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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (22 Viewers)

12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...
Yeah. I know rankings wise its a small bump, but I thought it was worth it. In my league Hurts had 22 PPG and Herbert had 16. And my team is in a championship window, so I'll take the tush push points while I can.

QB- Hurts, Baker, TLaw
RB- Barkley, Jacobs, Harvey (now Estime), Hunt, JCM
WR- JJ, Lamb, Nabers, London, Hunter, Evans
TE- Bowers, McBride, Kittle

Also very strong at IDP with Simmons, Garrett, Parsons, Bosa, Roquan, Zaire, Foye, Baker, and others. So I think its worth pushing the chips in.

My thoughts at least- definitely a luxury trade but wanted to add the hammer at QB
Sometimes I think fantasy players throw away draft picks like taking out the garbage every Monday morning. I’m not saying that is the case here, but just something I noticed from the 20,000 foot level.
 
12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...
Yeah. I know rankings wise its a small bump, but I thought it was worth it. In my league Hurts had 22 PPG and Herbert had 16. And my team is in a championship window, so I'll take the tush push points while I can.

QB- Hurts, Baker, TLaw
RB- Barkley, Jacobs, Harvey (now Estime), Hunt, JCM
WR- JJ, Lamb, Nabers, London, Hunter, Evans
TE- Bowers, McBride, Kittle

Also very strong at IDP with Simmons, Garrett, Parsons, Bosa, Roquan, Zaire, Foye, Baker, and others. So I think its worth pushing the chips in.

My thoughts at least- definitely a luxury trade but wanted to add the hammer at QB
Sometimes I think fantasy players throw away draft picks like taking out the garbage every Monday morning. I’m not saying that is the case here, but just something I noticed from the 20,000 foot level.
Agree. I’m also in the camp of overpaying when you’re in a championship window. So I probably fall into that camp- I pay the “get a deal done” tax often haha
 
12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...
Yeah. I know rankings wise its a small bump, but I thought it was worth it. In my league Hurts had 22 PPG and Herbert had 16. And my team is in a championship window, so I'll take the tush push points while I can.

QB- Hurts, Baker, TLaw
RB- Barkley, Jacobs, Harvey (now Estime), Hunt, JCM
WR- JJ, Lamb, Nabers, London, Hunter, Evans
TE- Bowers, McBride, Kittle

Also very strong at IDP with Simmons, Garrett, Parsons, Bosa, Roquan, Zaire, Foye, Baker, and others. So I think its worth pushing the chips in.

My thoughts at least- definitely a luxury trade but wanted to add the hammer at QB
Sometimes I think fantasy players throw away draft picks like taking out the garbage every Monday morning. I’m not saying that is the case here, but just something I noticed from the 20,000 foot level.
Agree. I’m also in the camp of overpaying when you’re in a championship window. So I probably fall into that camp- I pay the “get a deal done” tax often haha
That sure is a Win Now team. Nicely done.

ETA: when I say “win now” I mean “win the next 3 years in a row if Barkley/Jacobs hold up”.
 
12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...
Yeah. I know rankings wise its a small bump, but I thought it was worth it. In my league Hurts had 22 PPG and Herbert had 16. And my team is in a championship window, so I'll take the tush push points while I can.

QB- Hurts, Baker, TLaw
RB- Barkley, Jacobs, Harvey (now Estime), Hunt, JCM
WR- JJ, Lamb, Nabers, London, Hunter, Evans
TE- Bowers, McBride, Kittle

Also very strong at IDP with Simmons, Garrett, Parsons, Bosa, Roquan, Zaire, Foye, Baker, and others. So I think its worth pushing the chips in.

My thoughts at least- definitely a luxury trade but wanted to add the hammer at QB
Sometimes I think fantasy players throw away draft picks like taking out the garbage every Monday morning. I’m not saying that is the case here, but just something I noticed from the 20,000 foot level.
Agree. I’m also in the camp of overpaying when you’re in a championship window. So I probably fall into that camp- I pay the “get a deal done” tax often haha
That sure is a Win Now team. Nicely done.

ETA: when I say “win now” I mean “win the next 3 years in a row if Barkley/Jacobs hold up”.
Trade Evans for picks.....
 
12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...
Yeah. I know rankings wise its a small bump, but I thought it was worth it. In my league Hurts had 22 PPG and Herbert had 16. And my team is in a championship window, so I'll take the tush push points while I can.

QB- Hurts, Baker, TLaw
RB- Barkley, Jacobs, Harvey (now Estime), Hunt, JCM
WR- JJ, Lamb, Nabers, London, Hunter, Evans
TE- Bowers, McBride, Kittle

Also very strong at IDP with Simmons, Garrett, Parsons, Bosa, Roquan, Zaire, Foye, Baker, and others. So I think its worth pushing the chips in.

My thoughts at least- definitely a luxury trade but wanted to add the hammer at QB
Sometimes I think fantasy players throw away draft picks like taking out the garbage every Monday morning. I’m not saying that is the case here, but just something I noticed from the 20,000 foot level.
Agree. I’m also in the camp of overpaying when you’re in a championship window. So I probably fall into that camp- I pay the “get a deal done” tax often haha
That sure is a Win Now team. Nicely done.

ETA: when I say “win now” I mean “win the next 3 years in a row if Barkley/Jacobs hold up”.
Trade Evans for picks.....
I’ve been trying. Think I’ll have more luck if I wait til in season
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
I mean if you don’t love Worthy then maybe? 2.5 is a crapshoot pick, let’s be honest. Not so valuable.
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
Is this SF?

If so it makes more sense.

And if I squint hard I can see narrative of “a win-now team going all-in by acquiring a still explosive Tyreek Hill, RB1 Mixon, and Geno for QB2 to win a ship”.

If 1 QB it’s not nearly as even of a trade, but could still be justified as an all-in move.

Hill probably worth a 1st, worthy worth Mixon+Geno+2nd?

Not a move I’d make, but I’ve seen worse.
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
Is this SF?

If so it makes more sense.

And if I squint hard I can see narrative of “a win-now team going all-in by acquiring a still explosive Tyreek Hill, RB1 Mixon, and Geno for QB2 to win a ship”.

If 1 QB it’s not nearly as even of a trade, but could still be justified as an all-in move.

Hill probably worth a 1st, worthy worth Mixon+Geno+2nd?

Not a move I’d make, but I’ve seen worse.
not a SF
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
Is this SF?

If so it makes more sense.

And if I squint hard I can see narrative of “a win-now team going all-in by acquiring a still explosive Tyreek Hill, RB1 Mixon, and Geno for QB2 to win a ship”.

If 1 QB it’s not nearly as even of a trade, but could still be justified as an all-in move.

Hill probably worth a 1st, worthy worth Mixon+Geno+2nd?

Not a move I’d make, but I’ve seen worse.
not a SF
Yeah, it’s not a great trade - I have Mixon in a 12 team SF & trust him so much that I traded back into the late 3rd to grab a 25 y/o rookie to back him up.

But even in 1 QB I think it’s justifiable. It’s probably not smart, and it’s definitely not a great long-term play, but justifiable.

All 3 of those dudes will likely die on his roster. But as @menobrown suggests, maybe they’re not that high on Worthy.

Personally I would much rather have Worthy & the picks.
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
Is this SF?

If so it makes more sense.

And if I squint hard I can see narrative of “a win-now team going all-in by acquiring a still explosive Tyreek Hill, RB1 Mixon, and Geno for QB2 to win a ship”.

If 1 QB it’s not nearly as even of a trade, but could still be justified as an all-in move.

Hill probably worth a 1st, worthy worth Mixon+Geno+2nd?

Not a move I’d make, but I’ve seen worse.
not a SF
Yeah, it’s not a great trade - I have Mixon in a 12 team SF & trust him so much that I traded back into the late 3rd to grab a 25 y/o rookie to back him up.

But even in 1 QB I think it’s justifiable. It’s probably not smart, and it’s definitely not a great long-term play, but justifiable.

All 3 of those dudes will likely die on his roster. But as @menobrown suggests, maybe they’re not that high on Worthy.

Personally I would much rather have Worthy & the picks.
Me too and they are not in the same stratosphere.
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
Is this SF?

If so it makes more sense.

And if I squint hard I can see narrative of “a win-now team going all-in by acquiring a still explosive Tyreek Hill, RB1 Mixon, and Geno for QB2 to win a ship”.

If 1 QB it’s not nearly as even of a trade, but could still be justified as an all-in move.

Hill probably worth a 1st, worthy worth Mixon+Geno+2nd?

Not a move I’d make, but I’ve seen worse.
not a SF
Yeah, it’s not a great trade - I have Mixon in a 12 team SF & trust him so much that I traded back into the late 3rd to grab a 25 y/o rookie to back him up.

But even in 1 QB I think it’s justifiable. It’s probably not smart, and it’s definitely not a great long-term play, but justifiable.

All 3 of those dudes will likely die on his roster. But as @menobrown suggests, maybe they’re not that high on Worthy.

Personally I would much rather have Worthy & the picks.
Me too and they are not in the same stratosphere.
Probably correct, but maybe this person doesn’t value Worthy that highly, and/or thinks the 1st will be late, and/or sees Tyreek as a 2-3 year upgrade with Mixon & Geno as balancing pieces.

I’m not saying these are all good/correct thought processes, but I can see why someone would make that deal for any/all of those reasons.
 
Can someone make sense of this dynasty trade that just happened in one of my leagues? :wall:

Team A gets: Worthy, 1.5, 2.5
Team B gets: Tyreek Hill, Mixon, Geno Smith

Redraft league, sure maybe I could get that...but dynasty, trading away a great young WR and valuable picks for 3 declining assets all way past their prime....smh
Yeah, that's not even close.
 
10 team SF not involved, 2027 1st for Waddle.

Don't get this one. Team giving up Waddle is stacked at WR (has both Chase and Lamb as well as other clear better than WR3 options) so banking the pick is fine. Team getting Waddle is in no real position to contend now, and I'm not sure you can bank on Waddle being relevant enough when the pick you gave up becomes active that it is worth sending it, but hey ho
 
12 team SF PPR IDP TEP. Strong contender.

Gave: Herbert, JJames, 27 1st, 26 3rd
Got: Hurts, Estime (have Harvey)
Is a smallish bump at QB in SF worth a 1st and a 3rd? At the very best scenario James and Estime cancel each other even though I prefer James.
Not to me .. but I can see the alure of moving from Hurts to Herbert on a TD alone value.
My 12 Team PPR TE+ --> Hurts 27 pt/game vs Herbert 22.4 pts per game ... is that worth a 1st?
Not to me, but again, I can see the alure.
All this changes if the Tush Push gets banned ...

5 ppg is a ton in FF and easily worth a 1st.

The difference in ppg between hurts and herbert is the same as the difference in PPG between Justin Jefferson and Devonta Smith, and I'm sure people would pay a 1st to upgrade from Smith to Jefferson.

Of course if someone believes that gap will close that's a different story, but in the question of is 5ppg worth a 1st the answer is a resounding yes.
 
12 team ppr, 1 QB

Barkley/DK

For

Ladd/26 1st (mid to late)
Hmm. Initial thought was the Barkley side. But upon further reflection, I’m not sure. Barkley is 28, and Ladd is 23. And I wouldn’t pay a first for DK, so there’s more value on that side to me. I think I’d take the Ladd side.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
 
Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
If that were the case I wouldn’t have dealt him + Geno for Rashee Rice in a 16-team league.

But he’s either getting the rock from Danny Dimes or ARich.

I like the talent, but at 27, about to turn 28, in a run-first offense, with question marks at QB, he’s a bit hard to project & rely on in dynasty.

But he is a very talented dude. And he played through a broken back, so tough as nails. He shouldn’t be dropped to waivers, and he should have been claimed instantly. He also should have been picked in the 1st round if that draft.

Crazy. I don’t think he’s actually fallen that far - that’s just a weird 1-off anecdote.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrew’s and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
Same. I got Pittman at 4.4 in a rookie draft.
He was dropped and then fell to the 4th round?
Yes and yes. Almost took him in the 3rd but have him on another team and took Taylor Mason instead. Couldn't pass on him in the 4th though.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
I get Warren, especially with Danny Dimes or AR as the QB, but for some reason I thought Downs was essentially a 1 trick pony in the slot. To be fair, I had to go back and look at his stats from 2024 and the target share was higher than I anticipated.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
I get Warren, especially with Danny Dimes or AR as the QB, but for some reason I thought Downs was essentially a 1 trick pony in the slot. To be fair, I had to go back and look at his stats from 2024 and the target share was higher than I anticipated.
I’m pretty sure both Warren and Downs will get more targets than Pittman, assuming no injuries.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
I get Warren, especially with Danny Dimes or AR as the QB, but for some reason I thought Downs was essentially a 1 trick pony in the slot. To be fair, I had to go back and look at his stats from 2024 and the target share was higher than I anticipated.
I’m pretty sure both Warren and Downs will get more targets than Pittman, assuming no injuries.
Do you expect Warren to line up mostly in-line or will he take some slot reps away from Downs?
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
I get Warren, especially with Danny Dimes or AR as the QB, but for some reason I thought Downs was essentially a 1 trick pony in the slot. To be fair, I had to go back and look at his stats from 2024 and the target share was higher than I anticipated.
I’m pretty sure both Warren and Downs will get more targets than Pittman, assuming no injuries.
Do you expect Warren to line up mostly in-line or will he take some slot reps away from Downs?
I think Warren will line up all over the field. He proved this at Penn St.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
I really like Downs but I expect Pittman to be the #1 there still. Pittman was leading the team in targets last year with a broken back. Warren is a rookie and not sure there will be enough targets to go around for him year 1 as the third wheel. INDY has never really figured out how to use a TE in that offense so its a show me and I will believe it. They have been drafting TEs for 5 years straight and its an empty jar right now. Sure Warren is likely the best of them with good first round draft capital but its a steep learning curve for TEs going into the NFL. I'd rather bet on the proven vet WR over a rookie TE coming in and having to learn a new system. Every year there is too much rookie hype and the expectations are out the roof. These could be great NFL players but sometimes they need time.

Pittman has finished as the WR15 twice and WR23 once - he's proven it.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
I really like Downs but I expect Pittman to be the #1 there still. Pittman was leading the team in targets last year with a broken back. Warren is a rookie and not sure there will be enough targets to go around for him year 1 as the third wheel. INDY has never really figured out how to use a TE in that offense so its a show me and I will believe it. They have been drafting TEs for 5 years straight and its an empty jar right now. Sure Warren is likely the best of them with good first round draft capital but its a steep learning curve for TEs going into the NFL. I'd rather bet on the proven vet WR over a rookie TE coming in and having to learn a new system. Every year there is too much rookie hype and the expectations are out the roof. These could be great NFL players but sometimes they need time.

Pittman has finished as the WR15 twice and WR23 once - he's proven it.
As someone that follows the Colts I’m saying you should fade Pittman. Warren and Downs will be the only two fantasy relevant pass catchers on that team and both won’t be consistent every week.
 
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
I own Andrews and don’t think I’d take Pittman for him.
The owner was shopping Andrews and I asked him what he wanted and he said Pittman, I guess he thinks he'll bounce back and he could. I had felt like Andrews could be an upgrade at TE (I had Ferguson as my starter)
12 team 1 QB PPR

Michael Pittman for Mark Andrews.
Currently fair, but man, how far has Pittman fallen. That dude was a low end WR1 at one point...
One off (injured) year and everyone writes him off. Everyone needs that immediate satisfaction. Pittman was playing with a really bad back and they tried to shut him down but he wanted to keep playing. Tough as nails. If he's 100% healthy he will bounce back and be a huge value. Problem is the QB situation is not good.

Imagine if Pittman went to the Rams instead of Adams and got to play with Stafford. Glorious it would be.
He totally could which is why the Andrews owner went for it I think.

Anyways thanks guys.
I think both Pittman and Andrews are underrated right now and buy low opportunities. I actually really like both. Not a bad trade as both are looking for a bounce back year which could happen for both.
I would fade Pittman. He’s no better than 3rd in targets in a bad passing offense.
Who do you have getting more targets?
It has to be Warren and Downs. No way Pierce earns more targets as a wind sprinter and Mitchell hasn't cracked the starting lineup yet.
Yes, Warren and Downs. I’d bet the farm on it, barring injury of course.
I really like Downs but I expect Pittman to be the #1 there still. Pittman was leading the team in targets last year with a broken back. Warren is a rookie and not sure there will be enough targets to go around for him year 1 as the third wheel. INDY has never really figured out how to use a TE in that offense so its a show me and I will believe it. They have been drafting TEs for 5 years straight and its an empty jar right now. Sure Warren is likely the best of them with good first round draft capital but its a steep learning curve for TEs going into the NFL. I'd rather bet on the proven vet WR over a rookie TE coming in and having to learn a new system. Every year there is too much rookie hype and the expectations are out the roof. These could be great NFL players but sometimes they need time.

Pittman has finished as the WR15 twice and WR23 once - he's proven it.
As someone that follows the Colts I’m saying you should fade Pittman. Warren and Downs will be the only two fantasy relevant pass catchers on that team and both won’t be consistent every week.
If that is truly the case then INDY hasn't changed and they will be a mess on offense again. If they don't want Pittman why give him a 3-year $70M contract with $46M guaranteed last year.

They should trade Pittman than have him waste his talents as the 3rd target option. Best case scenario for Downs is for him to reach the levels of success Pittman has done already (3x) in his career.

Like I said before, I like Downs (I drafted him as a rookie) but he's not yet on Pittman's level for success. Maybe he will get there but he has to put together 3 good years. Pittman already has.
 

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