titusbramble
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I mean unless someone with a first round grades has dropped like a stone that makes no sense
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (25 Viewers)
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Raging weasel
Footballguy
Gave- B Robinson , Sinnott and 2026 2nd
Received - Pollard, J McMillan and 2026 3rd
Sinnott was my third TE behind Kittle and Andrews and I drafted Taylor so was probably going to be cut unless I moved Andrews by then
Received - Pollard, J McMillan and 2026 3rd
Sinnott was my third TE behind Kittle and Andrews and I drafted Taylor so was probably going to be cut unless I moved Andrews by then
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I'm not saying I would do it and obviously the Walker side is winning on value, but there's more to fantasy football than just age, especially when the players are scoring very differently. And there are reasons running backs fall off a cliff in fantasy value other than age.
Kamara has outscored Walker substantially each of the last two years. There is a fair chance that Kamara still has more good fantasy seasons in the tank than Walker does because there is a fair chance that Walker has 0 left.
It seems like people are vastly underrating just how in danger of becoming fantasy mush Walker is. He's been poor as a runner each of the last two years, he's been banged up a lot, and he has probably the best backup RB in the league behind him, a guy that has been better than him when he's gotten chances.
There's a very real chance that Walker is next in the long line of guys like Najee Harris, Miles Sanders, Travis Etienne, Rachaad White, Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Antonio Gibson, etc that fell off a cliff because of poor production/play long before they got old enough to fall off a cliff due to age.
Or that he could go down the route of guys like Jamaal Williams, David Montgomery, D'Andre Swift, etc who were able to stick around, but only in a part time role with limited fantasy value.
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Dez
Footballguy
Guy who traded his future 1st has done so in 2 leagues now he took Burdon at 1.13 in my other and when I checked the board when I got up before he picked Burden was still on the board at 2.01 (pick 17) because at pick 14 the guy went DL, pick 15 went Skat, pick 16 when Sampson.
This same guy last year also traded his 2025 future 1st for 2.01 and it netted him Blake Corum (and his 2025 pick was 1.09 which he lost out on for that)
Dez
Footballguy
16 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP
I gave up Javonte Williams (breaks my heart to deal this guy I paid so much for him in several leagues)
2026 4th round pick
for
2026 2nd round pick
2026 3rd round pick
Also I still think Javonte can be good this year in Dallas and is still only 25 but I rather take this offer and not take the chance in 1 league where someone is offering me this for him while if he does do well I have him still in 2 other leagues where I suspect I can't move him for much at all.
I gave up Javonte Williams (breaks my heart to deal this guy I paid so much for him in several leagues)
2026 4th round pick
for
2026 2nd round pick
2026 3rd round pick
Also I still think Javonte can be good this year in Dallas and is still only 25 but I rather take this offer and not take the chance in 1 league where someone is offering me this for him while if he does do well I have him still in 2 other leagues where I suspect I can't move him for much at all.
Dez
Footballguy
I took him at the 1.08 in a startup in 2022 it still haunts me
Rockchild
Footballguy
It's not like Walker has been a reliable fantasy option. Not a trade I would make but Kamara catches a lot of passes and is pretty reliable.
You'd be hard pressed to find someone who posts here who values Kamara as much as I do but still don't think it's close.
I know Walker's had some injuries but just don't think people propertly understand the absolute crap surrounding cast and situation he's had to deal with. Some of that improved already, good chance it improves monumentally next off-season.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
This.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
And he’s still very young at 24.
I see no reason that should be a 1:1
If it was KWIII for an older but still able bodied WR like Adams? Sure. Maybe KWIII for Kupp + a 2nd? Maybe.
But straight up for Kamara? I’d be doing a forensic audit of their respective bank accounts. Seems sus.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Catches a lot of passes from… ?
Rockchild
Footballguy
We don't know yet but we're pretty sure they're not going to play without a QB this season
.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Are we?We don't know yet but we're pretty sure they're not going to play without a QB this season
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That deleted post was comedy. lol
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I thought Carr missed more games last year than he did.
Regardless, Kamara caught 21 passes in 4 games with Rattler at QB last year.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, it’s very unlikely to be the same guy.
nightmare
Footballguy
I'm a Ken Walker dynasty owner who would trade him away for a short term A Kamara.
When Kamara plays he is an 18 points per game scorer. Walker isn't.
Newsflash-The past two seasons Kamara has played in one more game then Walker.
You KNOW Kamara is going to miss some time. Age 29 VS 24. Give me the guy and the points
vs the guy who is all over the place in points per game when he plays.
When Kamara plays he is an 18 points per game scorer. Walker isn't.
Newsflash-The past two seasons Kamara has played in one more game then Walker.
You KNOW Kamara is going to miss some time. Age 29 VS 24. Give me the guy and the points
vs the guy who is all over the place in points per game when he plays.
sheerterror
Footballguy
hmm
Robinson >> Pollard
Sinnott ~= McMillan
2026 2nd >> 2026 3rd
Not really sure why you made this trade let alone had to give up the better draft pick.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Lord I wish you were in my league and I had AK.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Could be that it’s Brian Robinson and not Bijan?
Sure because Kamara catches a lot of passes. He's basically like rookie year Najee Harris. A volume sponge. And he may very well be better then Walker next year, I got them right next to each other.
But I think you have to consider how things would improve for Walker both in Seattle and outside of Seattle if he walks in FA after this upcoming year. Just in the past few years he's dealt with an atrocious interior OL, an overmatched OC and Charbs chipping away at his upside. The first of those two should be marked improvements next year and then he might leave.
Bottom line for me is I got them close in redraft, but Kamara's running out of time, I'm taking it year to year with him at this point and Walkers still got a few years left.
sheerterror
Footballguy
I think that's pretty apparent lolCould be that it’s Brian Robinson and not Bijan?
I don't view Brian and Pollard as having close to the same fantasy value, let alone enough in the other direction to warrant swapping a 2nd with a 3rd
I look at like this:
Robinson a tad over Pollard
The picks speak for themselves.
Free McMillan. Sinnot's not worth a roster spot, would not have drafted him the 7 round rookie draft but putting my feelings aside he was a 5th round pick in the rookie/FA pool, a range that I'd say 90% of the RB's, WR's and TE's won't make the opening roster.
McMillan's was cut in a few leagues and his ADP in the rookie draft was 2.10.
Using that as basic guide I'd say pick 2.10 makes up the small difference between B Rob and Pollard and for moving the 2026 second into round 3.
Final verdict to me: even on the whole, but better off for 2025 on the side acquiring Pollard and McMillan.
mjb03003
Footballguy
I think that's pretty apparent lolCould be that it’s Brian Robinson and not Bijan?
I don't view Brian and Pollard as having close to the same fantasy value, let alone enough in the other direction to warrant swapping a 2nd with a 3rd
I actually prefer Pollard to Brian Robinson by quite a bit. Pollard has quietly strung together three straight 1,000 yard rushing seasons and adds another 40+ receptions per year.
He’s older but he was very lightly used in his first 3 seasons in Dallas.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh I agree. lolI think that's pretty apparent lolCould be that it’s Brian Robinson and not Bijan?
I don't view Brian and Pollard as having close to the same fantasy value, let alone enough in the other direction to warrant swapping a 2nd with a 3rd
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
What’s remarkable is I’ve tried and failed to deal for him in both of my TEP leagues.
Owners must light a candle and place it in the window every night for him.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
I actually think Pollard is an upgrade over Brian Robinson and still think McMillan has some upside in the future.And yes,I would've been dropping Sinnott.
sheerterror
Footballguy
That fair but I'm the other way. Pollard is older with double the [albeit low] mileage. Robinson is on the much much better, ascending offense and they didn't add anything tangible to their RB room. Given his lower usage throughout last season, I think it's fair to say we haven't seen his ceiling yet assuming Wash doesn't add Chubb or someone to take some of the pie away.I think that's pretty apparent lolCould be that it’s Brian Robinson and not Bijan?
I don't view Brian and Pollard as having close to the same fantasy value, let alone enough in the other direction to warrant swapping a 2nd with a 3rd
I actually prefer Pollard to Brian Robinson by quite a bit. Pollard has quietly strung together three straight 1,000 yard rushing seasons and adds another 40+ receptions per year.
He’s older but he was very lightly used in his first 3 seasons in Dallas.
jm192
Footballguy
A 3rd got accepted in the same league above
10 teams, 1 QB, PPR, no TE Premium
Gave: Mike Evans, 4.08
Got: Trevor Lawrence, 3.09
Obviously it's hard to a 30 something. I'm glad to be able to get anything out of Evans.
My ONLY QB is Stroud. And Stroud may be better than Lawrence. But I really like Lawrence as a buy low right now. You go from Kirk and Ridley as your top WR's to BTJ and Hunter. Look how good Baker was last year under Coen.
10 teams, 1 QB, PPR, no TE Premium
Gave: Mike Evans, 4.08
Got: Trevor Lawrence, 3.09
Obviously it's hard to a 30 something. I'm glad to be able to get anything out of Evans.
My ONLY QB is Stroud. And Stroud may be better than Lawrence. But I really like Lawrence as a buy low right now. You go from Kirk and Ridley as your top WR's to BTJ and Hunter. Look how good Baker was last year under Coen.
mjb03003
Footballguy
I like the idea of having Stroud/Lawrence tandem to pick matchups or ride the hot hand in 1QB. Both have a lot of new, shiny toys to work with this season and should have some explosive games. Picking the right guy might be a bit of a headache but better to have options than not. Hopefully you're set at QB for a long time.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I get the reasoning, but technically he went from BTJ & Gabe Davis to BTJ & Hunter. Kirk missed most of the year, and BTJ was very solid. Ridley was in TEN.
This one could be a chicken or the egg - look how good Baker was the year prior not under Coen.
Dave Canales was the Bucs OC in 2023. Baker was 4000+ 28/10 on a team without a strong WR3 (Trey Palmer, Rakeem Jarrett?) and their RB room was White, Tucker, & the ghost of Chase Edmonds.
2024 Baker had ~500 more yards passing but had a better WR3 & a better RB than he had in 2023. So how much of his production was Coen being a guru and how much of it was Baker being good at football and getting better weapons around him?
I think TLaw’s ascension narrative is still very much TBD. Certainly possible he takes a dramatic leap this year, but I’m kind of bear-ish, despite adding Hunter & Coen.
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Dez
Footballguy
Tua was his only QB
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
Raging weasel
Footballguy
Not involved
Odunze for 2026 1st and 2026 3rd
Probably top 3 because team getting Odunze is terrible at least on paper
Odunze for 2026 1st and 2026 3rd
Probably top 3 because team getting Odunze is terrible at least on paper
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I'm gonna plant my flag and say that this is a league winning move by team 2. A middling team (assuming the 2.06 is theirs) probably without much at QB. I see Dak coming in and absolutely killing it this season. He's far and away a much better and more immediate boost to team production than anyone you could get at 2.06. Again, assuming team 2 needed help at QB and was pretty solid everywhere else, I think this is a complete shark move.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
Born to Run
Footballguy
Give me those picks,pls.
Shrek
Having a great season
I think your logic is sound. But his other QBs are Purdy and Caleb, his starting RBs are R. Stevenson and Kenneth Walker, and his top 3 WRs are Kupp, M. Harrison Jr, and a toss up between Dell/Alec Pierce. I am team 1. My thought process was that, even if Dak goes off, he has a legitimate injury history now, he's going to be 32 before the season starts, and Team 2’s lineup is not that great, even if I was being generous. While my QB room is not a murderers row, I have enough faith in the other 3 plus my draft that I can use the draft pick for depth. I know Dak's star is pointing up right now. But when he wasn't hurt last year, he had one 300 yard game (out of 8), never threw for more than 2 TDs, was 3-5 when he went out, and was barely a legit starter most weeks. He can be someone else's headache now. I'll report back at the end of the season even if I'm wrong.
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
The trade above is the one that got reversed by FFPC. That partner has since been trying to get Ayomanor and Horton from me and we finally settled on this:
I gave Ayomanor and Horton
I got TeSlaa and Marks
barackdhouse
Footballguy
The day after the initial trade was reversed that same owner moved Kincaid and Restrepo for Shakir straight up. I'd still prefer Kincaid.
