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LoL. This is such a better schtick.dammit, have to wait till I get home to see it.![]()
LoL. This is such a better schtick.dammit, have to wait till I get home to see it.![]()
Thanks Giants. I would be up for doing more than one sim, if it doesnt take too much effort. We are all putting a lot of time into this draft... maybe we can have a second season.Something for you guys to consider. I have Out of the Park Baseball 6 and could enter your lineups into that and sim the season for you if you don't want to stop at the WhatIf thing.Not sure if I can split it out by 3rd best season but I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to take the overalls from these guys. I'll have to look into it before committing to the time but I don't think it would be a huge problem.
Cool! Maybe we could use the results for seeding in the FFA tourney?Something for you guys to consider. I have Out of the Park Baseball 6 and could enter your lineups into that and sim the season for you if you don't want to stop at the WhatIf thing.Not sure if I can split it out by 3rd best season but I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to take the overalls from these guys. I'll have to look into it before committing to the time but I don't think it would be a huge problem.
Better than what? Surely you don't mean to say that it's better than the Top Gun schtick? Nothing beats that schtick. Nothing.LoL. This is such a better schtick.dammit, have to wait till I get home to see it.![]()
Gf'nB bandadoodles.....bandadoodles.
I don't think it will be a problem but I just bought OOTP so I haven't had much time to play with it yet. I downloaded the Lahman database so getting the stats for any player shouldn't be a problem. Just might take me some time to set it up and figure out what the hell I'm doing.Thanks Giants. I would be up for doing more than one sim, if it doesnt take too much effort. We are all putting a lot of time into this draft... maybe we can have a second season.
Young gets a pass because he's Cy Young. To me, he respresents that whole era and besides him, I don't think it's fair that any of those pre-1900 pitcher get picked. Seriously, there are a few guys that can be justified, but the are also others that have a few unreal seasons that should not be taken. It really would throw the monkey in the wrench for the sim. I think Capella should be allowed to reject certain picks if they're going to mess it all up, because let's face it, the sim is really the only thing that maters here anyway.Because Nipsey picked Young. Therefore, any fact to the contrary is disqualified, and any comparison to another player = pumping up.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.
well it'll be another two months before we're even done drafting, so don't sweat it.I don't think it will be a problem but I just bought OOTP so I haven't had much time to play with it yet. I downloaded the Lahman database so getting the stats for any player shouldn't be a problem. Just might take me some time to set it up and figure out what the hell I'm doing.Thanks Giants. I would be up for doing more than one sim, if it doesnt take too much effort. We are all putting a lot of time into this draft... maybe we can have a second season.
LOLYoung gets a pass because he's Cy Young. To me, he respresents that whole era and besides him, I don't think it's fair that any of those pre-1900 pitcher get picked. Seriously, there are a few guys that can be justified, but the are also others that have a few unreal seasons that should not be taken. It really would throw the monkey in the wrench for the sim. I think Capella should be allowed to reject certain picks if they're going to mess it all up, because let's face it, the sim is really the only thing that maters here anyway.Because Nipsey picked Young. Therefore, any fact to the contrary is disqualified, and any comparison to another player = pumping up.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.
fair enough.At least for the purposes of the sim, Young's considered year, in fact his top three, are post-1900. And that was my issue.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.
I hate you.Young gets a pass because he's Cy Young. To me, he respresents that whole era and besides him, I don't think it's fair that any of those pre-1900 pitcher get picked. Seriously, there are a few guys that can be justified, but the are also others that have a few unreal seasons that should not be taken. It really would throw the monkey in the wrench for the sim. I think Capella should be allowed to reject certain picks if they're going to mess it all up, because let's face it, the sim is really the only thing that maters here anyway.Because Nipsey picked Young. Therefore, any fact to the contrary is disqualified, and any comparison to another player = pumping up.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.
You need to go back about 7-10 pages, there are some classics there. I sold the "Yankee Bench" to Mr. Ham last night...
look at thier battings stats those years, here, I'll help you...1. Williams - .305/.391/.535, 29 Home Runs, 102 RBIs, 17 Stolen Bases2. Gehringer - .354/.431/.555, 15 Home Runs, 116 RBIs3. Robin Yount - .308/.383/.503, 17 Home Runs, 80 RBIs4. Frank Thomas - .308 .454 .606 40 Home Runs, 111 RBIs5. Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez - .298 .360 .488 16 Hrs 57 RBIs in 97 games (is that gonna hurt me? Why is a saeson he missed 65 games his #3??)either way... it's all good...how is that a sad lineup?This is one sad-looking lineup.1. Bernie Williams - B+/A (1996)2. Charlie Gehringer - B-/A+ (1936)3. Robin Yount - A-/B+ at SS (1983)4. Frank Thomas - B/C his third season (1995)5. Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez A/A (1994)Rotation:1. Christy Mathewson - 359 1.28 31-9 2 0.93 .199 1.70 5.48 0.11 (1905)2. Roger Clemens - 271 2.62 18-10 0 1.05 .212 2.16 7.99 0.50 (1991)3. Tom Glavine - 241 3.40 21-9 0 1.19 .235 2.43 5.68 0.90 (2000)not bad... I don't get the Glavine and Clemens seasons, but, ok, I guess... lol
And people wonder why Ty Cobb was such a #### all the time--the side effects were a #####.Gf'nB bandadoodles.....bandadoodles.
That lineup is so sad I'm keeping my wife away from the screen--no one likes dealing with those tears.look at thier battings stats those years, here, I'll help you...1. Williams - .305/.391/.535, 29 Home Runs, 102 RBIs, 17 Stolen Bases2. Gehringer - .354/.431/.555, 15 Home Runs, 116 RBIs3. Robin Yount - .308/.383/.503, 17 Home Runs, 80 RBIs4. Frank Thomas - .308 .454 .606 40 Home Runs, 111 RBIs5. Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez - .298 .360 .488 16 Hrs 57 RBIs in 97 games (is that gonna hurt me? Why is a saeson he missed 65 games his #3??)either way... it's all good...how is that a sad lineup?This is one sad-looking lineup.1. Bernie Williams - B+/A (1996)2. Charlie Gehringer - B-/A+ (1936)3. Robin Yount - A-/B+ at SS (1983)4. Frank Thomas - B/C his third season (1995)5. Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez A/A (1994)Rotation:1. Christy Mathewson - 359 1.28 31-9 2 0.93 .199 1.70 5.48 0.11 (1905)2. Roger Clemens - 271 2.62 18-10 0 1.05 .212 2.16 7.99 0.50 (1991)3. Tom Glavine - 241 3.40 21-9 0 1.19 .235 2.43 5.68 0.90 (2000)not bad... I don't get the Glavine and Clemens seasons, but, ok, I guess... lol
You'll need a good long shower to wash off all the baitDo I have time to shower? Are the next four guys all here?
:rotflmao:I hate you.Young gets a pass because he's Cy Young. To me, he respresents that whole era and besides him, I don't think it's fair that any of those pre-1900 pitcher get picked. Seriously, there are a few guys that can be justified, but the are also others that have a few unreal seasons that should not be taken. It really would throw the monkey in the wrench for the sim. I think Capella should be allowed to reject certain picks if they're going to mess it all up, because let's face it, the sim is really the only thing that maters here anyway.Because Nipsey picked Young. Therefore, any fact to the contrary is disqualified, and any comparison to another player = pumping up.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.
No fishing trip here.I'm just saying that Cy Young should get a pass. Everyone else shouldn't. I think that's completely fair.:rotflmao:I hate you.Young gets a pass because he's Cy Young. To me, he respresents that whole era and besides him, I don't think it's fair that any of those pre-1900 pitcher get picked. Seriously, there are a few guys that can be justified, but the are also others that have a few unreal seasons that should not be taken. It really would throw the monkey in the wrench for the sim. I think Capella should be allowed to reject certain picks if they're going to mess it all up, because let's face it, the sim is really the only thing that maters here anyway.Because Nipsey picked Young. Therefore, any fact to the contrary is disqualified, and any comparison to another player = pumping up.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.
I assumed they were a pick in Shuke's cereal draft.And people wonder why Ty Cobb was such a #### all the time--the side effects were a #####.Gf'nB bandadoodles.....bandadoodles.
LoL. First, Cy is a top 10 pithcer ever. He was that important to the game.However, that he should get a pass when others that may have pitched during the exact same time to not, is somewhat ludicrous and hypocritical. Apples to Apples. During their like years, how did Cy compare to Joss for example? That would be a fair comparison (I think?). Not sure how much overlap they had.No fishing trip here.I'm just saying that Cy Young should get a pass. Everyone else shouldn't. I think that's completely fair.:rotflmao:I hate you.Young gets a pass because he's Cy Young. To me, he respresents that whole era and besides him, I don't think it's fair that any of those pre-1900 pitcher get picked. Seriously, there are a few guys that can be justified, but the are also others that have a few unreal seasons that should not be taken. It really would throw the monkey in the wrench for the sim. I think Capella should be allowed to reject certain picks if they're going to mess it all up, because let's face it, the sim is really the only thing that maters here anyway.Because Nipsey picked Young. Therefore, any fact to the contrary is disqualified, and any comparison to another player = pumping up.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.
LoL. First, Cy is a top 10 pithcer ever. He was that important to the game.However, that he should get a pass when others that may have pitched during the exact same time to not, is somewhat ludicrous and hypocritical. Apples to Apples. During their like years, how did Cy compare to Joss for example? That would be a fair comparison (I think?). Not sure how much overlap they had.No fishing trip here.I'm just saying that Cy Young should get a pass. Everyone else shouldn't. I think that's completely fair.:rotflmao:I hate you.Young gets a pass because he's Cy Young. To me, he respresents that whole era and besides him, I don't think it's fair that any of those pre-1900 pitcher get picked. Seriously, there are a few guys that can be justified, but the are also others that have a few unreal seasons that should not be taken. It really would throw the monkey in the wrench for the sim. I think Capella should be allowed to reject certain picks if they're going to mess it all up, because let's face it, the sim is really the only thing that maters here anyway.Because Nipsey picked Young. Therefore, any fact to the contrary is disqualified, and any comparison to another player = pumping up.Don't forget Nipsey. I still want to know why Young gets a pass for pitching then. I will give you that conditions were different back then, but they are also alot different now. A good pitcher should not be slammed for when he pitches just like a good hitter should not be slammed for hitting now. If a guy is way above his contemporaries he should be given credit. There are some hitters before 1900 that put up some amazing numbers. Pitchers back then had to face these guys as well.As far as I've noticed, tons of people have taken contemporary players--and only Bogart and Pickles have taken pre-1900 pitchers.

.Updated order:
7.16 LarryBoy -- SP Tom Glavine
8.01 LarryBoy -- OF Bernie Williams
8.02 Spartans -- SP Ron Guidry
8.03 UCONN -- SP Catfish Hunter
8.04 Kraft -- 2B/3B/1B Paul Molitor
8.05 Funkley -- OF Goose Goslin
8.06 Koya -- SP Lefty Gomez
8.07 Bogart -- SP Addie Joss
8.08 Doug B -- ON THE CLOCK
8.09 Harrier --
8.10 Pickles --
8.11 Sammy --
8.12 Nipsey --
8.13 Capella --
8.14 Lastresort --
8.15 Spock --
8.16 Pumpnick --
Gehringer was a good pick. So was Yount. Mathewson is an alltime great. Clemens and Glavine are modern players but one has 328 wins. The other has 260. Thomas and Williams....ugh. Pudge looks to be ok as a lot of catching is gone but there are 'alltime' catchers I liked more. Overall, you have a very different sense of 'alltime' than the rest of us. Better feel for it than in the NBA draft but still, much different. I look at your team and think what might have been. You could have selected more 'alltime' guys and still gotten some of your guys later. Time for me to leave the boat now.1. Bernie Williams - B+/A (1996)2. Charlie Gehringer - B-/A+ (1936)3. Robin Yount - A-/B+ at SS (1983)4. Frank Thomas - B/C his third season (1995)5. Ivan "Pudge" Rodriguez A/A (1994)Rotation:1. Christy Mathewson - 359 1.28 31-9 2 0.93 .199 1.70 5.48 0.11 (1905)2. Roger Clemens - 271 2.62 18-10 0 1.05 .212 2.16 7.99 0.50 (1991)3. Tom Glavine - 241 3.40 21-9 0 1.19 .235 2.43 5.68 0.90 (2000)not bad... I don't get the Glavine and Clemens seasons, but, ok, I guess... lol

This pick was so bad it broke the FBG server.Screw it ...
He's at the top of my sheet, and my team will lack sorely in power if I go in another direction here:
8.08 RF Sammy Sosa
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You really can not argue with Sosa. One of the better power hitters ever - even when you take into consideratoin the diluted pitching, ballpark(s) and the roids. He has been off my list for a while because of the strikeouts (I have one big strikeout guy already, and two others that are middle of the road), but he was running neck and neck with Big Mac not long ago.Screw it ...
He's at the top of my sheet, and my team will lack sorely in power if I go in another direction here:
8.08 RF Sammy Sosa
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..Updated order:
7.16 LarryBoy -- SP Tom Glavine
8.01 LarryBoy -- OF Bernie Williams
8.02 Spartans -- SP Ron Guidry
8.03 UCONN -- SP Catfish Hunter
8.04 Kraft -- 2B/3B/1B Paul Molitor
8.05 Funkley -- OF Goose Goslin
8.06 Koya -- SP Lefty Gomez
8.07 Bogart -- SP Addie Joss
8.08 Doug B -- OF Sammy Sosa
8.09 Harrier -- ON THE CLOCK
8.10 Pickles --
8.11 Sammy --
8.12 Nipsey --
8.13 Capella --
8.14 Lastresort --
8.15 Spock --
8.16 Pumpnick --
Aside from strikeouts, of which I'm well aware, I'm interested to hear your take.I don't want to hit Sosa higher than fifth because of his Ks. I took that into account. But some of the away parks in this sim are, in fact, nice power hitters stadiums:This pick was so bad it broke the FBG server.Screw it ...
He's at the top of my sheet, and my team will lack sorely in power if I go in another direction here:
8.08 RF Sammy Sosa
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It is no favor to Kiner to compare him to Sosa.I was suprised by the lack of love for my Kiner pick...lead the league in HR's 7 times in a row! Sosa has lead the league twice, total. Granted this is a few rounds later.
Sosa's not a bad pick. The only reason I said something is because I got back from lunch and the site was dead. Then when it came back your's was the last post in this thread.Aside from strikeouts, of which I'm well aware, I'm interested to hear your take.I don't want to hit Sosa higher than fifth because of his Ks. I took that into account. But some of the away parks in this sim are, in fact, nice power hitters stadiums:This pick was so bad it broke the FBG server.Screw it ...
He's at the top of my sheet, and my team will lack sorely in power if I go in another direction here:
8.08 RF Sammy Sosa
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Larryboy County Stadium, Milwaukee
Spartans Palace of the Fans, Cincinatti
UCONN Shibe Park (Connie Mack Stadium), Philadelphia
Kraft Fenway Park, Boston
funkley Sportsman's Park, St. Louis
Koya Ebbets Field, Brooklyn
bogart Ballpark at Arlington
Doug B Griffith Stadium, Washington, DC
Harrier Bank One Ballpark, Phoenix
Pickles Wrigley Field, Chicago
Sammy Tiger Stadium, Detroit
Nipsey Yankee Stadium, New York
Capella Polo Grounds, New York
lastresort Busch Stadium, St. Louis
Spock Braves Field, Boston
pumpnick Shea Stadium, Flushing
So, yeah, when I play at your place, Sosa may well be platooned ... or hit seventh or something. But most of the time, he'll give me much-needed pop from the right side.
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I liked the Kiner pick a lot but sometimes it's hard to know how to treat the guys who dominated for smaller stretches vs. big numbers accumulated over time. 369 hr 1,015 rbi 971 r .279 baI was suprised by the lack of love for my Kiner pick...lead the league in HR's 7 times in a row! Sosa has lead the league twice, total. Granted this is a few rounds later.
Sosa's not a bad pick. The only reason I said something is because I got back from lunch and the site was dead. Then when it came back your's was the last post in this thread.
I took you too seriously. The site did indeed die for a few minutes.I gave love for the Kiner pick. The Sandy Koufax of sluggers. 7 STRAIGHT, short outfield perch or not, is absolutely amazing. He had a good on base as well.. near .400 I think. Can hit 3, 4 or 5. Plus, he is one of the worst annoucers ever.I was suprised by the lack of love for my Kiner pick...lead the league in HR's 7 times in a row! Sosa has lead the league twice, total. Granted this is a few rounds later.
One of my favorites as a kid and a guy I hoped to grab later. Clearly I was wrong about where I thought he'd go. Great ratio's & solid to good k's. Nice pick.LHP Ron Guidry - Not too many left-handed Cy Young winners left. Guidry was a 4-time all-star, won two era titles and had an incredible 1978 Cy Young season. Also won 5 gold gloves for whatever that's worth.
Spartans... you pick a lot of guys I like. Guidry was the third pitcher on my list, behind Lefty Gomez and Glavine (hmm, three lefties.. shocker!). Did you give consideration to the other two? Curious to know what pushed Guidry over the top for you. He had a handful of great seasons, one ungodly year, but not quite enough staying power - and a lack of a 5-7 straight year stretch which seems to be the lower limit for pitches ala Koufax - to be propped into the elite.Not a lot of talk about my picks... Larry always seems to steal my thunder.3B Home Run Baker - One of the best power hitters of the deadball era, he led the league in HRs four straight seasons. Also racked up the extra base hits and stolen bases which will make him a good fit for my team. He was a pretty good defensive third baseman who never played so much as an out at any other position.Baker was also a clutch player who earned his nickname with 2 HRs in the 1911 World Series. He had career postseason average of .363LHP Ron Guidry - Not too many left-handed Cy Young winners left. Guidry was a 4-time all-star, won two era titles and had an incredible 1978 Cy Young season. Also won 5 gold gloves for whatever that's worth.
I was wondering where he'd go. Good pick.I'm not totally in love with this pick, but I have a glaring need at SS and there are very few good ones left. IMO, worse guys have already left the table much sooner, so it's actually a pleasure to select a well-rounded player like Barry Larkin.
Barry was the 1995 NL MVP and has a lifetime .295 average over 19 seasons. He is a very efficient baserunner with 379 steals and only caught 77 times (83% success rate). He won the Gold Glove at SS three times from '94-'96 and sports a .975 career fielding percentage at a very difficult position.
He is one of the most complete SS in history and will be a nice addition to my team.
I like this pick.I'm not totally in love with this pick, but I have a glaring need at SS and there are very few good ones left. IMO, worse guys have already left the table much sooner, so it's actually a pleasure to select a well-rounded player like Barry Larkin.
Barry was the 1995 NL MVP and has a lifetime .295 average over 19 seasons. He is a very efficient baserunner with 379 steals and only caught 77 times (83% success rate). He won the Gold Glove at SS three times from '94-'96 and sports a .975 career fielding percentage at a very difficult position.
He is one of the most complete SS in history and will be a nice addition to my team.
Pretty good pick, but may pass Arky Vaughn for the "Who the Hell Is That?" lead.Sorry for the delay... was having problems connecting to the server.
I'll take 2B Cupid Childs.
Basically had the exact same career as Eddie Collins, the 2.14 pick, except shorter.
At his peak, he was on base at a Bonds-like rate of .475
Childs hit .345 with a league-high 33 doubles in the 1890 American Association, setting a since-tied major league record with 18 chances accepted at second base in a nine-inning game that June 1. He joined the Cleveland Spiders (NL) in 1891 and became a vital cog in their offense, topping .300 in five of eight seasons and leading the league in runs scored in 1892 (136). His sharp batting eye made him an ideal lefthanded leadoff hitter; he walked 120 times while striking out only 12 in 1893. In 1894 he batted a career-high .353. (AJA)