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Give me the 1.03 and Jacobs10 team ppr
1.02 +2.09 for 1.03 and josh jacobs
Give me the 1.03 and Jacobs10 team ppr
1.02 +2.09 for 1.03 and josh jacobs
Jacobs and the 3, rather easily imo.10 team ppr
1.02 +2.09 for 1.03 and josh jacobs
You’re bigger on Addison that I am most likely. Objectively that’s probably ok.FFPC, 1 QB
I’ve been trying to trade up into top 4 this off season but moved out in this league bc offer seemed good enough to
Gave; 1.03, Jakobi, 2025 2nd
Got; Addison, 1.09, 2025 1st
This is better then the 1.1 I got for ETN.FFPC, 1 QB
Gave; ETN, Zamir White
Got; 1.04, 2025 1st (early to mid)
Just like one of my earlier ones, this trade greatly diminished my RB room but I’ll always take the value now and figure out RB over next few months.
Having a RB room of CMC, Barkley, ETN, and JJacobs where I can start 3, this makes me want to start shopping ETNFFPC, 1 QB
Gave; ETN, Zamir White
Got; 1.04, 2025 1st (early to mid)
Just like one of my earlier ones, this trade greatly diminished my RB room but I’ll always take the value now and figure out RB over next few months.
How is that similar?FFPC, 1QB
Prior deal of getting 1.01 and Stroud for 1.07, 1.11,2.09 was instantly reversed by FFPC Commish. Month later made a similar deal I hope stands this time around.
Gave; Hurts, Barkley, Aaron Jones, 2.09
Got; Stroud, 1.01
Disagree.This is better then the 1.1 I got for ETN.FFPC, 1 QB
Gave; ETN, Zamir White
Got; 1.04, 2025 1st (early to mid)
Just like one of my earlier ones, this trade greatly diminished my RB room but I’ll always take the value now and figure out RB over next few months.
How is that similar?FFPC, 1QB
Prior deal of getting 1.01 and Stroud for 1.07, 1.11,2.09 was instantly reversed by FFPC Commish. Month later made a similar deal I hope stands this time around.
Gave; Hurts, Barkley, Aaron Jones, 2.09
Got; Stroud, 1.01
The original trade is insanely lopsided and this one is a bit better.
Still not great, as one could make a case that stroud & hurts are close in value, so you essentially got the 1.01 for two old running backs. That’s wild.
Either your trade partner really wants to help your team with the 1.01, or they aren’t too bright.
Reasonable minds can do that.Disagree.This is better then the 1.1 I got for ETN.FFPC, 1 QB
Gave; ETN, Zamir White
Got; 1.04, 2025 1st (early to mid)
Just like one of my earlier ones, this trade greatly diminished my RB room but I’ll always take the value now and figure out RB over next few months.
I give you the injury part for sure but I don't think the statement about not producing is correct. He finished the season with three straight 100 yd rushing games and has always produced when healthy.I'm pretty low on Aaron Jones, like... I don't want anything to do with him low. In the right situation, he is probably worth a late 2nd or early 3rd. If you are in win now mode and willing to take a gamble on a guy that couldn't stay on the field and/or produce with Jordan Love at QB... not sure how you look at Sam Darnold and the Vikings O-Line and think... this will be better.
If other teams did not go after that 1.1 after the overturned traded that's on them. If they made competitive offers for it after but that team seemed determined to send it to one team is the kind of thing that gets my suspicions rising. (not in any way suggesting you are doing anything wrong BigAl, just saying if I was in that league the course of actions and thought process I'd have had)How is that similar?FFPC, 1QB
Prior deal of getting 1.01 and Stroud for 1.07, 1.11,2.09 was instantly reversed by FFPC Commish. Month later made a similar deal I hope stands this time around.
Gave; Hurts, Barkley, Aaron Jones, 2.09
Got; Stroud, 1.01
The original trade is insanely lopsided and this one is a bit better.
Still not great, as one could make a case that stroud & hurts are close in value, so you essentially got the 1.01 for two old running backs. That’s wild.
Either your trade partner really wants to help your team with the 1.01, or they aren’t too bright.
I agree with what you are saying but I think the injuries are a pretty strong indicator of what to expect. Roster matters. If you are a win now dynasty team, you could pull the trigger on Aaron Jones for a late 2nd/early 3rd. I think Aaron Jones with Jordan Love is different than Aaron Jones with Sam Darnold and the Vikings o-line. Maybe I am assuming too much, but if you have the 1.01 - I assume you are the worst team in the league, which makes ZERO sense to trade away the 1.01 and Stroud for this package.I give you the injury part for sure but I don't think the statement about not producing is correct. He finished the season with three straight 100 yd rushing games and has always produced when healthy.I'm pretty low on Aaron Jones, like... I don't want anything to do with him low. In the right situation, he is probably worth a late 2nd or early 3rd. If you are in win now mode and willing to take a gamble on a guy that couldn't stay on the field and/or produce with Jordan Love at QB... not sure how you look at Sam Darnold and the Vikings O-Line and think... this will be better.
I think he is a great fit in Minny for next year and will be a focal point in both rushing and out of the backfield. I expect a solid season if he can remain healthy. If you don't wnt to gamble on the health I can buy that. But if are sayind he isn't productive when healthy I can't buy that.
Seems super obvious to me to grab Jacobs and pick 310 team ppr
1.02 +2.09 for 1.03 and josh jacobs
I completely agree that Jones in that deal for the 1.01 was terrible. I was mainly speaking to your comment that Jones is not someone you want at all and the reasoning (not being productive with Love/GB) as part of the reason. He was productive and should be the focal point in Minny. I see him having a solid year (if healthy) and someone I would be looking to acquire if I was in contention.Maybe I am assuming too much, but if you have the 1.01 - I assume you are the worst team in the league, which makes ZERO sense to trade away the 1.01 and Stroud for this package.
Seems super obvious to me to grab Jacobs and pick 310 team ppr
1.02 +2.09 for 1.03 and josh jacobs
That’s fair.Reasonable minds can do that.Disagree.This is better then the 1.1 I got for ETN.FFPC, 1 QB
Gave; ETN, Zamir White
Got; 1.04, 2025 1st (early to mid)
Just like one of my earlier ones, this trade greatly diminished my RB room but I’ll always take the value now and figure out RB over next few months.
I'm just very fond of the top 4 in a TEP format and feel like 1.4 is closer to value of 1.1 then Zamir White is to a potential early first next year.
I like that deal a lot for you,Traded Kittle for Kyler Murray. 16 team start 1QB, IDP league. Can start up to 3 TE. I still have Kincaid and Ferguson at TE.
My only QB was Geno Smith and only decent FA is Russell Wilson. Have pick 1.10 so not likely to get one of the top rookie QBs.
Traded Kittle for Kyler Murray. 16 team start 1QB, IDP league. Can start up to 3 TE. I still have Kincaid and Ferguson at TE.
My only QB was Geno Smith and only decent FA is Russell Wilson. Have pick 1.10 so not likely to get one of the top rookie QBs.
I don’t know if I’d do it but it’s fair. Given your roster it’s good for you.Traded Kittle for Kyler Murray. 16 team start 1QB, IDP league. Can start up to 3 TE. I still have Kincaid and Ferguson at TE.
My only QB was Geno Smith and only decent FA is Russell Wilson. Have pick 1.10 so not likely to get one of the top rookie QBs.
Hollywood by a large margin.1QB FFPC
Gave: Shakir, 4.06
Got: Hollywood Brown
Traded Kittle for Kyler Murray. 16 team start 1QB, IDP league. Can start up to 3 TE. I still have Kincaid and Ferguson at TE.
My only QB was Geno Smith and only decent FA is Russell Wilson. Have pick 1.10 so not likely to get one of the top rookie QBs.
I like the deal but do QB’s go that early in a 16 teamer but start 1? I would expect Caleb only to be gone in a 12 team league at that point.
Great example of how not all one start QB leagues are equal. Got 12 team leagues that have not had a QB go in round one in over 10 years, most none in top 10. Guess the 16 teams makes that much of a difference?Traded Kittle for Kyler Murray. 16 team start 1QB, IDP league. Can start up to 3 TE. I still have Kincaid and Ferguson at TE.
My only QB was Geno Smith and only decent FA is Russell Wilson. Have pick 1.10 so not likely to get one of the top rookie QBs.
I like the deal but do QB’s go that early in a 16 teamer but start 1? I would expect Caleb only to be gone in a 12 team league at that point.
For comparison, last year in that league Richardson went 1.03, Young 1.09, and Stroud 1.10. So it is possible.
In mine, they went 4, 7, 10. Levis went 27th.Guess the 16 teams makes that much of a difference?
Great example of how not all one start QB leagues are equal. Got 12 team leagues that have not had a QB go in round one in over 10 years, most none in top 10. Guess the 16 teams makes that much of a difference?
For comparison, last year in that league Richardson went 1.03, Young 1.09, and Stroud 1.10. So it is possible.
Without knowing how teams are set at QB at the moment, I would be surprised if these guys lasted this long. It seems when leagues jump to the SF the QB is heavily overvalued and people just overdraft drastically. I would be leery of that and bump up your expectations.My "guess" is Caleb = 1.05, Daniels 1.08 and Maye 1.10 pending how the NFL draft falls for JJ's destiny
I'm guessing larger roster sizes? I''ve long thought amount of teams and roster size really differentiate QB value in one start leagues.Great example of how not all one start QB leagues are equal. Got 12 team leagues that have not had a QB go in round one in over 10 years, most none in top 10. Guess the 16 teams makes that much of a difference?
For comparison, last year in that league Richardson went 1.03, Young 1.09, and Stroud 1.10. So it is possible.
12 Team 1 QB league ... and we just voted to add SF for 2026 so no telling what to expect in QB portion.
My "guess" is Caleb = 1.05, Daniels 1.08 and Maye 1.10 pending how the NFL draft falls for JJ's destiny
2023 QBs drafted:
1.05 = AR
1.06 = B Young
2.05 = CJ Stroud
2.11 = Will Levis
4.07 = Aidan O'Connell
4.09 = H Hooker
I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
Agree - I have Kincaid in a 1QB TEP 16 teamer and unless I had another viable TE where I thought the 6 would improve me at another position more than my drop off from Kincaid to my other TE, I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on it.I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
Agree with both of you. The owner trading Kincaid has Pitts.Agree - I have Kincaid in a 1QB TEP 16 teamer and unless I had another viable TE where I thought the 6 would improve me at another position more than my drop off from Kincaid to my other TE, I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on it.I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
As you say…. size matters!!I'm guessing larger roster sizes? I''ve long thought amount of teams and roster size really differentiate QB value in one start leagues.Great example of how not all one start QB leagues are equal. Got 12 team leagues that have not had a QB go in round one in over 10 years, most none in top 10. Guess the 16 teams makes that much of a difference?
For comparison, last year in that league Richardson went 1.03, Young 1.09, and Stroud 1.10. So it is possible.
12 Team 1 QB league ... and we just voted to add SF for 2026 so no telling what to expect in QB portion.
My "guess" is Caleb = 1.05, Daniels 1.08 and Maye 1.10 pending how the NFL draft falls for JJ's destiny
2023 QBs drafted:
1.05 = AR
1.06 = B Young
2.05 = CJ Stroud
2.11 = Will Levis
4.07 = Aidan O'Connell
4.09 = H Hooker
Most of my leagues are FFPC, with the 16 off-season cut down limit, 20 in-season. That can make it rough carrying more then multiple QB's, willingly investing in them and along with that the rookie drafts tend to have at least some solid vet options. These factors all contribute to driving down the price in my leagues.
Since Luck/RG3 most of these leagues have had zero QB's go in round one, a few had Trevor or Richardson and I think the highest was Richardson at 9 last year.
The league where I have Kincaid, I have Kelce. But long term I think Kincaid helps more.Agree with both of you. The owner trading Kincaid has Pitts.Agree - I have Kincaid in a 1QB TEP 16 teamer and unless I had another viable TE where I thought the 6 would improve me at another position more than my drop off from Kincaid to my other TE, I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on it.I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
For sure - Kelce is the one to try trade, though the current team dynamics matter. If you're win now then running double TE may be the move, but if you aren't a title contender, or could use the boost elsewhere, moving Kelce is the move to explore.The league where I have Kincaid , I have Kelce . But long term I think Kincaid helps more.
I can 2nd that idea. My 12 Team TE+ 1QB winner had TJHoch & LaPorta. So, yeah, it does wonders for your other deficiencies ... his RB1 was R WhiteFor sure - Kelce is the one to try trade, though the current team dynamics matter. If you're win now then running double TE may be the move, but if you aren't a title contender, or could use the boost elsewhere, moving Kelce is the move to explore.The league where I have Kincaid , I have Kelce . But long term I think Kincaid helps more.
lost in the championship in 23, won in 22. Hoping for one last run with Henry, Kelce, Barkley, etc.I can 2nd that idea. My 12 Team TE+ 1QB winner had TJHoch & LaPorta. So, yeah, it does wonders for your other deficiencies ... his RB1 was R WhiteFor sure - Kelce is the one to try trade, though the current team dynamics matter. If you're win now then running double TE may be the move, but if you aren't a title contender, or could use the boost elsewhere, moving Kelce is the move to explore.The league where I have Kincaid , I have Kelce . But long term I think Kincaid helps more.
I got Kincaid in a few leagues and one has Pitts, Laporta and Musgrave. I would not remotely consider trading him for this return.Agree with both of you. The owner trading Kincaid has Pitts.Agree - I have Kincaid in a 1QB TEP 16 teamer and unless I had another viable TE where I thought the 6 would improve me at another position more than my drop off from Kincaid to my other TE, I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on it.I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
I dont disagree with you. In this case, I think the owner is targeting the top RB in this draft (could be a big mistake) because he only has 1 RB (Bijan). His number 2 is Dowdle I guess. Not defending, just explaining.I got Kincaid in a few leagues and one has Pitts, Laporta and Musgrave. I would not remotely consider trading him for this return.Agree with both of you. The owner trading Kincaid has Pitts.Agree - I have Kincaid in a 1QB TEP 16 teamer and unless I had another viable TE where I thought the 6 would improve me at another position more than my drop off from Kincaid to my other TE, I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on it.I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
Actually never undertood why in FFPC or any TEP league why anyone would think just having one good TE is any better then just say having two good WR's or two good RB's.
Probably fair short term vs long term trade. I’ll gladly take flowers and spears for that.FFPC,1QB,BestBall
Gave; Mixon, Aaron Jones, 3.07, 2x 2025 3rds
Got; Spears, Zay Flowers
Which is exactly why I put the qualifier in my response that the player I anticipated getting at 6 would have to improve my lineup more than the drop from Kincaid to my next TE to even consider dealing - guess I could have elaborated, as obviously you can dig in to flex considerations, etc. with dual TE lineups, but the general sentiment is the same.I dont disagree with you. In this case, I think the owner is targeting the top RB in this draft (could be a big mistake) because he only has 1 RB (Bijan). His number 2 is Dowdle I guess. Not defending, just explaining.I got Kincaid in a few leagues and one has Pitts, Laporta and Musgrave. I would not remotely consider trading him for this return.Agree with both of you. The owner trading Kincaid has Pitts.Agree - I have Kincaid in a 1QB TEP 16 teamer and unless I had another viable TE where I thought the 6 would improve me at another position more than my drop off from Kincaid to my other TE, I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on it.I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
Actually never undertood why in FFPC or any TEP league why anyone would think just having one good TE is any better then just say having two good WR's or two good RB's.
The bigger question I have for you is (based on your TE vs WR/RB logic) where are drafting Bowers in FFPC? Do you draft him ahead of the top 3 Wrs?
FFPC,1QB,BestBall
Gave; Mixon, Aaron Jones, 3.07, 2x 2025 3rds
Got; Spears, Zay Flowers
Sorry - I also sent a future 2nd in that deal. Probably changes things slightlyFFPC,1QB,BestBall
Gave; Mixon, Aaron Jones, 3.07, 2x 2025 3rds
Got; Spears, Zay Flowers
You have committed extreme thievery
I missed the 2nd that I also sent in that deal.Probably fair short term vs long term trade. I’ll gladly take flowers and spears for that.FFPC,1QB,BestBall
Gave; Mixon, Aaron Jones, 3.07, 2x 2025 3rds
Got; Spears, Zay Flowers
With regards to the owner targeting a RB. Understand , he does need one, but think he should have waited because RB1 might go 5 or just not be on par with Kincaids value. On the flip side it should in theory not be any harder to deal a TE during the draft then now. If I was in his shoes I'd have waited at a minimum to make sure that if I was willing to move Kincaid for RB I was in position to obtain one worthy.I dont disagree with you. In this case, I think the owner is targeting the top RB in this draft (could be a big mistake) because he only has 1 RB (Bijan). His number 2 is Dowdle I guess. Not defending, just explaining.I got Kincaid in a few leagues and one has Pitts, Laporta and Musgrave. I would not remotely consider trading him for this return.Agree with both of you. The owner trading Kincaid has Pitts.Agree - I have Kincaid in a 1QB TEP 16 teamer and unless I had another viable TE where I thought the 6 would improve me at another position more than my drop off from Kincaid to my other TE, I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger on it.I have Kincaid and don’t think I’d trade him for that but I’d think for a long time about it.1QB TEP
Kincaid
For
1.6 and likely mid early 2025 2nd
Actually never undertood why in FFPC or any TEP league why anyone would think just having one good TE is any better then just say having two good WR's or two good RB's.
The bigger question I have for you is (based on your TE vs WR/RB logic) where are drafting Bowers in FFPC? Do you draft him ahead of the top 3 Wrs?
FWIW, I misread the 2025 picks as being 2nd rounders.I missed the 2nd that I also sent in that deal.Probably fair short term vs long term trade. I’ll gladly take flowers and spears for that.FFPC,1QB,BestBall
Gave; Mixon, Aaron Jones, 3.07, 2x 2025 3rds
Got; Spears, Zay Flowers
Fair trade. I'm not as high on Spears and Flowers so I could see myself taking the top. Especially if I had a strong team and needed the RB for an an even stronger playoff run.FFPC,1QB,BestBall
Gave; Mixon, Aaron Jones, 3.07, 2025 2nd, 2x 2025 3rds
Got; Spears, Zay Flowers
Sorry - I also sent a future 2nd in that deal. Probably changes things slightlyFFPC,1QB,BestBall
Gave; Mixon, Aaron Jones, 3.07, 2x 2025 3rds
Got; Spears, Zay Flowers
You have committed extreme thievery