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You were the only one against it. That would be 15-1. In your democracy you speak of, that's called getting own3d:And that's why you can't be the commish.
I think this speaks more to my qualifications to commish than anything else. I foresaw the difficulties that would come with involving teams that didn't go throught he same draft processes and follow the same rules as the other teams. I was really glad to have oso, trefor, and GWB around. I like those guys. I just saw the problems that would crop up--and that's why we'll move to a full 24 teams or two 12-team drafts next time.It happened, Capella.
 
Ive noticed all my small ball players have averages close to their normal, but my sluggers and all around hitters w/ power are sucking wind, outside of Arod. Schmidt, Griffey and Mize are sucking. Ashburn, Fox, Cuyler and even freakin Bubbles are doin great. Interesting.

 
Has oso been on here all day, or am I going to have to face 150 Mariano Riveras again?
I've decided that it wouldn't be inappropriate to play all 3 Vlad Guerreros in outfield and go with an all Jeter infield. Is that cool?TIA
 
I'd be in a 1900-1990 draft...a few questions:1. it would be third or WORSE WIS season, right?2. all players who played during 1900-1990 are eligible or only seasons from 1900-1990 are eligible?? AKA - could we use Bonds' 2003 season or Clemens 2001 season???
1) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May2) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-MayHTH
The only fair way to do it the next time around is to take seasons 1-4, throw them in a hat and have somone impartial like Drifter tell us AFTER the draft what season we'll use.
I said earlier I'll be using Irony.com dice roll to determine the season, AFTER the draft is over.No more sim- :fishing:
yes, but what if we get screwed 'cuz the player tore an ACL or something? We should pick a # of seasons to use (like 5 or 7) and go from there... that way guys with only 5 great seasons are in a little trouble, but not horrible...and a 25th round pick on Brady Anderson might be worth it in case you get his huge season (which adds a TON of strategy to it, too... one-year wonders are worth taking a flyer or two on...)
 
Has oso been on here all day, or am I going to have to face 150 Mariano Riveras again?
I've decided that it wouldn't be inappropriate to play all 3 Vlad Guerreros in outfield and go with an all Jeter infield. Is that cool?TIA
Commish Rules:In the upcoming league, trefor, I'm afraid this won't be allowed. I'm sorry, I really must look after the interest of the league in this case.

In this league, who knows? I figure go for it--what's the worst that could happen?

 
Ive noticed all my small ball players have averages close to their normal, but my sluggers and all around hitters w/ power are sucking wind, outside of Arod. Schmidt, Griffey and Mize are sucking. Ashburn, Fox, Cuyler and even freakin Bubbles are doin great. Interesting.
That's due to your recent 4 game visit to Braves field. Small ball works there. Slugging don't.
 
I'd be in a 1900-1990 draft...a few questions:1. it would be third or WORSE WIS season, right?2. all players who played during 1900-1990 are eligible or only seasons from 1900-1990 are eligible?? AKA - could we use Bonds' 2003 season or Clemens 2001 season???
1) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May2) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-MayHTH
The only fair way to do it the next time around is to take seasons 1-4, throw them in a hat and have somone impartial like Drifter tell us AFTER the draft what season we'll use.
Well, if we are going to use WIS, then it would be fair for everyone pretty much either way. In this draft, the intent was "best all time baseball team" with no clear determination of what will earn that moniker. Maybe the FFA vote (um, not likely), maybe the SIM (um, not likely), maybe just general board consensus, maybe OOTP or another forum... and in all likelihood, none of the above and a little of all the above.If we went into a draft knowing it was WIS third year or worse, then obviously sim fishing would be a part of the game. You would draft players to perform well in the sim.Unlike here, where we all agreed to draft "best teams" and then the sim was to be an afterthough or other component along with FFA vote. Hypothetically.
we could do like a combined standings from 4 or 5 different sources with points given out for winning, placing in 2nd-whatever, etc. in each of the different aspects...
 
Since we are back to rules, I would say 4th or 5th or worse, but get to choose. You want faster Gwynn, great. Want pudgeboy, thats fine too.

 
I'd be in a 1900-1990 draft...

a few questions:

1. it would be third or WORSE WIS season, right?

2. all players who played during 1900-1990 are eligible or only seasons from 1900-1990 are eligible?? AKA - could we use Bonds' 2003 season or Clemens 2001 season???
1) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May2) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May

HTH
The only fair way to do it the next time around is to take seasons 1-4, throw them in a hat and have somone impartial like Drifter tell us AFTER the draft what season we'll use.
I said earlier I'll be using Irony.com dice roll to determine the season, AFTER the draft is over.No more sim- :fishing:
yes, but what if we get screwed 'cuz the player tore an ACL or something? We should pick a # of seasons to use (like 5 or 7) and go from there... that way guys with only 5 great seasons are in a little trouble, but not horrible...and a 25th round pick on Brady Anderson might be worth it in case you get his huge season (which adds a TON of strategy to it, too... one-year wonders are worth taking a flyer or two on...)
Commish Rules:What we'll do, Larry, is a dice roll between the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th seasons. That way no one with just one good season would be at all valuable, even in the 25th round. I've yet to decide if the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th-best seasons will all be equally weighted, or if there should be a higher percentage weight to one side or the other of that, but I'm very interested to hear ideas and input on this.

 
Ive noticed all my small ball players have averages close to their normal, but my sluggers and all around hitters w/ power are sucking wind, outside of Arod. Schmidt, Griffey and Mize are sucking. Ashburn, Fox, Cuyler and even freakin Bubbles are doin great. Interesting.
That's due to your recent 4 game visit to Braves field. Small ball works there. Slugging don't.
I have had plenty of games elsewhere. Plus, my sluggers do hit for average, however they are all FAR below average while my average hitters are mostly at, if not above. They arent getting the singles or doubles even if the homers were not there. :shrug:
 
I'd be in a 1900-1990 draft...a few questions:1. it would be third or WORSE WIS season, right?2. all players who played during 1900-1990 are eligible or only seasons from 1900-1990 are eligible?? AKA - could we use Bonds' 2003 season or Clemens 2001 season???
1) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May2) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-MayHTH
The only fair way to do it the next time around is to take seasons 1-4, throw them in a hat and have somone impartial like Drifter tell us AFTER the draft what season we'll use.
I said earlier I'll be using Irony.com dice roll to determine the season, AFTER the draft is over.No more sim- :fishing:
yes, but what if we get screwed 'cuz the player tore an ACL or something? We should pick a # of seasons to use (like 5 or 7) and go from there... that way guys with only 5 great seasons are in a little trouble, but not horrible...and a 25th round pick on Brady Anderson might be worth it in case you get his huge season (which adds a TON of strategy to it, too... one-year wonders are worth taking a flyer or two on...)
I like this idea and would even suggest using two dice. That way the number rolled could be anywhere between 2-12 and have great odds of being near 7. Subtract one and add one to the rolled number and you have your three year allowable range. Makes you think about taking a shot a Brady Anderson, but also makes a guy like Eddie Murray more valuable if a 12 is rolled.
 
Do we want to trust the league to someone who can't spell 'amateur'?
No. And for that reason, I think it's clear that I'm the right choice for commish. I have the clearest mind for details and rules, and the most decisive and consistent viewpoints.Of course, it would be impossible for me to commish if I favored my own interests in the draft. As I do not deny this, but still am willing to commish, I will decline to participate with a team, and will instead act as a David Stern, who owns no team but values all owners and their participation.
my vote goes to Harrier as of right now...if he's willing not to have a team, that would be "best" in a lot of ways... and since we found someone who is willing to not have a team, that person would be good to be the person in charge...
 
Do we want to trust the league to someone who can't spell 'amateur'?
No. And for that reason, I think it's clear that I'm the right choice for commish. I have the clearest mind for details and rules, and the most decisive and consistent viewpoints.Of course, it would be impossible for me to commish if I favored my own interests in the draft. As I do not deny this, but still am willing to commish, I will decline to participate with a team, and will instead act as a David Stern, who owns no team but values all owners and their participation.
my vote goes to Harrier as of right now...if he's willing not to have a team, that would be "best" in a lot of ways... and since we found someone who is willing to not have a team, that person would be good to be the person in charge...
MOMENTUM GAINING...
 
You were the only one against it. That would be 15-1. In your democracy you speak of, that's called getting own3d:And that's why you can't be the commish.
I think this speaks more to my qualifications to commish than anything else. I foresaw the difficulties that would come with involving teams that didn't go throught he same draft processes and follow the same rules as the other teams. I was really glad to have oso, trefor, and GWB around. I like those guys. I just saw the problems that would crop up--and that's why we'll move to a full 24 teams or two 12-team drafts next time.It happened, Capella.
What difficulties?GWB is 5-12, Oso is using the wrong year and Tref has played 6 games against dummy teams and then another set against the Leftovers. Not exactly a brutal schedule.A commish is supposed to be able to look ahead, for the betterment of the league. Not look at a 15 game sample and determine that's how the whole year is going to play out. That's shortsighted and ignorant. That makes you Gary Bettman to my Pete Rozelle. You'd rather have Pete run a league than Gary, wouldn't you (by the way, it just happened, harrier).But of course, I already knew all that. Adding three real teams into competition (and that's what this is in a way) trumps having eight pathetic dummy teams that are a waste of time, space and money. And everybody who voted for it knew that."Ouch.":goodposting: :own3d:
 
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Do we want to trust the league to someone who can't spell 'amateur'?
No. And for that reason, I think it's clear that I'm the right choice for commish. I have the clearest mind for details and rules, and the most decisive and consistent viewpoints.Of course, it would be impossible for me to commish if I favored my own interests in the draft. As I do not deny this, but still am willing to commish, I will decline to participate with a team, and will instead act as a David Stern, who owns no team but values all owners and their participation.
my vote goes to Harrier as of right now...if he's willing not to have a team, that would be "best" in a lot of ways... and since we found someone who is willing to not have a team, that person would be good to be the person in charge...
MOMENTUM GAINING...
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Good :fishing: here. Try not to get the kiddies hopes up.

 
I'd be in a 1900-1990 draft...a few questions:1. it would be third or WORSE WIS season, right?2. all players who played during 1900-1990 are eligible or only seasons from 1900-1990 are eligible?? AKA - could we use Bonds' 2003 season or Clemens 2001 season???
1) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May2) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-MayHTH
The only fair way to do it the next time around is to take seasons 1-4, throw them in a hat and have somone impartial like Drifter tell us AFTER the draft what season we'll use.
I said earlier I'll be using Irony.com dice roll to determine the season, AFTER the draft is over.No more sim- :fishing:
yes, but what if we get screwed 'cuz the player tore an ACL or something? We should pick a # of seasons to use (like 5 or 7) and go from there... that way guys with only 5 great seasons are in a little trouble, but not horrible...and a 25th round pick on Brady Anderson might be worth it in case you get his huge season (which adds a TON of strategy to it, too... one-year wonders are worth taking a flyer or two on...)
I like this idea and would even suggest using two dice. That way the number rolled could be anywhere between 2-12 and have great odds of being near 7. Subtract one and add one to the rolled number and you have your three year allowable range. Makes you think about taking a shot a Brady Anderson, but also makes a guy like Eddie Murray more valuable if a 12 is rolled.
If we tread WAY back, I suggested this long long ago. To compensate for players that were great but inconsistent. Ripken is a great example. Do you get a .330 year or a .267 year?Interesting take.
 
Do we want to trust the league to someone who can't spell 'amateur'?
No. And for that reason, I think it's clear that I'm the right choice for commish. I have the clearest mind for details and rules, and the most decisive and consistent viewpoints.Of course, it would be impossible for me to commish if I favored my own interests in the draft. As I do not deny this, but still am willing to commish, I will decline to participate with a team, and will instead act as a David Stern, who owns no team but values all owners and their participation.
my vote goes to Harrier as of right now...if he's willing not to have a team, that would be "best" in a lot of ways... and since we found someone who is willing to not have a team, that person would be good to be the person in charge...
When even my ideological opponent LB supports my candidacy, you know something's going right.Thanks for the vote of confidence, Larry.
 
Since we are back to rules, I would say 4th or 5th or worse, but get to choose. You want faster Gwynn, great. Want pudgeboy, thats fine too.
I've heard Tony prefers to be called the Marshmallow man. Pudgeboy is so unsavory.
 
Do we want to trust the league to someone who can't spell 'amateur'?
No. And for that reason, I think it's clear that I'm the right choice for commish. I have the clearest mind for details and rules, and the most decisive and consistent viewpoints.Of course, it would be impossible for me to commish if I favored my own interests in the draft. As I do not deny this, but still am willing to commish, I will decline to participate with a team, and will instead act as a David Stern, who owns no team but values all owners and their participation.
my vote goes to Harrier as of right now...if he's willing not to have a team, that would be "best" in a lot of ways... and since we found someone who is willing to not have a team, that person would be good to be the person in charge...
When even my ideological opponent LB supports my candidacy, you know something's going right.Thanks for the vote of confidence, Larry.
Alias Outed.We knew it had to be. But the source, is a surprise.
 
If you really believed in what you're saying, you wouldn't need all this.You know as well as we all do, Cappy--it's time to take yourself out of the running for this one. I personally think you will enjoy being free to compete unfetterd by questioning of the motivations and effects of your decisions. Your team might really turn out good in such a setup.
 
If you really believed in what you're saying, you wouldn't need all this.You know as well as we all do, Cappy--it's time to take yourself out of the running for this one. I personally think you will enjoy being free to compete unfetterd by questioning of the motivations and effects of your decisions. Your team might really turn out good in such a setup.
Only if you teach me how to sim-fish.Will you teach me how to sim-fish?
 
I'd be in a 1900-1990 draft...

a few questions:

1. it would be third or WORSE WIS season, right?

2. all players who played during 1900-1990 are eligible or only seasons from 1900-1990 are eligible?? AKA - could we use Bonds' 2003 season or Clemens 2001 season???
1) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May2) I don't know, we'll discuss it in April-May

HTH
The only fair way to do it the next time around is to take seasons 1-4, throw them in a hat and have somone impartial like Drifter tell us AFTER the draft what season we'll use.
I said earlier I'll be using Irony.com dice roll to determine the season, AFTER the draft is over.No more sim- :fishing:
yes, but what if we get screwed 'cuz the player tore an ACL or something? We should pick a # of seasons to use (like 5 or 7) and go from there... that way guys with only 5 great seasons are in a little trouble, but not horrible...and a 25th round pick on Brady Anderson might be worth it in case you get his huge season (which adds a TON of strategy to it, too... one-year wonders are worth taking a flyer or two on...)
Commish Rules:What we'll do, Larry, is a dice roll between the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th seasons. That way no one with just one good season would be at all valuable, even in the 25th round. I've yet to decide if the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th-best seasons will all be equally weighted, or if there should be a higher percentage weight to one side or the other of that, but I'm very interested to hear ideas and input on this.
I would almost think a dice roll between 2-6 would work...18 sides dice...

2 - 2

3 - 4

4 - 6

5 - 4

6 - 2

something like that, maybe...

 
I will say this about Cappy - I have NEVER been concerned his decisions were based upon his teams needs/situation, ever. Never questioned his motivations.Might have been things I would have done different - but that is true of anyone I am sure - but I do not question that he is objective and fair in his approach.

 
If you really believed in what you're saying, you wouldn't need all this.You know as well as we all do, Cappy--it's time to take yourself out of the running for this one. I personally think you will enjoy being free to compete unfetterd by questioning of the motivations and effects of your decisions. Your team might really turn out good in such a setup.
Only if you teach me how to sim-fish.Will you teach me how to sim-fish?
I can't imagine it will be of issue in the upcoming draft. It's hard to complain about the commish's tactics when he has recused himself from participation.Don't worry so much about it, Cappy. You've done a good job on this one, more or less, and there's a lot of time left in it--till mid-April, at least. And I'm sure other forms of power and validation will present themselves to you while I'm commishing the second league.
 
Commissioner-elect Harrier. What about the players who can play multiple positions? If we're stuck with a roll of the dice we may get a sub-optimal position and thus find our defense f-d. I like to call this the Charlie Hustle Blows at 3rd clause.Signed,Confused in St. Paul

 
I will say this about Cappy - I have NEVER been concerned his decisions were based upon his teams needs/situation, ever. Never questioned his motivations.Might have been things I would have done different - but that is true of anyone I am sure - but I do not question that he is objective and fair in his approach.
Honestly, neither have I. But it will be good to never have to even have the potential for it. It's why David Stern is better to commish than Bud Selig.
 
Commissioner-elect Harrier. What about the players who can play multiple positions? If we're stuck with a roll of the dice we may get a sub-optimal position and thus find our defense f-d. I like to call this the Charlie Hustle Blows at 3rd clause.

Signed,

Confused in St. Paul
Commish RulesWe will allow for players to be drafted for a specific position, assuming that was a position that the player was well-known for playing, and played for years. Thus, Mel Ott could be drafted specifically at OF, or without any positional requirements, but could not be drafted specifically at 3B.

 
Do we want to trust the league to someone who can't spell 'amateur'?
No. And for that reason, I think it's clear that I'm the right choice for commish. I have the clearest mind for details and rules, and the most decisive and consistent viewpoints.Of course, it would be impossible for me to commish if I favored my own interests in the draft. As I do not deny this, but still am willing to commish, I will decline to participate with a team, and will instead act as a David Stern, who owns no team but values all owners and their participation.
my vote goes to Harrier as of right now...if he's willing not to have a team, that would be "best" in a lot of ways... and since we found someone who is willing to not have a team, that person would be good to be the person in charge...
When even my ideological opponent LB supports my candidacy, you know something's going right.Thanks for the vote of confidence, Larry.
i kinda disagree with your first thought on dice rolls... and think that the roll 2 dice (2 6-sided dice online) and you add 1 and subtract one and get those years to pick from...if you get a 3, you get season 2-4...and the years we use can still be WIS' years...if the player doesn't have 12 seasons, and the number rolled is higher than what they have, they get a pick of the worst 2 seasons the player had... (maybe.. we can discuss this more...)
 
4-3 win after a 9th inning rally over King Kelly's All Stars. Rudnicki, WTF did you do to this team?
Who is he, and why is he almost winning games?
Cappy made him the new owner of a "dummy" team. I've beaten his "dummy" team by one run each of the last two games.Must be because my team sucks--right? Couldn't be anything else.
 
I will say this about Cappy - I have NEVER been concerned his decisions were based upon his teams needs/situation, ever. Never questioned his motivations.Might have been things I would have done different - but that is true of anyone I am sure - but I do not question that he is objective and fair in his approach.
Honestly, neither have I. But it will be good to never have to even have the potential for it. It's why David Stern is better to commish than Bud Selig.
I dont disagree that an uninvolved party is, by definition, less biased.
 
4-3 win after a 9th inning rally over King Kelly's All Stars. Rudnicki, WTF did you do to this team?
Question! Why does this "crappy" team have pitchers who are 19-11, 16-5, and 15-6, as well as a guy with a 1.41 ERA and a 9.65 SO/9 innings ratio?THAT'S NOT WHY YOU'RE HERE!
 
4-3 win after a 9th inning rally over King Kelly's All Stars. Rudnicki, WTF did you do to this team?
Question! Why does this "crappy" team have pitchers who are 19-11, 16-5, and 15-6, as well as a guy with a 1.41 ERA and a 9.65 SO/9 innings ratio?THAT'S NOT WHY YOU'RE HERE!
What the ####--Aaron's team has that? Oh good god...Cappy? It happened, Cappy.
 
If you really believed in what you're saying, you wouldn't need all this.You know as well as we all do, Cappy--it's time to take yourself out of the running for this one. I personally think you will enjoy being free to compete unfetterd by questioning of the motivations and effects of your decisions. Your team might really turn out good in such a setup.
Only if you teach me how to sim-fish.Will you teach me how to sim-fish?
I can't imagine it will be of issue in the upcoming draft. It's hard to complain about the commish's tactics when he has recused himself from participation.Don't worry so much about it, Cappy. You've done a good job on this one, more or less, and there's a lot of time left in it--till mid-April, at least. And I'm sure other forms of power and validation will present themselves to you while I'm commishing the second league.
I have a few reasons to back Harrier:1. the same person shouldn't commish twice in a row...2. if at all possible, the commish shouldn't play... if someone is willing to not play, they are the commish...3. Capella deserves the time off, he's done a GREAT job with this... even though, like has been said, I might have done things different, I think he has done a good job...
 
4-3 win after a 9th inning rally over King Kelly's All Stars. Rudnicki, WTF did you do to this team?
Question! Why does this "crappy" team have pitchers who are 19-11, 16-5, and 15-6, as well as a guy with a 1.41 ERA and a 9.65 SO/9 innings ratio?THAT'S NOT WHY YOU'RE HERE!
Also a batter at .306, another with 26 HR.
 
Commissioner-elect Harrier. What about the players who can play multiple positions? If we're stuck with a roll of the dice we may get a sub-optimal position and thus find our defense f-d. I like to call this the Charlie Hustle Blows at 3rd clause.

Signed,

Confused in St. Paul
Commish RulesWe will allow for players to be drafted for a specific position, assuming that was a position that the player was well-known for playing, and played for years. Thus, Mel Ott could be drafted specifically at OF, or without any positional requirements, but could not be drafted specifically at 3B.
what about guys who never played at one position long enough to be known there??I mean, if a guy played 200+ games at 5 different positions, he isn't gonna be well known at any of them...

 
If you really believed in what you're saying, you wouldn't need all this.You know as well as we all do, Cappy--it's time to take yourself out of the running for this one. I personally think you will enjoy being free to compete unfetterd by questioning of the motivations and effects of your decisions. Your team might really turn out good in such a setup.
Only if you teach me how to sim-fish.Will you teach me how to sim-fish?
I can't imagine it will be of issue in the upcoming draft. It's hard to complain about the commish's tactics when he has recused himself from participation.Don't worry so much about it, Cappy. You've done a good job on this one, more or less, and there's a lot of time left in it--till mid-April, at least. And I'm sure other forms of power and validation will present themselves to you while I'm commishing the second league.
I have a few reasons to back Harrier:1. the same person shouldn't commish twice in a row...2. if at all possible, the commish shouldn't play... if someone is willing to not play, they are the commish...3. Capella deserves the time off, he's done a GREAT job with this... even though, like has been said, I might have done things different, I think he has done a good job...
:lol: @ LB taking this seriously....Mr. Rudnicki...please explain to me how to upload an avatar of my choosing (I've done this many times before but for some reason can't now) like I'm the ######ed offspring of LB and his sister. TIA. Just trying to put a nice jpeg image of Miss Taurasi on there. Nothing fancy. Well within the size limit. Keep getting the red X.
 
4-3 win after a 9th inning rally over King Kelly's All Stars. Rudnicki, WTF did you do to this team?
Question! Why does this "crappy" team have pitchers who are 19-11, 16-5, and 15-6, as well as a guy with a 1.41 ERA and a 9.65 SO/9 innings ratio?THAT'S NOT WHY YOU'RE HERE!
look at the ERAs, they aren't good... they just "won" 'cuz they were on offensive teams...
 
4-3 win after a 9th inning rally over King Kelly's All Stars. Rudnicki, WTF did you do to this team?
Question! Why does this "crappy" team have pitchers who are 19-11, 16-5, and 15-6, as well as a guy with a 1.41 ERA and a 9.65 SO/9 innings ratio?THAT'S NOT WHY YOU'RE HERE!
The pitcher I faced today was the 19-11.
 

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