was an extended negotiation with multiple offers back & forth, like pulling teeth.
The JJ owner must have melted his keyboard accepting this so fast.
joey
Footballguy
No. This kind of genius is a long play.
“Only 3 2023 1st for the best dynasty WR? Gotta turn it up a notch!”
”better hurry if you want JJ. Someone offered me 4 1sts and their brand new Ford Fiesta”
”ok. You drive a hard bargain, but I guess I will reluctantly accept your current offer, though the real cost to me is that the league will likely fold this coming year due to this trade”
I would be SO IRATE if this trade went down in my league.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah for sure. It makes me wonder if someone took it over as an orphan after all that work had already been done. Maybe somebody already did the legwork. It sort of screams newbie.
efactor
Footballguy
Got Jefferson and pick 10 in 2022 for Chase in a 16 team
It's a contract league, so some other variables. I had Chase for 4 years and Jefferson is only 2, but I can franchise tag him, so that wasn't a big deal to me. Also Jefferson is only 2K based on draft position and Chase is 18K.
I obviously like the trade but was surprised by the league reaction. About half thought it was pretty even, but most of the others thought the guy getting Chase came out on top.
As an aside, moved the 1.10 and my 2023 first to the team that IMO, is a virtual lock to be picking in the top 2 in 2023. Fortunately, he is an eternal optimist and thinks he will be mid at worst.
It's a contract league, so some other variables. I had Chase for 4 years and Jefferson is only 2, but I can franchise tag him, so that wasn't a big deal to me. Also Jefferson is only 2K based on draft position and Chase is 18K.
I obviously like the trade but was surprised by the league reaction. About half thought it was pretty even, but most of the others thought the guy getting Chase came out on top.
As an aside, moved the 1.10 and my 2023 first to the team that IMO, is a virtual lock to be picking in the top 2 in 2023. Fortunately, he is an eternal optimist and thinks he will be mid at worst.
joey
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I like the Chase side. Mostly because I like the odds of Burrow having longevity over Cousins. Getting the pick is a nice balancing piece. It’s fair. I’d want Chase.
Dez
Footballguy
People say this all the time but it depends on the 1sts.
Here I give you picks 10, 11, 12 this year for Chase you taking that ? That's 3 1st.
Or even if I gave you picks 7, 9 and 11 are you taking that for Jefferson or Chase or Taylor ?
I think not.
Also what if they are 3 projected late 2023 1st. You can't always project them but in most leagues sometimes you can tell if a team will be playoff or not.
I have traded 3 1st round picks + a few times in my league once it worked out (Got Tomlinson in his prime) the other did not work out (Got Priest Holmes then he promptly broke his hip)
Also This year I basically gave up 3 1st to get Chase everyone on here said I won the trade.
I gave but Breece Hall, Skyy Moore and 2.01 for Chase.
I took Hall 1.01, Moore went 1.09 plus the 2.01.
Hall is worth at least 2 1st round picks considering he is 1.01 and goes in the 10-15 in startups.
So I gave up more than 3 1st in value for Chase a few weeks ago not 1 person on here said they would take the Hall side that I can recall.
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