** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (1 Viewer)

[zadok]

Anyone see that rumor posted about Dallas trying to trade for Roy Willliams, offering Ellis and Anthony Henry? If Lions didnt go for Lito, why would they go for Anthony Henry. Although if this happens, I would puke.

No, but thanks for making me nauseous as well...

 

[LILB811]

Westy is asking for $30mil over 3 years

Swami says: I see a RB in the 1st rd of the 2009 draft for the Iggles.

This is either a poorly thought out negotiating ploy, or Westy is delusional. I'm sure teams will be lining up to hand over $30 mil to a 29 yr old RB with a LOOOOONG history of knee and ankle issues

I'm pretty sure it won't happen, but I have no problem with the Eagles paying him that amount. He most assuredly earned it. The Eagles O doesn't go very far without him......Booker or not. He will be in camp and a holdout is highly unlikely in my opinion. I say pay him. Pay him well. Maybe not what he is currently asking for, but at least more than they supposedly originally offerred. Westbrook is worth every penny to keep him in Eagles green for the remainder of his career.

I think if they should pay anyone its Lito. After giving Asante the keys the to the Linc, Lito is drastically underpaid. As for Westy, he just signed his new deal a couple years ago and i'm sure it had a nice chunk of guaranteed money in it. If anything, i'd say you put in some games played incentives to the contract. Other than that, sorry Westy, you shouldnt have signed a 5 year deal at age 27 if you didnt think it was your BIG payday. Everyone knows (most) RBs flame out after 30 and very few get paid big bucks around that magic #. Just look at the SA deal in Seattle. They paid him for past performance instead of future performance and see how that worked out?

I’m honestly amazed at how you think the Eagles should just kick far and away their best player to the curb. Westbrook is the 14th highest paid running back, and signed a long term deal when he hadn’t yet even recorded 200 carries in a season. Sure, let’s laugh and say boo hoo sorry West when the guy was more concerned about family and job security and being in a city he loves unlike so many other players who are only in it for the money. Ridiculous.By comparison, Westbrook has 700 fewer carries than Portis, 1100 fewer carries than Jamal Lewis, 1300 fewer carries than LT, and 1800 fewer carries than Edge. And at the time Alexander got his raise he had 700 more carries than Westbrook does now. The guy DESERVES to get paid. Without him on the team I honestly believe the chance of winning a Super Bowl is exactly 0%, and he knows that becoming a free agent after 30 will probably prevent him from getting a big pay day then. I don’t blame him.

I really hope the team does decide to change their history and reward our best player for literally carrying this team on his back these past 2 years. He probably will do it again.

 

[scratcher]

Re: Westbrook -- I think we should pay the man. We are ~19 mill under the cap this year (before rookie contracts, which shouldn't make much of an impact). I know we use some of that money to sign extensions throughout the year but that is still a considerable amount of money. While I do think 30 million/3 yrs is a bit much, the Eagles should definitely go out of their way to make him happy.

 

[Bob Wiley]

Deranged hasn't posted an update in a while. He's due. Deranged: Time to pick up the green phone.

 

[stevegamer]

I see its pretty unanimous for the Dallas game at #1. I'm actually torn between PIT and DAL right now. I've been going a few years and as much as I like the NFC East battles I like to go see teams that we don't normally get to see too. On a strategical note, there's a chance that game might make it back to me for pick #4. (If you didn't notice, the Giant game went to them at #1 already) The last game of the year has been really unpopular in these drafts and I could see them going with the Monday Nighter instead. If not, then at least I get the Monday Nighter as a consolation prize.Also looking down the line at how it will play out, I think if I don't take Pitt now we won't have our first game until October (and maybe late October).Does it seem downright unamerican to pass up Eagles-Dallas for the rarely played instate rivalry?

I'd take Eagles-Steelers over Eagles-Dallas in a heartbeat.If you want to see Eagles-Dallas you'll get either them or the Giants next year, given the same drafting. And then the year after that, you'll probably get the other one. You should be able to see Eagles-Dallas & Eagles-Giants about every other year. Recurring rivalries games are nice, but they recur.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Westy is asking for $30mil over 3 years

Swami says: I see a RB in the 1st rd of the 2009 draft for the Iggles.

This is either a poorly thought out negotiating ploy, or Westy is delusional. I'm sure teams will be lining up to hand over $30 mil to a 29 yr old RB with a LOOOOONG history of knee and ankle issues

I'm pretty sure it won't happen, but I have no problem with the Eagles paying him that amount. He most assuredly earned it. The Eagles O doesn't go very far without him......Booker or not. He will be in camp and a holdout is highly unlikely in my opinion. I say pay him. Pay him well. Maybe not what he is currently asking for, but at least more than they supposedly originally offerred. Westbrook is worth every penny to keep him in Eagles green for the remainder of his career.

I think if they should pay anyone its Lito. After giving Asante the keys the to the Linc, Lito is drastically underpaid. As for Westy, he just signed his new deal a couple years ago and i'm sure it had a nice chunk of guaranteed money in it. If anything, i'd say you put in some games played incentives to the contract. Other than that, sorry Westy, you shouldnt have signed a 5 year deal at age 27 if you didnt think it was your BIG payday. Everyone knows (most) RBs flame out after 30 and very few get paid big bucks around that magic #. Just look at the SA deal in Seattle. They paid him for past performance instead of future performance and see how that worked out?

I'm OK with them paying both Lito and Westy. Lito also deserves to get paid. I do not think that a Westbrook-Alexander comparison is fair at all. Westbrook has considerably less mileage at his age than Alexander did when he got his big contract. I also do not see Westbrook falling apart in one year just because he turns the magical "30".

 

[renesauz]

Re: Westbrook -- I think we should pay the man. We are ~19 mill under the cap this year (before rookie contracts, which shouldn't make much of an impact). I know we use some of that money to sign extensions throughout the year but that is still a considerable amount of money. While I do think 30 million/3 yrs is a bit much, the Eagles should definitely go out of their way to make him happy.

I pretty much agree with this. Westy is certainly underpaid right now, and a new deal makes sense. That said, 30mil/3 is too much. 22mil/3 with at least 12.5 gaurenteed makes more sense, and would still be a nice pay raise for Westy.

 

[dotman]

Westy is asking for $30mil over 3 years

Swami says: I see a RB in the 1st rd of the 2009 draft for the Iggles.

This is either a poorly thought out negotiating ploy, or Westy is delusional. I'm sure teams will be lining up to hand over $30 mil to a 29 yr old RB with a LOOOOONG history of knee and ankle issues

I'm pretty sure it won't happen, but I have no problem with the Eagles paying him that amount. He most assuredly earned it. The Eagles O doesn't go very far without him......Booker or not. He will be in camp and a holdout is highly unlikely in my opinion. I say pay him. Pay him well. Maybe not what he is currently asking for, but at least more than they supposedly originally offerred. Westbrook is worth every penny to keep him in Eagles green for the remainder of his career.

I think if they should pay anyone its Lito. After giving Asante the keys the to the Linc, Lito is drastically underpaid. As for Westy, he just signed his new deal a couple years ago and i'm sure it had a nice chunk of guaranteed money in it. If anything, i'd say you put in some games played incentives to the contract. Other than that, sorry Westy, you shouldnt have signed a 5 year deal at age 27 if you didnt think it was your BIG payday. Everyone knows (most) RBs flame out after 30 and very few get paid big bucks around that magic #. Just look at the SA deal in Seattle. They paid him for past performance instead of future performance and see how that worked out?

I’m honestly amazed at how you think the Eagles should just kick far and away their best player to the curb. Westbrook is the 14th highest paid running back, and signed a long term deal when he hadn’t yet even recorded 200 carries in a season. Sure, let’s laugh and say boo hoo sorry West when the guy was more concerned about family and job security and being in a city he loves unlike so many other players who are only in it for the money. Ridiculous.By comparison, Westbrook has 700 fewer carries than Portis, 1100 fewer carries than Jamal Lewis, 1300 fewer carries than LT, and 1800 fewer carries than Edge. And at the time Alexander got his raise he had 700 more carries than Westbrook does now. The guy DESERVES to get paid. Without him on the team I honestly believe the chance of winning a Super Bowl is exactly 0%, and he knows that becoming a free agent after 30 will probably prevent him from getting a big pay day then. I don’t blame him.

I really hope the team does decide to change their history and reward our best player for literally carrying this team on his back these past 2 years. He probably will do it again.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Westy is asking for $30mil over 3 years

Swami says: I see a RB in the 1st rd of the 2009 draft for the Iggles.

This is either a poorly thought out negotiating ploy, or Westy is delusional. I'm sure teams will be lining up to hand over $30 mil to a 29 yr old RB with a LOOOOONG history of knee and ankle issues

I'm pretty sure it won't happen, but I have no problem with the Eagles paying him that amount. He most assuredly earned it. The Eagles O doesn't go very far without him......Booker or not. He will be in camp and a holdout is highly unlikely in my opinion. I say pay him. Pay him well. Maybe not what he is currently asking for, but at least more than they supposedly originally offerred. Westbrook is worth every penny to keep him in Eagles green for the remainder of his career.

I think if they should pay anyone its Lito. After giving Asante the keys the to the Linc, Lito is drastically underpaid. As for Westy, he just signed his new deal a couple years ago and i'm sure it had a nice chunk of guaranteed money in it. If anything, i'd say you put in some games played incentives to the contract. Other than that, sorry Westy, you shouldnt have signed a 5 year deal at age 27 if you didnt think it was your BIG payday. Everyone knows (most) RBs flame out after 30 and very few get paid big bucks around that magic #. Just look at the SA deal in Seattle. They paid him for past performance instead of future performance and see how that worked out?

I’m honestly amazed at how you think the Eagles should just kick far and away their best player to the curb. Westbrook is the 14th highest paid running back, and signed a long term deal when he hadn’t yet even recorded 200 carries in a season. Sure, let’s laugh and say boo hoo sorry West when the guy was more concerned about family and job security and being in a city he loves unlike so many other players who are only in it for the money. Ridiculous.By comparison, Westbrook has 700 fewer carries than Portis, 1100 fewer carries than Jamal Lewis, 1300 fewer carries than LT, and 1800 fewer carries than Edge. And at the time Alexander got his raise he had 700 more carries than Westbrook does now. The guy DESERVES to get paid. Without him on the team I honestly believe the chance of winning a Super Bowl is exactly 0%, and he knows that becoming a free agent after 30 will probably prevent him from getting a big pay day then. I don’t blame him.

I really hope the team does decide to change their history and reward our best player for literally carrying this team on his back these past 2 years. He probably will do it again.

definitely not a You're confusing "kicking him to the curb" with "making him honor the contract he signed". I never said they should get rid of him. IIRC Westy is under contract for the next 3 years. This is a contract he signed ONLY 2 years ago. I dont agree with renegotiating a contract that is not even half way completed yet. Andi know that the Eagles Front Office doesnt like to redo contracts, period. So, while i dont blame Westy for trying to get more, i stand by my statement; "Sorry, you shouldnt have signed that long term deal at age 27 if you thought you deserved more". Again, if they want to put in some incentives to his current contract, i'm all for that. Put in some games played clauses, a super bowl clause, a pro bowl clause, a 1500 yd season clause. Fine. i just dont agree with tearing up the old contract and throwing 30 million in guaranteed money at the guy.

As for the stats you threw up there, they're meaningless. Westy's knees are so bad that he cant even practice during the week. So i dont really care how many fewer carries he has than a random selection of RBs, he is still close to the end. That may be 1 more good year, it may be 3. The point is you dont know and all signs are pointing to trouble ahead for Westy.

Trust me, as a lifelong Eagles fan, i wish they would make everyone happy on that team and pay them and also go out and sign a big #1 WR. But, as a logical person, i dont agree with overpaying an aging RB based on their past performance

 

[renesauz]

You're confusing "kicking him to the curb" with "making him honor the contract he signed". I never said they should get rid of him. IIRC Westy is under contract for the next 3 years. This is a contract he signed ONLY 2 years ago. I dont agree with renegotiating a contract that is not even half way completed yet. Andi know that the Eagles Front Office doesnt like to redo contracts, period. So, while i dont blame Westy for trying to get more, i stand by my statement; "Sorry, you shouldnt have signed that long term deal at age 27 if you thought you deserved more". Again, if they want to put in some incentives to his current contract, i'm all for that. Put in some games played clauses, a super bowl clause, a pro bowl clause, a 1500 yd season clause. Fine. i just dont agree with tearing up the old contract and throwing 30 million in guaranteed money at the guy.

As for the stats you threw up there, they're meaningless. Westy's knees are so bad that he cant even practice during the week. So i dont really care how many fewer carries he has than a random selection of RBs, he is still close to the end. That may be 1 more good year, it may be 3. The point is you dont know and all signs are pointing to trouble ahead for Westy.

Trust me, as a lifelong Eagles fan, i wish they would make everyone happy on that team and pay them and also go out and sign a big #1 WR. But, as a logical person, i dont agree with overpaying an aging RB based on their past performance

Buddy, I too am generally not fond of players wanting to renogiate contracts 2 years into them, but I don't think it's fair to hold this a true rule. After all, teams can renogotiate (cancel) contracts virtually at will. For example, I thought it was ridiculous for TO to want to renogiate because he was being paid as a top WR already, and was only one year in. Westy however, is NOT being paid as a top RB! He's being paid as an average NFL starting RB, perhaps even lower then that. While 30 million seems a bit unreasonable to me, Westy's demand for a new deal more then makes sense.While I value your opinion towards contracts, I do beleive there are a handfull of legit holdouts every year, and Westy could be one of them. Hopefuly, it won't go that far.

Lito is a little different. Although I think a new deal would be reasonable, I don't think Lito has quite enough going for him to justify any sort of holdout. IE: It's reasonable for the FO to expect him to stay healthy a season first.

 

[Pickle Rody]

You're confusing "kicking him to the curb" with "making him honor the contract he signed". I never said they should get rid of him. IIRC Westy is under contract for the next 3 years. This is a contract he signed ONLY 2 years ago. I dont agree with renegotiating a contract that is not even half way completed yet. Andi know that the Eagles Front Office doesnt like to redo contracts, period. So, while i dont blame Westy for trying to get more, i stand by my statement; "Sorry, you shouldnt have signed that long term deal at age 27 if you thought you deserved more". Again, if they want to put in some incentives to his current contract, i'm all for that. Put in some games played clauses, a super bowl clause, a pro bowl clause, a 1500 yd season clause. Fine. i just dont agree with tearing up the old contract and throwing 30 million in guaranteed money at the guy.

As for the stats you threw up there, they're meaningless. Westy's knees are so bad that he cant even practice during the week. So i dont really care how many fewer carries he has than a random selection of RBs, he is still close to the end. That may be 1 more good year, it may be 3. The point is you dont know and all signs are pointing to trouble ahead for Westy.

Trust me, as a lifelong Eagles fan, i wish they would make everyone happy on that team and pay them and also go out and sign a big #1 WR. But, as a logical person, i dont agree with overpaying an aging RB based on their past performance

Buddy, I too am generally not fond of players wanting to renogiate contracts 2 years into them, but I don't think it's fair to hold this a true rule. After all, teams can renogotiate (cancel) contracts virtually at will. For example, I thought it was ridiculous for TO to want to renogiate because he was being paid as a top WR already, and was only one year in. Westy however, is NOT being paid as a top RB! He's being paid as an average NFL starting RB, perhaps even lower then that. While 30 million seems a bit unreasonable to me, Westy's demand for a new deal more then makes sense.While I value your opinion towards contracts, I do beleive there are a handfull of legit holdouts every year, and Westy could be one of them. Hopefuly, it won't go that far.

Lito is a little different. Although I think a new deal would be reasonable, I don't think Lito has quite enough going for him to justify any sort of holdout. IE: It's reasonable for the FO to expect him to stay healthy a season first.

Well said renesauz...this is pretty much my viewpoint also, but I do not say it so well.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

You're confusing "kicking him to the curb" with "making him honor the contract he signed". I never said they should get rid of him. IIRC Westy is under contract for the next 3 years. This is a contract he signed ONLY 2 years ago. I dont agree with renegotiating a contract that is not even half way completed yet. Andi know that the Eagles Front Office doesnt like to redo contracts, period. So, while i dont blame Westy for trying to get more, i stand by my statement; "Sorry, you shouldnt have signed that long term deal at age 27 if you thought you deserved more". Again, if they want to put in some incentives to his current contract, i'm all for that. Put in some games played clauses, a super bowl clause, a pro bowl clause, a 1500 yd season clause. Fine. i just dont agree with tearing up the old contract and throwing 30 million in guaranteed money at the guy.

As for the stats you threw up there, they're meaningless. Westy's knees are so bad that he cant even practice during the week. So i dont really care how many fewer carries he has than a random selection of RBs, he is still close to the end. That may be 1 more good year, it may be 3. The point is you dont know and all signs are pointing to trouble ahead for Westy.

Trust me, as a lifelong Eagles fan, i wish they would make everyone happy on that team and pay them and also go out and sign a big #1 WR. But, as a logical person, i dont agree with overpaying an aging RB based on their past performance

Buddy, I too am generally not fond of players wanting to renogiate contracts 2 years into them, but I don't think it's fair to hold this a true rule. After all, teams can renogotiate (cancel) contracts virtually at will. For example, I thought it was ridiculous for TO to want to renogiate because he was being paid as a top WR already, and was only one year in. Westy however, is NOT being paid as a top RB! He's being paid as an average NFL starting RB, perhaps even lower then that. While 30 million seems a bit unreasonable to me, Westy's demand for a new deal more then makes sense.While I value your opinion towards contracts, I do beleive there are a handfull of legit holdouts every year, and Westy could be one of them. Hopefuly, it won't go that far.

Lito is a little different. Although I think a new deal would be reasonable, I don't think Lito has quite enough going for him to justify any sort of holdout. IE: It's reasonable for the FO to expect him to stay healthy a season first.

Well said renesauz...this is pretty much my viewpoint also, but I do not say it so well.

Agreed, well said. I suppose we could really dive into the collective bargaining debate of teams rights vs players rights. But we can save that discussion for next offseason now that training camp is here I do agree that, based on his performance the last 2 years, Westy probably deserves more. So, if i'm Joe Banner (or whoever handles it), i say "thats fine, if you do it again this year, we'll incentivize the heck out of your season". I guess i'm just really wary of offering guarantee $$$ based on past performance.

As for Westy holding out, i actually would rather he did. The guy doesnt need to put any more reps on those knees. I say let him hold out until late August and save his knees for December (and hopefully January)

 

[PewterFan]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

 

[Chunky Soup]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

:wtff:

 

[JetMaxx]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

:wtff:

If true, that's rather telling. It's obvious that the Eagles wouldn't have an interest but think about it. They won't trade him to the Vikes but they would trade him to the Eagles? Kinda indicates where some in the league think the Eagles chances are this year.

 

[renesauz]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

:wtff:

If true, that's rather telling. It's obvious that the Eagles wouldn't have an interest but think about it. They won't trade him to the Vikes but they would trade him to the Eagles? Kinda indicates where some in the league think the Eagles chances are this year.

Umm...the PACKERS were the ones calling, so it means nothing. From what I understand, the Packers are probably calling just about everybody.This is NOT NEWS.

 

[Zoomanji]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

:wtff:

If true, that's rather telling. It's obvious that the Eagles wouldn't have an interest but think about it. They won't trade him to the Vikes but they would trade him to the Eagles? Kinda indicates where some in the league think the Eagles chances are this year.

Umm...the PACKERS were the ones calling, so it means nothing. From what I understand, the Packers are probably calling just about everybody.This is NOT NEWS.

Probably because Dad the commish said they have to try to trade him. They are probably calling everyone not in their division. LOLAnd not news

 

[scratcher]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

:wtff:

If true, that's rather telling. It's obvious that the Eagles wouldn't have an interest but think about it. They won't trade him to the Vikes but they would trade him to the Eagles? Kinda indicates where some in the league think the Eagles chances are this year.

Umm...the PACKERS were the ones calling, so it means nothing. From what I understand, the Packers are probably calling just about everybody.This is NOT NEWS.

From what I read, the Eagles were the only NFC team they contacted. That may not be news but it IS interesting..

 

[Jason Wood]

Sal P was on ESPN last night discussing this and said that Andy Reid "politely declined without hesitation."

Talk about people making mountains out of mole hills.

 

[Dr. J]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

:wtff:

If true, that's rather telling. It's obvious that the Eagles wouldn't have an interest but think about it. They won't trade him to the Vikes but they would trade him to the Eagles? Kinda indicates where some in the league think the Eagles chances are this year.

Umm...the PACKERS were the ones calling, so it means nothing. From what I understand, the Packers are probably calling just about everybody.This is NOT NEWS.

From what I read, the Eagles were the only NFC team they contacted. That may not be news but it IS interesting..

Since Favre and Reid's good relationship is not news, it makes sense since Favre has to approve the trade.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Now, andrews wants to redo his contract and may hold out

This is why i disagree with redoing Westy's contract. If the eagles front office backtracks on their policy, the line of players who want to redo their deals will stretch all they way down to Tony Luke's.

 

[Jason Wood]

Now, andrews wants to redo his contract and may hold out

This is why i disagree with redoing Westy's contract. If the eagles front office backtracks on their policy, the line of players who want to redo their deals will stretch all they way down to Tony Luke's.

Three problems with that...1) Eagles re-did Westbrook's deal in 2005 under identical circumstances, there is already precedent and, by the way, doing so didn't cause every other player to ask for raises

2) We (hopefully) learned from the TO debacle that not all players and their contracts are created equal

3) Eagles have a long history of locking up players to long term deal preemptively.

 

[scratcher]

The article about andrews is misleading because it doesnt take into account escalators. The 3 mill from this season is escalated from 780K and his 750K next year could very well be escalated depending on how he performs this season.

 

[renesauz]

(KFFL) Sal Paolantonio, of ESPN, reports the Green Bay Packers called the Philadelphia Eagles about trading retired QB Brett Favre.

:wtff:

If true, that's rather telling. It's obvious that the Eagles wouldn't have an interest but think about it. They won't trade him to the Vikes but they would trade him to the Eagles? Kinda indicates where some in the league think the Eagles chances are this year.

Umm...the PACKERS were the ones calling, so it means nothing. From what I understand, the Packers are probably calling just about everybody.This is NOT NEWS.

From what I read, the Eagles were the only NFC team they contacted. That may not be news but it IS interesting..

True, but Philly would be one of the few NFC teams you could reasonably argue fit two significant criteria:A: Many feel Philly to be a legit contender (one of Favre's criteria)

B: Most would feel that Favre would not present the Eagles with a significant QB upgrade (if an upgrade at all), like he would for most NFC teams.

From Green Bay's perspective, Philly would be the only NFC contender they could ship Favre too and be able to sleep at night knowing they didn't hurt their own SB chances.

So again...NOT NEWS. You're trying to read too much into this.

 

[BuddyKnuckles]

Now, andrews wants to redo his contract and may hold out

This is why i disagree with redoing Westy's contract. If the eagles front office backtracks on their policy, the line of players who want to redo their deals will stretch all they way down to Tony Luke's.

Three problems with that...1) Eagles re-did Westbrook's deal in 2005 under identical circumstances, there is already precedent and, by the way, doing so didn't cause every other player to ask for raises

2) We (hopefully) learned from the TO debacle that not all players and their contracts are created equal

3) Eagles have a long history of locking up players to long term deal preemptively.

All due respect JW, but you're wrong on the facts1) They didnt "redo" Westy's deal in '05, the added on an extension. It was a 5 year $23 mil extension with some bonus up front

2) I'm not talking about a circus and a bunch of guys throwing tantrums. I'm talking about a number of players (probably 10-15) on the Eagles who signed those extensions while relatively young. If they redo one guys contract, every single one of those guys has the leverage they need to hold out.

3) Right, the Eagles take the risk by signing young players to long term deals with guaranteed money. No one holds a gun to these guys heads and makes them sign the contract. If the player wants to assume the risk in exchange for a potentially big payday, all they have to do is not sign that extension.

The Eagles have created this situation by locking up the young players to long term extensions. Its a double edged sword, but if the front office reverses their field now, they'll fall on that sword.

 

[scratcher]

Andrews Update: Not His Contract, But Not Excused Updating what we posted earlier, Eagles coach Andy Reid confirms, through a team spokesman, that guard Shawn Andrews is absent from training camp for personal reasons. However, the Eagles did not say the absence is excused. That could mean Andrews will be fined. Teams can fine a player $15,000 a day and try to get back a prorated percentage of their signing bonus. Agent Rich Moran said the absence is not contract-related, refuting speculation on the Pro Football Talk website. Andrews missed the final week of minicamp in June, also for personal reasons. Teams tend to be more lenient about letting vets skip a little minicamp. The training camp reporting date does not tend to be flexible; it's kind of like April 15th to the IRS. All of Andrews' starting o-linemates are checked into the dorms by now. As we type, Jon Runyan is holding court for the cameras, leaning on the tailgate of his pickup. Runyan said he has not talked to Andrews. Todd Herremans, Jamaal Jackson and Tra Thomas just rolled up in Herreman's flat-black, retro Econoline van with huge tires. Iis this some new trend, like the pimped-out old boxy Impalas?) They had been to buy groceries. They unloaded a lot of Raisin Bran and a couple watermelons, but no Andrews. Still no Brian Westbrook or Lito Sheppard sighting, but we have more than two hours to the 7 p.m. deadline. That's about it for now. The gnats out here are really annoying.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles ae talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team.

Fill in the blanks.

 

[Bob Wiley]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles ae talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

Happy, happy, joy, joy. Anquan Boldin.

 

[ForWhoForWhat]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles ae talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

BRING ON BOLDIN!!!!!

 

[ForWhoForWhat]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles ae talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

BRING ON BOLDIN!!!!!

 

[Bob Wiley]

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[BuddyKnuckles]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles ae talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

BRING ON BOLDIN!!!!!

i know i've expressed pessimism about that certain someone before, but #### that...bring him on in!

 

[renesauz]

 

[None_More_Black]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles ae talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

That would be awesome. Any ideas on compensation? Lito + a third maybe?

 

[scratcher]

Sigh, as much as I would love Boldin, i'm not going to get my hopes up... they haven't been too successful in these WR talks.

 

[JaxBill]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles ae talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

That would be awesome. Any ideas on compensation? Lito + a third maybe?

I think any talks would include the extra first that the Eagles have next year.

 

[JaxBill]

Would the Eagles be willing to get involved with Boldin even though Rosenhaus is the agent involved?

 

[Bob Wiley]

Would the Eagles be willing to get involved with Boldin even though Rosenhaus is the agent involved?

To not get involved with Rosenhaus would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. He is the agent for many players, and to make an across the board decision to not involve yourself with his players would be detrimental to the team.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles are talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

That would be awesome. Any ideas on compensation? Lito + a third maybe?

I think any talks would include the extra first that the Eagles have next year.

That's what I'm hearing. Lito could be part of the deal, but I'm not sure he will be at this point.

 

[Bob Wiley]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles are talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

That would be awesome. Any ideas on compensation? Lito + a third maybe?

I think any talks would include the extra first that the Eagles have next year.

That's what I'm hearing. Lito could be part of the deal, but I'm not sure he will be at this point.

I'd give up the extra first in a red hot second. And if we could keep Lito that would be awesome.

 

[unckeyherb]

I'm getting reports that the Eagles are talking to a certain team about a certain WR who just cut off contract negoiations with his current team. Fill in the blanks.

That would be awesome. Any ideas on compensation? Lito + a third maybe?

I think any talks would include the extra first that the Eagles have next year.

That's what I'm hearing. Lito could be part of the deal, but I'm not sure he will be at this point.

omg, omg, omg.If they could snag Boldin and still keep Lito, Holy #####. I have tempered my excitement at these posts over the summer, but I'm back to being blindly optimistic.

 

[JaxBill]

Would the Eagles be willing to get involved with Boldin even though Rosenhaus is the agent involved?

To not get involved with Rosenhaus would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. He is the agent for many players, and to make an across the board decision to not involve yourself with his players would be detrimental to the team.

Oh, I agree 100 percent. But this IS Joe Banner and Andy Reid we're talking about....And if they give out a huge extension to Boldin, does this give Westbrook more ammunition?

 

[Bushead]

Would the Eagles be willing to get involved with Boldin even though Rosenhaus is the agent involved?

To not get involved with Rosenhaus would be cutting off your nose to spite your face. He is the agent for many players, and to make an across the board decision to not involve yourself with his players would be detrimental to the team.

Oh, I agree 100 percent. But this IS Joe Banner and Andy Reid we're talking about....And if they give out a huge extension to Boldin, does this give Westbrook more ammunition?

Does anyone know where exactly they stand with the cap right now? I thought I read it is around 17-19 mil. If that is the case, they could probably take care of both of them.

 

[E-A-G-L-E-S]

DR appreciate all your inside info and hope the Boldin thing happens

Do you know anything about the "personal issues" going on with Shawn Andrews?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

DR appreciate all your inside info and hope the Boldin thing happensDo you know anything about the "personal issues" going on with Shawn Andrews?

I know the Eagles are PISSED right now, but are trying to keep their cool in public. Word is that Reid is absolutely livid because Andrews just popped this on them out of no where.As for the Boldin thing, I wouldn't give a trade more than a 25% chance of happening, but it shows they are at least still trying.

 

[Bob Wiley]

DR appreciate all your inside info and hope the Boldin thing happens

Do you know anything about the "personal issues" going on with Shawn Andrews?

I know the Eagles are PISSED right now, but are trying to keep their cool in public. Word is that Reid is absolutely livid because Andrews just popped this on them out of no where.As for the Boldin thing, I wouldn't give a trade more than a 25% chance of happening, but it shows they are at least still trying.

And I'm guessing that as much as Andrews says it's not about the contract, it's probably all about the contract and nothing to do with personal issues.

 

[zadok]

WIP (Gargano) is reporting Andrews almost TRADED yesterday...

Will be getting into it in the next few minutes - tune in if you can...

 

[Bushead]

WIP (Gargano) is reporting Andrews almost TRADED yesterday...Will be getting into it in the next few minutes - tune in if you can...

listening, he is supposed to go over what he knows after the break

 

[Bushead]

WIP (Gargano) is reporting Andrews almost TRADED yesterday...Will be getting into it in the next few minutes - tune in if you can...

listening, he is supposed to go over what he knows after the break

They are confirming much of what DH has already put out there.Eagles were blindsided by this. Injury last year really scared Andrews, thought it was career threatening. Andrews is speaking to his agent tomorrow. Eagles do not currently know what his issue is, contract, personal or other. Yesterday they were considering trading him. Nothing else of interst, talking about the OL right now and how this could kill any depth they have.

 

[zadok]

That was mercifully disapointing. Basically the Eagles have no idea what his problem is, and he will be meeting with his agent tomorrow. We assume that the team will get filled in after that. Gargano also doesn't think it is contractual. The trade question was said to be an "emotional" reaction late last night by the brass. Apparently Andrews has a long list of antics...