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Official Great Works Draft (3 Viewers)

28.02 NOVEL Flowers for Algernon by Daniel Keyes

A literary success, another novel that has never been out of print since its first printing in 1966 by Harcourt Brace with the Bantam paperback following in 1968. By 2004, it had been translated into 27 languages, published in 30 countries and sold more than 5 million copies. A heartbreaking tale that is still often used in schools as part of the curriculum.

The novel opens with an epigraph discouraging people from laughing at those who are perplexed or weak of vision.[15] The epigraph is taken from Plato's The Republic, part of which reads:

“ Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eye are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye. ”

At the start of the novel, Charlie Gordon is a 32-year-old man[16] with an IQ of 68[17] who works as a janitor and deliveryman for Donner's Bakery. His uncle got him a job there 17 years previously so that Charlie would not have to be sent to an institution, the Warren State Home.[18] Wanting to improve himself, Charlie attends reading and writing classes at the Beekman College Center for ######ed Adults; his instructor is Alice Kinnian, a young, attractive woman. Professor Nemur and Doctor Strauss, two Beekman researchers, are looking for a human subject on whom they can test an experimental surgical technique for increasing intelligence. They have already performed the surgery on a mouse named Algernon, leading to a dramatic improvement in his mental performance. Based on Alice's recommendation and his own motivation to learn, Charlie is picked to undergo the surgery.

The procedure is a success and, three months later, Charlie's IQ has reached 185.[19] However, as his intelligence, education and understanding of the world around him increases, his relationships with people deteriorate. His coworkers at the bakery, who used to amuse themselves at his expense, are now scared and resentful of his increased intelligence; he is fired from his job as a result. Charlie also embarks on a troubled romance with Alice. Even though they develop strong feelings for each other, he is prevented from having a physical relationship by the spectre of a younger Charlie whom the older Charlie feels is always watching. Unable to get close to Alice, Charlie starts a purely sexual relationship with Fay Lillman, a vivacious and promiscuous artist.

Charlie discovers a flaw in the theories that led Nemur and Strauss to develop their intelligence-enhancing procedure. Shortly thereafter, Algernon starts behaving erratically, loses his new intelligence, and dies. As Charlie does further research, he determines that he too will inevitably revert to his old condition. He tries to mend the broken relationships with his parents, without success. His mother, who always insisted he could learn normally, now suffers from dementia and does not recognize him; his father long ago broke off contact with the family out of frustration and also does not realize who he is. Charlie is only able to reconnect with his sister, who hated him for his mental disability when they were growing up.

As Charlie regresses intellectually, Fay becomes scared by the change and stops talking to him. However, Charlie finally attains sufficient emotional maturity to have a brief but fulfilling relationship with Alice. Despite regressing back to his former self, he still remembers that he was once a genius and cannot bear everyone feeling sorry for him. Consequently, he decides to go to live at the Warren State Home where nobody knows about the operation. In a final postscript to his writings, he asks that someone put flowers on Algernon's grave.
 
Will add write-up later; just want to get this moving.

I think it's because I'm wearing a hippie shirt today that I decided I really wanted this:

26.20 An Episode in the Life of an Artist Opus 14 aka Symphonie Fantastique - Hector Berlioz (Composition)

That's "Fantastic Symphony" for Yankee23Fan.
A new one for me, thanks for introducing it. A very enjoyable work.Add me to the "desperate following". Must I submit a NC-17 video or will sending a wizard hat and robe suffice?

 
Raise your hand if you are going to drink a glass of milk or wine this weekend.

:shrug:

Here's the deal, timschochet - when you make a great value pick, it doesn't need a writeup to justify it.

You just post it and watch everyone go :thumbdown:

27.07 (527th pick) - Pasteurization - Scientific discovery

Louis Pasteur

Now that is 27th round value.

:shrug:
Then I have been acting like an obnoxious #####. I thought we were supposed to throw in tidbits about the site / object / idea and interesting trivia or personal connections.
 
Raise your hand if you are going to drink a glass of milk or wine this weekend.

:shrug:

Here's the deal, timschochet - when you make a great value pick, it doesn't need a writeup to justify it.

You just post it and watch everyone go :thumbdown:

27.07 (527th pick) - Pasteurization - Scientific discovery

Louis Pasteur

Now that is 27th round value.

:shrug:
Then I have been acting like an obnoxious #####. I thought we were supposed to throw in tidbits about the site / object / idea and interesting trivia or personal connections.
Don't worry. BL's just doin' it wrong.
 
I believe the hierarchy is:

Wine snobs>>Scotch snobs>>Film snobs (movie? pfft)>>Beer snobs
wrong sircigar snobs>Port snobs>>> wine snobs>> scotch snobs >>>>> beer snobs>>>> roadkill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>film snobs>>film critics

 
I believe the hierarchy is:

Wine snobs>>Scotch snobs>>Film snobs (movie? pfft)>>Beer snobs
wrong sircigar snobs>Port snobs>>> wine snobs>> scotch snobs >>>>> beer snobs>>>> roadkill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>film snobs>>film critics
Literature snobs > humanity. :yes:

 
OK, just read the Wikipedia article on "Welcome To The Jungle" and I can see my problem is that while I am a hard rock fan (of sorts) I am not a metal fan or an expert in metal in anyway. While the song does make some rock lists (very low down, though) it is Metal fans that give it such high status: often #1, top ten, or top 20 of all time. I was unaware of this.Still though, we are looking at an overall ranking of all songs of all genres. It's certainly not even close to unanimous that this is the greatest metal song of all time, but even if it were, how do we place that within an overall context? At this point I have no idea.
Meh leave it to the song judge, I'm not sure who selected it, but it was a huge hit and one of the better songs by a break out group on an introductory album in the 80's. Its a legitimate pick IMHO.
 
OK, just read the Wikipedia article on "Welcome To The Jungle" and I can see my problem is that while I am a hard rock fan (of sorts) I am not a metal fan or an expert in metal in anyway. While the song does make some rock lists (very low down, though) it is Metal fans that give it such high status: often #1, top ten, or top 20 of all time. I was unaware of this.

Still though, we are looking at an overall ranking of all songs of all genres. It's certainly not even close to unanimous that this is the greatest metal song of all time, but even if it were, how do we place that within an overall context? At this point I have no idea.
Meh leave it to the song judge, I'm not sure who selected it, but it was a huge hit and one of the better songs by a break out group on an introductory album in the 80's. Its a legitimate pick IMHO.
the song judge did.
 
I have a rap song I really want to take - but have been sitting on it, just not sure how it will get received.
with the possible exception of pop country, i have albums/downloads from every music genre - Gregorian chants to Slipknot, Buxtehude to Wu Tang. everything gets a fair hearing from me.
Speaking of Gregorian Chant, I highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys choral or classical music genres. I spent 6 weeks at a monastery (as a guest) back in the summer of 87 and became a huge fan of the chants. Just incredibly moving. This is coming from a kid who grew up hooked into the California surf punk movement.
 
OK, just read the Wikipedia article on "Welcome To The Jungle" and I can see my problem is that while I am a hard rock fan (of sorts) I am not a metal fan or an expert in metal in anyway. While the song does make some rock lists (very low down, though) it is Metal fans that give it such high status: often #1, top ten, or top 20 of all time. I was unaware of this.

Still though, we are looking at an overall ranking of all songs of all genres. It's certainly not even close to unanimous that this is the greatest metal song of all time, but even if it were, how do we place that within an overall context? At this point I have no idea.
Meh leave it to the song judge, I'm not sure who selected it, but it was a huge hit and one of the better songs by a break out group on an introductory album in the 80's. Its a legitimate pick IMHO.
the song judge did.
I laugh at myself as I weigh in while catching up only to find topics discussed extensively already. By legitimate pick I meant to put legitimate contender for a top spot.
 
OK, just read the Wikipedia article on "Welcome To The Jungle" and I can see my problem is that while I am a hard rock fan (of sorts) I am not a metal fan or an expert in metal in anyway. While the song does make some rock lists (very low down, though) it is Metal fans that give it such high status: often #1, top ten, or top 20 of all time. I was unaware of this.

Still though, we are looking at an overall ranking of all songs of all genres. It's certainly not even close to unanimous that this is the greatest metal song of all time, but even if it were, how do we place that within an overall context? At this point I have no idea.
Meh leave it to the song judge, I'm not sure who selected it, but it was a huge hit and one of the better songs by a break out group on an introductory album in the 80's. Its a legitimate pick IMHO.
the song judge did.
I laugh at myself as I weigh in while catching up only to find topics discussed extensively already. By legitimate pick I meant to put legitimate contender for a top spot.
:yes: Smooth.
 
The cultural impact os any piece of art is an essential element in judging it. Whether it's Star Trek or The US Constitution, the implications of the thing and the manner in which it changed what came after it must be considered. To suggest the Constitution (or Star Trek) be judged solely on individual merit without regard to what it created and how the world changed because of it is silly.
Star Trek = The US Constitution, eh.Excellent grouping for comparison purposes.

:cry:

I think we have established - this would be about the third time you and I have gone down this road? - that your 'vision' of the Great Works Draft was the ideal philosophy in the Greatest American Draft and the Worlds Greatest Draft, because the whole body of work of an individual should be considered.

This, however, is a different animal.

Yankee23Fan - You are judging Star Trek, the t.v. show. Nothing more. It's not even a mediocre pick - it should be the bottom of the barrel, unless we get some real stinkers from here on out. Def a bottom 3 of the ones taken thus far.

:cry:

Alright, Baby Momma finally got out of an insane strategy session. JFC, I get it, swine flu is kinda of a big deal - but a late Friday afternoon meeting? These friggin' public health officials are nuts...as if the crisis won't be there on Monday, when we get back from the beach.

Enjoy your weekend, folks. I'll check in sometime and make a pick or two.

:wub:
That's flatly preposterous and you know it. Every pick from 1.01 forward has been made with the understanding that historical context and cultural impact were critical components. The New Testament is a pretty boring read, but nobody suggested judging it based solely on how well it reads. Citizen Kane is unwatchable but nobody has suggested it be rated near the bottom because we're all acutely aware of how much it changed the art that followed it. Star Trek is the same way. It fundamentally changed the culture and created entire genres. To suggest all of that be ignored is laughable.
 
The cultural impact os any piece of art is an essential element in judging it. Whether it's Star Trek or The US Constitution, the implications of the thing and the manner in which it changed what came after it must be considered. To suggest the Constitution (or Star Trek) be judged solely on individual merit without regard to what it created and how the world changed because of it is silly.
Star Trek = The US Constitution, eh.Excellent grouping for comparison purposes.

:lol:

I think we have established - this would be about the third time you and I have gone down this road? - that your 'vision' of the Great Works Draft was the ideal philosophy in the Greatest American Draft and the Worlds Greatest Draft, because the whole body of work of an individual should be considered.

This, however, is a different animal.

Yankee23Fan - You are judging Star Trek, the t.v. show. Nothing more. It's not even a mediocre pick - it should be the bottom of the barrel, unless we get some real stinkers from here on out. Def a bottom 3 of the ones taken thus far.

:lmao:

Alright, Baby Momma finally got out of an insane strategy session. JFC, I get it, swine flu is kinda of a big deal - but a late Friday afternoon meeting? These friggin' public health officials are nuts...as if the crisis won't be there on Monday, when we get back from the beach.

Enjoy your weekend, folks. I'll check in sometime and make a pick or two.

:)
That's flatly preposterous and you know it. Every pick from 1.01 forward has been made with the understanding that historical context and cultural impact were critical components. The New Testament is a pretty boring read, but nobody suggested judging it based solely on how well it reads. Citizen Kane is unwatchable but nobody has suggested it be rated near the bottom because we're all acutely aware of how much it changed the art that followed it. Star Trek is the same way. It fundamentally changed the culture and created entire genres. To suggest all of that be ignored is laughable.
besides it taught an entire generation that wearing a red shirt was a piss poor career move for space travelers.
 
OK, just read the Wikipedia article on "Welcome To The Jungle" and I can see my problem is that while I am a hard rock fan (of sorts) I am not a metal fan or an expert in metal in anyway. While the song does make some rock lists (very low down, though) it is Metal fans that give it such high status: often #1, top ten, or top 20 of all time. I was unaware of this.

Still though, we are looking at an overall ranking of all songs of all genres. It's certainly not even close to unanimous that this is the greatest metal song of all time, but even if it were, how do we place that within an overall context? At this point I have no idea.
Meh leave it to the song judge, I'm not sure who selected it, but it was a huge hit and one of the better songs by a break out group on an introductory album in the 80's. Its a legitimate pick IMHO.
the song judge did.
A Song Judge who is drafting songs?? Works for me, Joey Crawford :lmao: I think I have made a mistake by not offering to judge a category, any category, despite my lack of knowledge or interest in it.

Maybe that has something to do with the lack of feedback on my picks :)

Basketball was a lot easier :lol:

 
West Texas, Take 2.

This will be my third and last song. :lmao: I'm torn between this one and another.

In a world filled with anthems dedicated to a guy's desire to "hit it", this song soars above the rest.

28.09 - Oh Pretty Woman by Roy Orbison, Song

 
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OK, just read the Wikipedia article on "Welcome To The Jungle" and I can see my problem is that while I am a hard rock fan (of sorts) I am not a metal fan or an expert in metal in anyway. While the song does make some rock lists (very low down, though) it is Metal fans that give it such high status: often #1, top ten, or top 20 of all time. I was unaware of this.

Still though, we are looking at an overall ranking of all songs of all genres. It's certainly not even close to unanimous that this is the greatest metal song of all time, but even if it were, how do we place that within an overall context? At this point I have no idea.
Meh leave it to the song judge, I'm not sure who selected it, but it was a huge hit and one of the better songs by a break out group on an introductory album in the 80's. Its a legitimate pick IMHO.
the song judge did.
I laugh at myself as I weigh in while catching up only to find topics discussed extensively already. By legitimate pick I meant to put legitimate contender for a top spot.
:lmao: Smooth.
not sucking up, from my perspective, when it dropped much of the popular music was a bunch of whine and moan crap. G&R hit the scene with a "break the equipment, pass the drugs, and Slash order out a few more hookers why don't ya" attitude that rocked.speaking of rock

Nothing can top coming back from class one day to find my roommate from the Bahamas rocking out to some Micheal Jackson like he was taking over the world. I open the door, there he is in his towel throwing down to awful music while some "get in my belly" looking broad is swilling down one of my better bottles of wine and I suppose waiting for him to psych up for the impending event. I just laughed and left him to his romancing like a good roomie. What the heck, he put up with me stumble drunk half the time so I owed him for that.

 
I think I have made a mistake by not offering to judge a category, any category, despite my lack of knowledge or interest in it.
Not worth the hassle, dude. Don't worry about it.As for your picks, a few of them were totally off my radar, which is more fun as a :lmao: learning experience, but I don't know how to respond to them.
 
MisfitBlondes said:
I think I have made a mistake by not offering to judge a category, any category, despite my lack of knowledge or interest in it.
Not worth the hassle, dude. Don't worry about it.
Oh come on, being a judge is great. Everyone accepts the decisions gracefully and there's pleasant discussions about the wisdom of all the judges. :thumbup:
But as I understand it, all the punch and pie is already gone.
 
MisfitBlondes said:
MisfitBlondes said:
I think I have made a mistake by not offering to judge a category, any category, despite my lack of knowledge or interest in it.
Not worth the hassle, dude. Don't worry about it.
Oh come on, being a judge is great. Everyone accepts the decisions gracefully and there's pleasant discussions about the wisdom of all the judges. :banned:
But as I understand it, all the punch and pie is already gone.
Screw that then. :thumbup:
Pretty much. :shrug:
 
Yankee23Fan - You are judging Star Trek, the t.v. show. Nothing more. It's not even a mediocre pick - it should be the bottom of the barrel, unless we get some real stinkers from here on out. Def a bottom 3 of the ones taken thus far.
Not to diss my partner, but even though Star Trek only ran 3 seasons, it was groundbreaking in many ways. It was one of the first racially integrated shows; they even had the BALLS to cast a RUSSIAN as the pilot (or whatever Chekov did) during the Cold War. It wasn't just a good show, like the very best of sci-fi, it was a vision expressed in dramatic form. Hence its staying power and subsequent cult following.Plus Kirk banged anything that moved. You have to respect that. While people were trying to end segregation, Kirk is on the tube swinging his salami at green chicks.

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Fredo Flysack -You're my older brother Special Advisor and I love you iFriend.

But don't ever take sides against the family team.

Ever.

105 miles later I'm in paradise and have an inspirational pick for the 28th round. I see you took us off autoskip - whatchagot? PM sent.

 
28.09 - Team CIA (autoskip)

28.10 - El Floppo (autoskip if not here in first 15)

28.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

28.12 - Wikkidpissah can pick if you're here

28.13 - Tides of War

28.14 - BobbyLayne (autoskip if not around)

28.15 - Abrantes

28.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

28.17 - Timscochet

28.18 - Postradamus (autoskip if not here in first 15)

28.19 - Rodg

28.20 - Krista
Just sayin'...
 
Will add write-up later; just want to get this moving.

I think it's because I'm wearing a hippie shirt today that I decided I really wanted this:

26.20 An Episode in the Life of an Artist Opus 14 aka Symphonie Fantastique - Hector Berlioz (Composition)

That's "Fantastic Symphony" for Yankee23Fan.
A new one for me, thanks for introducing it. A very enjoyable work.Add me to the "desperate following". Must I submit a NC-17 video or will sending a wizard hat and robe suffice?
:X I guess I should have included a link to a performance; I'm glad you sought it out. :lmao: NC17 preferred plz.

 
OK, just read the Wikipedia article on "Welcome To The Jungle" and I can see my problem is that while I am a hard rock fan (of sorts) I am not a metal fan or an expert in metal in anyway. While the song does make some rock lists (very low down, though) it is Metal fans that give it such high status: often #1, top ten, or top 20 of all time. I was unaware of this.

Still though, we are looking at an overall ranking of all songs of all genres. It's certainly not even close to unanimous that this is the greatest metal song of all time, but even if it were, how do we place that within an overall context? At this point I have no idea.
Meh leave it to the song judge, I'm not sure who selected it, but it was a huge hit and one of the better songs by a break out group on an introductory album in the 80's. Its a legitimate pick IMHO.
the song judge did.
A Song Judge who is drafting songs?? Works for me, Joey Crawford :X I think I have made a mistake by not offering to judge a category, any category, despite my lack of knowledge or interest in it.

Maybe that has something to do with the lack of feedback on my picks :lmao:

Basketball was a lot easier :lmao:
Um, you realize people can't judge their own picks, right? Ah, nevermind.

 
28.12 STRING THEORY - Nambu, Nielsen & Susskind (1968?), Scientific discovery

Yeah, i know it aint proved (mostly cuz we havent the technological capacity by which to do so) but just the thought of what could finally coordinate the physical & quantum worlds into a "theory of everything" is discovery enough for me. Also, i got no science chops whatsoever (much to the chagrin of my research scientist father), but there's a lot of wonderin goes on in my head. i always thought the material of what we know as "God" is extradimensional & what i've read says that 11 additional dimensions are required to explain superstrings in a usable context, so the search for those just might buy us more than we bargained for & i like the idea of that, too. nufced

 
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28.12 STRING THEORY - Nambu, Nielsen & Susskind (1968?), Scientific discovery

Yeah, i know it aint proved (mostly cuz we havent the technological capacity by which to do so) but just the thought of what could finally coordinate the physical & quantum worlds into a "theory of everything" is discovery enough for me. Also, i got no science chops whatsoever (much to the chagrin of my research scientist father), but there's a lot of wonderin goes on in my head. i always thought the material of what we know as "God" is extradimensional & what i've read says that 11 additional dimensions are required to explain superstrings in a usable context, so the search for those just might buy us more than we bargained for & i like the idea of that, too. nufced
Far out, man.
 
So, we're being held up at this point by the guy who was ######## and moaning about not being available during the day but available at night and on weekends so the clock should go 24x7? Interesting.

:thumbup:

 
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23.05 - Doug B (requested skip)

24.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

25.05 - Doug B (autoskip)

26.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

27.05 - Doug B - (autoskip)

27.10 - Thatguy (autoskip until further notice)

28.06 - Bob Lee Swagger (autoskip)

28.10 - El Floppo (autoskip if not here in first 15)

28.11 - Thatguy (autoskip)

28.13 - Tides of War - Up

28.14 - BobbyLayne - On Deck

28.15 - Abrantes - In The Hole

28.16 - Doug B (autoskip)

28.17 - Timscochet

28.18 - Postradamus (autoskip if not here in first 15)

28.19 - Rodg

28.20 - Krista

 
28.13 - "Olympia - Festival of Peoples, Festival of Beauty" - Documentary - Leni Reifenstahl

The first Doc film on The Olympics ever made, it documented the 1936 Berlin Summer Olympics, one of the most signifcant Games in history.

Olympia is a 1938 film by Leni Riefenstahl documenting the 1936 Summer Olympics, held in the Olympic Stadium in Berlin. The movie was produced in two parts: Olympia 1. Teil — Fest der Völker (Festival of Peoples) and Olympia 2. Teil — Fest der Schönheit (Festival of Beauty). Commissioned by the International Olympic Committee, it was the first documentary film on the Olympic Games ever made. Many advanced motion picture techniques, which later became industry standards but which were groundbreaking at the time, were employed, including unusual camera angles, smash cuts, extreme close-ups, setting the railway tracks on the stadium to shoot the crowd and the like. The techniques employed are almost universally admired, but the film is controversial due to its political content. Nevertheless, the film appears on many lists of the greatest films of all-time, including Time magazine's "All-Time 100 Movies."
The Look on Hitler's face after American and Alabamian Jesse Owens wins sprinting gold, is as revealing as it is priceless.Leni and German Sports official devised the first Olympic Torch Run for the film, and Leni appears in the films prologue as an uncredited nude dancer.

The film exhibits the concept of Aryan Supremacy, and foreshadows through athletics the struggle between Nazi Germany and her allies, and the free world.

Wikki on "Olympia"

 
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Still too busy to catch up today. Usually, Saturdays in the office are dead and I can screw around online, but not today.

Won't really be able to attempt to catch up until Monday a.m. ... maybe. I don't mind falling behind 12-14 picks, but if it gets to the middle of next week and I still can't get to these picks, I will have to consider dropping out.

 
Still too busy to catch up today. Usually, Saturdays in the office are dead and I can screw around online, but not today.Won't really be able to attempt to catch up until Monday a.m. ... maybe. I don't mind falling behind 12-14 picks, but if it gets to the middle of next week and I still can't get to these picks, I will have to consider dropping out.
:confused: Hope it doesn't come down to that. I was looking forward to your avalanche of picks.
 
Still too busy to catch up today. Usually, Saturdays in the office are dead and I can screw around online, but not today.Won't really be able to attempt to catch up until Monday a.m. ... maybe. I don't mind falling behind 12-14 picks, but if it gets to the middle of next week and I still can't get to these picks, I will have to consider dropping out.
:confused: Check in when you can. Abrantes, flysack is now gone, and I can't tell whether they were still on autoskip or not--can you?
 

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