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I'm new to this bonus stuff, was always just reduced juice at 5d...

only 28.5k more needed to hit the rollover and also another 29 days to wait.

A bonus is a bonus though, I think they said I could just give it back if I hadn't touched it.  I'm supposed to use this last?  Will it just convert to straight cash after I reach the rollover or do I make the free play and collect in cash?  Maybe I should have put just a bit more thought into this ahead of time.

 
hooter311 said:
I'm new to this bonus stuff, was always just reduced juice at 5d...

only 28.5k more needed to hit the rollover and also another 29 days to wait.

A bonus is a bonus though, I think they said I could just give it back if I hadn't touched it.  I'm supposed to use this last?  Will it just convert to straight cash after I reach the rollover or do I make the free play and collect in cash?  Maybe I should have put just a bit more thought into this ahead of time.
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At sportsbetting/BOL, the bonus is a freeplay so you keep the winnings if you win or $0 if it loses.  You can use it whenever you want, doesn't have to be last.  Make sure you don't bet it something that could push as it'd be wasted if that happened.  Sb/BOL are good about not putting as many restrictions on what you can use the freeplay on as some sites. 

Free Play Rules

Free Plays can only be wagered on:

FOOTBALL (NFL / NCAA / CFL / ARENA)

BASKETBALL (NBA / NCAA / WNBA)

MLB Major League Baseball

NHL

CRICKET

SOCCER

BOXING

UFC (MIXED MARTIAL ARTS)

TENNIS

Free Plays can be used only in the Sportsbook on straight bets, parlays and teasers (no round robins).

No point-buying is allowed.

Free Plays lose when a push or tie results.

Free plays do not expire.

Free plays can only be wagered online via the website or the mobile site. Free play wagers cannot be made through the call center.

All free plays are subject to a minimum 6x rollover requirement or greater based on the terms and conditions of the particular promotion, no exceptions.

It is only the amount that you win from the free play that gets added to your account balance.

The maximum winnings from any single wagered free play bonus is $5,000 or $5,000 cumulative from multiple free play bonus wagers from the same bonus.

NOTE: Unless otherwise specified by an Player Services Representative, when you receive a bonus for making a deposit you must roll over the amount you deposited (plus any fees that SportsBetting.ag may have covered), plus the Free Play bonus the specified amount of times. Wagers placed using Free Play do not qualify toward rollover calculation.

For example, if you deposit $1000 and your fees are $15, SportsBetting.ag will credit your account the full $1015 + $250 Free Play Deposit Bonus. So, if you have a ten-time rollover assigned for that deposit bonus, you must roll the entire amount (e.g. $1015 + free play) ten times. Thus, to receive a payout without forfeiting anything you won from your bonus, you must first cover the rollover amount (e.g. $1015 + Free Play times ten).

When calculating "rollover", we use the lower of the risk/reward value as the effective value. For example, if you bet $500 on Team A to win $450, and you bet $400 on Team B to win $350, and you bet $250 on Team C to win $50, the total action applied toward fulfilling the rollover requirement would be $850 ($450 + $350 + $50).

Also, should you accept the Free Play and lose with it or choose not to use it, the Free Play Bonus will still be deducted at the time a payout is requested unless the rollover requirement is met.

There is no hold time or expiration for these bonuses and rollovers, so you may meet the requirements as quickly or as slowly as you wish. Sportsbook bonuses can be rolled over in the Sportsbook only; no play in the casino or in the race book will count towards rollover. The same goes toward Casino Bonuses, which must be rolled over in the Casino.
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TY,

So using them for +$ UFC plays once I hit the rollover is the best bang for my buck, unless I'm missing something.

And put a little bit on the draw each time I another account to prevent frustration.

 
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hooter311 said:
TY,

So using them for +$ plays once I hit the rollover is the best bang for my buck.
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Yes, in my opinion.  No reason to wait until you hit the rollover unless you just want to keep it in your back pocket.  Personally, I usually use freeplays on +$ plays and bet the other side elsewhere to lock in around 65-70% of the freeplay in guaranteed money.  Others like @lumpy19 like to roll the dice on freeplays.  You know...no hedging and all that.  ;)

 
regularguy said:
Yes, in my opinion.  No reason to wait until you hit the rollover unless you just want to keep it in your back pocket.  Personally, I usually use freeplays on +$ plays and bet the other side elsewhere to lock in around 65-70% of the freeplay in guaranteed money.  You know...no hedging and all that.  ;)
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After further thought MMA overs/unders can't push and I bet a ton of them at + odds.  There is my answer.  No hedge necessary.

 
Freeplays at BOL can push and when they do they are refunded to your acct.  Freeplays at bookmaker, a push is a loss so be careful there.

 
lumpy19 said:
Freeplays at BOL can push and when they do they are refunded to your acct.  Freeplays at bookmaker, a push is a loss so be careful there.
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Good to know. I just got in the habit long ago of avoiding the possibility. That's the way it should be done everywhere. 

 
lumpy19 said:
Freeplays at BOL can push and when they do they are refunded to your acct.  Freeplays at bookmaker, a push is a loss so be careful there.
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I'm at sports betting . ag for now.  Still have some at heritage but limited.

So I'm guessing BOL rules in play.  Good lookin out, lump.

 
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I wonder why the phone rep said to use that free play balance last, must have been where I wouldn't have cash out restrictions if it hadn't been touched and I wanted at the rest.  Does anyone know if the 30 day clock for withdrawals begins when I deposit the money or touch the bonus?  Hopefully on the deposit.

 
Rockies  +132
Cubs TT O3.5  -140
Cubs  +132
Angels  +131
Twins   -124
LAA/NYY  F5  O4.5   -130

 
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Washington Nationals -235* vs Atlanta Braves  

Pittsburgh Pirates -125* vs Colorado Rockies  (K Freeland - L must Start   J Taillon - R must Start)
 Chicago Cubs +118* vs New York Mets  (J Lackey - R must Start   J deGrom - R must Start)

San Diego Padres -117* vs Cincinnati Reds  (B Arroyo - R must Start   L Perdomo - R must Start)
 Houston Astros -120*

345s

 
Been looking for an angle on Ward/Kovalev 2, and have stayed gunshy because I'm a big Ward fan, but there's a weird bet on 5D that I think makes a lot of sense.

You can bet Kovalev +115 for Howard Lederman's card only for the first three rounds on 5D. Lederman had the first fight for Kovalev by 5 points, which was wide compared to the consensus. Kovalev also did really well in the first third of that fight, with Ward having to come back in the second half to get a narrow decision. Not that that's how it's going to play out again, I don't think Ward is going to get blitzed (and knocked down again) in the second round, but I do think the round will be fairly slow-paced where one decent shot or flurry can win a round.

Looks like Mayweather/McGregor is getting close for August, I have one prop I really like for that one. I think I'm gonna wait to bet the sides until the very last minute and hope that the price on Mayweather drops. Even at -500 or -600, I think it's worth a play.

 
My number one car wash was closed early so I went to the other one and tried the "new customer" angle. I got a new number two car wash now and they gave me three free basic car wash passes.

 
regularguy said:
so much for that... :rolleyes:  
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This may have been close to the most volatile trading day ever for BTC.  A lot of short term holders were waiting on the 3k mark, not surprised there was a sell off.

Scarcity hasn't become a factor yet, it will in the next 18 months based on my experience and current mining data.  When it does, the price will double from wherever its at in 48 hours or less.  That or a world catastrophe/war or looming US market crash based on Price/Earnings ratios.

Maybe its just wishful thinking based on my position with it, perspective is a helluva drug.

 
UFC preliminaries START 4:30 am eastern Friday night/Saturday morning

Does the board still shut down at that time of night?  I'm kind of loving it from a degenerate standpoint. 

 
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hooter311 said:
This may have been close to the most volatile trading day ever for BTC.  A lot of short term holders were waiting on the 3k mark, not surprised there was a sell off.

Scarcity hasn't become a factor yet, it will in the next 18 months based on my experience and current mining data.  When it does, the price will double from wherever its at in 48 hours or less.  That or a world catastrophe/war or looming US market crash based on Price/Earnings ratios.

Maybe its just wishful thinking based on my position with it, perspective is a helluva drug.
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Are you concerned about the Aug. 1 UASF or whatever?

 
regularguy said:
Are you concerned about the Aug. 1 UASF or whatever?
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Nope.  Similar scare came up 2 years ago, at that time they (No idea who "they" is beyond the facebook twins) voted last minute to keep it the way it is.  It was always strange that the bitcoin "system" was written by an anonymous programmer and just dropped online.  I still don't quite understand all the pieces, but I do feel like I know enough about the ledgers that everything has to be accounted for and bitcoins can't just disappear.  Talk about a Trojan horse if this split is what undoes the whole thing,

I don't fear the fork.  I don't know anything about Etherum except that a lot of very smart financial guys I know of are in on it.  I'm BTC or bust.

 
Good Posting Judge said:
Been looking for an angle on Ward/Kovalev 2, and have stayed gunshy because I'm a big Ward fan, but there's a weird bet on 5D that I think makes a lot of sense.

You can bet Kovalev +115 for Howard Lederman's card only for the first three rounds on 5D. Lederman had the first fight for Kovalev by 5 points, which was wide compared to the consensus. Kovalev also did really well in the first third of that fight, with Ward having to come back in the second half to get a narrow decision. Not that that's how it's going to play out again, I don't think Ward is going to get blitzed (and knocked down again) in the second round, but I do think the round will be fairly slow-paced where one decent shot or flurry can win a round.

Looks like Mayweather/McGregor is getting close for August, I have one prop I really like for that one. I think I'm gonna wait to bet the sides until the very last minute and hope that the price on Mayweather drops. Even at -500 or -600, I think it's worth a play.
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Public money will drop the Floyd line to -800 or -900 straight. 

Then pure MMA fans can find out how a shoulder roll works, Conor will get frustrated and desperate by R4, I'm going to be on a DQ prop because I'm not sure if you can re-wire that much training.  They have to have that a Conor kick forfeits 80% or more of his purse to Floyd.

 
hooter311 said:
Public money will drop the Floyd line to -800 or -900 straight. 

Then pure MMA fans can find out how a shoulder roll works, Conor will get frustrated and desperate by R4, I'm going to be on a DQ prop because I'm not sure if you can re-wire that much training.  They have to have that a Conor kick forfeits 80% or more of his purse to Floyd.
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Wouldnt surprise me. That would make him a folk hero. Although i wonder if mcgregor has resigned himself to defeat and is just there for the money.

These two can sell a fight, though.

 
Tiger Fan said:
Lots of noise this week from all over the media about the optimism that the Supreme Court will life the federal ban on sports betting. 

https://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/06/08/sports-gambling-nfl-mlb-nba-nhl-unions-meeting

http://www.sunherald.com/news/business/article155724539.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/casino-industry-ramps-up-effort-to-repeal-sports-betting-ban/2017/06/12/0577717c-4fd0-11e7-b74e-0d2785d3083d_story.html?utm_term=.87c96ffe9f67
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I will try to keep politics to a bare minimum out of respect for the thread. With that said, I'm thinking as a former casino owner if this gets past the SC to Trump's desk it's a done deal. It's so dumb that it's in the shadows. I use a local in addition to the offshores. Meeting the local is so shady and uncomfortable, would not mind if I never again needed to drop off or pick up an envelope at an agreed upon time to/from (brand) car at (chain) convenience store at X time ever again. Bitcoin-esque ease with my credit card once the ban is lifted and the transactions can flow through legit CC processors just needs to be a reality.

 
mquinnjr said:
I will try to keep politics to a bare minimum out of respect for the thread. With that said, I'm thinking as a former casino owner if this gets past the SC to Trump's desk it's a done deal. It's so dumb that it's in the shadows. I use a local in addition to the offshores. Meeting the local is so shady and uncomfortable, would not mind if I never again needed to drop off or pick up an envelope at an agreed upon time to/from (brand) car at (chain) convenience store at X time ever again. Bitcoin-esque ease with my credit card once the ban is lifted and the transactions can flow through legit CC processors just needs to be a reality.
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Agree.

 
so my stupid 4 your old bought $100 worth of Clash Royale gems on mom's phone (apparently she didn't have password authentication turned on).  so far Google declining my refund request :wall:

think I'm gonna tell him he's gotta pick the US open winner to make up for it

 
mquinnjr said:
I will try to keep politics to a bare minimum out of respect for the thread. With that said, I'm thinking as a former casino owner if this gets past the SC to Trump's desk it's a done deal. It's so dumb that it's in the shadows. I use a local in addition to the offshores. Meeting the local is so shady and uncomfortable, would not mind if I never again needed to drop off or pick up an envelope at an agreed upon time to/from (brand) car at (chain) convenience store at X time ever again. Bitcoin-esque ease with my credit card once the ban is lifted and the transactions can flow through legit CC processors just needs to be a reality.
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Agree.

 
mquinnjr said:
Meeting the local is so shady and uncomfortable, would not mind if I never again needed to drop off or pick up an envelope at an agreed upon time to/from (brand) car at (chain) convenience store at X time ever again.
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:lol:  Sounds more difficult than me but totally agree. I'm 44, do I really need to be meeting "my guy" for secret handshakes?!? Nevermind having to disappear from the wife at said time and "run an errand". Just an all-around pain in the balls. 

 
Billy Bats said:
:lol:  Sounds more difficult than me but totally agree. I'm 44, do I really need to be meeting "my guy" for secret handshakes?!? Nevermind having to disappear from the wife at said time and "run an errand". Just an all-around pain in the balls. 
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Buddy used to handle it for me since him and the agent worked in the same office. Guy moved and handed his accounts to a new agent, and this is how he works. It's an out if they have a favorable line, but not preferred at all. I used this guy for the Dak OROTY last year, he refers to me as "the Dak guy" un-affectionately because they were too slow to take it down so I hit it in with them. Otherwise, pretty much done with them, BTC is so much easier.

 
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