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Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Paul wrote that it is better to marry than to burn... so go for it if you can't handle being single...
Ok. Seems reasonable. This is what I'm kind of thinking though...lets say you are a good Christian and marry a good Christian woman and she dies. When she goes up to Heaven and waits for you and you end up going up there with another wife is she going to be mad? Also, can you sin in heaven? Like lets say in that situation...what if she gets really pissed and committs some sin (I don't know what the sins are but lets just say like tries to kill you up in heaven) is she going to get booted out?
no marriage (and very VERY likely no sex) in heaven...I don't think we'll remember our life on earth much when we get there... but again, I don't know...
I think sex is over-rated. Not saying I don't like it, but I'd expect heaven to have some cool stuff. Like an arcade...jk. Seriously though, do you think heaven will have anything like earth. By that I mean will we have fun? Laugh? Stuff like that or will it just be a bunch of pure souls singing praise jeebus 24/7?
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
I agree...I also think that divorce should require some reason (aka - infidelity or abuse)...

we are WAY too easy on people when it comes to reasons to get a divorce...

We also need to be more fair about it when one wants the divorce and the other doesn't...

aka - if the woman wants a divorce for no reason (she just doesn't wanna be with the guy, or wants to be with someone else instead but hasn't cheated, woudl rather get a divorce first), and the guy wants to stay with the woman, the woman should NOT get any alimony or child support (and who the kids stay with should be very, very looked at)...

if there is abuse or adultery, absolutely divorce should be able to happen, but other than that I don't see why we should allow it as much as we do...

 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Paul wrote that it is better to marry than to burn... so go for it if you can't handle being single...
Ok. Seems reasonable. This is what I'm kind of thinking though...lets say you are a good Christian and marry a good Christian woman and she dies. When she goes up to Heaven and waits for you and you end up going up there with another wife is she going to be mad? Also, can you sin in heaven? Like lets say in that situation...what if she gets really pissed and committs some sin (I don't know what the sins are but lets just say like tries to kill you up in heaven) is she going to get booted out?
There is no marriage in Heaven.As for our ability to sin, I don't know. I would think we can't, but that would mean we have no free will in Heaven. There is no promise that I know of that we will have free will in Heaven.
hmm....i just started thinking on that. So Heaven in all likelihood will bear no resemblance to how we have it here. We'll likely never see another good movie. Never laugh at a funny joke. Never fall in love. It's beyond comprehension...but I don't see how heaven can be better than a life well lived.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Paul wrote that it is better to marry than to burn... so go for it if you can't handle being single...
Ok. Seems reasonable. This is what I'm kind of thinking though...lets say you are a good Christian and marry a good Christian woman and she dies. When she goes up to Heaven and waits for you and you end up going up there with another wife is she going to be mad? Also, can you sin in heaven? Like lets say in that situation...what if she gets really pissed and committs some sin (I don't know what the sins are but lets just say like tries to kill you up in heaven) is she going to get booted out?
no marriage (and very VERY likely no sex) in heaven...I don't think we'll remember our life on earth much when we get there... but again, I don't know...
I think sex is over-rated. Not saying I don't like it, but I'd expect heaven to have some cool stuff. Like an arcade...jk. Seriously though, do you think heaven will have anything like earth. By that I mean will we have fun? Laugh? Stuff like that or will it just be a bunch of pure souls singing praise jeebus 24/7?
it doesn't say... but I'd think there would be fun... Look at Adam in the Garden, he didn't worship God all the time, he walked with God, talked to Him, etc...
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Paul wrote that it is better to marry than to burn... so go for it if you can't handle being single...
Ok. Seems reasonable. This is what I'm kind of thinking though...lets say you are a good Christian and marry a good Christian woman and she dies. When she goes up to Heaven and waits for you and you end up going up there with another wife is she going to be mad? Also, can you sin in heaven? Like lets say in that situation...what if she gets really pissed and committs some sin (I don't know what the sins are but lets just say like tries to kill you up in heaven) is she going to get booted out?
There is no marriage in Heaven.As for our ability to sin, I don't know. I would think we can't, but that would mean we have no free will in Heaven. There is no promise that I know of that we will have free will in Heaven.
hmm....i just started thinking on that. So Heaven in all likelihood will bear no resemblance to how we have it here. We'll likely never see another good movie. Never laugh at a funny joke. Never fall in love. It's beyond comprehension...but I don't see how heaven can be better than a life well lived.
no pain...and there might be marriage (Adam and Eve were married, etc...)

it just won't be like it is on earth, you won't still be married in heaven...

we don't know... Heaven isn't really described except to say it is good...

 
Well. This was fun. I've been thinking about religion for about a week. I don't know. It's just been there in my thoughts. Those questions were kind of just shoot the breeze/silly type things, but I really have been thinking about it in general. Thanks for the answers guys.

 
Sweet.  Getting answers from Spock and Larry Boy both.  That part about material bodies in heaven got me thinking....I wonder what you go to heaven looking like.  Like if you die as a 98 year old beat up shell of a man do you go to heaven like that or do you get in as yourself in your prime.
When Adam and Eve were created they didn't know they were naked until they sinned. Some conclude from this that their bodies were "heavenly", and perhaps there was some sort of "light" so to speak that covered their earthly body. When they sinned they no longer had the "light" and could see their nakedness. Maybe our bodies in Heaven are similar.
Wow. That's really cool. Interesting stuff. I wish I was smarter. Seriously...I think if I was I'd consider religion more...it's just so hard to even start to comprehend this stuff though.
You don't have to be smart to read. A pastor a while ago told me a story about how difficult it is to comprehend the Bible. He said a man approached his preacher and said "It's a waste of time for me to read the Bible. I read it, but don't remember anything. It's just to easy to forget what I read". The preacher said "I want you to take this old wicker basket down to the river, scoop up some water and bring the water filled wicker basket back to me." The guy said "But that's crazy. The water will just...." The preacher interrupted and said "Please just humor me. Go and do it." So the guy goes and dips the wicker basket into the water and brings it back to the preacher. Along the way all the water had drained through the wicker. He said to the preacher "Here you go. I tried telling you all the water would drain out." The preacher said "Go do it again". Not happy at all about such a waste of time, he did it anyway. Once again he got back and said "Here again is an empty wicker basket." The preacher said look at the basket and tell me what's different about it now." The guy said "well... it's cleaner". The preacher said, "and so will you be after you read the Bible, even if you can't remember what you read."

 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
If God cannot rebuild a broken marriage, then he is not Almighty. People get divorced because they are hard in the heart and aren't willing to let God change them in such a way that not only would their marriage work, but it would be a blessing to both of them.
 
Sweet.  Getting answers from Spock and Larry Boy both.  That part about material bodies in heaven got me thinking....I wonder what you go to heaven looking like.  Like if you die as a 98 year old beat up shell of a man do you go to heaven like that or do you get in as yourself in your prime.
When Adam and Eve were created they didn't know they were naked until they sinned. Some conclude from this that their bodies were "heavenly", and perhaps there was some sort of "light" so to speak that covered their earthly body. When they sinned they no longer had the "light" and could see their nakedness. Maybe our bodies in Heaven are similar.
Wow. That's really cool. Interesting stuff. I wish I was smarter. Seriously...I think if I was I'd consider religion more...it's just so hard to even start to comprehend this stuff though.
You don't have to be smart to read. A pastor a while ago told me a story about how difficult it is to comprehend the Bible. He said a man approached his preacher and said "It's a waste of time for me to read the Bible. I read it, but don't remember anything. It's just to easy to forget what I read". The preacher said "I want you to take this old wicker basket down to the river, scoop up some water and bring the water filled wicker basket back to me." The guy said "But that's crazy. The water will just...." The preacher interrupted and said "Please just humor me. Go and do it." So the guy goes and dips the wicker basket into the water and brings it back to the preacher. Along the way all the water had drained through the wicker. He said to the preacher "Here you go. I tried telling you all the water would drain out." The preacher said "Go do it again". Not happy at all about such a waste of time, he did it anyway. Once again he got back and said "Here again is an empty wicker basket." The preacher said look at the basket and tell me what's different about it now." The guy said "well... it's cleaner". The preacher said, "and so will you be after you read the Bible, even if you can't remember what you read."
:goodposting: Cool stuff. I'm going to do one of the read the bible in a year type plans or something I think. Will proboably pick one of those things up over the Easter weekend. I've been thinking about it so don't really have an excuse not to.

 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Paul wrote that it is better to marry than to burn... so go for it if you can't handle being single...
Ok. Seems reasonable. This is what I'm kind of thinking though...lets say you are a good Christian and marry a good Christian woman and she dies. When she goes up to Heaven and waits for you and you end up going up there with another wife is she going to be mad? Also, can you sin in heaven? Like lets say in that situation...what if she gets really pissed and committs some sin (I don't know what the sins are but lets just say like tries to kill you up in heaven) is she going to get booted out?
no marriage (and very VERY likely no sex) in heaven...I don't think we'll remember our life on earth much when we get there... but again, I don't know...
I think sex is over-rated. Not saying I don't like it, but I'd expect heaven to have some cool stuff. Like an arcade...jk. Seriously though, do you think heaven will have anything like earth. By that I mean will we have fun? Laugh? Stuff like that or will it just be a bunch of pure souls singing praise jeebus 24/7?
I think it will be like the Garden of Eden, where we could do whatever we wanted to do.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Paul wrote that it is better to marry than to burn... so go for it if you can't handle being single...
Ok. Seems reasonable. This is what I'm kind of thinking though...lets say you are a good Christian and marry a good Christian woman and she dies. When she goes up to Heaven and waits for you and you end up going up there with another wife is she going to be mad? Also, can you sin in heaven? Like lets say in that situation...what if she gets really pissed and committs some sin (I don't know what the sins are but lets just say like tries to kill you up in heaven) is she going to get booted out?
There is no marriage in Heaven.As for our ability to sin, I don't know. I would think we can't, but that would mean we have no free will in Heaven. There is no promise that I know of that we will have free will in Heaven.
hmm....i just started thinking on that. So Heaven in all likelihood will bear no resemblance to how we have it here. We'll likely never see another good movie. Never laugh at a funny joke. Never fall in love. It's beyond comprehension...but I don't see how heaven can be better than a life well lived.
Why couldn't there be movies? Why couldn't there be jokes? We will love everyone, but I don't think there will be sex.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Paul wrote that it is better to marry than to burn... so go for it if you can't handle being single...
Ok. Seems reasonable. This is what I'm kind of thinking though...lets say you are a good Christian and marry a good Christian woman and she dies. When she goes up to Heaven and waits for you and you end up going up there with another wife is she going to be mad? Also, can you sin in heaven? Like lets say in that situation...what if she gets really pissed and committs some sin (I don't know what the sins are but lets just say like tries to kill you up in heaven) is she going to get booted out?
There is no marriage in Heaven.As for our ability to sin, I don't know. I would think we can't, but that would mean we have no free will in Heaven. There is no promise that I know of that we will have free will in Heaven.
hmm....i just started thinking on that. So Heaven in all likelihood will bear no resemblance to how we have it here. We'll likely never see another good movie. Never laugh at a funny joke. Never fall in love. It's beyond comprehension...but I don't see how heaven can be better than a life well lived.
Why couldn't there be movies? Why couldn't there be jokes? We will love everyone, but I don't think there will be sex.
I just like making decisions. Shoot or pass. Stop of go. Whatever. It seems like with no free will/decisions making existance as we know it couldn't happen. The things that are funny or interesting in movies are the choices people make. I dunno...it isn't an important question...just kind of interesting.
 
Well. This was fun. I've been thinking about religion for about a week. I don't know. It's just been there in my thoughts. Those questions were kind of just shoot the breeze/silly type things, but I really have been thinking about it in general. Thanks for the answers guys.
I've started reading this book. I find the actual Bible intimidating so I picked this up and have started checking it out. So far so good, I recommend it :thumbup:
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
 
Well.  This was fun.  I've been thinking about religion for about a week.  I don't know.  It's just been there in my thoughts.  Those questions were kind of just shoot the breeze/silly type things, but I really have been thinking about it in general.  Thanks for the answers guys.
I've started reading this book. I find the actual Bible intimidating so I picked this up and have started checking it out. So far so good, I recommend it :thumbup:
Cool. I really might do that. 15 bucks if I can find another book to get the free shipping. Thanks for the link.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...

 
Sweet.  Getting answers from Spock and Larry Boy both.  That part about material bodies in heaven got me thinking....I wonder what you go to heaven looking like.  Like if you die as a 98 year old beat up shell of a man do you go to heaven like that or do you get in as yourself in your prime.
When Adam and Eve were created they didn't know they were naked until they sinned. Some conclude from this that their bodies were "heavenly", and perhaps there was some sort of "light" so to speak that covered their earthly body. When they sinned they no longer had the "light" and could see their nakedness. Maybe our bodies in Heaven are similar.
Wow. That's really cool. Interesting stuff. I wish I was smarter. Seriously...I think if I was I'd consider religion more...it's just so hard to even start to comprehend this stuff though.
You don't have to be smart to read. A pastor a while ago told me a story about how difficult it is to comprehend the Bible. He said a man approached his preacher and said "It's a waste of time for me to read the Bible. I read it, but don't remember anything. It's just to easy to forget what I read". The preacher said "I want you to take this old wicker basket down to the river, scoop up some water and bring the water filled wicker basket back to me." The guy said "But that's crazy. The water will just...." The preacher interrupted and said "Please just humor me. Go and do it." So the guy goes and dips the wicker basket into the water and brings it back to the preacher. Along the way all the water had drained through the wicker. He said to the preacher "Here you go. I tried telling you all the water would drain out." The preacher said "Go do it again". Not happy at all about such a waste of time, he did it anyway. Once again he got back and said "Here again is an empty wicker basket." The preacher said look at the basket and tell me what's different about it now." The guy said "well... it's cleaner". The preacher said, "and so will you be after you read the Bible, even if you can't remember what you read."
:goodposting: Cool stuff. I'm going to do one of the read the bible in a year type plans or something I think. Will proboably pick one of those things up over the Easter weekend. I've been thinking about it so don't really have an excuse not to.
If you're new to the Bible and want to read it in a year, you may want to consider getting The Message by NavPress. It's not a version of the Bible that was written to be studied. For instance if you were going to have a Bible Study on a particular book of the Bible, like Ephesians, The Message wouldn't be a good version for that Bible study. The purpose of the words chosen in The Message were to make it easy for a 21st century person who had never read the entire Bible before to read. I've been reading the Bible for decades and have tried some of those 1 year schedules using NIV or NAS and it feels like a chore because one stumbles a lot on the words and phrases. The Message reads just a story written today. You can get through the entire Bible in a year with that version. But if you ever want to study the Bible, choose a different version. This is the recommendation of the author of the Message "Peterson, I think" and I am just repeating it.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
Yeah. I hate even thinking about the abuse situations. A number of my friends are cops and they'll talk about getting called into domestics. Don't know how they do it. I'm sure I'd end up killing a guy.
 
Sweet.  Getting answers from Spock and Larry Boy both.  That part about material bodies in heaven got me thinking....I wonder what you go to heaven looking like.  Like if you die as a 98 year old beat up shell of a man do you go to heaven like that or do you get in as yourself in your prime.
When Adam and Eve were created they didn't know they were naked until they sinned. Some conclude from this that their bodies were "heavenly", and perhaps there was some sort of "light" so to speak that covered their earthly body. When they sinned they no longer had the "light" and could see their nakedness. Maybe our bodies in Heaven are similar.
Wow. That's really cool. Interesting stuff. I wish I was smarter. Seriously...I think if I was I'd consider religion more...it's just so hard to even start to comprehend this stuff though.
You don't have to be smart to read. A pastor a while ago told me a story about how difficult it is to comprehend the Bible. He said a man approached his preacher and said "It's a waste of time for me to read the Bible. I read it, but don't remember anything. It's just to easy to forget what I read". The preacher said "I want you to take this old wicker basket down to the river, scoop up some water and bring the water filled wicker basket back to me." The guy said "But that's crazy. The water will just...." The preacher interrupted and said "Please just humor me. Go and do it." So the guy goes and dips the wicker basket into the water and brings it back to the preacher. Along the way all the water had drained through the wicker. He said to the preacher "Here you go. I tried telling you all the water would drain out." The preacher said "Go do it again". Not happy at all about such a waste of time, he did it anyway. Once again he got back and said "Here again is an empty wicker basket." The preacher said look at the basket and tell me what's different about it now." The guy said "well... it's cleaner". The preacher said, "and so will you be after you read the Bible, even if you can't remember what you read."
:goodposting: Cool stuff. I'm going to do one of the read the bible in a year type plans or something I think. Will proboably pick one of those things up over the Easter weekend. I've been thinking about it so don't really have an excuse not to.
If you're new to the Bible and want to read it in a year, you may want to consider getting The Message by NavPress. It's not a version of the Bible that was written to be studied. For instance if you were going to have a Bible Study on a particular book of the Bible, like Ephesians, The Message wouldn't be a good version for that Bible study. The purpose of the words chosen in The Message were to make it easy for a 21st century person who had never read the entire Bible before to read. I've been reading the Bible for decades and have tried some of those 1 year schedules using NIV or NAS and it feels like a chore because one stumbles a lot on the words and phrases. The Message reads just a story written today. You can get through the entire Bible in a year with that version. But if you ever want to study the Bible, choose a different version. This is the recommendation of the author of the Message "Peterson, I think" and I am just repeating it.
Cool. I'll check it and the Bible for Dummies thing out and pick whichever one looks best and/or is cheaper... :bag: . The "study" part isn't a big deal to me. Just want to give reading some of it a chance.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
 
Well.  This was fun.  I've been thinking about religion for about a week.  I don't know.  It's just been there in my thoughts.  Those questions were kind of just shoot the breeze/silly type things, but I really have been thinking about it in general.  Thanks for the answers guys.
I've started reading this book. I find the actual Bible intimidating so I picked this up and have started checking it out. So far so good, I recommend it :thumbup:
Cool. I really might do that. 15 bucks if I can find another book to get the free shipping. Thanks for the link.
I really like the way the authors approach it, they give several different interpretations/opinions of stories and are not preachy or biased as far as I can see so far. I think it's a solid jumping off point, my basic reasons for getting into the bible is for my kids I want to be able to discuss it with them fairly intelligently when they get old enough(I'm starting early). :ph34r:
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
I know of numerous marriages where one spouse cheated and both of them repented of their sins and God not only restored the marriage but made it better than they imagined it could be. Some of them now counsel others whose marriages are in trouble. Just because cheating is frequent doesn't mean divorce should match that frequency. God can fix anything if people are willing to submit to Him which allows Him to fix it (which usually means fixing them).
 
Well.  This was fun.  I've been thinking about religion for about a week.  I don't know.  It's just been there in my thoughts.  Those questions were kind of just shoot the breeze/silly type things, but I really have been thinking about it in general.  Thanks for the answers guys.
I've started reading this book. I find the actual Bible intimidating so I picked this up and have started checking it out. So far so good, I recommend it :thumbup:
Cool. I really might do that. 15 bucks if I can find another book to get the free shipping. Thanks for the link.
I really like the way the authors approach it, they give several different interpretations/opinions of stories and are not preachy or biased as far as I can see so far. I think it's a solid jumping off point, my basic reasons for getting into the bible is for my kids I want to be able to discuss it with them fairly intelligently when they get old enough(I'm starting early). :ph34r:
Sounds like a good reason. Man, having kids is going to be rough, :wall: . Going to try to make it out to our local malls bookstore and look at this and Spocks suggestion and start on one of them by Easter Sunday. Thanks again for the recommendations guys. This one sounds pretty good as I have virtually no background in the church or bible. I know basically what you learn in public schools. Took one religion class in college also, but all I remember was talking about Indians and whether or not money should say In God We Trust.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
I know of numerous marriages where one spouse cheated and both of them repented of their sins and God not only restored the marriage but made it better than they imagined it could be. Some of them now counsel others whose marriages are in trouble. Just because cheating is frequent doesn't mean divorce should match that frequency. God can fix anything if people are willing to submit to Him which allows Him to fix it (which usually means fixing them).
Fine. I just think it's unreasonable to expect people to stay in a relationship where the trust has been broken. I think the divorce rate is high for a reason, monogamy is friggin HARD!!!
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
I know of numerous marriages where one spouse cheated and both of them repented of their sins and God not only restored the marriage but made it better than they imagined it could be. Some of them now counsel others whose marriages are in trouble. Just because cheating is frequent doesn't mean divorce should match that frequency. God can fix anything if people are willing to submit to Him which allows Him to fix it (which usually means fixing them).
If I loved somebody enough to marry them I think I'd try to work through an instance of infedelity (sp). Also, I could see myself cheating. I'd really try not to...but I could see it happening. I think any situation with abuse needs to end and no woman should ever be looked down on by anybody (including the church) for getting away from that. I'm also no big fan of cheating and being realistic know that it'd be awful tough to work through (this isn't coming from the God will work it out angle obviously), but I agree too many couples get divorced too easily/without enough effort.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
I know of numerous marriages where one spouse cheated and both of them repented of their sins and God not only restored the marriage but made it better than they imagined it could be. Some of them now counsel others whose marriages are in trouble. Just because cheating is frequent doesn't mean divorce should match that frequency. God can fix anything if people are willing to submit to Him which allows Him to fix it (which usually means fixing them).
Fine. I just think it's unreasonable to expect people to stay in a relationship where the trust has been broken. I think the divorce rate is high for a reason, monogamy is friggin HARD!!!
True dat. This is coming from a single 24 year old, but I'd have a hard time doing it as is. Hope I get to the point where I could though.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
I know of numerous marriages where one spouse cheated and both of them repented of their sins and God not only restored the marriage but made it better than they imagined it could be. Some of them now counsel others whose marriages are in trouble. Just because cheating is frequent doesn't mean divorce should match that frequency. God can fix anything if people are willing to submit to Him which allows Him to fix it (which usually means fixing them).
If I loved somebody enough to marry them I think I'd try to work through an instance of infedelity (sp). Also, I could see myself cheating. I'd really try not to...but I could see it happening. I think any situation with abuse needs to end and no woman should ever be looked down on by anybody (including the church) for getting away from that. I'm also no big fan of cheating and being realistic know that it'd be awful tough to work through (this isn't coming from the God will work it out angle obviously), but I agree too many couples get divorced too easily/without enough effort.
I've never heard of a church giving counsel to a woman to go back to a beating husband. I have however heard of churches who counsel such a woman to not get remarried because she is still in God's eyes married to that man.
 
Oh. I reserve the right to jump in against religion with my agnostic/atheist band of heathens at any time in the future. I don't expect any of this stuff to be brought up and used against me.

 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
I know of numerous marriages where one spouse cheated and both of them repented of their sins and God not only restored the marriage but made it better than they imagined it could be. Some of them now counsel others whose marriages are in trouble. Just because cheating is frequent doesn't mean divorce should match that frequency. God can fix anything if people are willing to submit to Him which allows Him to fix it (which usually means fixing them).
If I loved somebody enough to marry them I think I'd try to work through an instance of infedelity (sp). Also, I could see myself cheating. I'd really try not to...but I could see it happening. I think any situation with abuse needs to end and no woman should ever be looked down on by anybody (including the church) for getting away from that. I'm also no big fan of cheating and being realistic know that it'd be awful tough to work through (this isn't coming from the God will work it out angle obviously), but I agree too many couples get divorced too easily/without enough effort.
I've never heard of a church giving counsel to a woman to go back to a beating husband. I have however heard of churches who counsel such a woman to not get remarried because she is still in God's eyes married to that man.
That doesn't seem unreasonable. Can't say I agree with it for sure, but it doesn't sound unreasonable.
 
Ok.  Here's another one.  What does God think about re-marriage?  Like if you fall in love and get married young then your wife dies.  What if you get married again?  Is that a bad thing in God's eyes?
Malachi has some good stuff on this, and it's a short book, so you could read it pretty quick. Your remarriage may be a sin depending on why you got divorced. It's divorce that God despises, not remarriage.
I'm against divorce too. It happens and is a bad situation, but it really is a bad situation. If I get married and she cheats on me I'm not going to beat on her or shoot her lover or anything. That'd be divorce time. If she decides to get divorced for whatever reason...not much you can do. I hate it when people get married basically "expecting" a divorce though. Really is a problem w/ our society imo.
Given the percentage of American homes that have either infidelity and/or abuse then you really don't need any other significant reasons for the divorce rate to still be very high.
it would still be pretty high... but a lot lower than it is now...Also, I think that if one partner cheats and the other doesn't (unless there is abuse again...) that the one who cheated should be 100% at fault for the divorce...
I don't think you can say a lot lower. What, half of marriages end in divorce? 40% of married people cheat at least once. One in 4 or 5 American homes are abusive. Staggering odds against marriage right there.
I know of numerous marriages where one spouse cheated and both of them repented of their sins and God not only restored the marriage but made it better than they imagined it could be. Some of them now counsel others whose marriages are in trouble. Just because cheating is frequent doesn't mean divorce should match that frequency. God can fix anything if people are willing to submit to Him which allows Him to fix it (which usually means fixing them).
Fine. I just think it's unreasonable to expect people to stay in a relationship where the trust has been broken. I think the divorce rate is high for a reason, monogamy is friggin HARD!!!
God can fix trust. He fixed my mother-in-laws trust after my father-in-law cheated numerous time on her. They are happily married and counsel others having problems in marriage. However my sister refussed to let God rebuild trust in her husband, so he didn't and they are divorced. It all comes down to a willingness to submit to God and let him fix EVERYTHING that is broken, and yes, many times that includes broken trust.

 
Sorry but if God expects a woman to not move forward with her own life simply because her former husband beat her up then I'll take a pass on religion please......as usual.

 
can't you guys go pick one of the other 55,000 bible threads around this place? unless you're talking about how everybody in Flushing, NY sold their souls to Satan in the Summer of '69, get that #### out of here.

 
can't you guys go pick one of the other 55,000 bible threads around this place? unless you're talking about how everybody in Flushing, NY sold their souls to Satan in the Summer of '69, get that #### out of here.
blow me.
 
can't you guys go pick one of the other 55,000 bible threads around this place? unless you're talking about how everybody in Flushing, NY sold their souls to Satan in the Summer of '69, get that #### out of here.
God hates your team. :yes:
 
can't you guys go pick one of the other 55,000 bible threads around this place? unless you're talking about how everybody in Flushing, NY sold their souls to Satan in the Summer of '69, get that #### out of here.
in here we can have a conversation without 15 people making sarcastic posts about every post that is remotely serious...aka - we can actually talk about it civilly and without stupid people interupting... which is very good...

 

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