** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (2 Viewers)

[TheLastDispatch]

Taylor seems a little old for the Eagles taste. But I'd love to have him (at a reasonable price)

 

[eoMMan]

Per Rotoworld:

Larry Fitzgerald - WR Mar. 2 - 9:43 pm et A source tells the Trenton Times that the Eagles and Cardinals had talks about a trade that would send Larry Fitzgerald to Philadelphia.The source calls Arizona's asking price "absurd." The Birds should consider courting D.J. Hackett. Having played for Mike Holmgren, he'd have a good grasp of the offense Andy Reid runs and could add size and downfield ability.Source: Trenton Times Related: D.J. Hackett, Eagles

D.J. Hackett doesn't excite me at all. I want to see the Eagles with a big time WR, like Fitz or Moss.....I'd settle for JWalker.

 

[Jason Wood]

Per Rotoworld:

Larry Fitzgerald - WR Mar. 2 - 9:43 pm et A source tells the Trenton Times that the Eagles and Cardinals had talks about a trade that would send Larry Fitzgerald to Philadelphia.The source calls Arizona's asking price "absurd." The Birds should consider courting D.J. Hackett. Having played for Mike Holmgren, he'd have a good grasp of the offense Andy Reid runs and could add size and downfield ability.Source: Trenton Times Related: D.J. Hackett, Eagles

D.J. Hackett doesn't excite me at all. I want to see the Eagles with a big time WR, like Fitz or Moss.....I'd settle for JWalker.

The Eagles are already out of the Walker negotiations, supposedly. I too am NOT a fan of Hackett. Talk about a guy that can't stay on the field.

 

[zadok]

I Hackett.

On this team though??? Dunno.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Soooooo how would you guys like Jason Taylor in a Birds uniform? Nothing concrete yet, just inquiries.....

Focus on Fitz..... Focus....

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

Per Rotoworld:

Larry Fitzgerald - WR Mar. 2 - 9:43 pm et A source tells the Trenton Times that the Eagles and Cardinals had talks about a trade that would send Larry Fitzgerald to Philadelphia.The source calls Arizona's asking price "absurd." The Birds should consider courting D.J. Hackett. Having played for Mike Holmgren, he'd have a good grasp of the offense Andy Reid runs and could add size and downfield ability.Source: Trenton Times Related: D.J. Hackett, Eagles

D.J. Hackett doesn't excite me at all. I want to see the Eagles with a big time WR, like Fitz or Moss.....I'd settle for JWalker.

I wonder what the definition of "absurd" is here - They asking for 2 #1's and Lito? Do the Eagles consider Lito and the 19 "absurd", because I centainly don't.

 

[dotman]

Per Rotoworld:

Larry Fitzgerald - WR Mar. 2 - 9:43 pm et A source tells the Trenton Times that the Eagles and Cardinals had talks about a trade that would send Larry Fitzgerald to Philadelphia.The source calls Arizona's asking price "absurd." The Birds should consider courting D.J. Hackett. Having played for Mike Holmgren, he'd have a good grasp of the offense Andy Reid runs and could add size and downfield ability.Source: Trenton Times Related: D.J. Hackett, Eagles

D.J. Hackett doesn't excite me at all. I want to see the Eagles with a big time WR, like Fitz or Moss.....I'd settle for JWalker.

I wonder what the definition of "absurd" is here - They asking for 2 #1's and Lito? Do the Eagles consider Lito and the 19 "absurd", because I centainly don't.

I would say #19 and Lito is high, but not absurd. And with Lito being expendable I'd say do that #### in a heartbeat!!!

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Per Rotoworld:

Larry Fitzgerald - WR Mar. 2 - 9:43 pm et A source tells the Trenton Times that the Eagles and Cardinals had talks about a trade that would send Larry Fitzgerald to Philadelphia.The source calls Arizona's asking price "absurd." The Birds should consider courting D.J. Hackett. Having played for Mike Holmgren, he'd have a good grasp of the offense Andy Reid runs and could add size and downfield ability.Source: Trenton Times Related: D.J. Hackett, Eagles

D.J. Hackett doesn't excite me at all. I want to see the Eagles with a big time WR, like Fitz or Moss.....I'd settle for JWalker.

I wonder what the definition of "absurd" is here - They asking for 2 #1's and Lito? Do the Eagles consider Lito and the 19 "absurd", because I centainly don't.

I would say #19 and Lito is high, but not absurd. And with Lito being expendable I'd say do that #### in a heartbeat!!!

Bring me Fitzgerald and I really don't care if we don't have Pick #19.Take Eddie Royal in Round 2 and we'll be fine.

 

[renesauz]

Soooooo how would you guys like Jason Taylor in a Birds uniform? Nothing concrete yet, just inquiries.....

Focus on Fitz..... Focus....

SO, if we all concentrate hard on Fitz, maybe start a group chant, it will happen????

 

[Game Time]

Fitz! Fitz! Fitz! I'm concentrating!

 

[zadok]

I'm concentrating on breaking the will of the Cardinals front office....

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Per Rotoworld:

Larry Fitzgerald - WR Mar. 2 - 9:43 pm et A source tells the Trenton Times that the Eagles and Cardinals had talks about a trade that would send Larry Fitzgerald to Philadelphia.The source calls Arizona's asking price "absurd." The Birds should consider courting D.J. Hackett. Having played for Mike Holmgren, he'd have a good grasp of the offense Andy Reid runs and could add size and downfield ability.Source: Trenton Times Related: D.J. Hackett, Eagles

D.J. Hackett doesn't excite me at all. I want to see the Eagles with a big time WR, like Fitz or Moss.....I'd settle for JWalker.

I wonder what the definition of "absurd" is here - They asking for 2 #1's and Lito? Do the Eagles consider Lito and the 19 "absurd", because I centainly don't.

I would say #19 and Lito is high, but not absurd. And with Lito being expendable I'd say do that #### in a heartbeat!!!

The 'Johan Santana' principle is in effect here though: You still have to sign this guy to a contract to bring him here and give up what the CCards want. All things I've heard is Fitz has been VERY stubborn about the money already left on his contract that he's 'earned' in his mind by reaching his incentives. The dude is owed more than 32 million bucks in these next TWO years. He is not willing to give that up.When you couple this with the fact you also have to give up Lito and 1.19, well, that is an 'absurd' amount.

 

[dotman]

Per Rotoworld:

Larry Fitzgerald - WR Mar. 2 - 9:43 pm et A source tells the Trenton Times that the Eagles and Cardinals had talks about a trade that would send Larry Fitzgerald to Philadelphia.The source calls Arizona's asking price "absurd." The Birds should consider courting D.J. Hackett. Having played for Mike Holmgren, he'd have a good grasp of the offense Andy Reid runs and could add size and downfield ability.Source: Trenton Times Related: D.J. Hackett, Eagles

D.J. Hackett doesn't excite me at all. I want to see the Eagles with a big time WR, like Fitz or Moss.....I'd settle for JWalker.

I wonder what the definition of "absurd" is here - They asking for 2 #1's and Lito? Do the Eagles consider Lito and the 19 "absurd", because I centainly don't.

I would say #19 and Lito is high, but not absurd. And with Lito being expendable I'd say do that #### in a heartbeat!!!

The 'Johan Santana' principle is in effect here though: You still have to sign this guy to a contract to bring him here and give up what the CCards want. All things I've heard is Fitz has been VERY stubborn about the money already left on his contract that he's 'earned' in his mind by reaching his incentives. The dude is owed more than 32 million bucks in these next TWO years. He is not willing to give that up.When you couple this with the fact you also have to give up Lito and 1.19, well, that is an 'absurd' amount.

Right, I get that, and I can't say I blame Fitz. They offered him the deal and he went out and produced, so he deserves to get paid. You'd think he would want to go to a winning organization but who knows what his priorities are. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed.

 

[Chunky Soup]

:fitz:

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I Hackett. On this team though??? Dunno.

Same. I love Hackett, just not in Eagles green. He's great when he's on the field, but I don't want the gamble that he won't be on the field.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Here's some updates, you guys aren't gonna like any of them:

Moss: They went HARD after Moss (read my comments in the Philly/Moss thread) because they consider Fitz almost a dead issue.

Fitz: Where it was Fitz's reluctance to renegoiate his deal before that was the major stumbling block, now it's the Eagles. They seem totally unwilling to give up their first along with either Lito or another pick (Cards have cooled on Lito and seem to want picks now).

Jason Taylor: Never got past the initial inquiry.

Jared Allen: It seems this had more legs than I was initially told. They actually discussed picks to go along with Lito, but nothing as absurd as the initial reports.

Roy Williams: He seems to be plan 'C', but they are no where near enamored with Roy as they were with Fitz and Moss. They basically see him as the WR version of Lito: all the talent in the world, can't stay healthy. If anything happened here, it'll be closer to the draft. As with Lito, it doesn't appear any NFL teams are willing to throw the picks at the Lions that they tought they'd get.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Here's some updates, you guys aren't gonna like any of them:Moss: They went HARD after Moss (read my comments in the Philly/Moss thread) because they consider Fitz almost a dead issue.Fitz: Where it was Fitz's reluctance to renegoiate his deal before that was the major stumbling block, now it's the Eagles. They seem totally unwilling to give up their first along with either Lito or another pick (Cards have cooled on Lito and seem to want picks now). Jason Taylor: Never got past the initial inquiry.Jared Allen: It seems this had more legs than I was initially told. They actually discussed picks to go along with Lito, but nothing as absurd as the initial reports. Roy Williams: He seems to be plan 'C', but they are no where near enamored with Roy as they were with Fitz and Moss. They basically see him as the WR version of Lito: all the talent in the world, can't stay healthy. If anything happened here, it'll be closer to the draft. As with Lito, it doesn't appear any NFL teams are willing to throw the picks at the Lions that they tought they'd get.

And thats why I believe Roy Williams makes the most sense. As for it being plan C, I believe that just got moved up to plan A.

 

[zadok]

Here's some updates, you guys aren't gonna like any of them:Moss: They went HARD after Moss (read my comments in the Philly/Moss thread) because they consider Fitz almost a dead issue.Fitz: Where it was Fitz's reluctance to renegoiate his deal before that was the major stumbling block, now it's the Eagles. They seem totally unwilling to give up their first along with either Lito or another pick (Cards have cooled on Lito and seem to want picks now). Jason Taylor: Never got past the initial inquiry.Jared Allen: It seems this had more legs than I was initially told. They actually discussed picks to go along with Lito, but nothing as absurd as the initial reports. Roy Williams: He seems to be plan 'C', but they are no where near enamored with Roy as they were with Fitz and Moss. They basically see him as the WR version of Lito: all the talent in the world, can't stay healthy. If anything happened here, it'll be closer to the draft. As with Lito, it doesn't appear any NFL teams are willing to throw the picks at the Lions that they tought they'd get.

And thats why I believe Roy Williams makes the most sense. As for it being plan C, I believe that just got moved up to plan A.

 

[ThePassion]

"ESPN Reports: Coming from a very reliable source within the Eagles' organization, within the next 24 to 48 hours Lito Sheppard will be shipped to the St. Louis Rams along with the 19th Pick in the 2008 draft for Rams' wideout Torry Holt. The 31-year old Holt, going into his 10th NFL season, had a very impressive 2007 season. He finished with 93 receptions for 1,189 yards and 7 touchdowns. This addition will vastly improve a struggling Eagles' wide receiving corps."

http://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=53679

Buddy at work announces this so I asked for a link......... just to add to the rumors!

I'd prob put Holt at the bottom of the list behind Roy and Fitzy. Nevertheless, I probably would be happy with Holt in Philly, the knee injury is a major concern.

Quick Edit - just realized that it states 19th pick, which I don't see b/c they won't give that up for Fitzy... so why give it up for Holt???

 

[zadok]

I've got to believe the Lions would be calling the Eagles right now to get this deal...

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

"ESPN Reports: Coming from a very reliable source within the Eagles' organization, within the next 24 to 48 hours Lito Sheppard will be shipped to the St. Louis Rams along with the 19th Pick in the 2008 draft for Rams' wideout Torry Holt. The 31-year old Holt, going into his 10th NFL season, had a very impressive 2007 season. He finished with 93 receptions for 1,189 yards and 7 touchdowns. This addition will vastly improve a struggling Eagles' wide receiving corps."

http://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=53679

Buddy at work announces this so I asked for a link......... just to add to the rumors!

I'd prob put Holt at the bottom of the list behind Roy and Fitzy. Nevertheless, I probably would be happy with Holt in Philly, the knee injury is a major concern.

If this happens I will vomit all over my desk

 

[JaxBill]

The Holt deal wouldn't make any sense. The Eagles supposedly aren't willing to package a first and Lito for 26 year old Larry Fitz but will do it for 31-year old Holt? That doens't seem very joe Banner-like.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

The Holt deal wouldn't make any sense. The Eagles supposedly aren't willing to package a first and Lito for 26 year old Larry Fitz but will do it for 31-year old Holt? That doens't seem very joe Banner-like.

I would hate this deal. I would like to see Holt here but not for that price.

 

[zadok]

Where is ESPN reporting this?

 

[JAA]

"ESPN Reports: Coming from a very reliable source within the Eagles' organization, within the next 24 to 48 hours Lito Sheppard will be shipped to the St. Louis Rams along with the 19th Pick in the 2008 draft for Rams' wideout Torry Holt. The 31-year old Holt, going into his 10th NFL season, had a very impressive 2007 season. He finished with 93 receptions for 1,189 yards and 7 touchdowns. This addition will vastly improve a struggling Eagles' wide receiving corps."

http://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=53679

Buddy at work announces this so I asked for a link......... just to add to the rumors!

I'd prob put Holt at the bottom of the list behind Roy and Fitzy. Nevertheless, I probably would be happy with Holt in Philly, the knee injury is a major concern.

Quick Edit - just realized that it states 19th pick, which I don't see b/c they won't give that up for Fitzy... so why give it up for Holt???

no chance

 

[eoMMan]

Yeah, Holt is still pretty good, but I'd be suprised that they would pay that much for a 31 year old wide out (I know, I know....they did with TO.)

Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Roy Williams here. At this point in their careers, I think I'd actually prefer the younger Williams to the older Holt.

Of course, Fitz or Moss would have been A LOT better, but oh well.

 

[JAA]

Yeah, Holt is still pretty good, but I'd be suprised that they would pay that much for a 31 year old wide out (I know, I know....they did with TO.)Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing Roy Williams here. At this point in their careers, I think I'd actually prefer the younger Williams to the older Holt.Of course, Fitz or Moss would have been A LOT better, but oh well.

they didnt pay a 1st round pick for TO, thank was the original issue with the Ravens trading for him. Bal gave a 2nd and Phi would only offer a 3rd.

 

[LILB811]

Fitz: Where it was Fitz's reluctance to renegoiate his deal before that was the major stumbling block, now it's the Eagles. They seem totally unwilling to give up their first along with either Lito or another pick (Cards have cooled on Lito and seem to want picks now).

First I just want to say that everything you have provided has been very informative and seems very credible. But this part really makes no sense to me from a front office perspective. If the team was willing to go out and pay more than the 9 million a year (we’re not sure exactly how much) Moss got from the Pats, and he’s 31, why are they not willing to give Fitz a long term deal when he is much younger for that amount of money? I realize signing a guy via free agency is preferred because the team doesn’t have to give up anything in return, but if the deal is on the table I don’t see how you don’t make it.Even if the Cardinals only want draft picks, Lito can be traded to another team to accumulate draft picks back. Many teams could use a corner, and I’m sure they can get something pretty good in return. Why would the team not be willing to make a deal to get Fitz? I’m not saying that your information is incorrect, I just don’t understand why the team would feel it would not be worth it to bring this guy in.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

"ESPN Reports: Coming from a very reliable source within the Eagles' organization, within the next 24 to 48 hours Lito Sheppard will be shipped to the St. Louis Rams along with the 19th Pick in the 2008 draft for Rams' wideout Torry Holt. The 31-year old Holt, going into his 10th NFL season, had a very impressive 2007 season. He finished with 93 receptions for 1,189 yards and 7 touchdowns. This addition will vastly improve a struggling Eagles' wide receiving corps."

http://forums.rotoworld.com/index.php?showtopic=53679

Buddy at work announces this so I asked for a link......... just to add to the rumors!

I'd prob put Holt at the bottom of the list behind Roy and Fitzy. Nevertheless, I probably would be happy with Holt in Philly, the knee injury is a major concern.

Quick Edit - just realized that it states 19th pick, which I don't see b/c they won't give that up for Fitzy... so why give it up for Holt???

I have not heard about this and I'm getting dumped into my buddy's VM. I know this was not on the table as of last night.This rumor seems very odd though. This is almost exactly what ARI is asking for in a Fitz deal. Very, VERY odd. It has to be about $$$ and what Fitz is owed.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Fitz: Where it was Fitz's reluctance to renegoiate his deal before that was the major stumbling block, now it's the Eagles. They seem totally unwilling to give up their first along with either Lito or another pick (Cards have cooled on Lito and seem to want picks now).

First I just want to say that everything you have provided has been very informative and seems very credible. But this part really makes no sense to me from a front office perspective. If the team was willing to go out and pay more than the 9 million a year (we’re not sure exactly how much) Moss got from the Pats, and he’s 31, why are they not willing to give Fitz a long term deal when he is much younger for that amount of money? I realize signing a guy via free agency is preferred because the team doesn’t have to give up anything in return, but if the deal is on the table I don’t see how you don’t make it.Even if the Cardinals only want draft picks, Lito can be traded to another team to accumulate draft picks back. Many teams could use a corner, and I’m sure they can get something pretty good in return. Why would the team not be willing to make a deal to get Fitz? I’m not saying that your information is incorrect, I just don’t understand why the team would feel it would not be worth it to bring this guy in.

The best senario I can give you is Johan Santana. If he hit the open market, there would have been 10 teams bidding on him. But when you add picks and players to the deal, along with the Brinks truck of cash, well, it's not quite the no-brainer everyone is making it out to be.Am I helping you see their side a bit? I know it's tough as a fan to see this, but that's their mindset now. I do know they really want him, so all this can change if all their options dry up and that should be happening soon.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm with you Buddy Ball; Holt is a fine player but he's 31, has a bad back and it in the twilight of his career. If we're going to give up two starters to another team (Lito + 19th pick), I would prefer someone younger that could sign a long-term deal and contribute.

 

[Chunky Soup]

I'm with you Buddy Ball; Holt is a fine player but he's 31, has a bad back and it in the twilight of his career. If we're going to give up two starters to another team (Lito + 19th pick), I would prefer someone younger that could sign a long-term deal and contribute.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Hey look, a thread on Page 1 with no mention of Brett Favre!!!!

Wait..... dammit.

 

[JAA]

Best part about Lito is that he is so cheap we could keep if no value presents itself

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I'm with you Buddy Ball; Holt is a fine player but he's 31, has a bad back and it in the twilight of his career. If we're going to give up two starters to another team (Lito + 19th pick), I would prefer someone younger that could sign a long-term deal and contribute.

I agree, .Personally I think Holt's knee is closer to "degenerative" than anyone is admitting. He is a "gamer" but I don't think he plays 16 games this year and I doubt he lasts more than 2 years. Just my humble opinion. Dude is very tough, but to run and cut at those speeds you need 100% wheels.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

The 'Johan Santana' principle is in effect here though: You still have to sign this guy to a contract to bring him here and give up what the CCards want. All things I've heard is Fitz has been VERY stubborn about the money already left on his contract that he's 'earned' in his mind by reaching his incentives. The dude is owed more than 32 million bucks in these next TWO years. He is not willing to give that up.When you couple this with the fact you also have to give up Lito and 1.19, well, that is an 'absurd' amount.

See, I don't get this.What is wrong with giving Fitzgerald $80M over 7 years, with a $30M signing bonus and $2M guaranteed this year?That puts $32M in his pocket THIS YEAR - problem solved. The cap number would be about $6.5M for this year, a manageable number and still gets Fitz more money now. Seems win-win to me.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The 'Johan Santana' principle is in effect here though: You still have to sign this guy to a contract to bring him here and give up what the CCards want. All things I've heard is Fitz has been VERY stubborn about the money already left on his contract that he's 'earned' in his mind by reaching his incentives. The dude is owed more than 32 million bucks in these next TWO years. He is not willing to give that up.When you couple this with the fact you also have to give up Lito and 1.19, well, that is an 'absurd' amount.

See, I don't get this.What is wrong with giving Fitzgerald $80M over 7 years, with a $30M signing bonus and $2M guaranteed this year?That puts $32M in his pocket THIS YEAR - problem solved. The cap number would be about $6.5M for this year, a manageable number and still gets Fitz more money now. Seems win-win to me.

How many years does the signing bonus get spread out over? I thought it was 4 years.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

The 'Johan Santana' principle is in effect here though: You still have to sign this guy to a contract to bring him here and give up what the CCards want. All things I've heard is Fitz has been VERY stubborn about the money already left on his contract that he's 'earned' in his mind by reaching his incentives. The dude is owed more than 32 million bucks in these next TWO years. He is not willing to give that up.When you couple this with the fact you also have to give up Lito and 1.19, well, that is an 'absurd' amount.

See, I don't get this.What is wrong with giving Fitzgerald $80M over 7 years, with a $30M signing bonus and $2M guaranteed this year?That puts $32M in his pocket THIS YEAR - problem solved. The cap number would be about $6.5M for this year, a manageable number and still gets Fitz more money now. Seems win-win to me.

I'm just passing along the info.

 

[eoMMan]

At the very least, it's nice that they are TRYING to address the WR problem. Brown, Curtis, & Co. just aren't good enough. I think Brown and Curtis are good #2's and #3's, respectively, but they need that solid #1 that TO was when he was here.

 

[TCFF]

At the very least, it's nice that they are TRYING to address the WR problem. Brown, Curtis, & Co. just aren't good enough. I think Curtis and Brown are good #2's and #3's, respectively, but they need that solid #1 that TO was when he was here.

fixedCurtis is exactly what the Eagles brought him in to be: A great #2 that has sure hands, runs good routes, and has some deep speed. He caught 77 balls for over 1000 yards and 6 TDS, but he is tiny and could never be a #1. Brown was supposed to be a #1 guys, but he drops way to many balls, can't get open consistently and disappears in the redzone. If we bring someone else in and Brown is not involved in the trade I fully expect that Curtis will line up in the slot, but IMHO Curtis >>Brown and is not the Eagles problem.

 

[Jason Wood]

I too am encouraged that Philly appears willing to spare no expense to upgrade the WR position [particularly because I, like many of you, feared the TO debacle would forever sully their perspective on FAs]; but now that we know they have tried to sign Moss and inquired about Roy Williams and Larry Fitz; how disappointed will we be if they come away with no one?

I hope they don't "settle" for D.J. Hackett; who seems to be the guy dangling out there right now.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I'm with you Buddy Ball; Holt is a fine player but he's 31, has a bad back and it in the twilight of his career. If we're going to give up two starters to another team (Lito + 19th pick), I would prefer someone younger that could sign a long-term deal and contribute.

Don't want Holt here. I'd prefer someone under 30. I'd love to have Fitz, but it doesn't look like that's working out.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I too am encouraged that Philly appears willing to spare no expense to upgrade the WR position [particularly because I, like many of you, feared the TO debacle would forever sully their perspective on FAs]; but now that we know they have tried to sign Moss and inquired about Roy Williams and Larry Fitz; how disappointed will we be if they come away with no one?I hope they don't "settle" for D.J. Hackett; who seems to be the guy dangling out there right now.

I had this thought today - Cards trade Fitz to Philly for #19 and Lito, then Arizona signs Hackett.Sounds like everyone wins there.....

 

[JetMaxx]

Here's some updates, you guys aren't gonna like any of them:Moss: They went HARD after Moss (read my comments in the Philly/Moss thread) because they consider Fitz almost a dead issue.Fitz: Where it was Fitz's reluctance to renegoiate his deal before that was the major stumbling block, now it's the Eagles. They seem totally unwilling to give up their first along with either Lito or another pick (Cards have cooled on Lito and seem to want picks now). Jason Taylor: Never got past the initial inquiry.Jared Allen: It seems this had more legs than I was initially told. They actually discussed picks to go along with Lito, but nothing as absurd as the initial reports. Roy Williams: He seems to be plan 'C', but they are no where near enamored with Roy as they were with Fitz and Moss. They basically see him as the WR version of Lito: all the talent in the world, can't stay healthy. If anything happened here, it'll be closer to the draft. As with Lito, it doesn't appear any NFL teams are willing to throw the picks at the Lions that they tought they'd get.

Assuming that all of this and other info you post is legit(which every indication says that it is), your posting here is greatly appreciated!

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Everything I heard on Sirius today (in between the Favre ### kissing) was that there is no way the Cardinals can afford to keep Fitz at his current price tag. However they mentioned that the owner has said that if they cant get anything done they will just have to pay him his 32 million over the next two years.

I just can not see a team paying a WR this much money when they have so many other holes to fill and already have a very good #1 WR to fall back on.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Everything I heard on Sirius today (in between the Favre ### kissing) was that there is no way the Cardinals can afford to keep Fitz at his current price tag. However they mentioned that the owner has said that if they cant get anything done they will just have to pay him his 32 million over the next two years. I just can not see a team paying a WR this much money when they have so many other holes to fill and already have a very good #1 WR to fall back on.

The more I think about it, the more i believe the Eagles are following what the Mets did with the Twins (hate to keep using that example, but it fits) to get the price down. It's a dangerous game of chicken though and the Cards might not blink like the Twins did.

 

[delusional]

I think if Fitz was able to come to philly he would be glad to redo his deal. At least he has a chance of getting to the super bowl in philly compared to the cards. Just seems like he is forcing them to pay him & he knows it can't be done.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Everything I heard on Sirius today (in between the Favre ### kissing) was that there is no way the Cardinals can afford to keep Fitz at his current price tag. However they mentioned that the owner has said that if they cant get anything done they will just have to pay him his 32 million over the next two years. I just can not see a team paying a WR this much money when they have so many other holes to fill and already have a very good #1 WR to fall back on.

The more I think about it, the more i believe the Eagles are following what the Mets did with the Twins (hate to keep using that example, but it fits) to get the price down. It's a dangerous game of chicken though and the Cards might not blink like the Twins did.

Sorry, I don't follow baseball. Explain?

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Everything I heard on Sirius today (in between the Favre ### kissing) was that there is no way the Cardinals can afford to keep Fitz at his current price tag. However they mentioned that the owner has said that if they cant get anything done they will just have to pay him his 32 million over the next two years. I just can not see a team paying a WR this much money when they have so many other holes to fill and already have a very good #1 WR to fall back on.

The more I think about it, the more i believe the Eagles are following what the Mets did with the Twins (hate to keep using that example, but it fits) to get the price down. It's a dangerous game of chicken though and the Cards might not blink like the Twins did.

Not asking for insider info here...Do you think the Cards can afford to sink 32 million into Fitz over the next two years? Can they then franchise a WR who would then get the average of the top 5 WRs, one of them being at 17 million? I think the Cards have to do something and they have a team to work with. Somethings gonna give.

 

[redman]

Does anyone else think that Philly's failure to sign Moss essentially ensures McNabb's departure from the team next offseason?