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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (11 Viewers)

I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.
I am that guy. I'm the commissioner of our league, and I would say 90% of my FF time is spent being commish, and 10% as owner. I really do not want to put in the time to haggle at fantasy football.
If it’s 90/10 in favor of doing commissioner stuff you’re doing it all wrong. It should be the other way around. I commish several leagues and I’ve got it down where the commissioner duties don’t take up that much time.
Commish duties for me in my 5 huddle leagues takes up so much time you wouldn't believe it. These leagues are run as close to NFL as can get and we only take a few months off a year.
My only break are after week 17 ends until the start of our franchise player bidding/RFA which starts late March.
The amount of time is unbelievable I spent 75% of my year on these 5 leagues and they pay a whopping $400 for 1st.
Meanwhile I spent 25% of my time on my other 60 managed leagues.
 
I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.
I’ve said it 1000x on this very forum: I’d rather risk overpaying to get a deal done than come in low and get beat to the punch by another owner or spend enough time haggling that they change their mind.

I like the deal for you a lot, calcs be damned. Trades aren’t made on paper, they’re made between owners. Occasional after seeing one of my offers snapped up I’ll have regret knowing I coulda offered less or asked for more in return. But if I offered it, it means that’s where I thought the value was, and it got it done. So there ya go.
DK could easily outscore Rice next year
 
DK could easily outscore Rice next year
He could.

Or he could be in a quagmire of an offense led by a struggling ARod.

Or he could have Rudolph chucking the rock.

Any number of outcomes. I’m much higher on Rice short & long term that I am DKM, but absolutely possible this deal blows up on you.

But you made the deal. Hope for the best. Everything else is spilled milk.
 
Moved up to 1.03 from 1.05 giving up the 2.05 to snag Henderson to pair with Jeanty.

Now have a formidable 1/2 punch at RB for foreseeable cutie to pair with JSN, Rice, MHJ and Odunze. Bowers at TE and Burrow at QB. The future is bright
Traded up again, Sent 2.01 and 2.08 for 1.09 and grabbed RJ Harvey.

Qb- burrow, JJ McCarthey and Anthony Rich
RB - Jeanty, Henderson, Harvey Benson
WR - JSN, MHJ, Odunde, Rice
TE- Bowers

The league F’d up
 
12 team SF PPR TEP IDP

Team A: TLaw, Harvey, London, Kittle
Team B: Kyler, Bijan, Allgeier, Jeudy
That’s quite a trade. SF, too.

At a glance I’m on Kyler+Bijan+Allgeier+Jeudy.

Kyler > TLaw (for FF especially. He’s gonna run more a year removed from injury)
Bijan >> Harvey
London > Jeudy
Kittle’s 31, 32 in October. But for short term > Allgeier

Of the elite assets in this deal; Bijan+Murray > London
 
I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.
I’ve said it 1000x on this very forum: I’d rather risk overpaying to get a deal done than come in low and get beat to the punch by another owner or spend enough time haggling that they change their mind.

I like the deal for you a lot, calcs be damned. Trades aren’t made on paper, they’re made between owners. Occasional after seeing one of my offers snapped up I’ll have regret knowing I coulda offered less or asked for more in return. But if I offered it, it means that’s where I thought the value was, and it got it done. So there ya go.
DK could easily outscore Rice next year
Sure but you can say that about so many players.

Right now in FFPC DK goes 17 picks after Rice, different tier of players. We could jump back 17+ players after DK and and get into a group of WR's we could say could easily outscore DK or even Rice. But how we value these players has to have some line at some point and you obviously are wiling to give Metcalf plus to give Rice. Which I think is a good to great trade.
 
12 team SF PPR TEP IDP

Team A: TLaw, Harvey, London, Kittle
Team B: Kyler, Bijan, Allgeier, Jeudy
Team B but it's close
Yeah, I’ll agree with that. It’s definitely close. Potential for either side to crap out.

Bijan is pretty close to London in dynasty value. These QBs could both go in a number of directions. Kittle’s old & Allgeier is a handcuff++

But yeah, B has a little more juice.
 
I should have probably led with DK and Darnold without the pick but when someone posts that a player is on the block to entire league you just have no idea what offers are being made and some people will just take the best one and not counter at all. Had that happen plenty.
I’ve said it 1000x on this very forum: I’d rather risk overpaying to get a deal done than come in low and get beat to the punch by another owner or spend enough time haggling that they change their mind.

I like the deal for you a lot, calcs be damned. Trades aren’t made on paper, they’re made between owners. Occasional after seeing one of my offers snapped up I’ll have regret knowing I coulda offered less or asked for more in return. But if I offered it, it means that’s where I thought the value was, and it got it done. So there ya go.
DK could easily outscore Rice next year
Sure but you can say that about so many players.

Right now in FFPC DK goes 17 picks after Rice, different tier of players. We could jump back 17+ players after DK and and get into a group of WR's we could say could easily outscore DK or even Rice. But how we value these players has to have some line at some point and you obviously are wiling to give Metcalf plus to give Rice. Which I think is a good to great trade.
I’m all for aggregating assets to get higher tier players.

Sometimes you have to take risks to get those players. Lord knows I’ve taken moon shots and missed, but I’ve hit on more than I’ve missed in those types of deals.

I just have to trust the process. DK to Rice at the cost of Darnold & a pick in 1 QB? Sign me up!

I gave Pittman+Geno in SF which I think is pretty similar value because of the format. There’s also a non-zero chance Pittman outscores rice, but I wouldn’t bet on that. I’d much rather bet on Rice manifesting into an elite WR.

Maybe we’ll hit. No use losing sleep over something that hasn’t happened yet. IMO the most likely outcome is we have a top 12 WR for the next 6-7 years (and DKM/Pittman are some shade of what they’ve been for a while). :shrug:
 
12 team Best ball - start 9
Have 1.01 and needed RB's to be competitive. Have been trying to move make move for Jav. Williams, or Pacheco type and everyone wanted way more then I was willing to pay. So I took a different route and put 2.02 and 2.09 for 1.07, got quick reply wanting 4.01 on top. done deal! Puts me on range for another young RB or also could use a TE. Glad I decided to flip my thinking.
 
12 team Best ball - start 9
Have 1.01 and needed RB's to be competitive. Have been trying to move make move for Jav. Williams, or Pacheco type and everyone wanted way more then I was willing to pay. So I took a different route and put 2.02 and 2.09 for 1.07, got quick reply wanting 4.01 on top. done deal! Puts me on range for another young RB or also could use a TE. Glad I decided to flip my thinking.
Like that move to get Judkins or Harvey.

What did people want for Javonte or Pacheco? Both of them feel like they have almost no value at all. A contender isn't starting them and a rebuilding team should take a decent offer for them.
 
12 team Best ball - start 9
Have 1.01 and needed RB's to be competitive. Have been trying to move make move for Jav. Williams, or Pacheco type and everyone wanted way more then I was willing to pay. So I took a different route and put 2.02 and 2.09 for 1.07, got quick reply wanting 4.01 on top. done deal! Puts me on range for another young RB or also could use a TE. Glad I decided to flip my thinking.
Like that move to get Judkins or Harvey.

What did people want for Javonte or Pacheco? Both of them feel like they have almost no value at all. A contender isn't starting them and a rebuilding team should take a decent offer for them.
Pacheco guy had Richardson and Hurts at QB. I offered Danny Dimes so he could lock up Indy QB and a fourth. Willing to work a deal, but he wanted Penix instead of Jones. I offered 2.08 he wanted 2.01. We were way off on value. Offered similar for Williams, and the guy wanted way more. I am that not disparate with 90+ days before the season starts.
Both teams are(at least should be) rebuilding and figured we would move towards some middle ground. With the draft coming up, I figured lets take a shot at moving up to get a RB.
 
14 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE (not involved)

2026 1st round pick
for
JJ McCarthy
Fant

Seems expensive to me
1st for JJ in single QB is diabolical.

Fant is a roster clogger.
I agree. You don’t do that in a 1qB league. I needed another QB in a 14 team league where I only have Purdy and gave up Charbs for Penix and the 3.2 and took Milroe with the pick. Picks are devalued in a DEVY when the rookie draft is separate from the DEVY draft. Some might argue Charbs is the same as a 1st, but obviously not me, especially since I don’t have Walker. I can see Walker gone in 2026 however and that could lay down a rosey outlook for Charbs in 2026. Back to McCarthy. Giving up a 1st for him n a 1qB league seems like too much to me. However, being a 14 team league instead of a 12 teamer does change the dynamics some.
 
Did a couple trades to get younger in 12 TEAM SF PPR TEP -

Mixon and 3.06 for 1.05 (T Henderdson)

Sutton for 2.10 ( K Williams) and 5.02

Loved the first one, thought long and hard over the second one.
 
14 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE (not involved)

2026 1st round pick
for
JJ McCarthy
Fant

Seems expensive to me

It is a steal in SF and it becomes a felony offense when you factor in it's a 14-team-league which makes the value of QBs that much more important...add-on alert...not that Fant matters but under no condition should the Owner getting McCarthy be getting anything else in this deal...how does that even happen?
…..but it isn’t SF, that’s my point.
 
What percentage of trades are initiated by you. For me it’s got to be over 99%. I’m not complaining, just thinking out loud, because someone has to put some thought into it.
Same. I also make it a point to only put players on the trade block that I’m willing to sell below market so that the league knows it’s just not a fishing expedition when I do it.
 
14 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE (not involved)

2026 1st round pick
for
JJ McCarthy
Fant

Seems expensive to me

It is a steal in SF and it becomes a felony offense when you factor in it's a 14-team-league which makes the value of QBs that much more important...add-on alert...not that Fant matters but under no condition should the Owner getting McCarthy be getting anything else in this deal...how does that even happen?
…..but it isn’t SF, that’s my point.

Ahhh...read it wrong (so will delete my post)...it would depend on the rosters then...because it is a 14-team league I would value the QB a little more because you can definitely get put into a corner with QB depth which is a spot you don't want to be in.
 
14 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE (not involved)

2026 1st round pick
for
JJ McCarthy
Fant

Seems expensive to me

It is a steal in SF and it becomes a felony offense when you factor in it's a 14-team-league which makes the value of QBs that much more important...add-on alert...not that Fant matters but under no condition should the Owner getting McCarthy be getting anything else in this deal...how does that even happen?
…..but it isn’t SF, that’s my point.

Ahhh...read it wrong (so will delete my post)...it would depend on the rosters then...because it is a 14-team league I would value the QB a little more because you can definitely get put into a corner with QB depth which is a spot you don't want to be in.
I currently only have 1 starting QB in all 5 of my huddle leagues and they are 16, 16, 14, 14 and 12 teams.

16-Purdy
16-Mahomes/Minshew
14-Josh Allen
14-Lamar
12-Mahomes/MInshew

I backed up Mahomes with Minshew twice cheap (one I got him for $1 in trade off the other owner and the other I lucked into him as he was already on my team from last year)

I had Darnold on 3 of the teams (Purdy, Mahomes 16, Lamar) teams but Darnold was a RFA and in 2 of the leagues the bidding went crazy for him so I let him go for nothing.
In the 3rd league I traded him in the middle of the bidding to 1 of the bidders so he went for less than half the price as the other leagues.

It's not a great spot but QB's emerge each year from injuries on the waiver wire but then you have to battle for them. Last year my Josh Allen team had no QB week 14 but I was fine I had already clinched a playoff spot so didn't matter.

People over value the QB's in my 16 and 14 teams which is why I am in this situation.
 
What percentage of trades are initiated by you. For me it’s got to be over 99%. I’m not complaining, just thinking out loud, because someone has to put some thought into it.
75-80% I would say
Yeah, probably close to 90% for me. My leagues are a little stiff like that.
Same. My primary and only league last year had 38 trades throughout the year. I was involved in 33 of them. I initiated prolly 33 of them. The draft and trying to hammer out a deal is more enjoyable to me than the actual season itself.
 
What percentage of trades are initiated by you. For me it’s got to be over 99%. I’m not complaining, just thinking out loud, because someone has to put some thought into it.
As close to 100% without actually being 100%. This is true across all sports. The only time I get offers initiated by someone else are trade deadline deals where a contender ships me an injured player for a healthy player.

I took over an orphan NBA team and made 28 trades in the first year. I'll always remember how happy I was to get 2 top 125 injured guys and a pick for my top 100-ish healthy guy with a good playoff schedule in my inbox. I'll chase that dragon for years.
 
What percentage of trades are initiated by you. For me it’s got to be over 99%. I’m not complaining, just thinking out loud, because someone has to put some thought into it.
75-80% I would say
Yeah, probably close to 90% for me. My leagues are a little stiff like that.
Same. My primary and only league last year had 38 trades throughout the year. I was involved in 33 of them. I initiated prolly 33 of them. The draft and trying to hammer out a deal is more enjoyable to me than the actual season itself.
I make the initial offers on most trades, just don't know the percentage, but I do but I get more trade offers then I send out.
 
Did a couple trades to get younger in 12 TEAM SF PPR TEP -

Mixon and 3.06 for 1.05 (T Henderdson)

Sutton for 2.10 ( K Williams) and 5.02

Loved the first one, thought long and hard over the second one.
Wow, robbed the guy on the first trade. Mixon's not worth even a late 1st in that format in most leagues.

2nd one seems fine, Sutton is getting up there and no one has ever been interested in trading for him for years unless it's for peanuts. Hard guy to trade but Williams seems like a solid get and that would be like a mid-2nd in a non-SF/TEP league.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP

I gave up
2.01
3.09
for
1.10

Giving up 3.09 isn't nothing in an IDP league so it wasn't cheap
 
12 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP

I gave up
2.01
3.09
for
1.10

Giving up 3.09 isn't nothing in an IDP league so it wasn't cheap
What was gained by the 3 pick difference? Who was taken at 1.10 and 2.01? Perhaps list players from 1.10 to 2.03 just to give some more context to the draft.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP

I gave up
2.01
3.09
for
1.10

Giving up 3.09 isn't nothing in an IDP league so it wasn't cheap
Fair. And yeah, 3.09 is right there with solid IDP options. In my 2x 16 teamers thats been Nick Martin, or Jalon Walker. Danny Stutsman & Shemar Stewart in that general vicinity.

I still like the trade for you. The value’s right.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP

I gave up
2.01
3.09
for
1.10

Giving up 3.09 isn't nothing in an IDP league so it wasn't cheap
What was gained by the 3 pick difference? Who was taken at 1.10 and 2.01? Perhaps list players from 1.10 to 2.03 just to give some more context to the draft.
I don't know yet the draft beings in July.
Hard to say if the trade was worth it. We’re only talking a 3 pick bump.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP

I gave up
2.01
3.09
for
1.10

Giving up 3.09 isn't nothing in an IDP league so it wasn't cheap
What was gained by the 3 pick difference? Who was taken at 1.10 and 2.01? Perhaps list players from 1.10 to 2.03 just to give some more context to the draft.
I don't know yet the draft beings in July.
Hard to say if the trade was worth it. We’re only talking a 3 pick bump.
Tiers are the name of the game. Do you want to be inside the tier you want to be in or outside and hope ? Hope not a plan.
 
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12 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP

I gave up
2.01
3.09
for
1.10

Giving up 3.09 isn't nothing in an IDP league so it wasn't cheap
What was gained by the 3 pick difference? Who was taken at 1.10 and 2.01? Perhaps list players from 1.10 to 2.03 just to give some more context to the draft.
I don't know yet the draft beings in July.
Hard to say if the trade was worth it. We’re only talking a 3 pick bump.
Tiers are the name of the game. Do you want to be inside the tier you want to be in or outside and pray ? Luck is not a plan.
That’s how I’m evaluating this one. Better % chance of a good player falling to 10 than 13th overall.

And who knows - might be reasonable to deal up go 1.07-1.08

It all depends how deep your tiers are. In TEP, pick 10 is a pretty solid bet you’re going to get either a good RB or a tier 2 TE.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR 1.5 TE IDP

I gave up
2.01
3.09
for
1.10

Giving up 3.09 isn't nothing in an IDP league so it wasn't cheap
What was gained by the 3 pick difference? Who was taken at 1.10 and 2.01? Perhaps list players from 1.10 to 2.03 just to give some more context to the draft.
I don't know yet the draft beings in July.
Hard to say if the trade was worth it. We’re only talking a 3 pick bump.
Tiers are the name of the game. Do you want to be inside the tier you want to be in or outside and pray ? Luck is not a plan.
That’s how I’m evaluating this one. Better % chance of a good player falling to 10 than 13th overall.

And who knows - might be reasonable to deal up go 1.07-1.08

It all depends how deep your tiers are. In TEP, pick 10 is a pretty solid bet you’re going to get either a good RB or a tier 2 TE.
I messed up my saying "Hope is not a plan" is what I meant to say

I have very specific tiers that I want and for me the difference between 10 and 13 is gigantic. Maybe 1 of them falls to 13 but I am not counting on it and rather trade now then try during the draft when it is much harder and more expensive usually to try and trade up especially if there is 1 guy left in a tier and everyone wants that guy.
 
12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...
 
12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...
Yeah. I know rankings wise its a small bump, but I thought it was worth it. In my league Hurts had 22 PPG and Herbert had 16. And my team is in a championship window, so I'll take the tush push points while I can.

QB- Hurts, Baker, TLaw
RB- Barkley, Jacobs, Harvey (now Estime), Hunt, JCM
WR- JJ, Lamb, Nabers, London, Hunter, Evans
TE- Bowers, McBride, Kittle

Also very strong at IDP with Simmons, Garrett, Parsons, Bosa, Roquan, Zaire, Foye, Baker, and others. So I think its worth pushing the chips in.

My thoughts at least- definitely a luxury trade but wanted to add the hammer at QB
 

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