***OFFICIAL*** FFA MLB Draft (3 Viewers)

[Capella]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong? 

here is what was said:

Another problem comes in to play with players who were both SP and RP.

Dennis Eckersley's lights out 1990 season, complete with 0.61 ERA and 73/4 K/BB ratio, is salaried much lower than a bunch of mediocre starting pitching seasons. Clearly that was his best career season and one that shouldn't be allowed in our game.

this is the big problem..say for some reason that ruth's 3rd-best season was one where he was a SP..obviously you'd want him as an OF (I'm sure this isn't the case, just saying)..that presents a problem.

wish we had thought of this beforehand.

maybe we can work something out where players who served dual-roles in their career, and the sim doesn't allow for it, we could have it be their 3rd-best year at that position the draftor requests? say for eck, his 3rd-best year as a RP, and for Babe, his 3rd-best year as an OF?

make sense?

I think this makes sense only with the pitching roles. So SP/RP, OF/SP, etc.Otherwise, people already made, or didn't make, draft choices based on the positional (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/OF) eligbility of players, and it wouldn't be fair to change it at this point.

well yeah, I agree..

I could go for that w/ pitchers. I think the only people it will effect are relief pitchers that started at the beginning of their career. I've already checked all your Babe Ruth types and nobody significant has a pitching year get in the way. W/ and Eck (or I guess a guy like Smoltz) I've got no problem if a guy wants to use a lesser salary to get the "reliever version" of that type of player if everybody agrees w/ it. I'm also not against going for "any season after 3rd highest salary" w/ position players, but if anybody is against it (and Harrier for one has said he is) I don't think it's fair to change the rules w/out unanimous agreement after it gets going.also adding in I didn't mean to go after Nipsey for questioning things. I come off as less than patient over a computer sometimes because I speak very plainly (and Nipsey likes to say this is being "holier than though" or something when actually it is just me being very literal). If he has legit questions over the rules that is cool. I don't think they are all that complicated...certainly not to the point where you can't fire a quick question to Cappy and then accept his judgement, but what do I know.

where in that does it say that you MUST use the third best reliever year? It says you can, not you must...

keep digging, bucko..

where is it?or was it never said?

gee larry, I don't have the page written down.you can assume if 15 of us are saying it, that it was probably true. we didn't just all make it up in our heads.

 

[larry_boy_44]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong?

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

 

[Paul Quantrill]

Larry Boy, you have got to be kidding...I belong in an all-time baseball great draft the same way you belong on an ethics panel...Saying "I didn't break any rules", when you know fully well you've skirted them at the very least, is the last refuge of a scoundrel...

 

[Politician Spock]

13 Members: Capella, larry_boy_44, thorn2000, Kilgore Trout, Paul Quantrill, Politician Spock, Aaron Rudnicki, The noD, John Martinez, ScottNorwood, IndividuallyWrapedKraftSingles, Truckasaurus II, Koya

Pickles?

 

[Capella]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong? 

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

 

[Politician Spock]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong? 

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

Admitted loopholefishers forfeit their right to a refund.

 

[larry_boy_44]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong?

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

 

[Politician Spock]

The larryboy Vote!

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I just got a PM from John, he'll be here shortly....

later Nipsey, I'll see you after your done using your alias...:rotflmao:

Larry -First of all, this is not Nipsey's alias. This has been proven.

Secondly, this whole scenario reminds me of my first league. I was just out of the Marines. My first pick ever was Tom Goodwin. (What can I say? I was young.) Anywho, we used the same structure you guys do (using 3rd best seasons). Some yahoo decides to do the exact same thing Larry decides to do. Just ruined the whole league. A lot of hearts were broken, and a lot of trust was lost. It was really sad.

So, I end up re-enlisting back in the Marines. I was pissed off. Around year two of the re-enlistment I'm stationed in Guam (my home now). We go to the mess for some chow and wouldn't you know, the guy who ruined our league ended up enlisting as well and was in my detail! He apologized and told me how he went through so much after blowing the league up. I heard his story and I forgave him. Today, he and I can joke about it, but sometimes deep down I can feel the fire roaring. Still hurts.

The moral of the story is: it's not worth it. Change your relievers back to the year they should be. It almost cost me a friend. "It almost cost me my life."

John Martinez

Owner What if Sports

PS Capella...can you tell me how to make the little "TM"?

Great story. GB you.semper fi John!

 

[Capella]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong? 

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

 

[larry_boy_44]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong?

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

Capella, that's the thing, though... I already quoted it... (look up)You didn't say that we had to use it... you just said we could...

 

[Politician Spock]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong? 

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

Capella, that's the thing, though... I already quoted it... (look up)You didn't say that we had to use it... you just said we could...

You already got your way. Why continue?

 

[Capella]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong? 

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

Capella, that's the thing, though... I already quoted it... (look up)You didn't say that we had to use it... you just said we could...

maybe we can work something out where players who served dual-roles in their career, and the sim doesn't allow for it, we could have it be their 3rd-best year at that position the draftor requests? say for eck, his 3rd-best year as a RP, and for Babe, his 3rd-best year as an OF?

sounds pretty straighforward to me.

 

[larry_boy_44]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong?

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

Capella, that's the thing, though... I already quoted it... (look up)You didn't say that we had to use it... you just said we could...

You already got your way. Why continue?

because he's wrong...and the whole league didn't agree that I did wrong...

like 4 people have said they think that I did...

no one else has said anything...

 

[10993]

Another problem comes in to play with players who were both SP and RP.

Dennis Eckersley's lights out 1990 season, complete with 0.61 ERA and 73/4 K/BB ratio, is salaried much lower than a bunch of mediocre starting pitching seasons. Clearly that was his best career season and one that shouldn't be allowed in our game.

this is the big problem..say for some reason that ruth's 3rd-best season was one where he was a SP..obviously you'd want him as an OF (I'm sure this isn't the case, just saying)..that presents a problem.

wish we had thought of this beforehand.

maybe we can work something out where players who served dual-roles in their career, and the sim doesn't allow for it, we could have it be their 3rd-best year at that position the draftor requests? say for eck, his 3rd-best year as a RP, and for Babe, his 3rd-best year as an OF?

make sense?

I think this makes sense only with the pitching roles. So SP/RP, OF/SP, etc.Otherwise, people already made, or didn't make, draft choices based on the positional (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/OF) eligbility of players, and it wouldn't be fair to change it at this point.

well yeah, I agree..

Larry, I don't know what you're reading in this, but as Spartans pointed out, the rule interpretation was made specifically to prevent people from stealing Eck's best season, or Quantrill's best season, if it was salaried lower than starting seasons. The solution presented is to use 3rd-best RP seasons for relievers--which you have circumvented, and therefore must fix. If anyone else, like Oso, was fond to have intentionally or unintentionally cheated, they would fix their team as well.

 

[larry_boy_44]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong?

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

Capella, that's the thing, though... I already quoted it... (look up)You didn't say that we had to use it... you just said we could...

maybe we can work something out where players who served dual-roles in their career, and the sim doesn't allow for it, we could have it be their 3rd-best year at that position the draftor requests? say for eck, his 3rd-best year as a RP, and for Babe, his 3rd-best year as an OF?

sounds pretty straighforward to me.

yes, but where does it say that they have to be used like that?

 

[larry_boy_44]

Another problem comes in to play with players who were both SP and RP.

Dennis Eckersley's lights out 1990 season, complete with 0.61 ERA and 73/4 K/BB ratio, is salaried much lower than a bunch of mediocre starting pitching seasons. Clearly that was his best career season and one that shouldn't be allowed in our game.

this is the big problem..say for some reason that ruth's 3rd-best season was one where he was a SP..obviously you'd want him as an OF (I'm sure this isn't the case, just saying)..that presents a problem.

wish we had thought of this beforehand.

maybe we can work something out where players who served dual-roles in their career, and the sim doesn't allow for it, we could have it be their 3rd-best year at that position the draftor requests? say for eck, his 3rd-best year as a RP, and for Babe, his 3rd-best year as an OF?

make sense?

I think this makes sense only with the pitching roles. So SP/RP, OF/SP, etc.Otherwise, people already made, or didn't make, draft choices based on the positional (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/OF) eligbility of players, and it wouldn't be fair to change it at this point.

well yeah, I agree..

Larry, I don't know what you're reading in this, but as Spartans pointed out, the rule interpretation was made specifically to prevent people from stealing Eck's best season, or Quantrill's best season, if it was salaried lower than starting seasons. The solution presented is to use 3rd-best RP seasons for relievers--which you have circumvented, and therefore must fix. If anyone else, like Oso, was fond to have intentionally or unintentionally cheated, they would fix their team as well.

no, it wasn't made to make it so they can't "steal" thier best season...it's 'cuz Eck spent a large number of seasons as a mediocre starter before he became a pitcher and they were worried Ruth's #3 year was as a P not a OF...

it had NOTHING TO DO with what is being said now...

 

[lastresort66]

ENOUGH WITH THE EXCESSIVE USE OF THE NEW QUOTING SYSTEM!!!

 

[Paul Quantrill]

Another problem comes in to play with players who were both SP and RP.

Dennis Eckersley's lights out 1990 season, complete with 0.61 ERA and 73/4 K/BB ratio, is salaried much lower than a bunch of mediocre starting pitching seasons. Clearly that was his best career season and one that shouldn't be allowed in our game.

this is the big problem..say for some reason that ruth's 3rd-best season was one where he was a SP..obviously you'd want him as an OF (I'm sure this isn't the case, just saying)..that presents a problem.

wish we had thought of this beforehand.

maybe we can work something out where players who served dual-roles in their career, and the sim doesn't allow for it, we could have it be their 3rd-best year at that position the draftor requests? say for eck, his 3rd-best year as a RP, and for Babe, his 3rd-best year as an OF?

make sense?

I think this makes sense only with the pitching roles. So SP/RP, OF/SP, etc.Otherwise, people already made, or didn't make, draft choices based on the positional (C/1B/2B/SS/3B/OF) eligbility of players, and it wouldn't be fair to change it at this point.

well yeah, I agree..

Larry, I don't know what you're reading in this, but as Spartans pointed out, the rule interpretation was made specifically to prevent people from stealing Eck's best season, or Quantrill's best season, if it was salaried lower than starting seasons. The solution presented is to use 3rd-best RP seasons for relievers--which you have circumvented, and therefore must fix. If anyone else, like Oso, was fond to have intentionally or unintentionally cheated, they would fix their team as well.

Looks staightforward to me...Larry Boy = Cheater

I mean I did one fo these with the guys in the Yanks pen, and I didn't even draft me...

 

[Politician Spock]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.

maybe..just maybe you're wrong? 

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

Capella, that's the thing, though... I already quoted it... (look up)You didn't say that we had to use it... you just said we could...

You already got your way. Why continue?

because he's wrong...and the whole league didn't agree that I did wrong...

like 4 people have said they think that I did...

no one else has said anything...

Don't you see that there's only two results to continuing this argument? Either Capella is wrong and you're an ####### for exploiting a loophole in the rules, or Capella is right and you're an ####### for continuing to argue it.

 

[Capella]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

 

[larry_boy_44]

larry, everybody but you understood the rules a certain way.maybe..just maybe you're wrong?

ok, Capella, who are your three "relief" pitchers?

What are thier 3 qualifying relief pitcher positions and which year are you using for them?

You are STILL (after hours and hours and hours) not catching the drift here, are you?

I understand the drift...

the drift is you guys can't stand the fact that your losing to me, so you need to cheat to beat me...

I am 100% within the rules...

if you can show me where you said that you MUST use the third best relief season for relief pitchers, I'll change him...

and until then I won't... and if you change him, Iw ould really appreciate my $15 back...

thanks...

no larry, you're not within the rules..and nobody is jealous of your team (that I just beat) or any of that crap.

oso wasn't within the rules last week and he graciously complied, no argument. he even went out of his way. were we jealous of his team as well?

you on the other hand are not caving in, despite everyone telling you to the contrary.

I won't go in and change your team..that's up to you. But if I run any of these drafts again in the future, you won't be welcome to participate.

except for there wasn't whining and complaining for 50 pages about "how can Oso's team win?" and then a changing of the rules after the draft and 1/5 of the way through the season to try and screw me over...

like I said, if you can find where you said that one MUST use third reliever season, I'll change it...

but you never siad that, you said that we could...

must <> can

ok larry, I'm not going to argue with you any longer..if you choose to spit in the face of the league, go ahead. everybody here has said you're wrong, and nobody is 'jealous' of your team (an insane comment if I ever heard one).

I'm not going to surf through 370 pages looking for a few quotes..you can accept what EVERYBODY is claiming as fact, or not. your choice.

you can change it, or not..if you don't, there will be no punishment, but you won't be participating the next time we do this, if I have any say in it.

Capella, that's the thing, though... I already quoted it... (look up)

You didn't say that we had to use it... you just said we could...

You already got your way. Why continue?

because he's wrong...

and the whole league didn't agree that I did wrong...

like 4 people have said they think that I did...

no one else has said anything...

Don't you see that there's only two results to continuing this argument? Either Capella is wrong and you're an ####### for exploiting a loophole in the rules, or Capella is right and you're an ####### for continuing to argue it.

how is it a loophole?

an exception was made for players who played a large number of seasons at a different position, but no one ever said you had to do it...

I just used Quantrill's third best season... I didn't even look at what seasons were higher than it and if they were SP or RP seasons until afterwards...

it wasn't a loophole, it was nothing except we used the third best season unless it was a RP who wouldn't get an RP season unless you used a much further down season...

 

[larry_boy_44]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

 

[lastresort66]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

You've said your peace. Now if you could just enable trading, I think it'd make everyone happy. BTW, we've set yet another new benchmark: 13,000 posts in a single thread.

 

[Paul Quantrill]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

And only you have said that you didn't...4-1 so far...

looks like a mandate...

 

[lastresort66]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

CHEATER.That makes 5, I think.

 

[Capella]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

you're right, I haven't. I'm not going through 700 pages to do so. you're not worth my time. if everybody is saying one thing, and one signle person continue to stand in the face of it, they're usually assumed to be wrong.

but whatever, we'll be better off without you in year two.

 

[Capella]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

CHEATER.That makes 5, I think.

Spock as well.That's 6.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

you're right, I haven't. I'm not going through 700 pages to do so. you're not worth my time. if everybody is saying one thing, and one signle person continue to stand in the face of it, they're usually assumed to be wrong.

but whatever, we'll be better off without you in year two.

wait... who's everyone??I see 6 people who have been in this thread and posted since someone said this...

so how is "everyone" saying anything?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

let's cool it in here...got a few posts "reported" from this thread tonight.don't want to see this thread get nuked.please play nice.

 

[Politician Spock]

how is it a loophole?

an exception was made for players who played a large number of seasons at a different position, but no one ever said you had to do it...

I just used Quantrill's third best season... I didn't even look at what seasons were higher than it and if they were SP or RP seasons until afterwards...

it wasn't a loophole, it was nothing except we used the third best season unless it was a RP who wouldn't get an RP season unless you used a much further down season...

The rule was more than just going low enough on the players list to find a relief pitcher season. If you did that with Eck, you eventually would have come to his best season as a reliever. This is what Spartan's said:

Another problem comes in to play with players who were both SP and RP.

Dennis Eckersley's lights out 1990 season, complete with 0.61 ERA and 73/4 K/BB ratio, is salaried much lower than a bunch of mediocre starting pitching seasons. Clearly that was his best career season and one that shouldn't be allowed in our game.

Eck was required to use his 3rd year as a reliever because his best career season shouldn't be allowed in our league. You found a way to get Quantrill's second best season as a reliever. Should we allow Eck to use his 2nd best year as a reliever? Obviously not, but you found a loophole to use Quantrill's 2nd best year as a reliever. Either it's a legal loophole in the rules, or you are breaking the rules.

 

[Capella]

let's cool it in here...got a few posts "reported" from this thread tonight.

don't want to see this thread get nuked.

please play nice.

let me guess who's reporting posts.so now he's a cheater and a whiner?

 

[Koya]

How sad is it that if I had Paul Quantrill instead of Lefty Grove, it is easily conceivable that I would have 3-4 more wins.

 

[Capella]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

you're right, I haven't. I'm not going through 700 pages to do so. you're not worth my time. if everybody is saying one thing, and one signle person continue to stand in the face of it, they're usually assumed to be wrong.

but whatever, we'll be better off without you in year two.

wait... who's everyone??I see 6 people who have been in this thread and posted since someone said this...

so how is "everyone" saying anything?

#### and quit splitting hairs, tool.

Six out of six doesn't count as everyone.

 

[lastresort66]

let's cool it in here...got a few posts "reported" from this thread tonight.

don't want to see this thread get nuked.

please play nice.

let me guess who's reporting posts.so now he's a cheater and a whiner?

If larry_boy is the death of this thread, he will never be forgiven.

 

[Koya]

I do hope it was saracasm about reporting this thread. If ANYone who is a part of this draft were to report anything in here, they would be a traitor worthy of a traitor's fate.

 

[larry_boy_44]

how is it a loophole?

an exception was made for players who played a large number of seasons at a different position, but no one ever said you had to do it...

I just used Quantrill's third best season... I didn't even look at what seasons were higher than it and if they were SP or RP seasons until afterwards...

it wasn't a loophole, it was nothing except we used the third best season unless it was a RP who wouldn't get an RP season unless you used a much further down season...

The rule was more than just going low enough on the players list to find a relief pitcher season. If you did that with Eck, you eventually would have come to his best season as a reliever. This is what Spartan's said:

Another problem comes in to play with players who were both SP and RP.

Dennis Eckersley's lights out 1990 season, complete with 0.61 ERA and 73/4 K/BB ratio, is salaried much lower than a bunch of mediocre starting pitching seasons. Clearly that was his best career season and one that shouldn't be allowed in our game.

Eck was required to use his 3rd year as a reliever because his best career season shouldn't be allowed in our league. You found a way to get Quantrill's second best season as a reliever. Should we allow Eck to use his 2nd best year as a reliever? Obviously not, but you found a loophole to use Quantrill's 2nd best year as a reliever. Either it's a legal loophole in the rules, or you are breaking the rules.

I didn't use Quantrill's second best season as a reliever, I used his third best season, period... which is exactly what we were could do...

 

[Paul Quantrill]

How sad is it that if I had Paul Quantrill instead of Lefty Grove, it is easily conceivable that I would have 3-4 more wins.

That sucks dude...But not as much as I do...

 

[beaglemac]

Is this the post padders paradise?

 

[larry_boy_44]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

you're right, I haven't. I'm not going through 700 pages to do so. you're not worth my time. if everybody is saying one thing, and one signle person continue to stand in the face of it, they're usually assumed to be wrong.

but whatever, we'll be better off without you in year two.

wait... who's everyone??I see 6 people who have been in this thread and posted since someone said this...

so how is "everyone" saying anything?

#### and quit splitting hairs, tool.

Six out of six doesn't count as everyone.

not when there are 16 (19) in the league, no, it doesn't...

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

I do hope it was saracasm about reporting this thread. If ANYone who is a part of this draft were to report anything in here, they would be a traitor worthy of a traitor's fate.

not sarcasm...just got the 3rd one tonightlet's chilllllllll

 

[larry_boy_44]

let's cool it in here...got a few posts "reported" from this thread tonight.

don't want to see this thread get nuked.

please play nice.

let me guess who's reporting posts.so now he's a cheater and a whiner?

If larry_boy is the death of this thread, he will never be forgiven.

why are you assuming I'm doing it?

 

[Capella]

I do hope it was saracasm about reporting this thread. If ANYone who is a part of this draft were to report anything in here, they would be a traitor worthy of a traitor's fate.

sadly, this is the case.It happened guys.

 

[lastresort66]

I can't argue with this idiot anymore. It's like speaking to a brick wall, only dumber.

and you still havne't shown where you said it...right now, you, Nipsey, Harrier, & UCONN have said I cheated...

I might have missed a few people, but that is far from a concensus...

you're right, I haven't. I'm not going through 700 pages to do so. you're not worth my time. if everybody is saying one thing, and one signle person continue to stand in the face of it, they're usually assumed to be wrong.

but whatever, we'll be better off without you in year two.

wait... who's everyone??I see 6 people who have been in this thread and posted since someone said this...

so how is "everyone" saying anything?

#### and quit splitting hairs, tool.

Six out of six doesn't count as everyone.

not when there are 16 (19) in the league, no, it doesn't...

Must you take things literally, tool?

 

[Paul Quantrill]

Can someone explain how this was my BEST season?1. Quantrill, Paul 1995 Philadelphia Phillies R 202 4.67 11-12 0 1.43 .283 2.21 5.17 1.00 $5,038,848I was so drunk through most of 1995 it's amazing I even knew which way the catcher was...I think my best season was 1992...That's when I bagged those sisters in Minneapolis...Guess they don't call them th Twin Cities for nothing...

 

[Capella]

let's cool it in here...got a few posts "reported" from this thread tonight.

don't want to see this thread get nuked.

please play nice.

let me guess who's reporting posts.so now he's a cheater and a whiner?

If larry_boy is the death of this thread, he will never be forgiven.

why are you assuming I'm doing it?

I know things larry. Remember how I coldly called Harrier out for being 'Winner'.

Well, guess what..

It happened Larry.

 

[lastresort66]

let's cool it in here...got a few posts "reported" from this thread tonight.

don't want to see this thread get nuked.

please play nice.

let me guess who's reporting posts.so now he's a cheater and a whiner?

If larry_boy is the death of this thread, he will never be forgiven.

why are you assuming I'm doing it?

Read cappys post, which has already been quoted in this series. Thank you.BTW, I'm not assuming anything. I'm just stating my displeasure over something that hasn't happened yet.

How's that for splitting hairs?

 

[Paul Quantrill]

I do hope it was saracasm about reporting this thread. If ANYone who is a part of this draft were to report anything in here, they would be a traitor worthy of a traitor's fate.

not sarcasm...just got the 3rd one tonightlet's chilllllllll

If I said anything that offended anyone, I am sorry...But cheating of any type just drives me NUTS!

That's why I pissed in Giambi's shampoo bottle today when he wasn't looking...

 

[Capella]

11 Members: Capella, Aaron Rudnicki, larry_boy_44, Koya, Paul Quantrill, cracKer, lastresort66, thorn2000, Chase Stuart, Politician Spock, mrharrier

THANKS LARRY!

 

[larry_boy_44]

let's cool it in here...got a few posts "reported" from this thread tonight.

don't want to see this thread get nuked.

please play nice.

let me guess who's reporting posts.so now he's a cheater and a whiner?

If larry_boy is the death of this thread, he will never be forgiven.

why are you assuming I'm doing it?

I know things larry. Remember how I coldly called Harrier out for being 'Winner'.

Well, guess what..

It happened Larry.

never said I didn't...just pointing out that others assuming I did doesn't mean I did...