Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I like Jennings more than Shakir so storing McMillan is a nice extra as you said. I like this.
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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (8 Viewers)
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Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Good trade especially for an already good team.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
All day. My goodness. Jefferson is still only 25.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
He will be 26 in a week. I think this is a pretty fair trade.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
I think it's fair but I'd take the Jefferson side easily.
FarFromHome
Footballguy
I guess people have seen enough in his one year in the NFL to put him in the same category as a guy who has absolutely killed it for 5 years. I haven't. Imo. The reigning champ in your league capitalized nicely.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE, 1 SuperFlex (6 point passing TD) PPR/TE Prem
Traded
Devon Achane + Most likely late 26 1st
for
Dak, Derrick Henry, Khalil Shakir
My only 2 QBs that aren't bench guys were Caleb Williams/Anthony Richardson. I have depth at RB as I still have Henry, Jonathan Taylor, Bucky, Omarion Hampton, Spears, Jaydon Blue, and Woody marks. But outside of Lamb/Ladd, my only WRs were Aiyuk/Watson (both won't be ready early I don't think) outside of long shots that probably shouldn't be starting. Thoughts?
Traded
Devon Achane + Most likely late 26 1st
for
Dak, Derrick Henry, Khalil Shakir
My only 2 QBs that aren't bench guys were Caleb Williams/Anthony Richardson. I have depth at RB as I still have Henry, Jonathan Taylor, Bucky, Omarion Hampton, Spears, Jaydon Blue, and Woody marks. But outside of Lamb/Ladd, my only WRs were Aiyuk/Watson (both won't be ready early I don't think) outside of long shots that probably shouldn't be starting. Thoughts?
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE (only 7) .5 PPR.
Trade
Ladd McConkey
For
2026 1st
2026 2nd
2027 1st
All most definitely later.
WR still consist of Justin Jefferson, Brian Thomas, Mike Evans, Jaylen Waddle, Calvin Ridley, Ricky Pearsall, and Pat Bryant. RBs are Barkley, CMC, Henry, and Hall.
Trade
Ladd McConkey
For
2026 1st
2026 2nd
2027 1st
All most definitely later.
WR still consist of Justin Jefferson, Brian Thomas, Mike Evans, Jaylen Waddle, Calvin Ridley, Ricky Pearsall, and Pat Bryant. RBs are Barkley, CMC, Henry, and Hall.
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Dez
Footballguy
Beats what the guy in my league got. The guy in my league sold Jefferson for a 2026 projected late 1st and 2nd plus the 2.09 and Downs.
Right up there for worst trade ever done. Hard to believe people can make such trades.
Jonesin For Some Football
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
Will take Ladd hear easily
joey
Footballguy
yeah
Sure. Not Veto-worthy, but I'd like to hear if a single SharkPooler would take the BTJ/2026 late 1st side over Jefferson.
Sure. Not Veto-worthy, but I'd like to hear if a single SharkPooler would take the BTJ/2026 late 1st side over Jefferson.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Depends on my team. Plus it is superflex
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
This Jefferson/BTJ trade is yet another great example of why trading up in startups is almost always the better deal in the end.
You could trade startp pick 15 + 2026 future 1st for startup pick 9 in basically any startup any time you want to, but no one ever makes that trade. I bet if we separately and blindly (impossible now, sadly) put up pick 15 + future 1st against pick 9 people would vote overwhelmingly in favor of pick 15 + future 1st.
Yet when you put the actual names to it (BTJ is ADP pick 15 in SF and JJ is ADP pick 9) everyone says it's unbalanced in the opposite direction.
You could trade startp pick 15 + 2026 future 1st for startup pick 9 in basically any startup any time you want to, but no one ever makes that trade. I bet if we separately and blindly (impossible now, sadly) put up pick 15 + future 1st against pick 9 people would vote overwhelmingly in favor of pick 15 + future 1st.
Yet when you put the actual names to it (BTJ is ADP pick 15 in SF and JJ is ADP pick 9) everyone says it's unbalanced in the opposite direction.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Saw a couple trades go down today.
1QB/PPR 10 team start 10 (4FLEX) -
Team A gets:
Brian Thomas Jr.
Team B gets:
Puka Nacua
2027 1st (mid?)
Team C gets:
Blake Corum (Kyren owner)
2025 1.10
Team D gets:
Mike Evans
2025 3.05
2025 4.05
Odd trade here. C was a full rebuild last year. Shipped CMC for some picks and players. Crawled to middle of the pack but desperately needs RB. Team D would be a full rebuild for me, roster has a couple players but dont understand ditching tge 1.10 for late round dart throws and an old Mike Evans.
1QB/PPR 10 team start 10 (4FLEX) -
Team A gets:
Brian Thomas Jr.
Team B gets:
Puka Nacua
2027 1st (mid?)
Team C gets:
Blake Corum (Kyren owner)
2025 1.10
Team D gets:
Mike Evans
2025 3.05
2025 4.05
Odd trade here. C was a full rebuild last year. Shipped CMC for some picks and players. Crawled to middle of the pack but desperately needs RB. Team D would be a full rebuild for me, roster has a couple players but dont understand ditching tge 1.10 for late round dart throws and an old Mike Evans.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
Knowing when to rebuild/retool is 2/3 the battle. For me, it can be difficult to hold the timeline when a rebuild team hits the middle of the pack in year 1. The temptation to "just add a few pieces and make a contender" is so strong...
jm192
Footballguy
12 Team, 0.5 PPR
Gave: Tyreke Hill
Got: Trey Benson.
I'm a contending team, just won the league this past season. But I just want to get something out of Hill before I can't. Between his age, the bad season, and all of the off the field drama, really feel like I can't trust him going forward.
Looking at dynasty rankings, keep trade cut, etc, it looks like Hill was worth "more." But I'm surprised I got Benson. Most teams aren't even interested in discussing him. One guy told me "No way I'm taking Antonio Brown 2.0."
Gave: Tyreke Hill
Got: Trey Benson.
I'm a contending team, just won the league this past season. But I just want to get something out of Hill before I can't. Between his age, the bad season, and all of the off the field drama, really feel like I can't trust him going forward.
Looking at dynasty rankings, keep trade cut, etc, it looks like Hill was worth "more." But I'm surprised I got Benson. Most teams aren't even interested in discussing him. One guy told me "No way I'm taking Antonio Brown 2.0."
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
easily Hill side. I would not call this getting something out of Hill
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I didn’t think the difference between Thomas and Puka would be a 1st, would easily take the Puka side here.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Hill is worth way more than Benson. But if you shopped him, that's the best you could get, and you want to dump him then no issues with that. But if I had a chance to go back to back I'd keep Hill and go for it.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Puka and 1st and it's not close.
If D is a rebuild, then not good to trade a first for Evans. That deal just boils down to roster construction to determine if either or both teams did well.
Big Nate
Footballguy
I think that is good value for Ladd as he is being hyped up quite a bit and to lock in that value isn't a bad thing. I would though then trade the 1st and 2nd for a player of need that is a stud and you can start all year and then you bank an extra first. Maybe package up Evans or Ridley and a first to tier back up.
It is good value but what can you do with those picks/players to land a stud and then have an extra first in the bank. Great way to build team value but you have to be active to get another starting player who can give you equal value to Ladd but maybe slightly less "worth" if that makes sense.
Big Nate
Footballguy
Maybe Kupp turns it around but he's finished WR40+ the last 2 years. Maybe he stays healthy but time is undefeated so no problems moving on. Noel has upside so that is a decent gamble. Tolbert is a roster clogger so flipping for Ayomanor to see if you can reroll that into something better isn't a bad idea.
I drafted Noel late 2nd and already flipped him for more value. I'd rather flip Noel (as a contender) to a rebuilding team and get a proven vet WR I can start each week.
I like your idea of getting younger and getting at lest some value for both Kupp and Tolbert but now take it the next step and see what you can do with those 2.
For example can you trade Noel + a little for say a guy like Jeudy? Not that it has to be him but something similiar. If there ends up being Noel hype in camp I'd keep the flip going and see where it ends up.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
1/2 ppr superflex. Start 1qb, 2 rb, 2wr, 1 te, 2 regular flex, one super flex.
Give mid 2026 second and Shaheed
Get Likely and Blue
Give mid 2026 second and Shaheed
Get Likely and Blue
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Big Nate
Footballguy
No requirement to start a TE? I don't mind the trade (getting out on Shaheed) if you need a TE but not sure I do that if no required TE.
Likely is a good player and so far has been having a good camp but I think I'd probably use the 2nd rounder for a player I could start in a required spot.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
I will edit. We do start a tight end.
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
Good deal especially if you think Kupp is cooked.
I think the big difference here is startup versus established team. Sure, if I'm the defending champ (or even just a semifinalist from the previous season), and I knew my 1st was likely going to be late, I'd trade BTJ and my 1st for JJ all day. But if pick 9 is on the clock in a startup and I want to move up for JJ, it's not a slam dunk to trade pick 15 and my 1st because I don't know what my build is going to be yet. Maybe my targets keep getting sniped and I prefer to trade back to accumulate future picks. Maybe I commit to a team that's super young and isn't likely to compete in year 1. Even if I commit to a win-now build and use my future picks to move up, I mainly play FFPC, where plenty of win-now teams miss the playoffs, but I've traded my future 1st and I'm stuck with (likely) an older team with a more difficult path to getting younger.
I like the value on BTJ side
Fairly close to the bolded for me.
I do give JJ more credit for multi-years of production over one but I also give BTJ a plus in his win column for being 3 years younger. I've long been of the opinion the best way for sustained dynasty success on a team is to be willing to take these kind of shots to get younger to avoid full on rebuilds or extend the window of contention. I'm comfortable taking shots on unknown or not known enough to do this.
I don't play SF but a first, even a late one, in a deep looking QB class sure seems good to me in that format and like the value I can add to my roster with the BTJ side.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Yeah those dynamics are always fascinating to me. Rookie fever in rookie drafts is basically the same process in reverse. Like 3.02 is worth x points per whatever trade system you want but once that 3.02 becomes Mason Taylor, that value spikes, to the owner anyway, but extrapolate that across fantasy and rookie fever can be measured.
I feel like both Jefferson shouldn't be going as late as 9 in a startup and that with the arrival of Hunter, BTJ shouldn't be going as early as 15. Which is why I like the on-paper value of 15 plus the future 1st by a lot. Because I can pick *my* choice at 15 and I certainly think the field can produce someone I like more than BTJ at that spot (he is awesome don't get me wrong). So, yeah I'd rather have JJ than BTJ and a rando 1st but it's certainly fair.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
agreed, I would think a contending team could outbid Benson. Meaning the *other* contending team that acquired Hill.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
FFPC TriFlex
I gave Nix, J Ferguson
I got Stafford, K Coleman, Downs
Need WRs and I think Coleman could explode this year. Downs is really solid too. I'm strong at TE and not as big of a believer in Ferguson after Pickens went to Dallas, and I also have too many shares of him.
I gave Nix, J Ferguson
I got Stafford, K Coleman, Downs
Need WRs and I think Coleman could explode this year. Downs is really solid too. I'm strong at TE and not as big of a believer in Ferguson after Pickens went to Dallas, and I also have too many shares of him.
oldmanhawkins
Footballguy
superflex with +0.5 per catch for TEs.
Team A gave: Likely
Team B gave: Keon Coleman
Team A gave: Devonta Smith
Team C gave: DK and Marshawn Lloyd
I’m C, been waiting to AArod to sign to put DK on the block and I’ve been trying to get skinny Batman in a few leagues for awhile.
Team A gave: Likely
Team B gave: Keon Coleman
Team A gave: Devonta Smith
Team C gave: DK and Marshawn Lloyd
I’m C, been waiting to AArod to sign to put DK on the block and I’ve been trying to get skinny Batman in a few leagues for awhile.
I like the idea of selling high on Nix and buying low on Keon, but respectfully this was the opposite of those things IMO. In this format Nix is currently worth significantly more than that as a 2nd round startup pick. Downs and Keon are more like 8th & 9th round. I’d rather have Nix than the entire other side and shop him for something much better in return… Edit: once again IMO....
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Agreed, although admittedly not a big fan of Coleman. I do like Downs, but not enough to lose Nix in this format.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Smash Nix
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Agree.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Um ok well I didn't say I was trying to sell high on Nix. Those are your words not mine. I believe in him but this was simply a value trade where I needed WRs and I am saying I think the market is way too low on Coleman and Downs. I have this trade as even and so did the first two calcs I looked at. Stafford should provide production for another couple years and if Coleman is who I think he is then I win this trade. Downs is free or maybe 1:1 with Ferguson.
I really really don't like using startup values to gauge a trade. Nobody is paying 2nd/3rd startup value for Nix *except* in a startup. And FWIW in the startup I did about a month ago he went 3.12 as QB15. I do concede it looks like I could have got more though.
steelcityman
Footballguy
I need RB, would give LaPorta to a team that needs TE for 1.07. Good deal for both?
I would still have Kittle at TE, and would have picks 1.07 and 1.12. 7 would be for a RB, and 12 would go back to BPA, also have 2.04.
I would still have Kittle at TE, and would have picks 1.07 and 1.12. 7 would be for a RB, and 12 would go back to BPA, also have 2.04.
TVT 0 N S T A
Footballguy
Who do you have your eye on at 1.07?
Ultimately, in a standard league that trade begins to look like LaPorta for Kaleb Johnson, RJ Harvey and are you comfortable with that?
It's probably a wash. I think Kittle is more appropriate to value and would probably want more for giving up LaPorta.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Without knowing who is available I would hold. Owners get loose at times thinking they should trade depth, but depth comes in handy more often than not. I know you mentioned RB is a need, but I wouldn’t make the trade unless you know your guy is available at that pick.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Likely and DK side for me.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I think I agree with the others that you undersold on Nix. Every league is different I totally get that, but in all of my leagues I have definitely seen him valued very highly, not just in startups but with actual value meeting that startup capital.
I totally get what you're saying here on buying Coleman low, but the problem with this deal is that is really already built into the deal because you're giving up so much value-wise. Nix in dynasty rankings relative to WRs is already in the range of guys like Ladd, MHJ, JSN, Wilson so even if Coleman hits his upside is likely already near the value being paid.
Of course I realize that you're also getting Downs and Stafford but Stafford loses a lot of value in FFPC relative to larger roster SF leagues and Ferguson being given up is no slouch either in that format.
Ultimately at current values Coleman is more of a throw-in type guy in a deal for Nix rather than the main part of it.
Of course this is FF so if you're right against the consensus in fading Nix and being bullish on Coleman it could of course turn out very well for you.
darksideofoz
Footballguy
0.5 ppr and 0.5 pp1stdown
start 3 wr, 1 te and 2 flex (also can use RB for flex)
Took over an orphaned team. TEs were good, but WR was barren. I only had Pearsall on the team at WR. Have Kittle, Engram and Ertz for TE.
I put out to the league chat I was interested in moving Kittle. He has a very high salary and only 1 year left on his contract and not sure I want to pay up for the pay increase if I sign him to another contract next year. I didn't get anyone really responding to that, but I did get an offer for Engram.
I give up Engram, I get Aiyuk with a 3 year contract and Wan'Dale Robinson with a 1 year contract.
I thought it was a very good offer for me, but I didn't jump at it because Aiyuk's salary is a bit high. Currently 4th highest WR salary. I think the lowest it will go is 5th or 6th after some players get new contracts. I held off until after I have a chance to bid on restricted free agent CeeDee Lamb. I also have some hopes for bidding on Josh Allen, but his salary will be so ridiculously high that it doesn't make sense to rebuild around him, though I desperately need a QB and there are slim pickings available outside of trading.
Trading for Aiyuk and his high salary would basically mean I'm out on bidding on Allen. I can easily make it work even if I also get CeeDee.
Anyone so crazy high on Engram as the Joker in Denver that they think I shouldn't move on from him? I have him under a pretty cheap 2 year contract.
I think I might be on the higher end of the spectrum for excitement for Engram in Denver. Even so I think this trade makes sense for me.
Oh, and I don't have a 2nd round pick in the rookie draft and if I get CeeDee I'll also not have a 1st round pick (which I wouldn't use on a TE if I do keep it). I won't get any rookie TEs worth much at least for the 1st couple years in the 3rd round or later.
ETA: just realized that maybe this isn't the right thread for this. I can move if necessary.
start 3 wr, 1 te and 2 flex (also can use RB for flex)
Took over an orphaned team. TEs were good, but WR was barren. I only had Pearsall on the team at WR. Have Kittle, Engram and Ertz for TE.
I put out to the league chat I was interested in moving Kittle. He has a very high salary and only 1 year left on his contract and not sure I want to pay up for the pay increase if I sign him to another contract next year. I didn't get anyone really responding to that, but I did get an offer for Engram.
I give up Engram, I get Aiyuk with a 3 year contract and Wan'Dale Robinson with a 1 year contract.
I thought it was a very good offer for me, but I didn't jump at it because Aiyuk's salary is a bit high. Currently 4th highest WR salary. I think the lowest it will go is 5th or 6th after some players get new contracts. I held off until after I have a chance to bid on restricted free agent CeeDee Lamb. I also have some hopes for bidding on Josh Allen, but his salary will be so ridiculously high that it doesn't make sense to rebuild around him, though I desperately need a QB and there are slim pickings available outside of trading.
Trading for Aiyuk and his high salary would basically mean I'm out on bidding on Allen. I can easily make it work even if I also get CeeDee.
Anyone so crazy high on Engram as the Joker in Denver that they think I shouldn't move on from him? I have him under a pretty cheap 2 year contract.
I think I might be on the higher end of the spectrum for excitement for Engram in Denver. Even so I think this trade makes sense for me.
Oh, and I don't have a 2nd round pick in the rookie draft and if I get CeeDee I'll also not have a 1st round pick (which I wouldn't use on a TE if I do keep it). I won't get any rookie TEs worth much at least for the 1st couple years in the 3rd round or later.
ETA: just realized that maybe this isn't the right thread for this. I can move if necessary.
InDitkaWeTrust
Footballguy
I'm on the Aiyuk/Wandale side. Aiyuk probably won't be in full form in 2025, but you have him on a 3 year deal and I'd expect him to be their uncontested WR1 in 2026. Wandale is criminally underrated in any PPR format and got a QB boost. Neither of these guys are world beaters but it'll definitely help fill the 3WR roster requirement.
darksideofoz
Footballguy
thanks.
I also picked up Nico Collins since I took over and have a 4 year contract for him. not sure how I forgot to mention that!
steelcityman
Footballguy
Johnson or Harvey would be the targets, unless a Judkins or Henderson slid. But any of those would be fine. I kind of agree with the post about waiting to see who is on the board at 1.07, all the RBs could be gone, and I am SOL, and minus LaPorta.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
All good but as I've tried to emphasize, I'm not fading Nix, I'm just selling him in a deal. I'm a fan.
