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This thread reminds me of Crimson Tide.
Mr Spock, we have rules that are not open to interpretation, personal intuition, gut feelings, hairs on the back of your neck, little devils or angels sitting on your shoulder. We're all very well aware of what our orders are and what those orders mean. They come down from our Commander in Chief. They contain no ambiguity.
 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
 
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THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...

 
This thread is the place to be...
I don't want to take your schtik tonight Nipsey! Seriously! There is a $165 charge to my credit card from a Ruth Chris Steakhouse. On investigating the charge, it was found to be signed by a John Martinez. And don't tell me it's just circumstantial evidence as below the signature it was written "Thanks for the danish!" :hot: :rant:

 
This thread is the place to be...
I don't want to take your schtik tonight Nipsey! Seriously! There is a $165 charge to my credit card from a Ruth Chris Steakhouse. On investigating the charge, it was found to be signed by a John Martinez. And don't tell me it's just circumstantial evidence as below the signature it was written "Thanks for the danish!" :hot: :rant:
That's odd...we ate at The Palm, not Ruth Chris. Check your statement again. Also, it was $365, not $165.
 
Koya losing a 12-11 extra inning game on a walk = "ouch"BTW, I just read the best thing I've laid eyes on all day:

You have chosen to ignore larry_boy_44. View this post · Un-ignore larry_boy_44
Ahhhhh.......
 
Oh, btw:

2/24/2005 am Mr Ps Big Owning Machine 2/24/2005 pm Mr Ps Big Owning Machine 2/24/2005 pm2 Mr Ps Big Owning Machine
Two teams that are tied for the 3rd best record in the league at 26-13.It's *bleep*ing on.
 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
That's why we're really p'ed off at you, larry. You don't turn your back on people who have gained your trust just because your morals are minimally affected. You should know who you're dealing with by now. I support Nipsey here and I sincerely and explicitly wish you were allowed to just get the hell out of our league, but apparently John Martinez and Co. have mercy on heathens like you. Just keep in mind that no matter what you do, you will not be recognized as a Champion here if you do win, and you will be persona non grata after the 1st season is over. Accept your forfeits, shut up, and this will go smoothly. Continue to cry and complain and report us for being adults, and we will make sure you go down with us.God bless,

Lastresort

 
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THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
That's why we're really p'ed off at you, larry. You don't turn your back on people who have gained your trust just because your morals are minimally affected. You should know who you're dealing with by now. I support Nipsey here and I sincerely and explicitly wish you were allowed to just get the hell out of our league, but apparently John Martinez and Co. have mercy on heathens like you. Just keep in mind that no matter what you do, you will not be recognized as a Champion here if you do win, and you will be persona non grata after the 1st season is over. Accept your forfeits, shut up, and this will go smoothly. Continue to cry and complain and report us for being adults, and we will make sure you go down with us.God bless,

Lastresort
man, I can't believe how big of babies some of you are...the rules of this board are very, very simple and plain and you all know them...

quite frankly, the disregard you guys have had in teh last 10 or so pages has offended me more than the stupid stuff that has been posted in here...

You guys are just showing that you really have no respect for the poeple who own and run these boards, and you really do need to grow up and realize that a lot of the stuff that has been posted had no business being on this board...

Yes, I shouldn't have reported a few of the things I reported, but since 25 people reported things, some with reports like "I was called a rascist", which means it was by someone in this thread (and that definately wasn't me), it shows that I was absolutely not the only one in this draft reporting posts...

go read what Colin said that afternoon if you don't believe me that I am not the only person in this draft to report posts...

So, get off your high horse and have some respect for Joe & co.... get out of the second grade...

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631. We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site). We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley). It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever. He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to"). The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately. Well, he

balked. For about a day. And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league. Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this. My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)? If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill. He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class. When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
:bs:
 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
then why don't we have Joe post the list of all posters on this board who reported posts in this thread?'cuz I know at least one other person in this thread had to have reported this thread based on what Colin said that day...

otherwise, you shoudln't be jumping on me, because, quite frankly, 25 people that aren't involved in this draft (and aren't mods) haven't come in this thread since Monday afternoon...

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631. We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site). We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley). It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever. He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to"). The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately. Well, he

balked. For about a day. And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league. Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this. My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)? If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill. He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class. When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
then why don't we have Joe post the list of all posters on this board who reported posts in this thread?'cuz I know at least one other person in this thread had to have reported this thread based on what Colin said that day...

otherwise, you shoudln't be jumping on me, because, quite frankly, 25 people that aren't involved in this draft (and aren't mods) haven't come in this thread since Monday afternoon...
It very well may have been that many people jokingly or seriously reported one or two things in a 400-page thread. You, however, went nuts with reporting and tried to get the whole draft deleted.I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
then why don't we have Joe post the list of all posters on this board who reported posts in this thread?'cuz I know at least one other person in this thread had to have reported this thread based on what Colin said that day...

otherwise, you shoudln't be jumping on me, because, quite frankly, 25 people that aren't involved in this draft (and aren't mods) haven't come in this thread since Monday afternoon...
It very well may have been that many people jokingly or seriously reported one or two things in a 400-page thread. You, however, went nuts with reporting and tried to get the whole draft deleted.I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
how many posts did I report?5 over the whole time? 2 in that 2-day period?

seriously, it doesn't matter, if reporting posts is what is getting me blacklisted, than more than just me needs to be blacklisted...

 
I am FORMALLY calling my first bull####.One run in the 9th to let them tie. Then after scoring 3 in extra innings, FOUR ####### RUNS to lose.Something is wrong with these bullpens. How my starters can all be lights out, and my bullpen give up a one run defeat everytime is beyond me. Lefty Grove sucks in the pen, Lefty Gomez can start, sucks in the pen, Todd Worrell.. well I expected him to suck... Mike Cuellar - gives up a key run.I am filing a protest. Formally.Who is our commish now? Are Nipsey and Cap both dead from the melee?

 
larry, I personally moved the thread after getting about 4 or 5 reported post messages from you within a few hours. Some were from this thread and some were for spinoffs of this thread. Regardless, things were clearly escalating to a point where I was afraid other mods who had no familiarity with this thread would just delete it after seeing all your reports without understanding the true cause of the problem.Rather than just admitting you may have misunderstood the rule (which almost certainly would have ended all the drama immediately), you continued to argue it and claim you were justified in bending the rules.Anyway, I don't think you're wholly to blame here as some people did go off on you a bit excessively after the fact (and I asked them to chill out via PM)...but, you certainly could have handled things a bit differently and helped calm the situation down rather than making it worse.Like I said before, I've personally witnessed you insulting other posters within this thread. They didn't make a big deal out of it, and everybody seemed to be getting along and able to take a joke for the most part. It seems a bit hypocritical for you to report others and try to get them in trouble for things that you have done yourself.Anyway, I've remained pretty quiet up until now, but felt like setting a few things straight. I think it's good that you've apologized and understand where the others in the league are coming from.

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
then why don't we have Joe post the list of all posters on this board who reported posts in this thread?'cuz I know at least one other person in this thread had to have reported this thread based on what Colin said that day...

otherwise, you shoudln't be jumping on me, because, quite frankly, 25 people that aren't involved in this draft (and aren't mods) haven't come in this thread since Monday afternoon...
STOP!Larry, you can't tell other people to grow up, then talk about bringing Joe B in here to disclose his list of people who reported stuff. That's a foul (LB's second in two days for those counting at home (intellect/'cuz)) If others reported stuff, I doubt it was anyone else involved in the draft. And if it was, shame on them. And it was not 25 different people that reported stuff. Joe was making a point. Stop taking EVERYTHING literally. It really got you in trouble here. (see: "we could")

Cleary you can not tell the difference between a joke and something you feel you need to report. What can I say? When talking with my friends, I speak candidly. Thought you were a friend.

Most have just chosen to ignore you at this point. I can't do that as I need to read your posts as they come hot off your stubby fingers and into my monitor. They're like crack for me. Half of the residents of Los Angeles know who Larry Boy is. They need their fix too. You're truly loved out here.

In terms of this draft, I'd say the best thing for you would be:

Make the changes.

Stay out of this thread. Please. You can still follow along at WIS.com.

I'll see you down the road in a religious thread.

NIpsey

 
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larry, I personally moved the thread after getting about 4 or 5 reported post messages from you within a few hours. Some were from this thread and some were for spinoffs of this thread. Regardless, things were clearly escalating to a point where I was afraid other mods who had no familiarity with this thread would just delete it after seeing all your reports without understanding the true cause of the problem.

Rather than just admitting you may have misunderstood the rule (which almost certainly would have ended all the drama immediately), you continued to argue it and claim you were justified in bending the rules.

Anyway, I don't think you're wholly to blame here as some people did go off on you a bit excessively after the fact (and I asked them to chill out via PM)...but, you certainly could have handled things a bit differently and helped calm the situation down rather than making it worse.

Like I said before, I've personally witnessed you insulting other posters within this thread. They didn't make a big deal out of it, and everybody seemed to be getting along and able to take a joke for the most part. It seems a bit hypocritical for you to report others and try to get them in trouble for things that you have done yourself.

Anyway, I've remained pretty quiet up until now, but felt like setting a few things straight. I think it's good that you've apologized and understand where the others in the league are coming from.
ok, so, to answer the question, did anyone else in this thread at all report a post?I mean, that is what the issue is with me... and spinoffs, in general deserved to be reported (and they would have been seen anyways, but they are the typical "rip-on-Larry" spinoffs that happen every once in a while...)

but, if the issue is that I reported posts (a number of which deserved it, even if most didn't...) and only a few were in this thread, did anyone else in this thread report posts?

No names are needed, just whether they did or not...

I know by what Colin said that either he was making stuff up (possible) or other people in the draft itself reported posts in here, because what he said was people reporting posts referring to themselves being talked about in posts in this thread...

So, was I the only one?

and if others did report, i think that we need to stop with the "HOW DARE YOU REPORT POSTS!!!" thought...

 
larry, I personally moved the thread after getting about 4 or 5 reported post messages from you within a few hours. Some were from this thread and some were for spinoffs of this thread. Regardless, things were clearly escalating to a point where I was afraid other mods who had no familiarity with this thread would just delete it after seeing all your reports without understanding the true cause of the problem.

Rather than just admitting you may have misunderstood the rule (which almost certainly would have ended all the drama immediately), you continued to argue it and claim you were justified in bending the rules.

Anyway, I don't think you're wholly to blame here as some people did go off on you a bit excessively after the fact (and I asked them to chill out via PM)...but, you certainly could have handled things a bit differently and helped calm the situation down rather than making it worse.

Like I said before, I've personally witnessed you insulting other posters within this thread. They didn't make a big deal out of it, and everybody seemed to be getting along and able to take a joke for the most part. It seems a bit hypocritical for you to report others and try to get them in trouble for things that you have done yourself.

Anyway, I've remained pretty quiet up until now, but felt like setting a few things straight. I think it's good that you've apologized and understand where the others in the league are coming from.
:goodposting: larry, please..I don't want this thread axed. Do us all a favor and back away slowly. Please PM me the changes I need to submit to WIS and I'll get that emailed tonight.

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
then why don't we have Joe post the list of all posters on this board who reported posts in this thread?'cuz I know at least one other person in this thread had to have reported this thread based on what Colin said that day...

otherwise, you shoudln't be jumping on me, because, quite frankly, 25 people that aren't involved in this draft (and aren't mods) haven't come in this thread since Monday afternoon...
STOP!Larry, you can't tell other people to grow up, then talk about bringing Joe B in here to disclose his list of people who reported stuff. That's a foul (LB's second in two days for those counting at home (intellect/'cuz)) If others reported stuff, I doubt it was anyone else involved in the draft. And if it was, shame on them. And it was not 25 different people that reported stuff. Joe was making a point. Stop taking EVERYTHING literally. It really got you in trouble here. (see: "we could")

Cleary you can not tell the difference between a joke and something you feel you need to report. What can I say? When talking with my friends, I speak candidly. Thought you were a friend.

Most have just chosen to ignore you at this point. I can't do that as I need to read your posts as they come hot off your stubby fingers and into my monitor. They're like crack for me. Half of the residents of Los Angeles know who Larry Boy is. They need their fix too. You're truly loved out here.

In terms of this draft, I'd say the best thing for you would be:

Make the changes.

Stay out of this thread. Please. You can still follow along at WIS.com.

I'll see you down the road in a religious thread.

NIpsey
Nipsey, honest question...was there really ever a time that you wanted me to post here?

Did you want me to post here 100 pages ago? 50? 25? right before this all started?

I would venture to guess "no", although I could be wrong...

and if the answer to any of those is no... then you really shouldn't be saying that you want me to stop posting because of this, because this would then be your excuse and has nothing to do with what you are saying at all...

 
larry's passive-aggressive behavior is boring me to tears. i've never considered ignoring someone before but he's making it impossible not to.#### already, larry. you blew it. no one is agreeing with you. move on.

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
then why don't we have Joe post the list of all posters on this board who reported posts in this thread?'cuz I know at least one other person in this thread had to have reported this thread based on what Colin said that day...

otherwise, you shoudln't be jumping on me, because, quite frankly, 25 people that aren't involved in this draft (and aren't mods) haven't come in this thread since Monday afternoon...
STOP!Larry, you can't tell other people to grow up, then talk about bringing Joe B in here to disclose his list of people who reported stuff. That's a foul (LB's second in two days for those counting at home (intellect/'cuz)) If others reported stuff, I doubt it was anyone else involved in the draft. And if it was, shame on them. And it was not 25 different people that reported stuff. Joe was making a point. Stop taking EVERYTHING literally. It really got you in trouble here. (see: "we could")

Cleary you can not tell the difference between a joke and something you feel you need to report. What can I say? When talking with my friends, I speak candidly. Thought you were a friend.

Most have just chosen to ignore you at this point. I can't do that as I need to read your posts as they come hot off your stubby fingers and into my monitor. They're like crack for me. Half of the residents of Los Angeles know who Larry Boy is. They need their fix too. You're truly loved out here.

In terms of this draft, I'd say the best thing for you would be:

Make the changes.

Stay out of this thread. Please. You can still follow along at WIS.com.

I'll see you down the road in a religious thread.

NIpsey
Nipsey, honest question...was there really ever a time that you wanted me to post here?

Did you want me to post here 100 pages ago? 50? 25? right before this all started?

I would venture to guess "no", although I could be wrong...

and if the answer to any of those is no... then you really shouldn't be saying that you want me to stop posting because of this, because this would then be your excuse and has nothing to do with what you are saying at all...
:goodposting: YES!!!! See, it's posts like this that make it impossible for me to put you on my ignore list.To answer your question, I HAVE NO ####### IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

 
THE RESPONSE HAS ARRIVED

Hi Nipsey, thanks for the note. We have a policy against removing an owner

once league play has begun for numerous reasons - one of which is that it

simply encourages people to break rules once they feel as though there team

is out of contention.

In this case, if 23/24 owners interpreted the rule one way, then I think

it's pretty clear how the rule was intended. I would have the owner in

violation contact us and we'll make the change for him with no transaction

charges. If he chooses not to comply, we can make the change for him. In

addition, you can choose to fine the owner and or forfeit games involving

the illegal player.

Let us know what you'd like to do!

----- Original Message -----

From:

To: support@whatifsports.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:08 PM

Subject: (no subject)

Dear What if Sports -

My name is Nipsey and I own a team called the "nips" in baseball sim league

MLB40631.  We have a bit of a problem and we'd like to know if you can help

us come to a resolution that all parties involved can feel comfortable with.

The way our league is structured, each team is using a player's third

highest salaried season (according to the salaries on your site).  We ran

into a little gray area when it came to relievers that had at one time been

starters (i.e. Dennis Eckersley).  It was decided that if you were going to

draft the pitcher as a reliever, you'd use the third highest salaried season

that player had as a reliever.

Anywho, we have a participant in our league (larryboy4444) who drafted a

reliever (I won't mention the pitcher by name, but think "sucks") and he

ended up using his third best overall season, not his third best season as a

reliever.  He claims that when discussing the rule, the term "we could use"

meant it was his choice whether or not he wanted to abide by this rule (as

in "I can if I want to").  The rest of the league told him that wasn't the

case and he needed to change to the correct season immediately.  Well, he

balked.  For about a day.  And during that time, all hell broke loose in our

chat thread we have on another site.

It was decided after a league-wide petition had circulated that he'd be

asked to leave the league.  Even Hanna Manlikova and the widow of Big Pun

(hi Claire! :0))are with us on this.  My question is, can you refund his

entry fee and pass the control of his team to another owner in the league

(aaronr30)?  If we need to pay the refunded amount, one of our other owners

(p_spock) has gladly agreed to foot the bill.  He said to just hammer his

credit card again...no problem (and take $15 for yourself, "get something

nice").

Please let us know if this can happen as we're eager to continue our league

and I'm personally looking forward to continuing my quest to capture my

first WIS league crown.

Thanks for taking this matter under consideration, and if I may say, you

people are all class.  When I want to feel proud, I think of my involvement

with you people and your  lovely, lovely site.

In admiration -

Nipsey

Acting Commissioner for sim league MLB40631

PS  The danish was a nice touch.
Pretty lame response. :thumbdown:
ok, so leave me in, I tried to fix the problem players 3 days ago...the only problem is that the commish has to e-mail them to get the players fixed...
All you had to do was acknowledge the problem when it was pointed out. You were clearly in error. You didn't. You argued it for over a day and it still isn't fixed. And worst of all, you sold us all out by reporting a number of posts in the thread. I have no sympathy for you. Goodbye.
Nipsey, I didn't argue for over a day, I argued for about half a day...I have acknowledged I should have changed it and then said something about how I didn't agree with it and saw what everyone thinks... so i was wrong in doing that... I've admitted that already, and am sorry that it happened that way...

of course, even if I would have made the tag right then, the players still wouldn't be switched anyways, so its not like any harm was done... (Capella needs to e-mail them and tell them to change it...)

I see it as no harm, no foul... a lot of different people did things that were wrong, not just me, and it isn't fair that all the blame gets piled on me... ya know?
It was reporting the posts Larry that did you in. You lost everyone when you did that. Sorry.
then why don't we have Joe post the list of all posters on this board who reported posts in this thread?'cuz I know at least one other person in this thread had to have reported this thread based on what Colin said that day...

otherwise, you shoudln't be jumping on me, because, quite frankly, 25 people that aren't involved in this draft (and aren't mods) haven't come in this thread since Monday afternoon...
STOP!Larry, you can't tell other people to grow up, then talk about bringing Joe B in here to disclose his list of people who reported stuff. That's a foul (LB's second in two days for those counting at home (intellect/'cuz)) If others reported stuff, I doubt it was anyone else involved in the draft. And if it was, shame on them. And it was not 25 different people that reported stuff. Joe was making a point. Stop taking EVERYTHING literally. It really got you in trouble here. (see: "we could")

Cleary you can not tell the difference between a joke and something you feel you need to report. What can I say? When talking with my friends, I speak candidly. Thought you were a friend.

Most have just chosen to ignore you at this point. I can't do that as I need to read your posts as they come hot off your stubby fingers and into my monitor. They're like crack for me. Half of the residents of Los Angeles know who Larry Boy is. They need their fix too. You're truly loved out here.

In terms of this draft, I'd say the best thing for you would be:

Make the changes.

Stay out of this thread. Please. You can still follow along at WIS.com.

I'll see you down the road in a religious thread.

NIpsey
Nipsey, honest question...was there really ever a time that you wanted me to post here?

Did you want me to post here 100 pages ago? 50? 25? right before this all started?

I would venture to guess "no", although I could be wrong...

and if the answer to any of those is no... then you really shouldn't be saying that you want me to stop posting because of this, because this would then be your excuse and has nothing to do with what you are saying at all...
:goodposting: YES!!!! See, it's posts like this that make it impossible for me to put you on my ignore list.To answer your question, I HAVE NO ####### IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
oh Jesus... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
 
ok, so, to answer the question, did anyone else in this thread at all report a post?
I honestly don't recall seeing anyone else report a post from this thread in the past couple days. They may have and I just didn't see it. Or, they could have sent Joe a PM. I don't know.
 
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ok, so, to answer the question, did anyone else in this thread at all report a post?
I honestly don't recall seeing anyone else report a post from this thread. They may have and I just didn't see it. Or, they could have sent Joe a PM. I don't know.
interesting.. larry's bs story is wearing thin..if someone else did, it had to be joke.. or some beisbol hater trying to get this puppy sacked. no chance someone would have reported it with the same motivation as larry.

 
ok, so, to answer the question, did anyone else in this thread at all report a post?
I honestly don't recall seeing anyone else report a post from this thread. They may have and I just didn't see it. Or, they could have sent Joe a PM. I don't know.
interesting.. larry's bs story is wearing thin..if someone else did, it had to be joke.. or some beisbol hater trying to get this puppy sacked. no chance someone would have reported it with the same motivation as larry.
if no one did, though, why did Colin quote reports (that werne't from me) and Joe say a large number of people reported the thread?Did they just lie to us?

 
Larry, it boils down to this: We're all men here. Men don't like to be ratted on. I know you like your rules and structure, but COME ON! Nobody is threatening anyone's life here. The mods don't like to be bothered by tattle-tales either. It's time that they'd rather spend enjoying my humor the board. You're not making any friends by reporting posts you deem objectionable. And if reading some jokes on a message board really, really bothers you deep down, then you gotta get a life man.

I know this post will fly overhead, but I had to try. :thumbup:

 
Larry, what place is your team in? I'm curious how you did. And does it have anything to do with how you're being treated?
first place by like 6 games (9 points in the "point system" someone devised for this thread)...and I would say in some cases, yeah it does, and it others, it doesn't...

 
ok, so, to answer the question, did anyone else in this thread at all report a post?
I honestly don't recall seeing anyone else report a post from this thread. They may have and I just didn't see it. Or, they could have sent Joe a PM. I don't know.
interesting.. larry's bs story is wearing thin..if someone else did, it had to be joke.. or some beisbol hater trying to get this puppy sacked. no chance someone would have reported it with the same motivation as larry.
if no one did, though, why did Colin quote reports (that werne't from me) and Joe say a large number of people reported the thread?
ask yourself this: why would they report it? you're the thin-skinned baby in this thread.
 
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Larry, it boils down to this: We're all men here. Men don't like to be ratted on. I know you like your rules and structure, but COME ON! Nobody is threatening anyone's life here. The mods don't like to be bothered by tattle-tales either. It's time that they'd rather spend enjoying my humor the board. You're not making any friends by reporting posts you deem objectionable. And if reading some jokes on a message board really, really bothers you deep down, then you gotta get a life man.

I know this post will fly overhead, but I had to try. :thumbup:
and if its really that hard for you to follow a few simple rules on a message board you need to get a life...
 
Larry, it boils down to this: We're all men here. Men don't like to be ratted on. I know you like your rules and structure, but COME ON! Nobody is threatening anyone's life here. The mods don't like to be bothered by tattle-tales either. It's time that they'd rather spend enjoying my humor the board. You're not making any friends by reporting posts you deem objectionable. And if reading some jokes on a message board really, really bothers you deep down, then you gotta get a life man.

I know this post will fly overhead, but I had to try. :thumbup:
and if its really that hard for you to follow a few simple rules on a message board you need to get a life...
:reported:
 
Larry, it boils down to this:  We're all men here.  Men don't like to be ratted on.  I know you like your rules and structure, but COME ON!  Nobody is threatening anyone's life here.  The mods don't like to be bothered by tattle-tales either.  It's time that they'd rather spend enjoying my humor the board.  You're not making any friends by reporting posts you deem objectionable.  And if reading some jokes on a message board really, really bothers you deep down, then you gotta get a life man.

I know this post will fly overhead, but I had to try.  :thumbup:
and if its really that hard for you to follow a few simple rules on a message board you need to get a life...
:rotflmao: Had to give it a shot. Adios Larry. Please leave the thread now. PLEASE.
 

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