****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (19 Viewers)

[ghostguy123]

12 team SF PPR

Gave: Rashee Rice
Got: Breece Hall

Didn’t realize these two were in the same ballpark.

They're not

Posted it in a couple places. Mixed reactions. Think they’re both pretty polarizing

I'm actually shocked how close KTC and Fantasypros have them ranked overall. As a Hall owner it's an instant reject - but I also don't believe for a second that the Jets backfield is headed for a 3 headed monster situation for this season.

This forum tends to be way higher on Breece than the consensus.

I just did a triflex startup and Rice went at 4.06 and Breece at 5.09.

Startup ADP has Rice about half a round ahead, 4.04 versus 4.09.

I worry that Breece's 70+ catch season will end up being an outlier in his career, and as a runner he's been pretty pedestrian. Everyone seems to hope that's all the fault of the Jets and he'll get out of there soon, but both of those are far from a given.

The startup data I have has Breece like 10 picks ahead of Rice

 

[Soulfly3]

I'd take TLaw myself, quite easily. Man has pedigree and weapons.

Purdy had game manager status for 1 season.

That's just me. Neither a game breaker ATM

 

[JoeJoe88]

I'd take TLaw myself, quite easily. Man has pedigree and weapons.

Purdy had game manager status for 1 season.

That's just me. Neither a game breaker ATM

Last year in my main dynasty league, Brock averaged over 4 fantasy points more per week than Lawrence. The prior year, he was around 3 points more.

People are still clouded by Brock’s Mr. Irrelevant status.

 

[Birdie048]

I'd take TLaw myself, quite easily. Man has pedigree and weapons.

Purdy had game manager status for 1 season.

That's just me. Neither a game breaker ATM

Last year in my main dynasty league, Brock averaged over 4 fantasy points more per week than Lawrence. The prior year, he was around 3 points more.

People are still clouded by Brock’s Mr. Irrelevant status.

Not so much draft status but direction of the offense and how promising TLaw’s future looks with the HC/OC and weapons compared to the limited SF future with CMC & Kittle being on final legs of careers

 

[JoeJoe88]

I'd take TLaw myself, quite easily. Man has pedigree and weapons.

Purdy had game manager status for 1 season.

That's just me. Neither a game breaker ATM

Last year in my main dynasty league, Brock averaged over 4 fantasy points more per week than Lawrence. The prior year, he was around 3 points more.

People are still clouded by Brock’s Mr. Irrelevant status.

Not so much draft status but direction of the offense and how promising TLaw’s future looks with the HC/OC and weapons compared to the limited SF future with CMC & Kittle being on final legs of careers

Respectfully disagree. I think with a good number of fantasy gamers it does play a big part. If Purdy were a 1st round pick, he wouldn’t constantly be doubted after putting up back to back QB1 seasons.

Maybe it’s time to accept Lawrence may just not be the generational talent we thought he was?

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I'd take TLaw myself, quite easily. Man has pedigree and weapons.

Purdy had game manager status for 1 season.

That's just me. Neither a game breaker ATM

Brock Purdy's "game manager" season was better than anything Lawrence has done in his career.

The reality is Lawrence's fantasy upside was always way overrated. I've made many posts about this in the Lawrence thread. Relative to the talent he had at Clemson, surrounded by 1st round pick after 1st round pick, playing against competition that didn't belong on the same field as them, he underperformed statistically. People just didn't notice because they forget to put college stats in the context of college stats on a dominant team. His stats are pretty "meh" given that context. When you have a very good QB on a team that dominant, they put up otherworldly numbers.

9ypa and 160ish QB rating on a dominant college team is actually very poor. He was miles behind guys like Baker, Kyler, Tua, etc who put up YPA closer to 12, QB ratings closer to 200. Every efficiency stat is the same story. Trevor was way behind, more in the range of guys that end up 4th-7th round prospects coming off a dominant team like that.

He's basically Will Howard with more hype and better football hair. He was always the most overrated prospect in history. Nearly any competent QB could have matched his very ordinary efficiency numbers on a team as dominant as that, playing against the competition he was.

 

[Soulfly3]

I've always considered Lawrence overrated, and still do.

But I'd still take him over Purdy. Lawrence on the Niners would have been a super stud, instead he's been trapped in a nightmare that's finally starting to see light, imo.

Again, wouldn't want either as a starter, but if I'm choosing, it's TLaw

 

[JohnnyU]

I've always considered Lawrence overrated, and still do.

But I'd still take him over Purdy. Lawrence on the Niners would have been a super stud, instead he's been trapped in a nightmare that's finally starting to see light, imo.

Again, wouldn't want either as a starter, but if I'm choosing, it's TLaw

Lawrence isn’t nearly as good as I thought he would be. To me, from a fantasy perspective, the two aren’t that much different from each other. Or not enough that I care.

 

[menobrown]

12 team SF PPR

Gave: TLaw, ‘26 4th
Got: Purdy, 4.07

Give me the Purdy side. Dude is so underrated.

While I do agree that Purdy is underrated, have even tried to make the point that while he may not throw as nice a ball as Stroud I put them in the same style and tier of fantasy QB's, and Purdy has actually outscored him both of Stroud's seasons, but he's not even valued half of Stroud. Not trying to make this about Stroud, just highlighting that how little people value Purdy despite solid fantasy performance.

All that being said I'd prefer Trevor.

I guess people could paint this as a negative on Trevor but Brian Thomas really did not full on break out until second half of the year when Trevor was out. Now add in Hunter, Cohen and a passing game that won't run from the inside/out like Pederson's scheme and mix in a putrid defense and I just like that formula and feel like he has a little higher upside then Purdy.

 

[Birdie048]

I guess people could paint this as a negative on Trevor but Brian Thomas really did not full on break out until second half of the year when Trevor was out. Now add in Hunter, Cohen and a passing game that won't run from the inside/out like Pederson's scheme and mix in a putrid defense and I just like that formula and feel like he has a little higher upside then Purdy.

I guess I am seeing this as what I was trying to say.

SF offense is not going in the same direction to me.
YES, Purdy has been better .... but future value is what is being valued in Dynasty more here IMO

 

[JohnnyU]

I guess people could paint this as a negative on Trevor but Brian Thomas really did not full on break out until second half of the year when Trevor was out. Now add in Hunter, Cohen and a passing game that won't run from the inside/out like Pederson's scheme and mix in a putrid defense and I just like that formula and feel like he has a little higher upside then Purdy.

I guess I am seeing this as what I was trying to say.

SF offense is not going in the same direction to me.
YES, Purdy has been better .... but future value is what is being valued in Dynasty more here IMO

Purdy has plenty of weapons too.

 

[menobrown]

I guess people could paint this as a negative on Trevor but Brian Thomas really did not full on break out until second half of the year when Trevor was out. Now add in Hunter, Cohen and a passing game that won't run from the inside/out like Pederson's scheme and mix in a putrid defense and I just like that formula and feel like he has a little higher upside then Purdy.

I guess I am seeing this as what I was trying to say.

SF offense is not going in the same direction to me.
YES, Purdy has been better .... but future value is what is being valued in Dynasty more here IMO

Purdy has plenty of weapons too.

Sure but I think their weapons are going in opposite directions.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Purdy can be underrated, Trevor can be overrated, and Coen and friends can support Trevor enough to reach mid-low qb 1 status.

 

[sheerterror]

Sigh. I’m deeply conflicted about this trade.
16 team, IDP PPR TE-P SF start 11/11

Gave: Breece+A.Al-Shaair
Rec’d: Saquon Barkley

Won a ship in 2023, but aging team. My plan was to see if I was in contention this year, and sell at the deadline if I’m not competing.

That’s still the plan.
lol

My first Barkley dynasty share. Feels good. Feels real good.

I don’t love it. I do believe it puts more points on the board for 2 years. And I can always flip him for 2 1sts at the deadline things go south.

So this is an example of Breece still carrying pretty substantial trade value. Conversely I couldn't imagine being able to buy Barkley for Rashee Rice. But again I'm overall fairly surprised at just how big of a hit Breece's value has taken as far as startup ADP is concerned. I might be too close to him.

 

[menobrown]

Wow....where can I get in to the leagues where JJ goes so low. That is like the 3rd or 4th criminally bad trade posted in here for him in the last couple of months

Seriously mind blowing. I’ve seen several awful returns on JJ on Reddit as well.

It’s absolutely bizarre. Darnold proved that JJ is QB-proof. IMO it’s Chase & JJ as WR1-2 in dynasty, and both are cornerstone players.

I wish someone in my leagues would move off of JJ that affordably. No one in any of them even want to trade him, including the rebuilding team - I inquired in group chat and was met with a flat “not interested in selling JJ. Building around him”.

Sensible response IMO.

Me too. I got offered 1.04, 1.07, a future 1st, and 2.07 for him and turned it down. I'm a championship team with no desire to make my team worse. These offers in here are just laughable. You just don't move players like that unless you get blown away and these definitely aren't that. Maybe I should start asking what people want in my other dynasty leagues where I dont' have him.

Conversely 2 days ago in a a one start QB single PPR league I was offered JJ, Hockenson, and Aaron Jones for 1.6, 1.7, 1.11, 2.4 and 2.6 and was not interested.

I probably would have snapped accept, but this is team build dependent of course. With all those picks I’m assuming you need more bodies.

But it’s very likely that nothing you’d get at 1.06, 1.07, 1.11, 2.04 or 2.06 would come close to the ceiling of JJ. That you would have received Hock & AJ as well is just icing on the cake (though I don’t assign a ton of future value to AJ)

That’s a pretty reasonable price to pay for JJ, in my opinion.

But again, if you’re in a rebuild, having the picks is likely more value.

Just to circle back on this.

My team is light on core big time player but whether I used the picks to take players or did something like take this trade I would be trying to compete next year, not look at it as a blow off rebuild year. But I think making the picks put me in a competitive rebuild.

I was set at QB, in terms of ADP my RB2 was Tracy, my WR3 was Jayden Reed and my TE2 was Kmet with Barkely as RB1, Marvin and Godwin as WR1 and 2 and Njoku as TE1.

So if I took that trade I might have been better next year with a lineup of Josh Allen, Barkley, Jones, JJ, Godwin, Marvin, and Njoku or Hock with a flex somewhere. But I'd have been an old team with a really small window and really still pretty thin at RB and WR.

Instead with those picks which were 6,7, 11, 2.4 and 2.6(and a 4.6 I threw in as part of a trade to move) I turned those into Judkins and Tuten for my RB group. Tet, Egbuka and Kyle Williams for my WR group and Mason Taylor at TE.

Curious what some of you who said I should have taken that offer think, but it might be hard to convince me I did not do the best thing for my teams future making those picks instead.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Sigh. I’m deeply conflicted about this trade.
16 team, IDP PPR TE-P SF start 11/11

Gave: Breece+A.Al-Shaair
Rec’d: Saquon Barkley

Won a ship in 2023, but aging team. My plan was to see if I was in contention this year, and sell at the deadline if I’m not competing.

That’s still the plan.
lol

My first Barkley dynasty share. Feels good. Feels real good.

I don’t love it. I do believe it puts more points on the board for 2 years. And I can always flip him for 2 1sts at the deadline things go south.

So this is an example of Breece still carrying pretty substantial trade value. Conversely I couldn't imagine being able to buy Barkley for Rashee Rice. But again I'm overall fairly surprised at just how big of a hit Breece's value has taken as far as startup ADP is concerned. I might be too close to him.

I was a little bit surprised Iwas able to pull that off. That said, I did get four years older at running back and a high mileage guy at that. And Azeez is a top rated linebacker.

And if Hall becomes the starting running back for a good team next year, I’m going to be kicking myself for years over this.

On the other hand, if I win a ship because of the deal, it was easily worth it.

And I feel like if I stick to my plan to rebuild at the deadline if I’m not competitive, it will be much easier to flip Barkley to a contender then it would be to flip hall if he’s in a three-way committee.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Wow....where can I get in to the leagues where JJ goes so low. That is like the 3rd or 4th criminally bad trade posted in here for him in the last couple of months

Seriously mind blowing. I’ve seen several awful returns on JJ on Reddit as well.

It’s absolutely bizarre. Darnold proved that JJ is QB-proof. IMO it’s Chase & JJ as WR1-2 in dynasty, and both are cornerstone players.

I wish someone in my leagues would move off of JJ that affordably. No one in any of them even want to trade him, including the rebuilding team - I inquired in group chat and was met with a flat “not interested in selling JJ. Building around him”.

Sensible response IMO.

Me too. I got offered 1.04, 1.07, a future 1st, and 2.07 for him and turned it down. I'm a championship team with no desire to make my team worse. These offers in here are just laughable. You just don't move players like that unless you get blown away and these definitely aren't that. Maybe I should start asking what people want in my other dynasty leagues where I dont' have him.

Conversely 2 days ago in a a one start QB single PPR league I was offered JJ, Hockenson, and Aaron Jones for 1.6, 1.7, 1.11, 2.4 and 2.6 and was not interested.

I probably would have snapped accept, but this is team build dependent of course. With all those picks I’m assuming you need more bodies.

But it’s very likely that nothing you’d get at 1.06, 1.07, 1.11, 2.04 or 2.06 would come close to the ceiling of JJ. That you would have received Hock & AJ as well is just icing on the cake (though I don’t assign a ton of future value to AJ)

That’s a pretty reasonable price to pay for JJ, in my opinion.

But again, if you’re in a rebuild, having the picks is likely more value.

Just to circle back on this.

My team is light on core big time player but whether I used the picks to take players or did something like take this trade I would be trying to compete next year, not look at it as a blow off rebuild year. But I think making the picks put me in a competitive rebuild.

I was set at QB, in terms of ADP my RB2 was Tracy, my WR3 was Jayden Reed and my TE2 was Kmet with Barkely as RB1, Marvin and Godwin as WR1 and 2 and Njoku as TE1.

So if I took that trade I might have been better next year with a lineup of Josh Allen, Barkley, Jones, JJ, Godwin, Marvin, and Njoku or Hock with a flex somewhere. But I'd have been an old team with a really small window and really still pretty thin at RB and WR.

Instead with those picks which were 6,7, 11, 2.4 and 2.6(and a 4.6 I threw in as part of a trade to move) I turned those into Judkins and Tuten for my RB group. Tet, Egbuka and Kyle Williams for my WR group and Mason Taylor at TE.

Curious what some of you who said I should have taken that offer think, but it might be hard to convince me I did not do the best thing for my teams future making those picks instead.

I wasn't one who advocated for JJ and would have kept the picks as well; nice job!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Curious what some of you who said I should have taken that offer think, but it might be hard to convince me I did not do the best thing for my teams future making those picks instead.

Well, first I wasn’t one who said you should have taken the offer.

I said I probably would snap accept. There’s a world of difference between those two statements.

I also said it was “team build dependent”. Knowing more about your team now, it does feel more like a coin flip, though I maintain that the offer for Jetta is fairly reasonable. I’ve seen him go for more.

And that all said, it’s really not possible to properly answer/evaluate whether you made the right decision or not. Those players all have to live up to expectations. There’s a lot of hype over them because it’s so close to the draft. The players still have to deliver, which is TBD for any rookie. I’m sure folks who drafted Ruggs thought they’d locked down a WR slot for a decade, for one glaring example.

I know for a fact that Jefferson is an uber stud cornerstone player in dynasty. I also keep in mind that players are fungible. Dealing for one doesn’t mean marrying one - you could have made that deal, then flipped Hock & AJones for other stuff.

I am also reasonably certain that none of the assets you acquired with those picks have the present day value of Jefferson.

There’s definitely potential that your picks improved your overall roster, and extended the competitive window. I see the plan, and I respect the plan. I hope it works out to your expectations. There’s a good chance it will be a glowing success. But at the risk of stating the obvious, a lot has to go right for quite a few players for that to happen. The more players you need to hit, the lower the odds are of them all hitting.

On paper and knowing more about your squad, I do like your moves a little bit better than taking that deal. But the resulting roster from that deal sounded like a potential league-winner. So it’s hard to say.

Would I sacrifice a few future years to win a ship this year? I probably would. Should you? You’re the only one who can answer that.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

@menobrown - For some reason that post was missing some lines. I’ve updated it.

 

[Dez]

Can't fix stupid

This guy traded away Nico for 1.05 and 1.08 picks which is fine but he declared "Rebuild is on"

Then today he trades away in a 14 team 1 QB league

His 2026 1st (He was 3rd worst team last year WITH NICO)
for
Tua and a 2026 2nd of the guy who finished 2nd place last year

 

[JohnnyU]

Can't fix stupid

This guy traded away Nico for 1.05 and 1.08 picks which is fine but he declared "Rebuild is on"

Then today he trades away in a 14 team 1 QB league

His 2026 1st (He was 3rd worst team last year WITH NICO)
for
Tua and a 2026 2nd of the guy who finished 2nd place last year

Bourbon and trading don't mix.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Can't fix stupid

This guy traded away Nico for 1.05 and 1.08 picks which is fine but he declared "Rebuild is on"

Then today he trades away in a 14 team 1 QB league

His 2026 1st (He was 3rd worst team last year WITH NICO)
for
Tua and a 2026 2nd of the guy who finished 2nd place last year

omg

Ok, so the first rule of rebuilding is: *keep your own 1st round pick!*

The second rule of rebuilding is: see rule #1

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Btw, I believe he was closer to 14 ppg last year in PPR.

We must have different scoring systems. He only had 3 games over 20 in my league, and averaged 12.1, right between Rashid Shaheed and Khalil Shakir.

I'm not looking to get into the Zay Flowers debate, I'm sure it's all been covered, but in FFPC leagues which are standard PPR with performance scoring(which I don't think factored into a single point for him since he does not play defense or special teams) he's hit exactly 12.9 PPG each of his two seasons. Not sure how all these numbers can be so far off from each other? I don't think he's ever fumbled, has one rushing TD and one 2 point conversion. Pretty standard stuff. Was actually right between DK and Pickens in this format last year.

Either way his PPG production is amazingly consistent considering his actual week to week variance is very much not that.

I think people all can agree he is a consistent asset. I think the argument is more that people are talking him up as a great fantasy asset with this huge ceiling and being worth a top 3 pick. He is fine but I'd much rather take a top 7-8 pick in this draft easily and swing for something that can truly be special. Like Brian Thomas last year who went in that range or later.

In all fairness though, BTJ (removing anything he has done in the NFL) would have been the top WR prospect this year. I think BTJ's college film is better than Tet McMillan or Travis Hunter. This draft isn't as stacked as advertised because a lot of players went to spots that are pretty meh.

This was the year we were all supposed to get starting caliber RB's to be instant contenders and the draft really only produced 5 RB's with a fantasy first round grade for me.

I don't think Zay Flowers is a stud but comparing any WR to BTJ in this draft class seems pretty far-fetched.

Comparing Hunter to BTJ farfetched? How so?

BTJ was in his 3rd season and had Nabers pulling traffic for him. He is a great WR and was great in college too

But Hunter had more receptions and more yds. 2 fewer TDs, in his 2nd season, w no other weapons and playing both sides of the ball

Not sure how there's no comparison

I can get the argument here but we don't even know if Hunter will play 100% of the snaps on offense. Playing both sides opens him up to injuries way more than not. Also,, Hunter played for Colorado in the Big 10 where BTJ played in the SEC. Makes a huge difference. Also, I think he passes the eye test more for me. I view him as a much better prospect but I'm not high on Hunter personally. I can see how some could make the argument though. Its not crazy far fetched but I feel very confident on being on the BTJ side and don't feel its all that close.

Other than snap count, which will likely be closely monitored, how does playing both ways increase risk of injury?

Mostly snap count. Dudes just don't play 120 snaps per game in the pros. Normally not more than 60ish or so. But it will also put more snaps/work on his body in practice as he will need 1st team reps on O and D. I'd say a snap count even in the 90s puts him at more chance of injury. He could be good but I'll let others take that risk personally. Also, playing 120 snaps per game against the Big 12 is very different than the NFL.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

This was the year we were all supposed to get starting caliber RB's to be instant contenders and the draft really only produced 5 RB's with a fantasy first round grade for me.

Not to get off subject but ADP(using FFPC), and me, has 6 RB's in the first 8-9 players.

Compare that probably the greatest RB class of all time, 2017, which had an ADP of 4 RB's in the top 10 but 6 in the top 12, 7 in top 13.

And both classes were comparable in terms of competition among WR and TE's so on the whole seems pretty comparable.

Not sure what your expectation is, and I've seen some other people express disappointment with the RB class, but I feel like it's really strong and we were not oversold on it at all.

I agree here. I do think people are reaching a bit to truly compare this class to 2017 but I do have 6 RBs easily in the top 10 personally. Hard to think we will get the later graded players in this class like 2017 got with Kittle, Godwin, Aaron Jones, Kamara in the 3rd but only time will tell. I like this class a lot and think people are just low on it due to hating the QBs and the top 10 WRs that got drafted aren't all that exciting.

I guess what I am saying is after pick 1.05, I think player values start to blend together and in my eyes 1.06 has no more value than 2.04 and I attribute my feelings to draft situation for many players.

1. Jeanty
2. Hampton
3. Hunter
4. McMillan
5. Judkins/Harvey

Everyone from Henderson to Skattebo, Burden to Egbuka to Goldin, both TE's Loveland and Warren, Cam Ward...

I think there are a lot of questions or obstacles for these players and you can trade pick 1.06 for 2.06 and probably get the same caliber of rookie + additional capital.

I can see what you are saying but I'd view Cam Ward (in SuperFlex), Warren/Loveland (in TE Premium especially the 1.5 premium I play in), Henderson and even Johnson belong in a much higher tier than most of those others listed like Skatteboo, Burden, Egbuka, or Goldin. I like Henderson a lot personally. All preference though but I think someone would be nuts to take Skatteboo at 1.06.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

12 team SF PPR

Gave: Rashee Rice
Got: Breece Hall

Wow. I would not sell Breece for this at all. Good move.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

PPR 1QB
Gave 1.05, Zay Flowers
Got 1.01

Wow. Did you kidnap him, log in to his phone, and accept this for him or something? How do people make trades like this. So terrible.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Mostly snap count. Dudes just don't play 120 snaps per game in the pros. Normally not more than 60ish or so. But it will also put more snaps/work on his body in practice as he will need 1st team reps on O and D. I'd say a snap count even in the 90s puts him at more chance of injury. He could be good but I'll let others take that risk personally. Also, playing 120 snaps per game against the Big 12 is very different than the NFL.

I agree with this. He’s worth the risk in IDP where you’re getting points for those plays, but every tackle he makes is like getting into another car crash. Every time he gets tackled on offense as well, but that’s a given with a WR.

Injuries are often a matter of some kind of fluke during the tackle that pulls, bends, catches/tweaks, or stretches a body part in a way it should be pulled, bent, caught/tweaked, or stretched.

There’s a chance for it with every snap.

The more snaps, the more times that happens per game, the greater the risk.

One other note about the defensive side - often on offense players see the tackle coming & try to avoid it. Sometimes they’ll step out of bounds, or slid down or dive or whatever. By contrast on defense players are throwing themselves around, with the goal of engaging in a tackle rather than avoiding one.

IMO those snaps are more dangerous.

As I said in another topic, I don’t even like to see my WR on KR/PR. I hold my breath every time.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Wow....where can I get in to the leagues where JJ goes so low. That is like the 3rd or 4th criminally bad trade posted in here for him in the last couple of months

Seriously mind blowing. I’ve seen several awful returns on JJ on Reddit as well.

It’s absolutely bizarre. Darnold proved that JJ is QB-proof. IMO it’s Chase & JJ as WR1-2 in dynasty, and both are cornerstone players.

I wish someone in my leagues would move off of JJ that affordably. No one in any of them even want to trade him, including the rebuilding team - I inquired in group chat and was met with a flat “not interested in selling JJ. Building around him”.

Sensible response IMO.

Me too. I got offered 1.04, 1.07, a future 1st, and 2.07 for him and turned it down. I'm a championship team with no desire to make my team worse. These offers in here are just laughable. You just don't move players like that unless you get blown away and these definitely aren't that. Maybe I should start asking what people want in my other dynasty leagues where I dont' have him.

Conversely 2 days ago in a a one start QB single PPR league I was offered JJ, Hockenson, and Aaron Jones for 1.6, 1.7, 1.11, 2.4 and 2.6 and was not interested.

I probably would have snapped accept, but this is team build dependent of course. With all those picks I’m assuming you need more bodies.

But it’s very likely that nothing you’d get at 1.06, 1.07, 1.11, 2.04 or 2.06 would come close to the ceiling of JJ. That you would have received Hock & AJ as well is just icing on the cake (though I don’t assign a ton of future value to AJ)

That’s a pretty reasonable price to pay for JJ, in my opinion.

But again, if you’re in a rebuild, having the picks is likely more value.

Just to circle back on this.

My team is light on core big time player but whether I used the picks to take players or did something like take this trade I would be trying to compete next year, not look at it as a blow off rebuild year. But I think making the picks put me in a competitive rebuild.

I was set at QB, in terms of ADP my RB2 was Tracy, my WR3 was Jayden Reed and my TE2 was Kmet with Barkely as RB1, Marvin and Godwin as WR1 and 2 and Njoku as TE1.

So if I took that trade I might have been better next year with a lineup of Josh Allen, Barkley, Jones, JJ, Godwin, Marvin, and Njoku or Hock with a flex somewhere. But I'd have been an old team with a really small window and really still pretty thin at RB and WR.

Instead with those picks which were 6,7, 11, 2.4 and 2.6(and a 4.6 I threw in as part of a trade to move) I turned those into Judkins and Tuten for my RB group. Tet, Egbuka and Kyle Williams for my WR group and Mason Taylor at TE.

Curious what some of you who said I should have taken that offer think, but it might be hard to convince me I did not do the best thing for my teams future making those picks instead.

I get why you stuck with the picks and that isn't a bad haul at all. Honestly though I have seen a ton of busts at those picks too. I like Judkins but they drafted another RB 2 rounds later and could keep taking more if he isn't the stud he should be (I like Henderson better as well), Tuten is an undersized RB3 on his own team on an offense we hope gets better, I'm low on Tet personally as he couldn't get separation in college like I'd like to see so don't think he will be able to separate in the pros (also this is the team that spent picks on guys like Mingo/Legette and failed) plus I'm not sold on Young, Egbuka is talented but has to wait for a crowded room to dissipate a little, and I like Williams a ton but this is a place WRs go to die in NE. Coach that wants to run, cold weather, and never done great with their WR picks. Oh and have we ever seen a TE be really good for the Jets?

It could work and honestly I do like Judkins, Egbuka, and Williams a lot. Taylor is good as well. I'm obviously playing devil's advocate on these players and not all will bust but not all will make it either. I'm a big believer in going and getting the big game players if you get a chance if the price isn't ridiculous. JJ isn't old either and is an elite prospect you can build a team around. We can't say any of those picks will be anything but just guys that are good but not great and that doesn't win you chips near as often as set it and forget it studs. Plus, you may have been able to flip Hock/Jones and got a little younger assets for them. I'm still firmly on the JJ side but I get the rebuild but with Barkley, Allen, and Godwin that feels like a team that can compete with the right management so I'd usually be trying if I could.

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

This was the year we were all supposed to get starting caliber RB's to be instant contenders and the draft really only produced 5 RB's with a fantasy first round grade for me.

Not to get off subject but ADP(using FFPC), and me, has 6 RB's in the first 8-9 players.

Compare that probably the greatest RB class of all time, 2017, which had an ADP of 4 RB's in the top 10 but 6 in the top 12, 7 in top 13.

And both classes were comparable in terms of competition among WR and TE's so on the whole seems pretty comparable.

Not sure what your expectation is, and I've seen some other people express disappointment with the RB class, but I feel like it's really strong and we were not oversold on it at all.

I agree here. I do think people are reaching a bit to truly compare this class to 2017 but I do have 6 RBs easily in the top 10 personally. Hard to think we will get the later graded players in this class like 2017 got with Kittle, Godwin, Aaron Jones, Kamara in the 3rd but only time will tell. I like this class a lot and think people are just low on it due to hating the QBs and the top 10 WRs that got drafted aren't all that exciting.

I guess what I am saying is after pick 1.05, I think player values start to blend together and in my eyes 1.06 has no more value than 2.04 and I attribute my feelings to draft situation for many players.

1. Jeanty
2. Hampton
3. Hunter
4. McMillan
5. Judkins/Harvey

Everyone from Henderson to Skattebo, Burden to Egbuka to Goldin, both TE's Loveland and Warren, Cam Ward...

I think there are a lot of questions or obstacles for these players and you can trade pick 1.06 for 2.06 and probably get the same caliber of rookie + additional capital.

I can see what you are saying but I'd view Cam Ward (in SuperFlex), Warren/Loveland (in TE Premium especially the 1.5 premium I play in), Henderson and even Johnson belong in a much higher tier than most of those others listed like Skatteboo, Burden, Egbuka, or Goldin. I like Henderson a lot personally. All preference though but I think someone would be nuts to take Skatteboo at 1.06.

I mostly agree with you and I am probably not explaining my stance very well here but I just think once you get beyond the players I named the predictability of roles/fit seems harder to decipher.

I have a clump of guys like Burden/Egbuka/Henderson and Kaleb Johnson ranked somewhat similarly, as I like the player a lot but dont like the situation. Situation is easier to navigate with WR than RB, as it can be more fluid... takes a lot for a bad team to get good enough to run the football consistently...

I feel like Egbuka is the safest player at 1.06-2.10 but I feel uneasy about all players in this range... I'm happier to spend a few seconds and move my first than to play whack-a-mole between Henderson, Kaleb Johnson and (to an extent) RJ Harvey.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

Mostly snap count. Dudes just don't play 120 snaps per game in the pros. Normally not more than 60ish or so. But it will also put more snaps/work on his body in practice as he will need 1st team reps on O and D. I'd say a snap count even in the 90s puts him at more chance of injury. He could be good but I'll let others take that risk personally. Also, playing 120 snaps per game against the Big 12 is very different than the NFL.

I agree with this. He’s worth the risk in IDP where you’re getting points for those plays, but every tackle he makes is like getting into another car crash. Every time he gets tackled on offense as well, but that’s a given with a WR.

Injuries are often a matter of some kind of fluke during the tackle that pulls, bends, catches/tweaks, or stretches a body part in a way it should be pulled, bent, caught/tweaked, or stretched.

There’s a chance for it with every snap.

The more snaps, the more times that happens per game, the greater the risk.

One other note about the defensive side - often on offense players see the tackle coming & try to avoid it. Sometimes they’ll step out of bounds, or slid down or dive or whatever. By contrast on defense players are throwing themselves around, with the goal of engaging in a tackle rather than avoiding one.

IMO those snaps are more dangerous.

As I said in another topic, I don’t even like to see my WR on KR/PR. I hold my breath every time.

I didn't even consider the extra punishment on D. Plus, getting blocked by lineman pulling or things like that. Can't protect yourself as much. Makes me feel even better about my stance and 100% agree.

 

[Jonesin For Some Football]

This was the year we were all supposed to get starting caliber RB's to be instant contenders and the draft really only produced 5 RB's with a fantasy first round grade for me.

Not to get off subject but ADP(using FFPC), and me, has 6 RB's in the first 8-9 players.

Compare that probably the greatest RB class of all time, 2017, which had an ADP of 4 RB's in the top 10 but 6 in the top 12, 7 in top 13.

And both classes were comparable in terms of competition among WR and TE's so on the whole seems pretty comparable.

Not sure what your expectation is, and I've seen some other people express disappointment with the RB class, but I feel like it's really strong and we were not oversold on it at all.

I agree here. I do think people are reaching a bit to truly compare this class to 2017 but I do have 6 RBs easily in the top 10 personally. Hard to think we will get the later graded players in this class like 2017 got with Kittle, Godwin, Aaron Jones, Kamara in the 3rd but only time will tell. I like this class a lot and think people are just low on it due to hating the QBs and the top 10 WRs that got drafted aren't all that exciting.

I guess what I am saying is after pick 1.05, I think player values start to blend together and in my eyes 1.06 has no more value than 2.04 and I attribute my feelings to draft situation for many players.

1. Jeanty
2. Hampton
3. Hunter
4. McMillan
5. Judkins/Harvey

Everyone from Henderson to Skattebo, Burden to Egbuka to Goldin, both TE's Loveland and Warren, Cam Ward...

I think there are a lot of questions or obstacles for these players and you can trade pick 1.06 for 2.06 and probably get the same caliber of rookie + additional capital.

I can see what you are saying but I'd view Cam Ward (in SuperFlex), Warren/Loveland (in TE Premium especially the 1.5 premium I play in), Henderson and even Johnson belong in a much higher tier than most of those others listed like Skatteboo, Burden, Egbuka, or Goldin. I like Henderson a lot personally. All preference though but I think someone would be nuts to take Skatteboo at 1.06.

I mostly agree with you and I am probably not explaining my stance very well here but I just think once you get beyond the players I named the predictability of roles/fit seems harder to decipher.

I have a clump of guys like Burden/Egbuka/Henderson and Kaleb Johnson ranked somewhat similarly, as I like the player a lot but dont like the situation. Situation is easier to navigate with WR than RB, as it can be more fluid... takes a lot for a bad team to get good enough to run the football consistently...

I feel like Egbuka is the safest player at 1.06-2.10 but I feel uneasy about all players in this range... I'm happier to spend a few seconds and move my first than to play whack-a-mole between Henderson, Kaleb Johnson and (to an extent) RJ Harvey.

Oh I can see that as well. Harvey scares me as 2nd round grade but we didn't know much about him before the Broncos reached for him. Egbuka a stud but might not see the field a ton early. Henderson has to share. All of them have warts. I would listen to offers in that range for sure and feel more comfortable trading down and drafting at like 8-10. Not sure I want to drop to 2.04 though. I am avoiding players like Golden as GB WRs scare me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I didn't even consider the extra punishment on D. Plus, getting blocked by lineman pulling or things like that. Can't protect yourself as much. Makes me feel even better about my stance and 100% agree.

Yeah, I was recently considering a move up to 1.02 in a 16 team SF (owner ended up wanting too much for my tastes) to get Hunter, knowing 1.01 was Jeanty.

In IDP he’s an absolute cheat code. Even assuming a modest defensive workload, say 2 PD, 1 TKL, 1 ATK, that’s 6 points in my format, so it’s like getting an extra TD per game. If he gets a pick or (gasp) a pick-6, there’s a dozen points on 1 play. So there could be boom weeks where he goes 5/85/1 on offense & has 2 TKL, 2 PD & and Int on defense, for a 19.5+13=32.5 day.

So in IDP, I think he’s totally worth the gamble.

Non IDP format I’m taking Cam and trying to flip him for a safer WR.

 

[JohnnyU]

Today I gave Kyren Williams and Xavier Worthy for Saquon Barkley. 12 team ppr DEVY. My team is young otherwise, so if I can get two good years out of him I’ll be satisfied.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Today I gave Kyren Williams and Xavier Worthy for Saquon Barkley. 12 team ppr DEVY. My team is young otherwise, so if I can get two good years out of him I’ll be satisfied.

Big boy trade, I like it.

As someone who just dealt for Barkley, go us!

 

[TVT 0 N S T A]

This was the year we were all supposed to get starting caliber RB's to be instant contenders and the draft really only produced 5 RB's with a fantasy first round grade for me.

Not to get off subject but ADP(using FFPC), and me, has 6 RB's in the first 8-9 players.

Compare that probably the greatest RB class of all time, 2017, which had an ADP of 4 RB's in the top 10 but 6 in the top 12, 7 in top 13.

And both classes were comparable in terms of competition among WR and TE's so on the whole seems pretty comparable.

Not sure what your expectation is, and I've seen some other people express disappointment with the RB class, but I feel like it's really strong and we were not oversold on it at all.

I agree here. I do think people are reaching a bit to truly compare this class to 2017 but I do have 6 RBs easily in the top 10 personally. Hard to think we will get the later graded players in this class like 2017 got with Kittle, Godwin, Aaron Jones, Kamara in the 3rd but only time will tell. I like this class a lot and think people are just low on it due to hating the QBs and the top 10 WRs that got drafted aren't all that exciting.

I guess what I am saying is after pick 1.05, I think player values start to blend together and in my eyes 1.06 has no more value than 2.04 and I attribute my feelings to draft situation for many players.

1. Jeanty
2. Hampton
3. Hunter
4. McMillan
5. Judkins/Harvey

Everyone from Henderson to Skattebo, Burden to Egbuka to Goldin, both TE's Loveland and Warren, Cam Ward...

I think there are a lot of questions or obstacles for these players and you can trade pick 1.06 for 2.06 and probably get the same caliber of rookie + additional capital.

I can see what you are saying but I'd view Cam Ward (in SuperFlex), Warren/Loveland (in TE Premium especially the 1.5 premium I play in), Henderson and even Johnson belong in a much higher tier than most of those others listed like Skatteboo, Burden, Egbuka, or Goldin. I like Henderson a lot personally. All preference though but I think someone would be nuts to take Skatteboo at 1.06.

I mostly agree with you and I am probably not explaining my stance very well here but I just think once you get beyond the players I named the predictability of roles/fit seems harder to decipher.

I have a clump of guys like Burden/Egbuka/Henderson and Kaleb Johnson ranked somewhat similarly, as I like the player a lot but dont like the situation. Situation is easier to navigate with WR than RB, as it can be more fluid... takes a lot for a bad team to get good enough to run the football consistently...

I feel like Egbuka is the safest player at 1.06-2.10 but I feel uneasy about all players in this range... I'm happier to spend a few seconds and move my first than to play whack-a-mole between Henderson, Kaleb Johnson and (to an extent) RJ Harvey.

Oh I can see that as well. Harvey scares me as 2nd round grade but we didn't know much about him before the Broncos reached for him. Egbuka a stud but might not see the field a ton early. Henderson has to share. All of them have warts. I would listen to offers in that range for sure and feel more comfortable trading down and drafting at like 8-10. Not sure I want to drop to 2.04 though. I am avoiding players like Golden as GB WRs scare me.

That is fair but that is probably where you'd have to find a trade partner to gain real value is 2.01-2.05 and, though I share you sentiments about Golden, I think there are fine players Higgins, Harris, Skattebo and Bech?

I have 1.05 and would like to move up to 1.05. Most recent trade I saw was Zay Flowers + 1.05 for 1.01. Maybe 1.05 & 2.10 + Waddle?

What should 1.02 go for and is Omarion Hampton the better RB and in a better situation?

 

[mzkp54]

12 team SF

Gave: T Higgins, ‘27 3rd
Got: Jordan Love

 

[mjb03003]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

 

[kutta]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

Dang. That’s a super interesting trade.
I love Chase. But that’s a great price for him.
My opinion is…

 

[JoeJoe88]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

I know it’s Chase but I’m taking the Puka side there.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

12 team SF

Gave: T Higgins, ‘27 3rd
Got: Jordan Love

Seems fair. Hard to get QBs.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

I know it’s Chase but I’m taking the Puka side there.

Nope. Chase all day for me. That wouldn’t get Chase from me in a million years. That’s an absolute steal IMO.

Chase is a hammer. The ultimate hammer. Last year he topped 40 a 3 times and one of those he topped 55! Thats obscene and can win you weeks.

Puka is fine, but the injury history combined with his aging QB are both concerns. And I’ve never seen him approach Chase’s numbers. Chase has the floor, the ceiling, & the QB.

He’s my boo, and the random 1st & 2nd don’t bridge the gap for me from Chase to Puka.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

16 team SF PPR TEP IDP

I gave: 2027 1st, 2027 2nd, 2027 3rd,
2026 4th, 2026 5th, 2025 7th

I rec’d: Geno Smith + Denille Hunter

DEs can score 20-50 a week in this format and I needed a 2nd starter.

I’m planning on flipping Geno or selling Darnold to get a piece to help me elsewhere (WR or TE, maybe a 1st round draft pick) since I also have Baker.

Decided to really go for it again this year & a QB is waaaaaay easier to move than a 2027 1st. When dude put him on the block I hatched a plan.

 

[kutta]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

I know it’s Chase but I’m taking the Puka side there.

Nope. Chase all day for me. That wouldn’t get Chase from me in a million years. That’s an absolute steal IMO.

Chase is a hammer. The ultimate hammer. Last year he topped 40 a 3 times and one of those he topped 55! Thats obscene and can win you weeks.

Puka is fine, but the injury history combined with his aging QB are both concerns. And I’ve never seen him approach Chase’s numbers. Chase has the floor, the ceiling, & the QB.

He’s my boo, and the random 1st & 2nd don’t bridge the gap for me from Chase to Puka.

I’m with with you on Chase. I love the guy. So I went to do some research.
Chase was first in PPG scoring with 22.7.
Puka was third in PPG scoring with 18.4.
Chase missed no games, Puka missed 5 games.
So, I thought, let’s see how many games Puka outscores Chase so I can put @Hot Sauce Guy in his place.


Once. By almost 4 points. That’s it.

And Puka has a declining QB situation.

Getting a 1 and 2 AND Puka is great. But I’m leaning towards HSG now. Give me the top dynasty asset (at least top 3) here.

 

[JohnnyU]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

I prefer the Chase side.

 

[Birdie048]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

I know it’s Chase but I’m taking the Puka side there.

Depends on how high the picks are in 2026…
Are we in the 1.02-1.04 range or 1.09-1.11 range. Big difference IMO on where the picks fall
But I like it for both sides

 

[JoeJoe88]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

I know it’s Chase but I’m taking the Puka side there.

Depends on how high the picks are in 2026…
Are we in the 1.02-1.04 range or 1.09-1.11 range. Big difference IMO on where the picks fall
But I like it for both sides

This is the most rational way to look at this, I agree.

 

[sheerterror]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

Big boy trade. Wow

 

[ghostguy123]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

Chase.

 

[King of the Jungle]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

Chase is one the few receivers capable of hitting 2000 yards (and a boatload of TDs). Chase by a bit imo.

 

[mjb03003]

Gave: Puka Nacua, 2026 1st, 2026 2nd
Got: Ja’Marr Chase

I know it’s Chase but I’m taking the Puka side there.

Depends on how high the picks are in 2026…
Are we in the 1.02-1.04 range or 1.09-1.11 range. Big difference IMO on where the picks fall
But I like it for both sides

The 1st was my own and I am defending champion and dont' plan on falling off (roster is stacked). 2nd was someone else's I acquired in a previous deal... call it a mid 2nd.