***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (2 Viewers)

[Capella]

Save Ferris once suggested the idea of limiting the draft to World-Series era guys (1903-present), which seemed reasonable. But that's neither here nor there now.

well, we didn't. It was made 100% clear at the beginning of the draft, to everybody, including the 'special' folks like harrier.

Affirmative. No problem from my camp.

that's fine..just tired of that moron harping on it. he knew the rules, if he didn't want to play, he should've backed out.12 rounds in and he wants to #####. #### about it.

 

[mayday]

13.01 selection - Keith Hernandez 1B

Be careful - he may ask you to help him move!

 

[Bogart]

Not to start anything, but the pre-1900 pitchers do seem to taint the spirit of this exercise. Remind me why you didn't make them off-limits like the post-1994 guys?

Save Ferris once suggested the idea of limiting the draft to World-Series era guys (1903-present), which seemed reasonable. But that's neither here nor there now.

The best rule I have seen is you only get a certain number (normally 3) of "deadball" pitchers (played prior to 1913) and "deadball" hitters (played prior to 1898),as well you only get a certain number (3) "modern" hitters and "modern" pitchers (played in any season 1999 or after).This allows you to get the "studs" of every era, but noone stocks up on one era.

 

[Koya]

Some people are playing "for the sim" - from the start, the intent of this draft was to build "the best team" you can with the sim as "an afterthought" We will have FFA vote, Sim and it looks like a different forum vote and another sim. That should give us a good idea where we stand.

Word. And if you see my post above, I'll be able to run it in different eras for different results. It'll be interesting to see if the same teams are successful in each era.

Ahhh I understand. That is very cool.I thought you meant that we could run it in different eras, however todays players would always have more power, old pitchers (dead ball) would always have better stats.I like the sound of that. Deadball era is one thing, since it really was a different game (I am still interested in the results). But, to see how these teams fair in the high powered 30's vs. no power 70's and 80's will be very interesting. Barry Bonds beats Ruth for the HR title with 37 HRs, with third place going to Jimmy Foxx, with 32.

 

[Funkley]

Remember, Capella has the power to toss out some of these picks after the draft.

 

[10993]

We will have FFA vote, student council election popularity contest, Sim and it looks like a different forum vote and another sim.

there you go

As opposed to what? A stupid concoted best third high salary season on one sim sight?I would prefer to argue my case for FFA and have them either see it, or not, then judge hall of famers by their "third year"

I do believe many of us are holding to the spirit of the draft.. the others are certainly entitled to draft however they wish, within the confines of the rules.

I think the other baseball forum, if people in the draft are not already well-acquainted to them, will be far more accurate than the FFA, and most likely the most accurate measure. I think the Sim will certainly be more accurate than FFA, given that guys like Pete Rose who are big names will get lots of votes in the FFA (Congratulations, Capella, you've won!) but were not actually that good when compared to other top players. the sim is a better approximation, especially using the third year, of how good these players were over time.

 

[Pumpnick]

13.01 selection - Keith Hernandez 1B

Be careful - he may ask you to help him move!

As long as I don't have to drive him to the airport

 

[Politician Spock]

13.2 Trevor Hoffman - RH RP

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

does OOTP adjust for era? (i.e. will todays power numbers be lessened, and will the dead ball eras homers be increased)

You select the era and it adjusts the players to the style of play in that era. The way I understand it is that if you put Bonds in the deadball era, he'll still hit a lot of HR for that time but it'll be far below the norm for him now. And the opposite will be true of the deadball pitchers.That's how I understand it anyway. I haven't tested it or anything yet. I'll try to input some of the rosters (up to this point ) tonight if I can and then run some test simulations in different eras and see how they turn out.I probably won't publish the results of that here though. Don't want to skew the rest of the draft based on that info.

 

[Koya]

13.01 selection - Keith Hernandez 1B

NICE. One of my favorites. Also, one of the guys I thought would end up on my team (except I couldnt pass on Mize). Pretty good offensive player and possibly the best defensive 1B ever. He was great between the lines, even if he preferred to be snorting them.

 

[Capella]

I think the Sim will certainly be more accurate than FFA, given that guys like Pete Rose who are big names will get lots of votes in the FFA (Congratulations, Capella, you've won!) but were not actually that good when compared to other top players.

:rotflmao: loving the built-in excuses.

 

[10993]

Save Ferris once suggested the idea of limiting the draft to World-Series era guys (1903-present), which seemed reasonable. But that's neither here nor there now.

well, we didn't. It was made 100% clear at the beginning of the draft, to everybody, including the 'special' folks like harrier.

Affirmative. No problem from my camp.

that's fine..just tired of that moron harping on it. he knew the rules, if he didn't want to play, he should've backed out.12 rounds in and he wants to #####. #### about it.

I'll say whatever the #### I want, you pompous ####ing ###hole. It's not my fault you forgot to eliminate those pitchers, and each time someone chooses to go over the line and pick one, I'll call them on it. I like Pickles a lot, and I called him on it. It's not like I just #####ed out that pick. I said it was pathetic, and pointed to the 59-12 record and 678 innings to show why. If you can't handle reading that without getting your panties twisted up your ####, that's your own damn problem.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

13.01 selection - Keith Hernandez 1B

Elaine: "Well so what. I mean you played first base. I mean they always put the worst player on first base. That's were they put me and I stunk."Keith: "Elaine, you don't know the first thing about first base."

Elaine: "Well, I know something about getting to first base.. and I know that you'll never be there."

Keith: "The way I figure it I've already been there and I plan on rounding second

tonight at around eleven o'clock."

Elaine: "Well, uh, I'd watch the third base coach if I were you 'cause I don't think he's waving you in."

 

[10993]

I think the Sim will certainly be more accurate than FFA, given that guys like Pete Rose who are big names will get lots of votes in the FFA (Congratulations, Capella, you've won!) but were not actually that good when compared to other top players.

:rotflmao: loving the built-in excuses.

You're going to get your ### handed to you everywhere but the FFA, so if you've got excuses on the mind, I'd start getting them out now.

 

[Doug B]

We will have FFA vote, student council election popularity contest, Sim and it looks like a different forum vote and another sim.

there you go

I don't think it's as bad as all that.

 

[Capella]

Save Ferris once suggested the idea of limiting the draft to World-Series era guys (1903-present), which seemed reasonable. But that's neither here nor there now.

well, we didn't. It was made 100% clear at the beginning of the draft, to everybody, including the 'special' folks like harrier.

Affirmative. No problem from my camp.

that's fine..just tired of that moron harping on it. he knew the rules, if he didn't want to play, he should've backed out.12 rounds in and he wants to #####. #### about it.

I'll say whatever the #### I want, you pompous ####ing ###hole. It's not my fault you forgot to eliminate those pitchers, and each time someone chooses to go over the line and pick one, I'll call them on it. I like Pickles a lot, and I called him on it. It's not like I just #####ed out that pick. I said it was pathetic, and pointed to the 59-12 record and 678 innings to show why. If you can't handle reading that without getting your panties twisted up your ####, that's your own damn problem.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: want a kleenex?

you knew the rules, if they weren't up to what you wanted, you could've backed out.

 

[Koya]

We will have FFA vote, student council election popularity contest, Sim and it looks like a different forum vote and another sim.

there you go

As opposed to what? A stupid concoted best third high salary season on one sim sight?I would prefer to argue my case for FFA and have them either see it, or not, then judge hall of famers by their "third year"

I do believe many of us are holding to the spirit of the draft.. the others are certainly entitled to draft however they wish, within the confines of the rules.

I think the other baseball forum, if people in the draft are not already well-acquainted to them, will be far more accurate than the FFA, and most likely the most accurate measure. I think the Sim will certainly be more accurate than FFA, given that guys like Pete Rose who are big names will get lots of votes in the FFA (Congratulations, Capella, you've won!) but were not actually that good when compared to other top players. the sim is a better approximation, especially using the third year, of how good these players were over time.

I do agree with you. I think we should have forseen that by designating one year, some people would draft according to that year only. However, those are the rules and without unanimous vote, I am fine keeping them that way. This other sim seems really interesting I have to admit.

I have a total of maybe 3-5 posts on the baseball forum, and I doubt anyone is "clique" there. I would mention the name, but with this crew, politicing would being immediately.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

does OOTP adjust for era? (i.e. will todays power numbers be lessened, and will the dead ball eras homers be increased)

You select the era and it adjusts the players to the style of play in that era. The way I understand it is that if you put Bonds in the deadball era, he'll still hit a lot of HR for that time but it'll be far below the norm for him now. And the opposite will be true of the deadball pitchers.That's how I understand it anyway. I haven't tested it or anything yet. I'll try to input some of the rosters (up to this point ) tonight if I can and then run some test simulations in different eras and see how they turn out.I probably won't publish the results of that here though. Don't want to skew the rest of the draft based on that info.

Oh, and I think I saw somewhere that Win Shares are part of the OOTP engine.

 

[Capella]

Save Ferris once suggested the idea of limiting the draft to World-Series era guys (1903-present), which seemed reasonable. But that's neither here nor there now.

well, we didn't. It was made 100% clear at the beginning of the draft, to everybody, including the 'special' folks like harrier.

Affirmative. No problem from my camp.

that's fine..just tired of that moron harping on it. he knew the rules, if he didn't want to play, he should've backed out.12 rounds in and he wants to #####. #### about it.

I'll say whatever the #### I want, you pompous ####ing ###hole. It's not my fault you forgot to eliminate those pitchers, and each time someone chooses to go over the line and pick one, I'll call them on it. I like Pickles a lot, and I called him on it. It's not like I just #####ed out that pick. I said it was pathetic, and pointed to the 59-12 record and 678 innings to show why. If you can't handle reading that without getting your panties twisted up your ####, that's your own damn problem.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: want a kleenex?

you knew the rules, if they weren't up to what you wanted, you could've backed out.

by the way..I didn't forget. Somebody asked, and I said they were eligible.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

does OOTP adjust for era? (i.e. will todays power numbers be lessened, and will the dead ball eras homers be increased)

You select the era and it adjusts the players to the style of play in that era. The way I understand it is that if you put Bonds in the deadball era, he'll still hit a lot of HR for that time but it'll be far below the norm for him now. And the opposite will be true of the deadball pitchers.That's how I understand it anyway. I haven't tested it or anything yet. I'll try to input some of the rosters (up to this point ) tonight if I can and then run some test simulations in different eras and see how they turn out.I probably won't publish the results of that here though. Don't want to skew the rest of the draft based on that info.

Oh, and I think I saw somewhere that Win Shares are part of the OOTP engine.

Nice. I may have to get this.

 

[10993]

Save Ferris once suggested the idea of limiting the draft to World-Series era guys (1903-present), which seemed reasonable. But that's neither here nor there now.

well, we didn't. It was made 100% clear at the beginning of the draft, to everybody, including the 'special' folks like harrier.

Affirmative. No problem from my camp.

that's fine..just tired of that moron harping on it. he knew the rules, if he didn't want to play, he should've backed out.12 rounds in and he wants to #####. #### about it.

I'll say whatever the #### I want, you pompous ####ing ###hole. It's not my fault you forgot to eliminate those pitchers, and each time someone chooses to go over the line and pick one, I'll call them on it. I like Pickles a lot, and I called him on it. It's not like I just #####ed out that pick. I said it was pathetic, and pointed to the 59-12 record and 678 innings to show why. If you can't handle reading that without getting your panties twisted up your ####, that's your own damn problem.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: want a kleenex?

you knew the rules, if they weren't up to what you wanted, you could've backed out.

Like I said before, why would I back out when I'm in the middle of kicking your ###? The funnest part is yet to come.

 

[Koya]

Not to start anything, but the pre-1900 pitchers do seem to taint the spirit of this exercise. Remind me why you didn't make them off-limits like the post-1994 guys?

Because Capella is a #####

look at the little girly

great response. makes you less of a #####.

please. we are all douches. except me.

funniest thing you've written so far.

 

[Doug B]

13.2 Trevor Hoffman - RH RP

 

[Sammy3469]

I pm'd a couple of picks to Koya...I'm out for the rest of the night

 

[Koya]

13.2 Trevor Hoffman - RH RP

I cuncur. He was on the table for this next pick. Not no more.

 

[Funkley]

Wonder if Nipsey pays the maid by the hour?

 

[Capella]

by the way, that's my last post on the older pitchers. they are ALL eligible. if harrier wants to ##### and moan, or if others want to ##### and moan about it, feel free.

/ignore

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Nice. I may have to get this.

Don't quote me on that one. The DIPS one I'm sure of. The Win Shares I saw somewhere today but don't recall if it's actually in the engine or just one of the stats that it includes in the reports.I'll check it out.

 

[Nipsey]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap.

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

 

[oso diablo]

The DIPS one I'm sure of.

DIPS = Defense-Independent Pitching Stats? or something like thatIf so, some folks are going to be quite surprised at how their pitchers perform.

 

[Nipsey]

Wonder if Nipsey pays the maid by the hour?

She gets paid by the visit, usually takes 3-4 hours all together. Place is like a new house once she's been here. By next Thursday it'll be in bad shape again.

 

[Funkley]

Wonder if Nipsey pays the maid by the hour?

She gets paid by the visit, usually takes 3-4 hours all together. Place is like a new house once she's been here. By next Thursday it'll be in bad shape again.

We need a maid.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Nice. I may have to get this.

Don't quote me on that one. The DIPS one I'm sure of. The Win Shares I saw somewhere today but don't recall if it's actually in the engine or just one of the stats that it includes in the reports.I'll check it out.

well, i'm not a win shares junkie or anything, so it's not super important. all i know is if they put something even remotely like it in the sim, that would be pretty kick ###.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap.

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Nipsey, the guys salary is twice as high 'cuz he is able to pitch tons of innings in the Sim, not 'cuz he's better...as long as people don't play those pitchers for 600 innings in our season, he's really not worth that much money...

 

[Capella]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap.

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Cy Young didn't pitch in the 1890s?

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Wonder if Nipsey pays the maid by the hour?

She gets paid by the visit, usually takes 3-4 hours all together. Place is like a new house once she's been here. By next Thursday it'll be in bad shape again.

this i believe.you still living with joey lawrence?

 

[10993]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap.

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Cy Young didn't pitch in the 1890s?

Not the year he's using, no.

 

[lastresort66]

To make MrPoopyPants...er, MrHarrier happy, I'm gonna draft a guy who also spent most of his career in the 80's....the 1980's, that is.

RHP Jack Morris- bio

254 wins, 3824 IP, 2478 K's, 3.90 career ERA (meh, between 83-88, he averaged a 3.38 ERA).

 

[lastresort66]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap. 

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Cy Young didn't pitch in the 1890s?

Not the year he's using, no.

Oh, well, of course.

 

[Nipsey]

Wonder if Nipsey pays the maid by the hour?

She gets paid by the visit, usually takes 3-4 hours all together. Place is like a new house once she's been here. By next Thursday it'll be in bad shape again.

this i believe.you still living with joey lawrence?

Never did, but used to live w/ David Arquette. Close enough?

 

[10993]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap.

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Nipsey, the guys salary is twice as high 'cuz he is able to pitch tons of innings in the Sim, not 'cuz he's better...as long as people don't play those pitchers for 600 innings in our season, he's really not worth that much money...

It pretty much removes the need for drafting RP, Larry. He can throw him in relief for three days then have a CG start on the fourth.Wash, rinse, repeat.

 

[Nipsey]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap. 

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Nipsey, the guys salary is twice as high 'cuz he is able to pitch tons of innings in the Sim, not 'cuz he's better...as long as people don't play those pitchers for 600 innings in our season, he's really not worth that much money...

You keep believing that.

 

[Capella]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap. 

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Cy Young didn't pitch in the 1890s?

Not the year he's using, no.

so we should just do the draft based on all post-1900 pitchers according to 3rd-year eligibility on WIS.com?even though Cy and Old Hoss pitched in the same era and Cy was the 5th pick in the draft?

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

The DIPS one I'm sure of.

DIPS = Defense-Independent Pitching Stats? or something like thatIf so, some folks are going to be quite surprised at how their pitchers perform.

That's the one. You have the option of using that engine or the old one without DIPS. We can try both and see if there's a huge difference. Honestly, I have no idea what to expect from that but from what I've heard the stats are VERY realistic.

 

[Nipsey]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap. 

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Cy Young didn't pitch in the 1890s?

Not the year he's using, no.

 

[10993]

To make MrPoopyPants...er, MrHarrier happy, I'm gonna draft a guy who also spent most of his career in the 80's....the 1980's, that is.

RHP Jack Morris- bio

254 wins, 3824 IP, 2478 K's, 3.90 career ERA (meh, between 83-88, he averaged a 3.38 ERA).

:stillers: incorrect use of the owned... besides, i don't see how i gave you a hard time. just pointed out that drafting three pitchers in one was pathetic. there are meaner things that have been said.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

Never did, but used to live w/ David Arquette. Close enough?

Dude, you name-drop more than John Kerry in a televised debate.

 

[Capella]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap. 

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Cy Young didn't pitch in the 1890s?

Not the year he's using, no.

only if you're really stupid.Cy = Old Hoss when it comes to durability.

You yourself said you could pitch him everyday. And you took him in round 1

 

[10993]

Pickles, if you wanted to duck after the Mussina pick, I'm probably gonna have to find a crevace in the Grand Canyon to protect myself, because this pick is probably gonna p**s some people off because he floruished in the height of the deadball era, but I don't give a crap.

RHP Charley "Old Hoss" Radbourn- bio

309 wins, 4535 IP ( ), 1830 K's in 11 seasons, career 2.67 average.

Ok, let the torching begin.

Harrier is right. With this pick, the sim is officially dead. His best salary is 21 million dollars. To put that into perspective, Nolan Ryan's is 11.I recommended 40 pages ago that we ignore these pre 1900 guys. How can you possibly compete with that guy? All these guys going before him like Guidry, Brown, etc don't have half the salary of this guy. Dirty pool if you ask me....

Cy Young didn't pitch in the 1890s?

Not the year he's using, no.

so we should just do the draft based on all post-1900 pitchers according to 3rd-year eligibility on WIS.com?even though Cy and Old Hoss pitched in the same era and Cy was the 5th pick in the draft?

Cy's top three years were post-1900, not just the third. When the relevant part of a guy's career is post-1900, I'm not saying a word.

 

[Giant Wooden Badger]

When you guys hit a lull or end the round you're on, one of you guys that already has my email addy, send me a revised spreadsheet. TIAI'm heading home.