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***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (1 Viewer)
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lastresort66
Crude Noisemaker
What about from 82-89? Oh wait, Myers wasn't around.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
But only when you are comparing pitching indoors.
Sammy3469
Footballguy
Funkley
Collar: Up
Looked it up just to be sure.Jonathan Cheechoo.Yes, but he's got to be one of the few people in America with the only 3 vowels in his last name as OsMike Myers....both names start with 'M'. Jesse Orosco.....doesn't match at all.Tell that to Josh Snooto....
There are two E's in that name!
Nipsey
Footballguy
Talkin' about guys with three O's, like Snooto. No E's!Looked it up just to be sure.Jonathan Cheechoo.Yes, but he's got to be one of the few people in America with the only 3 vowels in his last name as OsMike Myers....both names start with 'M'. Jesse Orosco.....doesn't match at all.
Funkley
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Figured that flaw would be exposed at some point but it's all I had.Talkin' about guys with three O's, like Snooto. No E's!Looked it up just to be sure.Jonathan Cheechoo.Yes, but he's got to be one of the few people in America with the only 3 vowels in his last name as OsMike Myers....both names start with 'M'. Jesse Orosco.....doesn't match at all.
Nipsey
Footballguy
It was a good try. It really was....Figured that flaw would be exposed at some point but it's all I had.Talkin' about guys with three O's, like Snooto. No E's!Looked it up just to be sure.Jonathan Cheechoo.Yes, but he's got to be one of the few people in America with the only 3 vowels in his last name as OsMike Myers....both names start with 'M'. Jesse Orosco.....doesn't match at all.
Politician Spock
Footballguy
So at 1:36 AM EST, do I get to pick again even if pumpnick hasn't shown up? Or is the time limit only during business hours?
Wish people would leave lists.
Capella
Footballguy
:rotflmao: I honestly have very little interest in the FFA vote. Bobby Bonds was a hell of a player though. He's right there with Slaughter and Parker and a few other guys.Thanks Capella.No. I think the Bonds pick was OK. There were better guys out there, but it'll do. Remember, don't just take name guys, dig a little bit. Hang in there, you'll get it....
Politician Spock
Footballguy
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I think we need a Bron-Bron smiley:rotflmao: I honestly have very little interest in the FFA vote. Bobby Bonds was a hell of a player though. He's right there with Slaughter and Parker and a few other guys.Thanks Capella.No. I think the Bonds pick was OK. There were better guys out there, but it'll do. Remember, don't just take name guys, dig a little bit. Hang in there, you'll get it....
oso diablo
Footballguy
Koya, way earlier in the thread, you were asking about translated stat lines. I found some at Baseball Prospectus. For example, here's their page for Yaz.
Go about halfway down the page to Translated Batting Stats, where each year's raw stats are translated to a neutral ballpark and neutral era.
Would be good research for a draft like this, where so many folks lock in on 20/30s (or modern) hitters and dead-ball pitchers.
p.s. you may have to create a login to see those pages
Go about halfway down the page to Translated Batting Stats, where each year's raw stats are translated to a neutral ballpark and neutral era.
Would be good research for a draft like this, where so many folks lock in on 20/30s (or modern) hitters and dead-ball pitchers.
p.s. you may have to create a login to see those pages
oso diablo
Footballguy
on 2nd glance, the translations appear to be to the modern era, not to some fictional neutral era.You want a bigger surprise? Look up your Sam Crawford!wow, very cool. I was curious about Schmidt - so many homers but still a dead homer era.639 Career "equalized" HRs.Editted to add: Babe Ruth 932 HRS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Koya
Footballguy
on 2nd glance, the translations appear to be to the modern era, not to some fictional neutral era.You want a bigger surprise? Look up your Sam Crawford!wow, very cool. I was curious about Schmidt - so many homers but still a dead homer era.639 Career "equalized" HRs.
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larry_boy_44
Footballguy
according to Baseball Prospectus' equalized stats:AGE YEAR TEAM AB H 2B 3B HR BB HBP SO SB CS OUT RUN RBI BA OBA SA UEQR EQA EQR 23 1991 CHI-A 527 179 31 2 41 135 1 112 1 2 352 109 114 .340 .475 .639 134 .364 14026 1991 PIT-N 492 153 29 4 33 105 5 69 40 12 363 103 125 .311 .437 .587 114 .335 118Thomas with a higher BA, OB%, Slugging, HRs, Doubles, Hits, ABs, walks, and pretty much everything else (except Ks and 3Bs, & RBIs) 24 1992 CHI-A 544 188 45 2 36 119 5 88 6 3 370 119 126 .346 .467 .634 132 .358 142 27 1992 PIT-N 454 148 30 3 42 126 6 68 38 8 320 116 111 .326 .478 .683 125 .369 133Thomas has more ABs, Hits, Doubles, RBIs, BA.... less home runs, BBs, OB%, & Slugging 25 1993 CHI-A 524 173 31 0 50 106 2 52 4 2 367 108 128 .330 .445 .676 138 .354 136 28 1993 SF_-N 514 179 35 3 49 123 2 78 27 12 353 124 120 .348 .476 .714 152 .370 147Thomas has more ABs, HRs, RBIs... 26 1994 CHI-A 533 195 40 2 60 141 3 80 2 4 352 140 134 .366 .501 .786 132 .395 173 29 1994 SF_-N 528 168 21 1 51 101 8 58 43 14 378 119 109 .318 .435 .652 99 .345 132Thomas has more ABs, Hits, Doubles, HRs, Walks, RBIs, BA, OB%, Slugging.... 27 1995 CHI-A 527 172 27 0 48 138 7 77 3 2 372 108 117 .326 .472 .651 138 .361 146 30 1995 SF_-N 545 164 33 5 39 127 5 86 32 12 397 116 112 .301 .437 .594 124 .337 131Thomas has less ABs, but more hits, HRs, Walks, & RBIs... Higher BA, OB%, Slugging... 28 1996 CHI-A 492 176 22 0 42 97 5 64 1 1 326 101 121 .358 .468 .659 144 .363 129 31 1996 SF_-N 495 156 24 3 41 143 1 69 37 8 353 112 119 .315 .469 .624 147 .357 135Thomas has fewer ABs, more hits, HRs, RBIs, BA, & Slugging... 29 1997 CHI-A 497 179 29 0 39 104 3 61 1 1 327 107 120 .360 .473 .654 137 .365 132 32 1997 SF_-N 517 155 24 4 41 136 7 80 35 8 375 118 98 .300 .452 .600 138 .346 132Thomas has fewer ABs, more hits, Doubles, RBIs, BA, OB%, & Slugging 30 1998 CHI-A 549 149 33 1 32 108 6 82 7 0 412 104 104 .271 .396 .510 113 .308 108 33 1998 SF_-N 532 168 40 5 37 121 7 84 30 14 385 113 115 .316 .449 .618 141 .343 132Thomas has more ABs and that is pretty much it since this year absolutely sucked for him... 31 1999 CHI-A 468 142 26 0 19 80 8 62 3 3 338 69 71 .303 .414 .481 97 .307 88 34 1999 SF_-N 339 90 21 2 33 63 3 58 13 2 254 83 76 .265 .385 .631 85 .325 77Thomas has more ABs, Hits, Doubles, BA, OB%....for good measure: 32 2000 CHI-A 558 181 36 0 45 102 5 88 1 3 389 104 127 .324 .433 .631 150 .342 133 35 2000 SF_-N 461 145 28 4 48 100 3 71 10 3 326 118 98 .315 .439 .705 137 .357 124Thomas has more ABs, more hits, more doubles, more BB, higher BA...So, according to BaseballProspectus' translated stats Thomas was better 6 times from 1991-2000, Bonds was better 3 times, and they were tied once...and this is at the plate, not counting fielding/baserunning, where Bonds is obviously much better...
Why are you looking at equalized stats when they're from the exact same years?Besides, you're
with your evaluation of what is better at different times, and breaking it up year by year. Basically, you'll contort the stats to prove whatever you can't sell in the world of reality.You are the only person in the world that thinks Thomas was a better batter than Bonds, at any point, ever.
larry_boy_44
Footballguy
only because Bonds has the reputation from teh last 4 years...If the last 4 years hadn't happened, Thomas would be considered the best hitter of the 90s...I showed like 150 pages ago that Thomas had better actual stats than Bonds...equalized (for park, pitching, etc.) Thomas is even better than Bonds...Why are you looking at equalized stats when they're from the exact same years?Besides, you're
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Politician Spock
Footballguy
Edgar Martinez was better than Thomas in three of those years as well.And I got him in the 17th round.
