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** Official ** Eagles 2008 Thread (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter Chunky Soup
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Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)Hint: We've got one for each fingerAll I can say about the Cowboys is 13Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
GoBirds
Footballguy
Romo's is the biggest choker in the league, sorry Tex.Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)Hint: We've got one for each fingerAll I can say about the Cowboys is 13Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
CiscoKid
Footballguy
I could see if you don't like his character, but I don't see how you can dispute that Chris Henry would be the best WR on the roster, probably before he even learned the system. I like Kevin Curtis and think he'll have a decent year, but the Eagles don't have anyone close to Henry's size and talent. As long as he wasn't suspended or in jail I think he would put up huge numbers on this team.
About half the reason I'd love the Eagles to go after Henry is because you know that he's going to wind up going to Dallas, and the last think I want to happen is to see them get another uber-talented scumbag. Ether watching Dallas doing it time and time again has finally worn me out or I’m simply reminiscing back to 2004 and thinking about what this team could do with a legitimate threat at wideout. In either case, I’d love them to take the chance on him and just cut him loose if he winds up in trouble again. Like I said, maybe he learned something from being cut and broke (but that’s probably just wishful thinking…).
Buddy Ball 2K3
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13 years since you last one a playoff game. HOW 'BOUT DEM COWBOYS!?JTM said:Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)Hint: We've got one for each fingerBuddy Ball 2K3 said:All I can say about the Cowboys is 13JTM said:Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
Bob Wiley
Footballguy
BuddyKnuckles said:you should follow the advice given in your own sig.JTM said:Briefly checking in on NFC East news...Bolden, camps, etc. You're a funny guy, Dad...awesomeness said:why would a Cowboy fan even look in this thread? Go home kid.JTM said:Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
Bob Wiley
Footballguy
What's with his hamstring? I hope he's not Donte Stallworth where his hamstring acts up 50% of the time. Actually, who am I kidding, I'd take Donte Stallworth back in a second.
CentralPA
Footballguy
I just hope he helps the ST along the lines of Devin Hester
and then we can see what he can do WR wise beyond that.
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Chunky Soup
Footballguy
I'm almost there in buying in. But can't we see something before with give him that? I hate to say it, but we've seen FredEx come and go, so let's just make sure we've got something different on our hands.
zadok
Footballguy
I'm not saying he's a star yet, just that he has the "quality" to be one. I felt the same thing when I saw Westbrook at his first training camp. He's the only other offensive player I've felt that way about (that we drafted) since McNabb - but that's just me, take it FWIW.
zadok
Footballguy
"DeSean Jackson runs across the middle, flying past tacklers and gets out of bounds. Any questions of how he can take a hit will have to wait til someone can catch him."
Today's practice blog
Today's practice blog
Zoomanji
Footballguy
mehhh, looks good in shorts. we already know how good these guys are 10:16 AM - Another red zone opportunity and Hank Baskett leaps up, catching the ball at its peak. Baskett could be a huge weapon to improve on the red zone efficiency.
10:14 AM - Play of the day candidate: Reggie Brown catches a 40-yard pass along the sideline.
9:53 AM - Correll Buckhalter runs hard, electing to go through a player than around them.
9:37 AM - Greg Lewis makes another nice diving catch.
9:35 AM - Fantastic move by Reggie Brown on Lito Sheppard, as Brown cuts back toward the ball and makes a catch.
FWIW- I hope you right about Jackson but all I see is a guy too small to be anything more than a slot guy. At this point, I'd settle for him being a decent PR.
Zoomanji
Footballguy
The original picture had them in shorts so I assumed..........
BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
I, for one, am looking forward to "Midget Lightning". The trio of Westbrook, Booker, and Jackson. It will be like 3 tiny blurs zipping around the field.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
The NFL is all about speed and the more the Eagles get the happier I am. IMO size is becoming less and less important.
zadok
Footballguy
nice
I love it!
massraider
Footballguy
Please don't take this as trolling, thought it was funny:
SHAWN FOR HIRE
Posted by Mike Florio on August 1, 2008, 1:53 p.m.
As the non-holdout holdout of Eagles guard Shawn Andrews continues (our sources are divided on whether it’s about money), a reader has pointed out to us that Andrews has a side business, which he might be using to help replace the $15,000-plus in daily fines he’s facing for not showing up for training camp.
Per his web site, Andrews is available for “speaking engagements, motivational weight loss appearances, ‘meet & greet’ events and endorsement opportunities.”
Andrews’ site explains that “Shawn is most likely to be available during the off-season, but there may also be potential opportunities during the football season on days off.” Or, as it turns out, while not attending training camp despite having a contract that runs through 2015.
The site likely hasn’t been updated in a while; the most recent entry on the “latest news” page is from January 2007.
http://shawnandrews73.com/hire.html
My favorite quote from the site:
Shawn Andrews now available for speaking engagements, motivational weight loss appearances, 'meet & greet' events and endorsement opportunities
SHAWN FOR HIRE
Posted by Mike Florio on August 1, 2008, 1:53 p.m.
As the non-holdout holdout of Eagles guard Shawn Andrews continues (our sources are divided on whether it’s about money), a reader has pointed out to us that Andrews has a side business, which he might be using to help replace the $15,000-plus in daily fines he’s facing for not showing up for training camp.
Per his web site, Andrews is available for “speaking engagements, motivational weight loss appearances, ‘meet & greet’ events and endorsement opportunities.”
Andrews’ site explains that “Shawn is most likely to be available during the off-season, but there may also be potential opportunities during the football season on days off.” Or, as it turns out, while not attending training camp despite having a contract that runs through 2015.
The site likely hasn’t been updated in a while; the most recent entry on the “latest news” page is from January 2007.
http://shawnandrews73.com/hire.html
My favorite quote from the site:
Shawn Andrews now available for speaking engagements, motivational weight loss appearances, 'meet & greet' events and endorsement opportunities
ForWhoForWhat
Footballguy
Just got back from the morning practice. Nice fan turnout, nice weather, great time.
A few thoughts/comments/observations. I'll keep these somewhat basic. I'm a huge Birds fan but not a master student of the game by any means.
McNabb looked like McNabb. He had some really nice throws and a few duds. He didn't try to force the ball, which was good to see. He connected beautifully with Curtis on an end zone bomb (40-50 yards) where Curtis was double covered but went up and caught it in between the two defenders and held on after a vicous hit.
Curtis looked good and caught everything thrown to him, though he struggled with separation. All of the receivers struggled with separation, which has been a thorn in the Eagles' side forever it seems.
Reggie Brown had a nice grab but dropped one ball and juggle caught another.
The WR I was most impressed with was Hank Baskett. He had two great catches in traffic, and got good separation. He has nice hands and no drops. I wouldn't be surprised if Hank is the 3rd receiver come game 1. Hank worked mostly from the slot, and looked good out there.
Lorenzo Booker looked real good. He is fast and shifty and made a great catch and run where he weaved through the LBs no problem and turned on the jets. I hope the Eagles find ways to get him the ball. Could help keep Westbrook fresh. Westbrook only did a few drills early on. I believe he has strepped throat, I heard someone say. Booker worked with the 1's after Westbrook left.
Buckhalter got some work and looked decent. Tony Hunt got a few reps and Moats rarely saw action. The RB depth chart is looking like Westy, Booker, Buckhalter. It's obvious Moats will be cut, but I could see Hunt being axed too. Shame to give up on a 3rd rounder so early.
The defense looked great. They got good pressure and blanketed the receivers for the most part. Hanson had a pick 6 off a deflected Kolb pass.
Kolb looked awesome in passing drills, he has a lot of zip on the ball and nice accuracy. With the D on the field, he didn't do as well. He tried to force too many balls, threw a few into double coverage where nothing was there.
Feeley looked like a 3rd stringer out there. Nothing special.
After Baskett and Booker, I'd say the next guy that impressed me was LJ. He got nice separation and caught everything thrown to him. He showed decent moves after the catch, showing speed and agility to get more YAC. I know he pulled up the other day with a calf injury, but nothing looked wrong with him at all today. If he can stay healthy, he should be able to help out McNabb a lot.
Schobel got hurt and limped off the field. Not sure what the issue was. I think the Eagles only hold 3 TE so his roster spot was probably already in jeopardy. I'm thinking they'll probably go with LJ, Celek, and perhaps Kris Wilson due to hsi versatility.
Akers kicked the ball well. Made 50 yarders no problem. Went a bit wide on a 60 yarder, but had the leg. Some rookie Richmond McGee was handling kickoffs and got it in the end zone all but once. I was surprised that Akers didnt do any kickoffs. Will McGee really make the team? With roster spots so tight, I'd be surprised if Reid kept a KO specialist.
King Dunlap is listed as 6'8" but looks 8'5". The guy is a giant and is built like a brickhouse. He actually worked on ST blocking on kick returns. It was funny to see a 6'8" guy out there doing that. Makes me think the coaching staff likes him and wants to find a roster spot for him.
Lastly, DeSean Jackson looked pretty decent. He caught some nice balls and showed good speed. He gave up on one play and the crowd got on him pretty hard. I had heard some reports of him being lazy, I hope that's not the case. Interestingly, he did not work from the slot, he was split out wide. He muffed a KO but then recovered. His specialty is supposed to be punt returns but they didn't practicve punts. I think that was for the afternoon session.
A few thoughts/comments/observations. I'll keep these somewhat basic. I'm a huge Birds fan but not a master student of the game by any means.
McNabb looked like McNabb. He had some really nice throws and a few duds. He didn't try to force the ball, which was good to see. He connected beautifully with Curtis on an end zone bomb (40-50 yards) where Curtis was double covered but went up and caught it in between the two defenders and held on after a vicous hit.
Curtis looked good and caught everything thrown to him, though he struggled with separation. All of the receivers struggled with separation, which has been a thorn in the Eagles' side forever it seems.
Reggie Brown had a nice grab but dropped one ball and juggle caught another.
The WR I was most impressed with was Hank Baskett. He had two great catches in traffic, and got good separation. He has nice hands and no drops. I wouldn't be surprised if Hank is the 3rd receiver come game 1. Hank worked mostly from the slot, and looked good out there.
Lorenzo Booker looked real good. He is fast and shifty and made a great catch and run where he weaved through the LBs no problem and turned on the jets. I hope the Eagles find ways to get him the ball. Could help keep Westbrook fresh. Westbrook only did a few drills early on. I believe he has strepped throat, I heard someone say. Booker worked with the 1's after Westbrook left.
Buckhalter got some work and looked decent. Tony Hunt got a few reps and Moats rarely saw action. The RB depth chart is looking like Westy, Booker, Buckhalter. It's obvious Moats will be cut, but I could see Hunt being axed too. Shame to give up on a 3rd rounder so early.
The defense looked great. They got good pressure and blanketed the receivers for the most part. Hanson had a pick 6 off a deflected Kolb pass.
Kolb looked awesome in passing drills, he has a lot of zip on the ball and nice accuracy. With the D on the field, he didn't do as well. He tried to force too many balls, threw a few into double coverage where nothing was there.
Feeley looked like a 3rd stringer out there. Nothing special.
After Baskett and Booker, I'd say the next guy that impressed me was LJ. He got nice separation and caught everything thrown to him. He showed decent moves after the catch, showing speed and agility to get more YAC. I know he pulled up the other day with a calf injury, but nothing looked wrong with him at all today. If he can stay healthy, he should be able to help out McNabb a lot.
Schobel got hurt and limped off the field. Not sure what the issue was. I think the Eagles only hold 3 TE so his roster spot was probably already in jeopardy. I'm thinking they'll probably go with LJ, Celek, and perhaps Kris Wilson due to hsi versatility.
Akers kicked the ball well. Made 50 yarders no problem. Went a bit wide on a 60 yarder, but had the leg. Some rookie Richmond McGee was handling kickoffs and got it in the end zone all but once. I was surprised that Akers didnt do any kickoffs. Will McGee really make the team? With roster spots so tight, I'd be surprised if Reid kept a KO specialist.
King Dunlap is listed as 6'8" but looks 8'5". The guy is a giant and is built like a brickhouse. He actually worked on ST blocking on kick returns. It was funny to see a 6'8" guy out there doing that. Makes me think the coaching staff likes him and wants to find a roster spot for him.
Lastly, DeSean Jackson looked pretty decent. He caught some nice balls and showed good speed. He gave up on one play and the crowd got on him pretty hard. I had heard some reports of him being lazy, I hope that's not the case. Interestingly, he did not work from the slot, he was split out wide. He muffed a KO but then recovered. His specialty is supposed to be punt returns but they didn't practicve punts. I think that was for the afternoon session.
Game Time
Footballguy
Kolb has looked awesome all of camp.... Baskett as well... He wears red contacts now... says it helps him see... reduces glare.. like wearing sunglasses/visor.... Says visors fog up and this elimiantes that.... I'll be there next week to keep you guys posted!
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zadok
Footballguy
More props for DeSean:
"DeSean Jackson WR/PR -- The second-round pick out of Cal drew the ire of head coach Andy Reid Tuesday for missing two days with a mild hamstring strain.
Low and behold, Jackson delivered a terrific day Wednesday, followed by another good one Thursday and all of a sudden finds himself running plays with the first-team offense.
Jackson has soft hands, knows what to do after the catch, has proven to be reliable in traffic and has a very good grasp of the West Coast offense.
Everyone is talking about Jackson making the majority of his impact on special teams in 2008, but he has been one of the team's top two wide receivers at Lehigh along with Kevin Curtis."
http://www.nj.com/eagles/times/index.ssf?/....xml&coll=5
"DeSean Jackson WR/PR -- The second-round pick out of Cal drew the ire of head coach Andy Reid Tuesday for missing two days with a mild hamstring strain.
Low and behold, Jackson delivered a terrific day Wednesday, followed by another good one Thursday and all of a sudden finds himself running plays with the first-team offense.
Jackson has soft hands, knows what to do after the catch, has proven to be reliable in traffic and has a very good grasp of the West Coast offense.
Everyone is talking about Jackson making the majority of his impact on special teams in 2008, but he has been one of the team's top two wide receivers at Lehigh along with Kevin Curtis."
http://www.nj.com/eagles/times/index.ssf?/....xml&coll=5
E-A-G-L-E-S
Footballguy
Les Bowen is on Daily News live right now reporting that Shawn Andrews is suffering from depression. He wants to come back, when not sure
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Wow...not even a Philly guy can respond to this quote? Forget about comparisons to McNabb, that's just hyperbole worthy of stripping you immediately of any credibility whatsoever. Fumbling one (1) field-goal snap as a holder in his 9th NFL game warrants this quote? Have you watched NFL football since?--you sure you're not confused with Tommy Romo of the Arena League? I'm not ready to put him in the Hall, but my goodness, let's keep these forums educated and enlightening.Would you really take McNabb over Romo? Seriously. I've dropped the act and I'm now asking a serious question--Romo or McNabb?Romo's is the biggest choker in the league, sorry Tex.Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)Hint: We've got one for each fingerAll I can say about the Cowboys is 13Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
Oh, you mean twelve (12)? Don't teach math or grammar in Philly? You're right...it's absolutely been a tough run as of late, but I feel pretty good about our current direction. Last year would've been different if we had just one (1) Irvin-esque personality on the field. Looking for that feerless, outspoken gamer this year, too...13 years since you last one a playoff game. HOW 'BOUT DEM COWBOYS!?Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)All I can say about the Cowboys is 13Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
Hint: We've got one for each finger
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Deranged Hermit
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What a stupid question, Romo is 5 years younger than McNabb. If you're saying the McNabb of 5 years ago or Romo, I say McNabb. If you say current day McNabb or Romo, than the answer's clearly Romo.GB Cowboys fans talking smack when they haven't won a playoff game since the first George Bush was in office.......Wow...not even a Philly guy can respond to this quote? Forget about comparisons to McNabb, that's just hyperbole worthy of stripping you immediately of any credibility whatsoever. Fumbling one (1) field-goal snap as a holder in his 9th NFL game warrants this quote? Have you watched NFL football since?--you sure you're not confused with Tommy Romo of the Arena League? I'm not ready to put him in the Hall, but my goodness, let's keep these forums educated and enlightening.Would you really take McNabb over Romo? Seriously. I've dropped the act and I'm now asking a serious question--Romo or McNabb?Romo's is the biggest choker in the league, sorry Tex.Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)Hint: We've got one for each fingerAll I can say about the Cowboys is 13Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
Hmmm...maybe another year of Romo is needed prior to this discussion, though I appreciate you bringing that angle to light. Unfortunately you followed up your point with nonsense--during H's run we were winning championships. You must mean Clinton. So no math, grammar, history OR political science taught in Philly?What a stupid question, Romo is 5 years younger than McNabb. If you're saying the McNabb of 5 years ago or Romo, I say McNabb. If you say current day McNabb or Romo, than the answer's clearly Romo.GB Cowboys fans talking smack when they haven't won a playoff game since the first George Bush was in office.......Wow...not even a Philly guy can respond to this quote? Forget about comparisons to McNabb, that's just hyperbole worthy of stripping you immediately of any credibility whatsoever. Fumbling one (1) field-goal snap as a holder in his 9th NFL game warrants this quote? Have you watched NFL football since?--you sure you're not confused with Tommy Romo of the Arena League? I'm not ready to put him in the Hall, but my goodness, let's keep these forums educated and enlightening.Would you really take McNabb over Romo? Seriously. I've dropped the act and I'm now asking a serious question--Romo or McNabb?Romo's is the biggest choker in the league, sorry Tex.Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)All I can say about the Cowboys is 13Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
Hint: We've got one for each finger
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Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Oh, you mean twelve (12)? Don't teach math or grammar in Philly?
You're right...it's absolutely been a tough run as of late, but I feel pretty good about our current direction. Last year would've been different if we had just one (1) Irvin-esque personality on the field. Looking for that feerless, outspoken gamer this year, too...
Spell check, Tex.
(But I don't want to get in the middle of a syntax war on a football site)
Granted, the Cowboys look better on paper this year. However, over the last month of 2007 I can easily say Philly was playing better football. Too bad they were 4-8 before that...
The hope (for me) is that a healthier team (McNabb, LJ, etc...) a few upgrades within the DB and DE corps (Samuel, Clemons), and a few new acquisitions bringing speed to the offense and special teams (Booker, Jackson) help to keep that year end momentum going.
just my .02
You're right...it's absolutely been a tough run as of late, but I feel pretty good about our current direction. Last year would've been different if we had just one (1) Irvin-esque personality on the field. Looking for that feerless, outspoken gamer this year, too...
Spell check, Tex.
(But I don't want to get in the middle of a syntax war on a football site)Granted, the Cowboys look better on paper this year. However, over the last month of 2007 I can easily say Philly was playing better football. Too bad they were 4-8 before that...
The hope (for me) is that a healthier team (McNabb, LJ, etc...) a few upgrades within the DB and DE corps (Samuel, Clemons), and a few new acquisitions bringing speed to the offense and special teams (Booker, Jackson) help to keep that year end momentum going.
just my .02
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Mighty Mice
Footballguy
Back on point, any insiders see how the D-Line rotation is looking in camp? I know Victor hurt his wrist, so we should have Cole, Howard, Clemons, McDougle at end? How does Laws look at DT; perhaps a good backup to Patterson/Bunkley?
Any early thoughts on the D-Line depth chart?
Any early thoughts on the D-Line depth chart?
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Granted, the Cowboys look better on paper this year. However, over the last month of 2007 I can easily say Philly was playing better football. Too bad they were 4-8 before that...
The hope (for me) is that a healthier team (McNabb, LJ, etc...) a few upgrades within the DB and DE corps (Samuel, Clemons), and a few new acquisitions bringing speed to the offense and special teams (Booker, Jackson) help to keep that year end momentum going.
Here, here M&M
We were less than creative on offense the last month of the season for sure, but I'm not sure you can use the word 'easy' in your statement--meaningless wins against NO and BUF and a 3-1 record shouldn't constitute 'easy' versus our 2-2 record and a meaningless loss in WAS in week 17. We looked sloppy and skated past some scrubs, but y'all didn't exactly dominate playoff squads.
More importantly, what would you be willing to give for Steve Smith now that he's in the rumor mill? We have an extra 3rd and 4th next year, but we don't have a carrot like Lito...at least I'd prefer we not deal any of our NFL-ready talent. I'd do a 1st and 3rd to create Romo/Barbarian/TO/Smith/Witten...maybe Smith is Irvin-esque but with a sucker-punching right-cross.
The hope (for me) is that a healthier team (McNabb, LJ, etc...) a few upgrades within the DB and DE corps (Samuel, Clemons), and a few new acquisitions bringing speed to the offense and special teams (Booker, Jackson) help to keep that year end momentum going.
Here, here M&M
We were less than creative on offense the last month of the season for sure, but I'm not sure you can use the word 'easy' in your statement--meaningless wins against NO and BUF and a 3-1 record shouldn't constitute 'easy' versus our 2-2 record and a meaningless loss in WAS in week 17. We looked sloppy and skated past some scrubs, but y'all didn't exactly dominate playoff squads.
More importantly, what would you be willing to give for Steve Smith now that he's in the rumor mill? We have an extra 3rd and 4th next year, but we don't have a carrot like Lito...at least I'd prefer we not deal any of our NFL-ready talent. I'd do a 1st and 3rd to create Romo/Barbarian/TO/Smith/Witten...maybe Smith is Irvin-esque but with a sucker-punching right-cross.
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Mighty Mice
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Ending the season 3-0, with wins at Dallas in week 14 (fighting for homefield) and at New Orleans in wk 15 (7-7 at the time, fighting for playoffs) are not meaningless. At the end of the year, Philly was a hotter team than many who did make the playoffs. Unfortunately, 8-8 is what it is. BTW: Dallas lost 3 of their last 4, scoring 49 points over those 4 games. (12.25 ppg) This from a team whose WEEKLY LOW SCORE was 24 preceding this point! Less creative? Sloppy? That's being generous; worse could be said than sloppy or less than creative. I have no idea what that portends. I do know the presumptive division favorite fell back to earth very had and very fast last year. The presumptive doormat, which many lable Philly as, did not.Granted, the Cowboys look better on paper this year. However, over the last month of 2007 I can easily say Philly was playing better football. Too bad they were 4-8 before that...
The hope (for me) is that a healthier team (McNabb, LJ, etc...) a few upgrades within the DB and DE corps (Samuel, Clemons), and a few new acquisitions bringing speed to the offense and special teams (Booker, Jackson) help to keep that year end momentum going.
Here, here M&M
We were less than creative on offense the last month of the season for sure, but I'm not sure you can use the word 'easy' in your statement--meaningless wins against NO and BUF and a 3-1 record shouldn't constitute 'easy' versus our 2-2 record and a meaningless loss in WAS in week 17. We looked sloppy and skated past some scrubs, but y'all didn't exactly dominate playoff squads.
More importantly, what would you be willing to give for Steve Smith now that he's in the rumor mill? We have an extra 3rd and 4th next year, but we don't have a carrot like Lito...at least I'd prefer we not deal any of our NFL-ready talent. I'd do a 1st and 3rd to create Romo/Barbarian/TO/Smith/Witten...maybe Smith is Irvin-esque but with a sucker-punching right-cross.
Fun Stat: Romo is 5-5 in starts against NFC East division opponents (1-2 against Philly). Not sure what that means, but for a guy 19-8 overall as a starter, that's surprisingly poor. The 0-2 playoff record is pretty poor also. So you ask: McNabb vs. Romo....Hmmmm....not sold on Romo. Have to stick with McNabb at the same point of thier careers as the better option. How much does he have left? We'll see.
In regards to Smith - Why would Carolina move Smith for a 1st and 3rd, with a coaching staff on the hot seat? Carolina (John Fox) needs to WIN NOW. Part of the reason he was willing to give up some of the future to fill out the line this year. Can't see him being moved. At least not for draft picks.
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GoBirds
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Has Tony Homo even won a playoff game? McNabb is no Montana but Romo has done NOTHING in this league except a good regular season then hold his team hostage in the playoffs.Wow...not even a Philly guy can respond to this quote? Forget about comparisons to McNabb, that's just hyperbole worthy of stripping you immediately of any credibility whatsoever. Fumbling one (1) field-goal snap as a holder in his 9th NFL game warrants this quote? Have you watched NFL football since?--you sure you're not confused with Tommy Romo of the Arena League? I'm not ready to put him in the Hall, but my goodness, let's keep these forums educated and enlightening.Would you really take McNabb over Romo? Seriously. I've dropped the act and I'm now asking a serious question--Romo or McNabb?Romo's is the biggest choker in the league, sorry Tex.Uhhh...oh, it's a game...JTM likey games. How about 13 wins in '07? Or...oh, Cowboy Super Bowl appearances + Super Bowl victories? Hmmm...oh, duh, the number of plays in a Super Bowl drive before McNabb pukes away a championship.That was easy. Here's one for you: zero (0)Hint: We've got one for each fingerAll I can say about the Cowboys is 13Given the talent level of the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys coupled with your front office's propensity to irritate and alienate it's most talented players...yes. Just shut down shop and take a vacation from the NFL for the next few years and save yourself the heartache.Just good, solid advice coming from a guy that regrets paying attention during the 'Gailey-Campo-Quincy Carter-Jerry as GM and sole decision maker' era of the Boys.Oooh, the Cowboys are sooo good we should just give up now.
Jeff Pasquino
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This is a good thread for Eagles fans and Eagles information.
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to those "other" boards.
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BuddyKnuckles
Footballguy
Thank you.Rumor on PFT is that the Panthers are "done" with S Smith and that they may be looking to trade him. Not sure he's an AR kind of guy, but he sure would help out our pathetic WRs.This is a good thread for Eagles fans and Eagles information.Take the
JaxBill
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Don't forget Juqua Parker (nee Thomas). Clemons is passing situations only, I assume. I'd be interested to hear about early impressions of Laws also.
He would, but I have trouble seeing anything happening here. Fox can't afford to let Smith go for one. For another, if he were to let him go, I don't see Philly offering more then a few other clubs out there because he's really not an ideal fit for the team. AR and Co. don't really like the head cases.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
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Think they'd take their 1st round pick back?He would, but I have trouble seeing anything happening here. Fox can't afford to let Smith go for one. For another, if he were to let him go, I don't see Philly offering more then a few other clubs out there because he's really not an ideal fit for the team. AR and Co. don't really like the head cases.Thank you.Rumor on PFT is that the Panthers are "done" with S Smith and that they may be looking to trade him. Not sure he's an AR kind of guy, but he sure would help out our pathetic WRs.This is a good thread for Eagles fans and Eagles information.Take the
Deranged Hermit
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LOL, I thought the exact same thing......Ted Lange as your Bartender said:Think they'd take their 1st round pick back?renesauz said:He would, but I have trouble seeing anything happening here. Fox can't afford to let Smith go for one. For another, if he were to let him go, I don't see Philly offering more then a few other clubs out there because he's really not an ideal fit for the team. AR and Co. don't really like the head cases.BuddyKnuckles said:Thank you.Rumor on PFT is that the Panthers are "done" with S Smith and that they may be looking to trade him. Not sure he's an AR kind of guy, but he sure would help out our pathetic WRs.Jeff Pasquino said:This is a good thread for Eagles fans and Eagles information.Take theto those "other" boards.
I'd rather keep theirs and send them ours!LOL, I thought the exact same thing......Ted Lange as your Bartender said:Think they'd take their 1st round pick back?renesauz said:He would, but I have trouble seeing anything happening here. Fox can't afford to let Smith go for one. For another, if he were to let him go, I don't see Philly offering more then a few other clubs out there because he's really not an ideal fit for the team. AR and Co. don't really like the head cases.BuddyKnuckles said:Thank you.Rumor on PFT is that the Panthers are "done" with S Smith and that they may be looking to trade him. Not sure he's an AR kind of guy, but he sure would help out our pathetic WRs.Jeff Pasquino said:This is a good thread for Eagles fans and Eagles information.Take the
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BuddyKnuckles
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Ted Lange as your Bartender said:Think they'd take their 1st round pick back?renesauz said:He would, but I have trouble seeing anything happening here. Fox can't afford to let Smith go for one. For another, if he were to let him go, I don't see Philly offering more then a few other clubs out there because he's really not an ideal fit for the team. AR and Co. don't really like the head cases.BuddyKnuckles said:Thank you.Rumor on PFT is that the Panthers are "done" with S Smith and that they may be looking to trade him. Not sure he's an AR kind of guy, but he sure would help out our pathetic WRs.Jeff Pasquino said:This is a good thread for Eagles fans and Eagles information.Take theto those "other" boards.
now that would be funnyi honestly dont see Smith being an Eagle, but its still nice to dream.
Mighty Mice
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OFFICIAL DEPTH CHART - RELEASED TUESDAY, AUGUST 5
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/assets/g...hart_080508.pdf
Interesting.
-King Dunlap backing up Tra, not Justice.
-Juqua Parker starting at LDE, not Howard. Not Clemons.
-Laws ahead of Kimo and Reagor on the depth chart
-Lito and Sheldon JOINT 1st string RCB
and many more!
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/assets/g...hart_080508.pdf
Interesting.
-King Dunlap backing up Tra, not Justice.
-Juqua Parker starting at LDE, not Howard. Not Clemons.
-Laws ahead of Kimo and Reagor on the depth chart
-Lito and Sheldon JOINT 1st string RCB
and many more!
JaxBill
Footballguy
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Clemons is a pass rush specialist. He's our version of Mark Anderson (CHI). 3rd down sack star, which I have no issues with at all.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
The coaching staff is really soured on the effort Reggie Brown is putting into camp. Hank Baskett is breathing down his neck to be the starter opposite Curtis.
That doesn't exactly match what Spadaro's been spewing. I thought Basket was having trouble getting past Avant (who supposedly is also having a solid camp)Similar threads
