***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (1 Viewer)

[UCONN]

Ok....time for me to admit it. I've had trouble navigating the 'Whatif' site. I've signed on as a member but haven't paid any money yet. I cannot find the player pool/salary list and I'm beginning to fear that I have a learning disability and or was dropped as a baby. Can someone please help me? TIA.

sign up for a "free league" and go into the draft center. you can look guys up from there. Good point on the money earlier as well by someone. It favors certain things but those things might not help your team as much as others. I'm sure you pay more for a HR than a SB, but getting the SB's at the right spot might help your team a heck of a lot more. Kind of like basketball, you'd proboably pay a lot of money for 5 Bernard Kings...I doubt you'd win much.

So are we operating under a salary cap?

no. Cappy has some kind of "hook up" where he can get around that w/ the guys that run the site. You get to use the guys 3rd best season salary wise (or any season w/ a salary lower than that I assume...something I'd do in some cases if it's an option) and there is no cap.

lol..not sure I'd call it a "hook-up", but I emailed the guys over there and they said they could drop the cap for our season.

Can we use the 4th, 5th, 6th, etc.... salary for our player?

we determined 3rd, only fair to stick to that.

Here it is.

That's fair then. Hell it's spelled out in the first post. If somebody didn't read it's not really Cappy's fault.

Says nothing about positions in that first post. This has never been discussed.

It says well be using 3rd best salary year in the sim....if you thought you'd get the gravy offensive numbers and mooch a guy over to a secondary defensive position you were really just trying to cheat the system....

A guy like Killabrew played most of his games at 1st, but in his third best salaried season (according to what if sports), he played the OF. So if I want to play the guy at first, his "natural position", I get penalized for that? And you want to lecture me on the "spirit of the draft" and "mooch"ing/"cheating"?

I just asked for clarification.

Ask Cappy. I'm just doing the best I can to help. Will go with the K.I.S.S. explanation I true to give myself. It is what it is...don't seem to be effecting too many people's picks all that much. I'll stay out of it though. Damn, the more I think of it the more I wish Gwynn would have slid a little farther. Damn good pick in this format.

 

[10993]

Ok....time for me to admit it. I've had trouble navigating the 'Whatif' site. I've signed on as a member but haven't paid any money yet. I cannot find the player pool/salary list and I'm beginning to fear that I have a learning disability and or was dropped as a baby. Can someone please help me? TIA.

sign up for a "free league" and go into the draft center. you can look guys up from there. Good point on the money earlier as well by someone. It favors certain things but those things might not help your team as much as others. I'm sure you pay more for a HR than a SB, but getting the SB's at the right spot might help your team a heck of a lot more. Kind of like basketball, you'd proboably pay a lot of money for 5 Bernard Kings...I doubt you'd win much.

So are we operating under a salary cap?

no. Cappy has some kind of "hook up" where he can get around that w/ the guys that run the site. You get to use the guys 3rd best season salary wise (or any season w/ a salary lower than that I assume...something I'd do in some cases if it's an option) and there is no cap.

lol..not sure I'd call it a "hook-up", but I emailed the guys over there and they said they could drop the cap for our season.

Can we use the 4th, 5th, 6th, etc.... salary for our player?

we determined 3rd, only fair to stick to that.

Here it is.

That's fair then. Hell it's spelled out in the first post. If somebody didn't read it's not really Cappy's fault.

Says nothing about positions in that first post. This has never been discussed.

It says well be using 3rd best salary year in the sim....if you thought you'd get the gravy offensive numbers and mooch a guy over to a secondary defensive position you were really just trying to cheat the system....

AKA the Mel Ott clause... which actually ends up working, because by coincidence, his third-salary season he was at 3B instead of in the outfield.

Edit: Though anyone facing Mel Ott in the voting portion would do well to point out he wasn't really a third baseman. Point is, even if you can work the sim, your fellow owners can hold you accountable to the voters.

The voting part of this thing is meaningless. I only care about the sim.

You should be drafting a lot differently then. If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week. And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless. There has to be some balance. If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

 

[10993]

I will say this... if one of my players for some random reason is not at their primary position during their third year (i.e. if Schmidt SOME how is at 1st base during his third highest salary year), I hope there is some fair way to go to the next best season, so he would be at 3B, where he should be and was drafted to be.Anyone? Not looking for any advantage, but dont want me, nor anyone else, to get screwed by a technicality, either.

Shouldn't you just get to have the guy at his natural position and not be penalized for a quirk in the salary rankings/rules for this? Talk about the "spirit of the draft"!

Then why should Pickles be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B? Is that the tradeoff, then?

 

[Koya]

I will say this... if one of my players for some random reason is not at their primary position during their third year (i.e. if Schmidt SOME how is at 1st base during his third highest salary year), I hope there is some fair way to go to the next best season, so he would be at 3B, where he should be and was drafted to be.Anyone? Not looking for any advantage, but dont want me, nor anyone else, to get screwed by a technicality, either.

Shouldn't you just get to have the guy at his natural position and not be penalized for a quirk in the salary rankings/rules for this? Talk about the "spirit of the draft"!

Nipsey, if Schmidt for example happens to be at 1B in his third highest WIS salary, you suggest that I should be penalized for playing him at 3B?

 

[lastresort66]

OF- Al Simmons

3rd best year: Hit .365/.398/.642 with 34 jacks and ranks A/A (fielding/range).

 

[Nipsey]

Ask Cappy. I'm just doing the best I can to help. Will go with the K.I.S.S. explanation I true to give myself. It is what it is...don't seem to be effecting too many people's picks all that much. I'll stay out of it though. Damn, the more I think of it the more I wish Gwynn would have slid a little farther. Damn good pick in this format.

I'm asking everybody. Why not just start guys at their natural positition and not be penalized for that? BTW..I appreciate your help, but don't need to be lectured....

 

[Koya]

If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week. And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless. There has to be some balance. If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I agree.

 

[Nipsey]

I will say this... if one of my players for some random reason is not at their primary position during their third year (i.e. if Schmidt SOME how is at 1st base during his third highest salary year), I hope there is some fair way to go to the next best season, so he would be at 3B, where he should be and was drafted to be.

Anyone? Not looking for any advantage, but dont want me, nor anyone else, to get screwed by a technicality, either.

Shouldn't you just get to have the guy at his natural position and not be penalized for a quirk in the salary rankings/rules for this? Talk about the "spirit of the draft"!

Nipsey, if Schmidt for example happens to be at 1B in his third highest WIS salary, you suggest that I should be penalized for playing him at 3B?

No, I'm saying you shouldn't be penalized.

 

[larry_boy_44]

MLB PLAYER DRAFTUpdated picks

ROUND ONE

1.1 pumpnick -- SP Walter Johnson

1.2 Spock -- SP Sandy Koufax

1.3 lastresort -- OF Babe Ruth

1.4 Capella -- OF Willie Mays

1.5 Nipsey -- SP CY Young

1.6 Sammy3469 --OF Ted Williams

1.7 Pickles -- 1B Lou Gehrig

1.8 Harrier -- OF Barry Bonds

1.9 Doug B -- OF Stan Musial

1.10 bogart -- 2B Rogers Hornsby

1.11 Koya -- P Lefty Grove

1.12 funkley -- OF Ty Cobb

1.13 Kraft -- OF Hank Aaron

1.14 UCONN -- OF Mickey Mantle

1.15 Spartans -- SS Honus Wagner

1.16 LarryBoy -- SP Christy Mathewson

2.1 Larryboy -- SP Roger Clemens

2.2 Spartans -- SP Pedro Martinez

2.3 UCONN -- OF Tris Speaker

2.4 Kraft -- OF Joltin' Joe DiMaggio

2.5 funkley -- 1B Jimmy Foxx

2.6 koya -- 3B Mike Schmidt

2.7 Bogart -- OF Rickey Henderson

2.8 Doug B -- SP Warren Spahn

2.9 Harrier -- SP Grover Cleveland Alexander

2.10 Pickles -- OF Frank Robinson

2.11 Sammy -- 3B Eddie Matthews

2.12 Nipsey -- 2B Joe Morgan

2.13 Capella -- 2B/3B/1B/OF Pete Rose

2.14 Last Resort - 2B Eddie Collins

2.15 Spock - SP Nolan Ryan

2.16 Pumpnick - 2B Nap Lajoie

3.1 pumpnick -- SP Greg Maddux

3.2 Spock -- SP Steve Carlton

3.3 lastresort -- 1B Mark McGwire

3.4 Capella -- SP Randy Johnson

3.5 Nipsey -- OF Joe Jackson

3.6 Sammy3469 -- SS/IB Ernie Banks

3.7 Pickles -- OF/3B Mel Ott

3.8 Harrier -- SP Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown

3.9 Doug B -- 3B George Brett

3.10 bogart -- OF Billy Hamilton

3.11 Koya -- SP Tom Seaver

3.12 funkley -- 3B Harmon Killebrew

3.13 Kraft -- SP Bob Gibson

3.14 UCONN -- 2B Jackie Robinson

3.15 Spartans -- SP Hal Newhouser

3.16 LarryBoy -- 1B Frank Thomas

4.01 LarryBoy -- 2B Charlie Gehringer

4.02 Spartans -- OF Carl Yastrzemski

4.03 UCONN -- SS Arky Vaughan

4.04 Kraft -- 1B George Sisler

4.05 Funkley -- SP Juan Marichal

4.06 Koya -- OF Ken Griffey Jr.

4.07 Bogart -- C Mickey Cochrane

4.08 Doug B -- OF Tim Raines

4.09 Harrier -- C Mike Piazza

4.10 Pickles -- C Yogi Berra

4.11 Sammy -- 2B Rod Carew

4.12 Nipsey -- 1B/OF Hank Greenberg

4.13 Capella -- OF Roberto Clemente

4.14 Lastresort -- 3B Wade Boggs

4.15 Spock -- 2B Frankie Frisch

4.16 Pumpnick -- OF Duke Snider

5.1 pumpnick -- SP Carl Hubbell

5.2 Spock -- OF Tony Gwynn

5.3 lastresort -- OF Al Simmons

5.4 Capella

5.5 Nipsey

5.6 Sammy3469

5.7 Pickles

5.8 Harrier

5.9 Doug B

5.10 bogart

5.11 Koya

5.12 funkley

5.13 Kraft

5.14 UCONN

5.15 Spartans

5.16 LarryBoy

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I will say this... if one of my players for some random reason is not at their primary position during their third year (i.e. if Schmidt SOME how is at 1st base during his third highest salary year), I hope there is some fair way to go to the next best season, so he would be at 3B, where he should be and was drafted to be.Anyone? Not looking for any advantage, but dont want me, nor anyone else, to get screwed by a technicality, either.

Shouldn't you just get to have the guy at his natural position and not be penalized for a quirk in the salary rankings/rules for this? Talk about the "spirit of the draft"!

Then why should Pickles be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B? Is that the tradeoff, then?

 

[Nipsey]

You should be drafting a lot differently then. If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week. And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless. There has to be some balance. If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I meant for the question of position eligibiltity, not the entire deal!

 

[UCONN]

Ask Cappy. I'm just doing the best I can to help. Will go with the K.I.S.S. explanation I true to give myself. It is what it is...don't seem to be effecting too many people's picks all that much. I'll stay out of it though. Damn, the more I think of it the more I wish Gwynn would have slid a little farther. Damn good pick in this format.

I'm asking everybody. Why not just start guys at their natural positition and not be penalized for that? BTW..I appreciate your help, but don't need to be lectured....

It's not a lecture...I'm just simple-minded and they seem like pretty obvious questions. Like I said, my views proboably don't equal the best answers if you're trying to get real technical...

 

[Koya]

I will say this... if one of my players for some random reason is not at their primary position during their third year (i.e. if Schmidt SOME how is at 1st base during his third highest salary year), I hope there is some fair way to go to the next best season, so he would be at 3B, where he should be and was drafted to be.

Anyone? Not looking for any advantage, but dont want me, nor anyone else, to get screwed by a technicality, either.

Shouldn't you just get to have the guy at his natural position and not be penalized for a quirk in the salary rankings/rules for this? Talk about the "spirit of the draft"!

Nipsey, if Schmidt for example happens to be at 1B in his third highest WIS salary, you suggest that I should be penalized for playing him at 3B?

No, I'm saying you shouldn't be penalized.

Man, you are tough to agree with Nips~I agree with you then. I would hope people would be understanding when it came to whatever sim we finally do, so it is a fair and reasonable playing field.

 

[UCONN]

Cappy, Nipsey, then Sammy...I could have copied and pasted it LB, add in round 5.

 

[10993]

You should be drafting a lot differently then. If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week. And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless. There has to be some balance. If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I meant for the question of position eligibiltity, not the entire deal!

But you have to decide then--should Pickles not be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B, as he only played that a small amount, and that small amount happened to coincide with his third-salaried year? I think that's a fine argument to make, I just don't see how it can be made after the rules have already been set, and people like Pickles, and me, have drafted according to them.

 

[Nipsey]

I will say this... if one of my players for some random reason is not at their primary position during their third year (i.e. if Schmidt SOME how is at 1st base during his third highest salary year), I hope there is some fair way to go to the next best season, so he would be at 3B, where he should be and was drafted to be.Anyone? Not looking for any advantage, but dont want me, nor anyone else, to get screwed by a technicality, either.

Shouldn't you just get to have the guy at his natural position and not be penalized for a quirk in the salary rankings/rules for this? Talk about the "spirit of the draft"!

Then why should Pickles be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B? Is that the tradeoff, then?

According to what I'm reading, Pickles has no choice of which position to play Mel Ott if he wants to use the highest (3rd) salary season for him. He can only play him at the position he played that year. If he doesn't, his guy will not be as good defensively. I think that's unfair is all I'm saying.

 

[UCONN]

You should be drafting a lot differently then.  If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week.  And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless.  There has to be some balance.  If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I meant for the question of position eligibiltity, not the entire deal!

But you have to decide then--should Pickles not be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B, as he only played that a small amount, and that small amount happened to coincide with his third-salaried year? I think that's a fine argument to make, I just don't see how it can be made after the rules have already been set, and people like Pickles, and me, have drafted according to them.

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear. This is the side I'd take too. LB

 

[Nipsey]

You should be drafting a lot differently then.  If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week.  And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless.  There has to be some balance.  If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I meant for the question of position eligibiltity, not the entire deal!

But you have to decide then--should Pickles not be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B, as he only played that a small amount, and that small amount happened to coincide with his third-salaried year? I think that's a fine argument to make, I just don't see how it can be made after the rules have already been set, and people like Pickles, and me, have drafted according to them.

Show me where it says in the rules that you'll be penalized for playing someone at their natural position if they played a different position in their third highest salary season (according to WIS). Still looking for that in the rules....

 

[Capella]

I can't even follow what you ###holes are talking about anymore. It's really easy, even for stupid people.If your player has played 100 games at a position, you're eligible to put him there in the FFA vote or the sim. If that hurts his defense at some point, you're ####ed. Not my problem. Proceed with caution.pick coming in a sec..

 

[Koya]

You should be drafting a lot differently then.  If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week.  And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless.  There has to be some balance.  If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I meant for the question of position eligibiltity, not the entire deal!

But you have to decide then--should Pickles not be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B, as he only played that a small amount, and that small amount happened to coincide with his third-salaried year? I think that's a fine argument to make, I just don't see how it can be made after the rules have already been set, and people like Pickles, and me, have drafted according to them.

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear. This is the side I'd take too.

If we can not agree to some flexibility on this.. if a guy plays 90% of his career at one position, to be FORCED to use that player at another position seems to be wrong. I would hope everyone agrees on that.

 

[UCONN]

I can't even follow what you ###holes are talking about anymore. It's really easy, even for stupid people.If your player has played 100 games at a position, you're eligible to put him there in the FFA vote or the sim. If that hurts his defense at some point, you're ####ed. Not my problem. Proceed with caution.pick coming in a sec..

:absolutepower:and using it well imo.Good job w/ the update LB.

 

[UCONN]

You should be drafting a lot differently then.  If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week.  And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless.  There has to be some balance.  If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I meant for the question of position eligibiltity, not the entire deal!

But you have to decide then--should Pickles not be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B, as he only played that a small amount, and that small amount happened to coincide with his third-salaried year? I think that's a fine argument to make, I just don't see how it can be made after the rules have already been set, and people like Pickles, and me, have drafted according to them.

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear. This is the side I'd take too.

If we can not agree to some flexibility on this.. if a guy plays 90% of his career at one position, to be FORCED to use that player at another position seems to be wrong. I would hope everyone agrees on that.

Da Commish just answered your question.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I can't even follow what you ###holes are talking about anymore. It's really easy, even for stupid people.If your player has played 100 games at a position, you're eligible to put him there in the FFA vote or the sim. If that hurts his defense at some point, you're ####ed. Not my problem. Proceed with caution.pick coming in a sec..

:absolutepower:and using it well imo.Good job w/ the update LB.

 

[Nipsey]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear. This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

 

[Nipsey]

You should be drafting a lot differently then.  If people really "only" cared about the sim, they would draft all the 1880s pictures who won 50 games, and then pitch that guy 5 days a week.  And I would treat a loss to them as meaningless.  There has to be some balance.  If you're really only playing for the sim, then you never should have joined this draft, because the rules were clear about that not being the point.

I meant for the question of position eligibiltity, not the entire deal!

But you have to decide then--should Pickles not be allowed to use Mel Ott at 3B, as he only played that a small amount, and that small amount happened to coincide with his third-salaried year? I think that's a fine argument to make, I just don't see how it can be made after the rules have already been set, and people like Pickles, and me, have drafted according to them.

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear. This is the side I'd take too.

If we can not agree to some flexibility on this.. if a guy plays 90% of his career at one position, to be FORCED to use that player at another position seems to be wrong. I would hope everyone agrees on that.

This is what I'm saying. Apparently you can play him there, but you'll be penalized. Tough ####.

 

[Koya]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear. This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

honestly, I hope the commish and everyone agree to relook at this. When some people are looking at statistics thatother people dont even know exists, how is this an all time draft based not on one season.Now, we are drafting the best third highest salaried players according to WIS?Again, if people want, Ill just go along with that and not make an issue (though Im not drafting according to their third salaried season), but that complete runs counter to what I thought this draft was about.

 

[Capella]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear. This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

is this shtick?

 

[Nipsey]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear.  This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

Cappy just said you can play them anywhere you want if they meet the games played requirement...

But you'll be penalized if their natural position doesn't match up with where they played their third best season. Got it. Crystal clear now. Great rule.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Updated picksROUND ONE1.1 pumpnick -- SP Walter Johnson1.2 Spock -- SP Sandy Koufax1.3 lastresort -- OF Babe Ruth1.4 Capella -- OF Willie Mays1.5 Nipsey -- SP CY Young1.6 Sammy3469 --OF Ted Williams1.7 Pickles -- 1B Lou Gehrig1.8 Harrier -- OF Barry Bonds1.9 Doug B -- OF Stan Musial1.10 bogart -- 2B Rogers Hornsby1.11 Koya -- P Lefty Grove1.12 funkley -- OF Ty Cobb1.13 Kraft -- OF Hank Aaron1.14 UCONN -- OF Mickey Mantle1.15 Spartans -- SS Honus Wagner1.16 LarryBoy -- SP Christy Mathewson2.1 Larryboy -- SP Roger Clemens2.2 Spartans -- SP Pedro Martinez2.3 UCONN -- OF Tris Speaker2.4 Kraft -- OF Joltin' Joe DiMaggio2.5 funkley -- 1B Jimmy Foxx2.6 koya -- 3B Mike Schmidt2.7 Bogart -- OF Rickey Henderson2.8 Doug B -- SP Warren Spahn2.9 Harrier -- SP Grover Cleveland Alexander2.10 Pickles -- OF Frank Robinson2.11 Sammy -- 3B Eddie Matthews2.12 Nipsey -- 2B Joe Morgan2.13 Capella -- 2B/3B/1B/OF Pete Rose2.14 Last Resort - 2B Eddie Collins2.15 Spock - SP Nolan Ryan2.16 Pumpnick - 2B Nap Lajoie3.1 pumpnick -- SP Greg Maddux3.2 Spock -- SP Steve Carlton3.3 lastresort -- 1B Mark McGwire3.4 Capella -- SP Randy Johnson3.5 Nipsey -- OF Joe Jackson3.6 Sammy3469 -- SS/IB Ernie Banks3.7 Pickles -- OF/3B Mel Ott3.8 Harrier -- SP Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown3.9 Doug B -- 3B George Brett3.10 bogart -- OF Billy Hamilton3.11 Koya -- SP Tom Seaver3.12 funkley -- 3B Harmon Killebrew3.13 Kraft -- SP Bob Gibson3.14 UCONN -- 2B Jackie Robinson3.15 Spartans -- SP Hal Newhouser3.16 LarryBoy -- 1B Frank Thomas4.01 LarryBoy -- 2B Charlie Gehringer4.02 Spartans -- OF Carl Yastrzemski4.03 UCONN -- SS Arky Vaughan4.04 Kraft -- 1B George Sisler4.05 Funkley -- SP Juan Marichal4.06 Koya -- OF Ken Griffey Jr.4.07 Bogart -- C Mickey Cochrane4.08 Doug B -- OF Tim Raines4.09 Harrier -- C Mike Piazza4.10 Pickles -- C Yogi Berra4.11 Sammy -- 2B Rod Carew4.12 Nipsey -- 1B/OF Hank Greenberg4.13 Capella -- OF Roberto Clemente4.14 Lastresort -- 3B Wade Boggs4.15 Spock -- 2B Frankie Frisch4.16 Pumpnick -- OF Duke Snider5.1 pumpnick -- SP Carl Hubbell5.2 Spock -- OF Tony Gwynn5.3 lastresort -- OF Al Simmons 5.4 Capella 5.5 Nipsey 5.6 Sammy3469 5.7 Pickles5.8 Harrier5.9 Doug B 5.10 bogart 5.11 Koya 5.12 funkley5.13 Kraft5.14 UCONN5.15 Spartans5.16 LarryBoy

 

[UCONN]

:howdoyoulikebeingonthisendcappy:aint so cool when people make a simple, fun thing complicated is it,

 

[Doug B]

Are you guys positive that a player is penalized heavily for playing "out of position" in a given year? I mean, yeah, Mark McGwire can't play second base or something. But in the Mel Ott case, I'm not convinces he's stink in the outfield for just one year of simulated career, and be fine the rest of the time. The sim has to be "smarter" than that.



Capella, might be a good question for your bud at WIS.com.

.

 

[UCONN]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear.  This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

is this shtick?

:rotflmao:

 

[Koya]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear.  This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

is this shtick?

I dont think it is. He has a legit point. Instead of arguing whether whether player A is better than B, we will be looking for what does the third season of wis say?

 

[Nipsey]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear.  This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

is this shtick?

No, I'm confused as to what we're doing here.

 

[Doug B]

Honestly, I hope the commish and everyone agree to relook at this. When some people are looking at statistics thatother people dont even know exists, how is this an all time draft based not on one season.Now, we are drafting the best third highest salaried players according to WIS?Again, if people want, Ill just go along with that and not make an issue (though Im not drafting according to their third salaried season), but that complete runs counter to what I thought this draft was about.

 

[Capella]

Rules is rules and Cappy's were pretty darn clear.  This is the side I'd take too.

OK then. So we're strictly going with the position a guy played at in his 3rd highest salary year at whatif sports.Keep this in mind when you draft relief pitchers because the third highest salary they have will be when they were a starter (if they were). Also, we need to get rid of the multiple positions listed next to some of the players in the draft as they only qualify at 1 position.

is this shtick?

I dont think it is. He has a legit point. Instead of arguing whether whether player A is better than B, we will be looking for what does the third season of wis say?

only if you're incapable of human thought.

 

[Koya]

Are you guys positive that a player is penalized heavily for playing "out of position" in a given year? I mean, yeah, Mark McGwire can't play second base or something. But in the Mel Ott case, I'm not convinces he's stink in the outfield for just one year of simulated career, and be fine the rest of the time. The sim has to be "smarter" than that.



Capella, might be a good question for your bud at WIS.com.

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thats part of the issue I think Doug. Some of us have just looked at the site a little, some may not have looked at all, and others seem to have an understanding of who has good third highest salary years.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I can't even follow what you ###holes are talking about anymore.

It's really easy, even for stupid people.

If your player has played 100 games at a position, you're eligible to put him there in the FFA vote or the sim. If that hurts his defense at some point, you're ####ed. Not my problem. Proceed with caution.

pick coming in a sec..

I hate to be a nag, but is it really that simple?People seem to be caught up with the idea that a guy can't play at an eligible position unless he also happened to play that position in his third best year. That is, even if a guy played 100 games at 3B over his career, unless he played there one or more games in his third best year, it's useless.

Clarify, and please hurry. This place is getting testy.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Are you guys positive that a player is penalized heavily for playing "out of position" in a given year? I mean, yeah, Mark McGwire can't play second base or something. But in the Mel Ott case, I'm not convinces he's stink in the outfield for just one year of simulated career, and be fine the rest of the time. The sim has to be "smarter" than that.



Capella, might be a good question for your bud at WIS.com.

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I think step #1 should be Capella talking to whomever he knows at WIS.com and seeing what they say...asking about reliever requirements (do they have to be stated as a reliever?), penalties for playing out-of-position, and whatever ellse we are wondering about...

We could be wondering what is up wtih this for no reason, I mean, maybe some players are good at multiple positions, in baseball that would have to be, otherwise what would they do with Utility backup players? I know they are in there somewhere...

There are players who played every position, and that is a HUGE part of baseball... So you'd think that they can't have an all-encompassing penalty for players... they ahve to allow multiple positions for guys...

 

[Capella]

I'll be honest..I haven't even looked at WIS.com yet..I've gone from various websites and some of the books I have.You people are really doing that?

 

[Nipsey]

:howdoyoulikebeingonthisendcappy:aint so cool when people make a simple, fun thing complicated is it,

Dude, I asked a question, got an naswer. No need for the condescending attitude.

 

[Doug B]

No, I'm confused as to what we're doing here.

You may be more competitive than a "for fun" draft requires one to be. Seems like you want to win really bad. Some here just want to draft and shoot the bull about baseball.Not saying you're wrong ... just saying it might be ruining your enjoyment.

 

[Koya]

Gwynn is an interesting pick... perhaps he has a great third salary year (but I kid! sorta.). Did not know where he would fall. What an amazing stroke though.I really like the Simmons choice - a player I should know more about. How consitent was he aside from that awesome peak?

 

[Nipsey]

I can't even follow what you ###holes are talking about anymore.

It's really easy, even for stupid people.

If your player has played 100 games at a position, you're eligible to put him there in the FFA vote or the sim. If that hurts his defense at some point, you're ####ed. Not my problem. Proceed with caution.

pick coming in a sec..

I hate to be a nag, but is it really that simple?People seem to be caught up with the idea that a guy at an eligible position unless he also happened to play that position in his third best year. That is, even if a guy played 100 games at 3B over his career, unless he played there one or more games in his third best year, it's useless.

Clarify, and please hurry. This place is getting testy.

THANK YOU!

 

[Doug B]

A nice compromise might be to allow any season from 3rd on down. That way, if someone needs to drop down to a guy's fourth or fifth year to ensure a given position is covered, it is an option.

 

[Nipsey]

No, I'm confused as to what we're doing here.

You may be more competitive than a "for fun" draft requires one to be. Seems like you want to win really bad. Some here just want to draft and shoot the bull about baseball.Not saying you're wrong ... just saying it might be ruining your enjoyment.

I'd like to have a decent team for the sim, yes. Because you don't want to take it seriously, you get to mock me for not being you?

 

[Capella]

No, I'm confused as to what we're doing here.

You may be more competitive than a "for fun" draft requires one to be. Seems like you want to win really bad. Some here just want to draft and shoot the bull about baseball.Not saying you're wrong ... just saying it might be ruining your enjoyment.

exactlyif people are scurrying over to WIS to see how a guy's third year compares to somebody else, they're missing the boat on the whole idea.

I want to shoot the #### about baseball, learn some new things and have a good time. The sim was my damn idea and I haven't even looked at it yet.

,S

 

[UCONN]

Gwynn is an interesting pick... perhaps he has a great third salary year (but I kid! sorta.). Did not know where he would fall. What an amazing stroke though.I really like the Simmons choice - a player I should know more about. How consitent was he aside from that awesome peak?

Gwynn had one of the most consistant careers of anybody ever. Don't bring up that bull#### of "3rd salary year" everytime a guy gets picked you don't like. Whose up? Draft good guys and you'll do fine.

 

[Doug B]

No, I'm confused as to what we're doing here.

You may be more competitive than a "for fun" draft requires one to be. Seems like you want to win really bad. Some here just want to draft and shoot the bull about baseball.Not saying you're wrong ... just saying it might be ruining your enjoyment.

I'd like to have a decent team for the sim, yes. Because you don't want to take it seriously, you get to mock me for not being you?

Nipsey -- clearly I wasn't mocking you. I said your approach wasn't wrong, and I meant it..

 

[Nipsey]

No, I'm confused as to what we're doing here.

You may be more competitive than a "for fun" draft requires one to be. Seems like you want to win really bad. Some here just want to draft and shoot the bull about baseball.Not saying you're wrong ... just saying it might be ruining your enjoyment.

exactlyif people are scurrying over to WIS to see how a guy's third year compares to somebody else, they're missing the boat on the whole idea.

I want to shoot the #### about baseball, learn some new things and have a good time. The sim was my damn idea and I haven't even looked at it yet.

,S

Taking it too seriously and defining the rules up front, are two different things.