That’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
I love me some Chase Brown, but I’d take Jamo & the 1st here.14 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE (not involved)
Jameson Williams
Rachaad White
Dalton Schultz
2026 1st
for
Chase Brown
Joe Mixon
Cade Otton
2026 2nd
Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
2026 is weak in a 1QB league. Very weak.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
I would guess it is hard to know this right now. I have heard that before and the classes have ended up strong. Lev Bell came out of a "weak" class2026 is weak in a 1QB league. Very weak.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Yeah, I’m not saying I’m psychic. But it’s impossible to know what pick that’s going to be (maybe late since they’re presumably stacking 2 of the too 12 start-up players).I would guess it is hard to know this right now. I have heard that before and the classes have ended up strong. Lev Bell came out of a "weak" class

My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Also the guy who made that trade will make another 10-20 trades during the startup moving up and down and up and down getting to the picks he wants to take his players at.Yeah, I’m not saying I’m psychic. But it’s impossible to know what pick that’s going to be (maybe late since they’re presumably stacking 2 of the too 12 start-up players).I would guess it is hard to know this right now. I have heard that before and the classes have ended up strong. Lev Bell came out of a "weak" class
Part of it is also the drop from 1.02 to 2.06 16 spots back. That feels like a few tiers, and I’m not sure player 55 makes up that ground. The future 1st is nice, or maybe it’s pick 1.12. Which could also be nice.
I dunno - I enjoy picking my 1st round picks. Dropping tiers in early rounds of startups seems like a bad idea, though I know it can be executed well.
This part seems key.That was the 2017 class which was great and we picked mostly well from that rookie class.
2.06 and 8.02 were moved for 3.10 and 4.03My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Then I looked at ADP data and what I think my best options look would look like at 2.6 and 5.7, combined with how I feel about the 2026 class, I’d have to hold onto the 1.2.
But I would be trying real hard to move back, just would prefer to stay in the mid to late round one range unless I got a more significant return.
That can absolutely be a winning strategy.He doesn't make 1 trade and call it a day. Also his goal might be to collect 6-8 future 1st.

I like the 2nd deal more than the 1st. I think. I’m kinda on the fence there, too.2.06 and 8.02 were moved for 3.10 and 4.03My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Then I looked at ADP data and what I think my best options look would look like at 2.6 and 5.7, combined with how I feel about the 2026 class, I’d have to hold onto the 1.2.
But I would be trying real hard to move back, just would prefer to stay in the mid to late round one range unless I got a more significant return.
Right now looking at 1.02 and 8.02..…for 3.10, 4.03, 5.07, and a future 1st
That's a strong second trade and the totality of it's pretty good and I agree it's better then 4 future 1'st.2.06 and 8.02 were moved for 3.10 and 4.03My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Then I looked at ADP data and what I think my best options look would look like at 2.6 and 5.7, combined with how I feel about the 2026 class, I’d have to hold onto the 1.2.
But I would be trying real hard to move back, just would prefer to stay in the mid to late round one range unless I got a more significant return.
Right now looking at 1.02 and 8.02..…for 3.10, 4.03, 5.07, and a future 1st.
That's definitely better than 4 future 1sts
It is…. If the picks hit.That's a strong second trade and the totality of it's pretty good and I agree it's better then 4 future 1'st.2.06 and 8.02 were moved for 3.10 and 4.03My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Then I looked at ADP data and what I think my best options look would look like at 2.6 and 5.7, combined with how I feel about the 2026 class, I’d have to hold onto the 1.2.
But I would be trying real hard to move back, just would prefer to stay in the mid to late round one range unless I got a more significant return.
Right now looking at 1.02 and 8.02..…for 3.10, 4.03, 5.07, and a future 1st.
That's definitely better than 4 future 1sts
A lot can go south with one player as well. It's not like it's uncommon for a high end stud to either get hurt or stop being a studIt is…. If the picks hit.That's a strong second trade and the totality of it's pretty good and I agree it's better then 4 future 1'st.2.06 and 8.02 were moved for 3.10 and 4.03My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Then I looked at ADP data and what I think my best options look would look like at 2.6 and 5.7, combined with how I feel about the 2026 class, I’d have to hold onto the 1.2.
But I would be trying real hard to move back, just would prefer to stay in the mid to late round one range unless I got a more significant return.
Right now looking at 1.02 and 8.02..…for 3.10, 4.03, 5.07, and a future 1st.
That's definitely better than 4 future 1sts
Established players > rookies is another inherent value of start-up picks.
So on paper, yeah - the value is solid. In practice a lot can go south.
Would agree. If this had been a back-half pick in the 1st it'd be a lot better. 1.02 should be drawing a lot more or at least earlier picks than a 5th.My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Then I looked at ADP data and what I think my best options look would look like at 2.6 and 5.7, combined with how I feel about the 2026 class, I’d have to hold onto the 1.2.
But I would be trying real hard to move back, just would prefer to stay in the mid to late round one range unless I got a more significant return.
Agree here too on the 2nd trade, Looking at startup ADP I'd much rather have two of: Breece, Rice, LaPorta Tet, Burrow, Hurts, or Judkins than one of Nico, London, McConkey, Achane, Hampton (as much as we all like these guys on their own) and the 86th pick which is going to be like 2nd round rookies (Higgins, Harris) or aging vets with diminishing value (Pollard, Pacheco, Conner, Njoku). There are some gems IMO around that 86th pick ADP but no guarantee someone doesn't snag them before you.That's a strong second trade and the totality of it's pretty good and I agree it's better then 4 future 1'st.2.06 and 8.02 were moved for 3.10 and 4.03My first thought was that I’d be interested in moving down if I was sitting at 1.2 and was presented this offer.Yes.Did you catch the part this is a startup draftThat’s really bad return, IMO.Startup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
They not only gave up 1.02, but they moved all the way out of the 1st for an extra second and a 2026 rookie. Ew. Just… no.
I don’t love giving up the 1.02 for 2.06, 5.07 & a crapshoot rookie in 2026.
I did think about it a bit more and the 5th (55th overall) & extra second make it not totally egregious. I may have been a bit hyperbolic.
But 2.06 is a long drop from 1.02. Maybe I’m missing something.
Then I looked at ADP data and what I think my best options look would look like at 2.6 and 5.7, combined with how I feel about the 2026 class, I’d have to hold onto the 1.2.
But I would be trying real hard to move back, just would prefer to stay in the mid to late round one range unless I got a more significant return.
Right now looking at 1.02 and 8.02..…for 3.10, 4.03, 5.07, and a future 1st.
That's definitely better than 4 future 1sts
Smash in 1 QB leagues. Especially since you have Lamar. Huge upgrade from Smith to BTJ. Huge.FFPC standard, 1 QB/TEP.
Gave:Hurts, Devonta Smith and Strange
Got: Brian Thomas Jr.
Rationale behind it for me is I have Lamar at QB, my team is extremely deep but felt like it lacked enough high end studs. Was making my team what I view as a better regular season then playoff team. In a redraft BTJ or McBride would be my highest drafted players.
Thanks and you summed it well.Smash in 1 QB leagues. Especially since you have Lamar. Huge upgrade from Smith to BTJ. Huge.FFPC standard, 1 QB/TEP.
Gave:Hurts, Devonta Smith and Strange
Got: Brian Thomas Jr.
Rationale behind it for me is I have Lamar at QB, my team is extremely deep but felt like it lacked enough high end studs. Was making my team what I view as a better regular season then playoff team. In a redraft BTJ or McBride would be my highest drafted players.
Bargain, even. I get Hurts can be a stud in 1 QB due to RuTd, but you already have that, so the upgrade at WR is 100% worth it.
You get no points for Hurts on your bench, and lots from BTJ in your lineup - at least, presumably more than Smith (who’s a bit inconsistent)
Curious about feedback on this deal.
12 team, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE with 1 flex (not QB) starting lineup, currently no PPR but switching to 0.5 PPR in 2026
Gave:
Kyren Williams
Tucker Kraft
Tyreek Hill
2026 3rd round pick
Received:
Trey McBride
Kyle Williams
2026 2nd round pick
Overpay for McBride?
Seems like an easy deal to make. Couple 5th round startup picks for a top 10 guy who is like 22.FFPC standard, 1 QB/TEP.
Gave:Hurts, Devonta Smith and Strange
Got: Brian Thomas Jr.
Rationale behind it for me is I have Lamar at QB, my team is extremely deep but felt like it lacked enough high end studs. Was making my team what I view as a better regular season then playoff team. In a redraft BTJ or McBride would be my highest drafted players.
Curious about feedback on this deal.
12 team, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE with 1 flex (not QB) starting lineup, currently no PPR but switching to 0.5 PPR in 2026
Gave:
Kyren Williams
Tucker Kraft
Tyreek Hill
2026 3rd round pick
Received:
Trey McBride
Kyle Williams
2026 2nd round pick
Overpay for McBride?
FFPC standard, 1 QB/TEP.
Gave:Hurts, Devonta Smith and Strange
Got: Brian Thomas Jr.
Rationale behind it for me is I have Lamar at QB, my team is extremely deep but felt like it lacked enough high end studs. Was making my team what I view as a better regular season then playoff team. In a redraft BTJ or McBride would be my highest drafted players.
Seems easy for a projected late one in a 16 team league. In one of my FFPC leagues someone gave 1.6 AND Strange for Metcalf.16 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE
I traded away my 2026 1st
for
DK Metcalf
Not feeling great about it to be honest. No real winner in this trade as my pick should be late next year but then again you never know what can happen but I won the ship last year.
While I’ve about given up hope that DK will ever be a top 5 WR, I do think he can be a very solid FF WR2.16 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE
I traded away my 2026 1st
for
DK Metcalf
Not feeling great about it to be honest. No real winner in this trade as my pick should be late next year but then again you never know what can happen but I won the ship last year.
Not sure I’d give up on Rome that early into his career, but I’m also not sure I’d pay that much for him, so imma lean picks on this one.FFPC single QB
Rome Odunze
For
2026 1st (prolly mid-late) and 2026 2nd (probably early)
Considering only 1qB league I’ll take the Odunze side given that I think the 2026 draft is weak at RB, WR, and TE. The fantasy owner that’s always obtaining next year’s picks will most likely think the next set of shiny toys will look better than the old set. Take advantage of these types whenever possible.Not sure I’d give up on Rome that early into his career, but I’m also not sure I’d pay that much for him, so imma lean picks on this one.FFPC single QB
Rome Odunze
For
2026 1st (prolly mid-late) and 2026 2nd (probably early)
no thank youStartup draft trade (draft hasnt started yet). 12 team, FFPC single QB.
Pick 1.02
For
2.06, 5.07, and a future 1st
go 4 itA trade Ive been offered and considering:
Give Garrett Wilson
Get 2027 1st (mid) and Jayden Higgins
I probably have the ~4th best team in this league and the top two teams are pretty stacked. I'm considering blowing up my team (bucky, rj harvey, jsn, London, worthy) to stack 2026 and especially 2027 picks. Curious what your guys' thoughts are.
I prefer the Odunze side, but I can see where the draft capital would be enticing.FFPC single QB
Rome Odunze
For
2026 1st (prolly mid-late) and 2026 2nd (probably early)
OdunzeFFPC single QB
Rome Odunze
For
2026 1st (prolly mid-late) and 2026 2nd (probably early)
Seems like a classic win now vs long-term build trade. Scoring format favors Kyren side heavily for year 1. Once the 0.5PPR switch happens it evens out a little more. If Kyren hangs onto the job for 3 more years (not a given) I'd take his side even with the 0.5PPR being added. But if you're in it for a long-term build though McBride likely means you don't have to worry about TE for a long while so that has a lot of appeal.Curious about feedback on this deal.
12 team, QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE with 1 flex (not QB) starting lineup, currently no PPR but switching to 0.5 PPR in 2026
Gave:
Kyren Williams
Tucker Kraft
Tyreek Hill
2026 3rd round pick
Received:
Trey McBride
Kyle Williams
2026 2nd round pick
Overpay for McBride?
The only thing clear to me is I prefer the value on the Rome side with confidence the picks are probably late.Not sure I’d give up on Rome that early into his career, but I’m also not sure I’d pay that much for him, so imma lean picks on this one.FFPC single QB
Rome Odunze
For
2026 1st (prolly mid-late) and 2026 2nd (probably early)
OdunzeFFPC single QB
Rome Odunze
For
2026 1st (prolly mid-late) and 2026 2nd (probably early)
The future 1st traded was not from that team. The future 2nd IS from that team, and that team has drafted all youth this far and collected a few extra future 1sts.The only thing clear to me is I prefer the value on the Rome side with confidence the picks are probably late.Not sure I’d give up on Rome that early into his career, but I’m also not sure I’d pay that much for him, so imma lean picks on this one.FFPC single QB
Rome Odunze
For
2026 1st (prolly mid-late) and 2026 2nd (probably early)
But I also hate and almost never give up my first pick, especially top two, unless I'm overwhelmed or the trade is exactly what my team needs. So all in all not sure, but again am clear that Rome's value and ultimate performance will exceed projected late picks in a soft looking class.