***OFFICIAL*** Green Bay vs Seattle Season Opener Thread! (1 Viewer)

[Hooper31]

IMO making statements like <team A> is better than <Team B> because of <blah blah> is a waste. Why bother? They're not the same teams that played last year, or the year before. Seasons go by. Teams get better and worse and different aspects.

Why the Seattle offense is improved this year:

QB Russell Wilson is on fire right now. Sure, preseason doesn't matter. Whatever. Wilson has looked like the best QB in the league so far this year. I know that will change. He's likely not going to be continue to lead the league statistically through the season, but he has the first team offense rolling.

The Seahawks got their most dynamic and explosive player back. WR Percy Harvin is going to get lots and lots of touches. Don't give me that line about injury prone. Every skill position player is an injury risk. Every player is one play away from sitting. Right now Harvin looks like a legitimate game changer. I wouldn't want to be a defensive coordinator trying to figure out what to do about the "Harvin problem". He's just electric.

The Seattle OGs are much better than 1 year ago. Both Sweezy and Carpenter will play a big role in making RB Lynch look like a stud. Speaking of Lynch, he's playing for a contract this season. He's well aware that he could be a cap casualty next summer.

Why the Seattle offense is worse this year:

The Seattle OTs are struggling a bit. LT Okung isn't ready for the season to start. He's been hurt and not getting reps. He played well into the game during week 4 of the preseason to get him more reps. It was a bit underwhelming. RT Britt isn't ready to handle speed pass rushers. He and RG Sweezy have played well as a tandem in the run game, but Britt has nearly gotten Wilson's body crushed a few times this preseason. Fortunately few can hustle like Russell. He's tough to catch.

Why the Seattle defense is improved this year:

I wish I could think of a good reason. I guess the overall defense is still very young and returning almost the entire unit. Sherman, Thomas, and Chancellor are all special and unique athletes. Talk about Seattle DBs being reigned in by some new rules are folly. Its the so-so DBs across the league that are going to struggle. Seattle DBs haven't been getting away with anything special. They're just better than the DBs on other teams.

Why the Seattle defense is worse this year:

LEO Clemons and LDE Bryant are now starting in JAX. Yes, it was time for both to go, but they were a big part of a great run defense (especially Red). Further, there's a leadership aspect that's going to be missed. Avril and Bennett have been great at getting pressure, but if they have to play more snaps I think it hurts the overall defense. I have doubts about the effectiveness of WIlliams and Hill stepping into the rotation. Neither really shined in the preseason.

The LB corp has been missing two starters for most of the preseason. Wagner played a lot of snaps in week 4 of the preseason. I think he'll be fine. Smith is much better as a reserve. I've been referring to him as the weakest link for two years. He was in the right place at the right time in the playoffs last year, but he's not the long term solution at the OLB spot. I think they will miss Irvin early in the season.

CB Maxwell has been getting picked on this preseason. He has solid ball skills like Sherman, but struggles in man coverage.

Prediction?

I think Seattle will go 3-deep most of the game against GB. The Seattle LBs and Chancellor against the GB TE's will be an interesting matchup. It was mentioned above. Seattle limits big plays on defense. Seahawks are dominate on defense because they keep everything in front of them and they TACKLE better than any other team, especially on the back end.

Not sure what to expect when GB has the ball. I think they will try and ram it down Seattle's throat with Lacy. We'll see. If they get GB in third and longs it will be a long night for Rodgers.

My guess is it comes down to run defense/offense. Who can move the sticks without submitting their QB to hits and potential turnovers. I understand why Seattle is the favorite, but could see either team winning with a few big plays.

EDIT: spellin

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

totally neutral observer here, I think Seattle rolls them

 

[Hooper31]

Would love for a GB homer to do something similar to my post above. Why are your offense/defense better/worse?

 

[sho nuff]

Would love for a GB homer to do something similar to my post above. Why are your offense/defense better/worse?

Been contemplating it...so I will give it a go.

Why the Packer Offense is improved this year:

First huge reason...Aaron Rodgers is healthy. When you have arguably the best QB in the game healthy, the offense is just better than when he was sidelined for so long.

Beyond Rodgers' health is an improved backup QB situation. Flynn back for all offseason and has command of the offense and Tolzien getting a full offseason in McCarthy's system. Better than going into a season with a freshly acquired Seneca Wallace.

Year 2 of Lacy and Starks and adding Harris back into the mix makes this a formidable backfield.

On the Offensive line, they get Bulaga back at RT (an improvement over Barclay and Newhouse for sure). Bahktiari was not perfect last year, but made strides as a rookie. Improved depth with Sherrod healthy finally and having both guards back.

WRs are healthy and deep with Cobb, Nelson, Boykin all back. Newcomers Adams and Janis add to the depth and Janis has made some big plays in the preseason. Newcomer Richard Rodgers had a nice camp at TE and they still have Quarless.

Why the offense is worse this year:

The reasons it could be worse this year is going to another new C after EDS left. Linsley is a rookie starting at C for the season while the other new C JC Tretter is out with an injury. Always a concern starting a rookie on the Oline against a great D in a very hostile environment. They will have to rely on the veteran guards to help him out and make calls. This could also lead to more usage of a TE kept in to block or a back being needed to stick around more to block than release into pass patterns.

WR they lost James Jones. He provided some nice plays with a big body and pretty sure hands.

TE is just a revolving question mark of unproven guys and an underwhelming Quarless.

Why the defense is improved this year:

Health again is a big reason. Clay is not struggling coming in with any hamstring issues (same for Hayward) and his thumb seems to be holding up. Addition of Peppers on the other side giving them another pass rush threat should hopefully bring more consistent pressure. Neal, Perry, and rookie preseason star Elliot add the depth there.

Daniels anchoring the Dline and getting contributions from 2nd year Datone Jones should make it a pretty decent front. Also brought in Guion to play the nose.

The secondary gets Hayward back as the slot corner to build on his rookie year a few years back. S position was shored up both by the moving of Hyde and the addition of first round pick Clinton-Dix. Tramon should be more healthy than he had been and Shields coming off a nice year. They can shift Hyde in to corner in sub packages to get Clinton-Dix on the field. Bush providing veteran depth as does Davon House. This may not be a group of playmaking stars...but they have good depth this year to withstand injuries.

Why the defense is worse this year:

Lost their projected starting NT for the year in Raji. Boyd is pretty raw still and Guion missed a lot of camp with injuries. Depth on the front will have to be supplemented with OLBs Neal and Peppers.

Peppers is a bit older and has not played OLB in his NFL career. If he does not have much left in the tank, they are leaving it up to Neal and Perry to step up. Matthews has had injury problems in previous years...so its likely he does miss some time.

ILB is completely underwhelming. Hawk is solid, but unspectacular...he simply does not add to any pass rush or make big game changing plays and Jones is just a guy. Depth there is very unproven as well.

Secondary may have to rely on depth as Tramon is getting up there in age and Hayward has not been able to stay healthy in his short career.

Prediction:

Rodgers has the talent and his weapons healthy to always keep the Packers in any game. He and McCarthy need to stay patient and stick to the ground game. Cliche, but take what the defense gives you underneath (like they used to do against the Bears D that would limit big plays). When you do have a chance against one on one coverage...make the right throw (give only your WR a chance to get the ball).

Defense is the scary thing...while they have experience defending Harvin...he is such a game breaking talent they have to be wary of him. Use your front to limit the big plays out of the run game and keep Wilson in front of you. If the Packers can't defend the middle of the field, they are in trouble on D. Have to not only create a pass rush, but have to tackle when you have the chance and don't let Wilson break contain. He is not the running threat that Kaepernick is...but he is smarter and uses the breaking of containment to make big throws downfield. He and Rodgers may be the best in the league at escaping and making a throw for a big gain because they look downfield while they scramble.

Im with Hooper on this...Seattle is favored for the right reasons...great defense, at home, and a team that shut down a very potent offense in the last real game. GB has a chance because of how good #12 is.

 

[ImTheScientist]

http://www.hawkblogger.com/2014/08/hawk-blogger-2014-season-preview-part_30.html#more

Scoring 43 points in a Super Bowl usually shines a light on a team's offense. Having stars like Marshawn Lynch, Russell Wilson and Percy Harvin grants most teams the spotlight and respect. Somehow, despite their pedigree, the Seahawks offense remains one of the league's best kept secrets. Many laud the defense, but see the offense as along for the ride. This was a team that was scoring 28+ points per game and had a quarterback with a rating near 110.0 before a late-season slump. Even then, they finished 8th in the NFL in scoring, tied with the almighty Aaron Rodgers, Eddie Lacy and the Green Bay Packers, and more than Drew Brees and the Saints. People know the Lions to be an explosive offense, but they scored less than Seattle and had a lower percentage of explosive pass plays (12.4% vs 9.7%). People look at the Seahawks defense and see Kate Upton, but when they look at the offense, it's as if they have theShallow Hal syndrome. The league will soon be forced to recognize what could be the most efficient offense in the league.


Offense – Starters
Russell Wilson+ – QB
Marshawn Lynch+ – RB
Derrick Coleman – FB
Percy Harvin* – WR
Doug Baldwin* – WR
Jermaine Kearse* – WR
Zach Miller – TE
Luke Willson – TE
Justin Britt* – RT
J.R. Sweezy – RG
Max Unger+ – C
James Carpenter – LG
Russell Okung – LT
* New Starter or New Position
+ Pro Bowl
++ All-Pro

Offense – Running Game
Seattle went on their championship run last year despite a drop-off in their running game. A team that was built to set the tone with a reliable rushing attack struggled to find consistent footing, and ended up with ~30 fewer yards per game and a half-yard less per carry than in 2012. Much of this was due to an offensive line that barely managed to field the same lineup two games in a row all year. That group appears poised for a large step forward, and that is without factoring in the impact of a guy like Percy Harvin, who could net 50 yards rushing on two or three carries. Seattle will look to stretch defenses horizontally with Harvin's speed along with Wilson's instincts, and punish them physically up the middle. Body blow. Body blow. Haymaker.

Offense – Passing Game
If the offense in general operates incognito, the passing game is in witness protection. People know the names Golden Tate and Sidney Rice and assume their absences will have a negative impact. They see a short Doug Baldwin, an anonymous Jermaine Kearse, and think "average at best." Wilson can only improve in his third season anticipating defenses and distributing the ball to open players. Wilson was already the deadliest deep thrower in football a season ago. And now we will likely have more high-percentage throws to guys like Harvin that could go for long gains.

OFFENSE – QUARTERBACK

Wilson became the 3rd-youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl in his second season. He recorded his second straight 100+ rating season. Consider that Brett Favre had only one such year, and Matt Ryan has not yet had his first. Wilson is irrepressible with the game on the line, and is almost gravitationally pulled toward points. Believe it or not, a guy that made the Pro Bowl as a rookie and won a ring in his second year may be headed toward his most memorable season so far. He has a better line, better weapons and greater command.
OFFENSE – OFFENSIVE LINE
The guard play for the Seahawks in 2013 was below league average. One of the hypotheses about how a short quarterback like Wilson was that he would required excellent guard play to keep the interior of the pocket clean so he could see. That was how the Saints built their line for Brees. Wilson decided to excel with inferior guard play, but he may get to see how the other side lives this year as J.R. Sweezy and James Carpenter look like completely different players than a year ago. Sweezy looks headed toward a Pro Bowl-caliber season. Carpenter has always had talent, but was rarely in shape to realize it. Now, he is. Max Unger played much of last season hurt, and looks back to his All-Pro self. And Russell Okung has had a couple weeks to work back into form. Each of those four players has Pro Bowl potential this year. Wilson has not thrown behind a line like that and Lynch has not run behind one. Justin Britt steps in as a rookie and will struggle in pass protection. He should improve as time goes on, and can get some help from Zach Miller. The team chose not to keep veteran Eric Winston as insurance, and will instead go with Alvin Bailey as the backup at both LT and RT, with Gary Gilliam coming up behind him.

Okung did not play to his standards since he has come back, and there are always injury concerns with him, Unger and Carpenter. This unit can be as bad, maybe even worse, than last year's squad if they have the same level of injury issues. Should this group play to their potential, this offense will have no weaknesses.
OFFENSE – BACKFIELD
Lynch got some attention for a holdout ahead of what most believe is his final year in Seattle. He is back, and looks like the Marshawn everyone has come to know and love. There is no reason to think he won't put up another 1200+ yards and 10+ touchdowns. The team clearly wants to involve Robert Turbin and Christine Michael more, and their carries could increase as the season wears on. Lynch never clicked with fullback Derrick Coleman last year, so it will be important to see some chemistry and trust develop there.

OFFENSE – WIDE RECEIVERS/TIGHT ENDS
It was not that long ago that Terrell Owens was the big story in the Seahawks training camp. John Schneider has turned over the roster at receiver the last two seasons by adding Harvin, Paul Richardson and Kevin Norwood. Doug Baldwin has earned a chance to show his abilities on the outside, and has looked dynamic throughout training camp. Kearse has proven time and again that he can make the play when it matters. These receivers are running free right now, and it remains to be seen whether there is a secondary that can match up with them. Seahawks fans have not even seen Norwood yet, who may be the fourth-best receiver on the roster. Richardson will probably fill the Kearse role of last year and have 20-25 catches by years end. Ricardo Lockette has become a special teams standout and has refined his receiving skills.

Miller is still the mainstay at tight end, but Willson could have a breakout year. His speed up the seam has already shown up against the likes of Patrick Willis. Most linebackers cannot keep up with him, and the safeties have to keep their eyes on Harvin and Lynch. Defensive coordinators will spend time trying to take away five other players before worrying about Willson. That might change by mid-season.

Offense – Overall 2014 Outlook
Carroll has built a team that can beat you in any phase of the game, and now he has built an offense that can make a defense attempt to cover every blade of grass horizontally and vertically across the field. They can beat you with power. They can beat you with speed. They can throw long, throw short, throw wide, throw middle. Their main weakness had been shoddy pass protection. If they can finish in the top half of the league in sacks allowed, they will score over 30 points per game.

Consider that dating back to the Super Bowl and and during preseason, this offense has punted just once in their last 21 possessions. They have scored 13 touchdowns during that time. Sure, preseason games do not count, but the fact is, we have not yet seen a defense that is capable of stopping this offense with Harvin on the field. That defense may not exist. Of course, counting on Harvin to be there all year is not a good historical bet. The offensive line is far more critical, though, than Harvin. If they can be steady and good, Lynch, Wilson, Baldwin, Kearse, the young receivers and Willson will score plenty. Michael is the powerball in this lottery. Nobody is expecting heavy reliance on him yet, but any set that features him, Harvin, Willson and Richardson is going to test the speed of whatever defense is across from them.

Heading into the season, my confidence is higher in the offense than the defense. The defense may be Kate Upton, but this offense is Brooklyn Decker. Or, for the ladies out there, maybe Brad Pitt and George Clooney? Teams will enter games focused on how to beat the Seahawks defense. The will exit wondering how to stop the offense. This should be the best offense the Seahawks franchise has ever seen. The 2005 team scored 28.3 points per game. That is a minimum bar. Watch this team score over 30 points per game, and listen for that stunned silence when all the pundits realize they have once again overlooked Seattle's dominant talent.

 

[Bruce Leroy]

Lacy gashes the Seattle defense, early & often to a 14-0 lead. Pete finally has enough & puts 8 in the box & then the fireworks really begin. Sherman gets torched by Jordy & Byron Maxwell is no match for Randall Cobb.

Packers +5.5

After this game the Packers won't be "underdogs" the rest of the Season.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Lacy gashes the Seattle defense, early & often to a 14-0 lead. Pete finally has enough & puts 8 in the box & then the fireworks really begin. Sherman gets torched by Jordy & Byron Maxwell is no match for Randall Cobb.

Packers +5.5

After this game the Packers won't be "underdogs" the rest of the Season.

Tell me, what color is the sky in your world? My guess is green and yellow.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Doesn't Aaron Rodgers still owe someone his salary from last year? His decision making ability isn't as what it once was.

Seahawks 42

Green Bay 8

 

[Hooper31]

Thanks, sho nuff. Appreciate the input.

 

[sho nuff]

Thanks, sho nuff. Appreciate the input.

Same to you...nice to have well thought out info without all the over the top garbage one way or another.

 

[AAABatteries]

All I can think of when I think of these two teams is what an arrogant ### Aaron Rodgers is. Remember his sorry self apologizing to all fans every where for the refs.. What a clown.

This is what I think of when I see these two teams playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAgG9XcrDFY

 

[Riversco]

Vikings new stadium design is all white and angular and reminds of Superman's Fortress of Solitude.

 

[biju]

All I can think of when I think of these two teams is what an arrogant ### Aaron Rodgers is. Remember his sorry self apologizing to all fans every where for the refs.. What a clown.

This is what I think of when I see these two teams playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAgG9XcrDFY

Obviously I remember that. But as a fan I loved the cocky attitude--it was something we hadn't seen before and at the end of the day Hasselbeck was partially responsible for bringing us to our first SB even if it was eventually a loss. After years of hope he began to turn the corner for us.

Hasselbeck should retire a Seahawk.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Vikings new stadium design is all white and angular and reminds of Superman's Fortress of Solitude.

It will also contain the same number of Lombardi trophies.

 

[DiStefano]

Even though I think that Rodgers is the best starting QB in the NFL right now, and even though I am a believer in "start your studs", I think this opening game, at Seattle, will be sheer crowd madness and insanity. That spells "high risk". Yes, Rodgers should do well, although I think the Hawks will win.

As it happens, I own a pretty good backup QB--Phillip Rivers. (long story). Rather than roll the dice with Rodgers, I'm going to ride Rivers for this one game. But you have to go with your gut sometimes.

 

[JetMaxx]

Even though I think that Rodgers is the best starting QB in the NFL right now, and even though I am a believer in "start your studs", I think this opening game, at Seattle, will be sheer crowd madness and insanity. That spells "high risk". Yes, Rodgers should do well, although I think the Hawks will win.

As it happens, I own a pretty good backup QB--Phillip Rivers. (long story). Rather than roll the dice with Rodgers, I'm going to ride Rivers for this one game. But you have to go with your gut sometimes.

Exactly. I'm going Wilson over Rodgers. The young guy starts his first MVP season with a 4 TD night.

 

[biju]

Even though I think that Rodgers is the best starting QB in the NFL right now, and even though I am a believer in "start your studs", I think this opening game, at Seattle, will be sheer crowd madness and insanity. That spells "high risk". Yes, Rodgers should do well, although I think the Hawks will win.

As it happens, I own a pretty good backup QB--Phillip Rivers. (long story). Rather than roll the dice with Rodgers, I'm going to ride Rivers for this one game. But you have to go with your gut sometimes.

Having gone to both preseason games in Seattle so far I can tell you hands down the crowd will be tough in that first game back at home. The preseason crowds were loud so I can't imagine how loud it will be during the regular season. I'm bringing earplugs.

 

[Sabertooth]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

How?

 

[CapnJB]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

Imagine what would happen if they started allowing fully covered stadiums!!!!!

 

[Sabertooth]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

Imagine what would happen if they started allowing fully covered stadiums!!!!!

I blasting speakers in there.

 

[The General]

Even though I think that Rodgers is the best starting QB in the NFL right now, and even though I am a believer in "start your studs", I think this opening game, at Seattle, will be sheer crowd madness and insanity. That spells "high risk". Yes, Rodgers should do well, although I think the Hawks will win.

As it happens, I own a pretty good backup QB--Phillip Rivers. (long story). Rather than roll the dice with Rodgers, I'm going to ride Rivers for this one game. But you have to go with your gut sometimes.

Having gone to both preseason games in Seattle so far I can tell you hands down the crowd will be tough in that first game back at home. The preseason crowds were loud so I can't imagine how loud it will be during the regular season. I'm bringing earplugs.

Yup. Said it earlier but the combo of the 5 pm start, perfect weather, plenty of time to booze it up, and then the ring ceremony. Place will be as loud as ever.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

What is stopping every other team from designing their stadium the same way?

 

[biju]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

Imagine what would happen if they started allowing fully covered stadiums!!!!!

I blasting speakers in there.

When you think about it, it's pretty crazy how Paul Allen was able to get a crew to come in quickly and without being noticed to MetLife stadium and make it the exact same way as in Seattle just to #### with the Broncos in the SB.

 

[Freelove]

Even though I think that Rodgers is the best starting QB in the NFL right now, and even though I am a believer in "start your studs", I think this opening game, at Seattle, will be sheer crowd madness and insanity. That spells "high risk". Yes, Rodgers should do well, although I think the Hawks will win.

As it happens, I own a pretty good backup QB--Phillip Rivers. (long story). Rather than roll the dice with Rodgers, I'm going to ride Rivers for this one game. But you have to go with your gut sometimes.

You drafted him later on? Because that's how I got both those guys.

 

[DiStefano]

Even though I think that Rodgers is the best starting QB in the NFL right now, and even though I am a believer in "start your studs", I think this opening game, at Seattle, will be sheer crowd madness and insanity. That spells "high risk". Yes, Rodgers should do well, although I think the Hawks will win.

As it happens, I own a pretty good backup QB--Phillip Rivers. (long story). Rather than roll the dice with Rodgers, I'm going to ride Rivers for this one game. But you have to go with your gut sometimes.

You drafted him later on? Because that's how I got both those guys.

Well, good for you. But he was gone by the time I wanted to pick him up, so I had to put a package trade together, because I didn't particularly want Andy Dalton.

 

[MoveToSkypager]

So... did Aaron Rodgers give last year's salary away? I didn't see any news reports, and no one answered my previous question.

 

[sho nuff]

So... did Aaron Rodgers give last year's salary away? I didn't see any news reports, and no one answered my previous question.

Don't know...don't care.

 

[hauser42]

Most interested in how the zebras call this game, after the crazy preseason we just had. We will see if things change and they go back to letting there be contact now that it is the regular season. NFL is under the bright lights with the new rules and we see if the commish and Zebras are on the same page.

 

[Freelove]

Even though I think that Rodgers is the best starting QB in the NFL right now, and even though I am a believer in "start your studs", I think this opening game, at Seattle, will be sheer crowd madness and insanity. That spells "high risk". Yes, Rodgers should do well, although I think the Hawks will win.

As it happens, I own a pretty good backup QB--Phillip Rivers. (long story). Rather than roll the dice with Rodgers, I'm going to ride Rivers for this one game. But you have to go with your gut sometimes.

You drafted him later on? Because that's how I got both those guys.

Well, good for you. But he was gone by the time I wanted to pick him up, so I had to put a package trade together, because I didn't particularly want Andy Dalton.

That was long.

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

You are a whacked dude.

 

[Donnybrook]

The biggest advantage is Lynch and company running up the middle on Letroy Guion and keeping GB's offense on the sideline.

 

[biju]

The biggest advantage is Lynch and company running up the middle on Letroy Guion and keeping GB's offense on the sideline.

Yeah, I was just reading about GB might employ a 2-5 or 2-6 front (depending on the offensive lineup) in order to get faster on the sides but that certainly means more Beast up the middle.

 

[GreenNGold]

The Packers should win easily. Seattle is really lucky they didn't have to face them last year.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Well when you design your stadium specifically to be loud, you get a loud stadium. That is a big advantage, but kind of bull#### in a way too.

You are a whacked dude.

He's getting nervous and looking for excuses.

 

[MrSoup]

Bears fan here, so obviously I want nothing else than to see the Packers get stomped, but I just have a gut feeling Rodgers goes off and the Packers win in convincing fashion while reminding everybody that he's still arguably the best QB in the league. Rodgers can make major plays outside the pocket. Peyton Manning couldn't. Watch for Rodgers to pick up at least one KEY 3rd down with his feet that extends a scoring drive. As much as I hate the sonofa#####, he's pretty damn good.

 

[Gene Sackman]

Bah.. Lynch can not be stopped and keeps GB's offense off the field. When they do stop him, Wilson picks up short easy throws for first downs. Rodgers gets hit early and often and loses his cool. By the end of the game he is so frazzled that he tries to fight Sherman and gets knocked the #### out!!!

 

[MarcO]

Well, I'm sure everyone knows where I stand on this one. I just hope when there aren't any flags against the Seattle CBs you guys recognize it's because they never have played the "holding" game people think they do.

In all seriousness (since I'm sure the holding narrative will live on forever for some of you), I honestly predict the Packers have more defensive back penalties than Seattle does.

Seahawks were the only team in the NFL that didn't get a defensive holding call this preseason

 

[Phenomena]

Bears fan here, so obviously I want nothing else than to see the Packers get stomped, but I just have a gut feeling Rodgers goes off and the Packers win in convincing fashion while reminding everybody that he's still arguably the best QB in the league. Rodgers can make major plays outside the pocket. Peyton Manning couldn't. Watch for Rodgers to pick up at least one KEY 3rd down with his feet that extends a scoring drive. As much as I hate the sonofa#####, he's pretty damn good.

still... arguably...?

If there were a redraft Rodgers would be the landslide 1.01 pick. He has no weakness in his game. His memory and instincts are flawless and he has the best arm in the game. He plays ruthlessly efficient, has underrated mobility, and can thread a needle sideline-to-sideline from 40 yards out. Rodgers will remain the best QB in the game until Luck starts to come into his potential and/or Rodgers starts losing some of his mobility due to age.

Manning has no mobility and is losing some of the zip on his ball, Brady/Brees lack mobility, Luck's efficiency is not where it should be ... there just isn't any better QB out there and it's not even debatable.

 

[Vector]

Bears fan here, so obviously I want nothing else than to see the Packers get stomped, but I just have a gut feeling Rodgers goes off and the Packers win in convincing fashion while reminding everybody that he's still arguably the best QB in the league. Rodgers can make major plays outside the pocket. Peyton Manning couldn't. Watch for Rodgers to pick up at least one KEY 3rd down with his feet that extends a scoring drive. As much as I hate the sonofa#####, he's pretty damn good.

still... arguably...?

If there were a redraft Rodgers would be the landslide 1.01 pick. He has no weakness in his game. His memory and instincts are flawless and he has the best arm in the game. He plays ruthlessly efficient, has underrated mobility, and can thread a needle sideline-to-sideline from 40 yards out. Rodgers will remain the best QB in the game until Luck starts to come into his potential and/or Rodgers starts losing some of his mobility due to age.

Manning has no mobility nor the zip on his ball, Brady's stats plummted without Gronk, Brees does not have as much mobility as Rodgers, Luck's efficiency is not where it should be ... there just isn't any better QB out there.

Actually Manning is the landslide QB1 taken in redraft. If you're talking about "real life" in that all players were made available and all teams redrafted (sounds more fantasy than reality though) he may be, but if it was for just one year then Manning would be there too.

In any case your homerism knows no bounds.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Bears fan here, so obviously I want nothing else than to see the Packers get stomped, but I just have a gut feeling Rodgers goes off and the Packers win in convincing fashion while reminding everybody that he's still arguably the best QB in the league. Rodgers can make major plays outside the pocket. Peyton Manning couldn't. Watch for Rodgers to pick up at least one KEY 3rd down with his feet that extends a scoring drive. As much as I hate the sonofa#####, he's pretty damn good.

still... arguably...?

If there were a redraft Rodgers would be the landslide 1.01 pick. He has no weakness in his game. His memory and instincts are flawless and he has the best arm in the game. He plays ruthlessly efficient, has underrated mobility, and can thread a needle sideline-to-sideline from 40 yards out. Rodgers will remain the best QB in the game until Luck starts to come into his potential and/or Rodgers starts losing some of his mobility due to age.

Manning has no mobility and is losing some of the zip on his ball, Brady/Brees lack mobility, Luck's efficiency is not where it should be ... there just isn't any better QB out there and it's not even debatable.

I would take Russell Wilson if there was a redraft and I was building a franchise. Russell has youth on his side and has won the same amount of rings as Rodgers in just his second year.

Best young QB in the game....no debate.

 

[chinawildman]

Same story every year...

1) ItS goads and incites opposing team's fans with multiple posts predicting a seahawks blowout

2) Opposing team's fans see multiple asinine posts predicting seahawks rout and labels seahawks fans as cocky jerks

3) Seahawks fans take offense to labeling and stereotyping and respond in kind

4) Thread becomes a wasteland of personal insults and "my team's cooler than your team".

The moral of the story is... put ItS on ignore and make this forum a happier place.

 

[biju]

Same story every year...

1) ItS goads and incites opposing team's fans with multiple posts predicting a seahawks blowout

2) Opposing team's fans see multiple asinine posts predicting seahawks rout and labels seahawks fans as cocky jerks

3) Seahawks fans take offense to labeling and stereotyping and respond in kind

4) Thread becomes a wasteland of personal insults and "my team's cooler than your team".

The moral of the story is... put ItS on ignore and make this forum a happier place.

I'd agree with the first two. #3 I honestly don't care about at all. As a fanbase we've been labeled a whole ton of things--my personal favorite is that all Seahawks fans have been fans for two years.

Right now I'm kind of enjoying everyone trying to rile up our fanbase. I find it pretty funny. And if you don't get ITS's shtick by now, shame on you for falling for it.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Same story every year...

1) ItS goads and incites opposing team's fans with multiple posts predicting a seahawks blowout

2) Opposing team's fans see multiple asinine posts predicting seahawks rout and labels seahawks fans as cocky jerks

3) Seahawks fans take offense to labeling and stereotyping and respond in kind

4) Thread becomes a wasteland of personal insults and "my team's cooler than your team".

The moral of the story is... put ItS on ignore and make this forum a happier place.

I'd agree with the first two. #3 I honestly don't care about at all. As a fanbase we've been labeled a whole ton of things--my personal favorite is that all Seahawks fans have been fans for two years.

Right now I'm kind of enjoying everyone trying to rile up our fanbase. I find it pretty funny. And if you don't get ITS's shtick by now, shame on you for falling for it.

Yeah, but if the shoe fits....

 

[sho nuff]

Same story every year...

1) ItS goads and incites opposing team's fans with multiple posts predicting a seahawks blowout

2) Opposing team's fans see multiple asinine posts predicting seahawks rout and labels seahawks fans as cocky jerks

3) Seahawks fans take offense to labeling and stereotyping and respond in kind

4) Thread becomes a wasteland of personal insults and "my team's cooler than your team".

The moral of the story is... put ItS on ignore and make this forum a happier place.

I don't see many people saying anything about other Hawks fans. Just about ITS (and well, another troll that has no real ties to either team but is always around these threads)

 

[Vector]

Same story every year...

1) ItS goads and incites opposing team's fans with multiple posts predicting a seahawks blowout

2) Opposing team's fans see multiple asinine posts predicting seahawks rout and labels seahawks fans as cocky jerks

3) Seahawks fans take offense to labeling and stereotyping and respond in kind

4) Thread becomes a wasteland of personal insults and "my team's cooler than your team".

The moral of the story is... put ItS on ignore and make this forum a happier place.

I don't see many people saying anything about other Hawks fans. Just about ITS (and well, another troll that has no real ties to either team but is always around these threads)

Sho Nuff.... you do know that you are the troll don't you. Any thread I show up in you have to follow me and name call.

Get a life besides hating on me.

 

[sho nuff]

Moth to a flame.

And yeah, Im trolling by coming into a thread about...wait for it...the Packers.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Most interested in how the zebras call this game, after the crazy preseason we just had. We will see if things change and they go back to letting there be contact now that it is the regular season. NFL is under the bright lights with the new rules and we see if the commish and Zebras are on the same page.

Me too. If they want to set the tone for the year, no better test case than this game.

 

[Vector]

So, just to set the record straight and show that sho nuff is the true troll.

I live in Seattle, but evidently I do not have the right to post in a thread about the Seahawks because the Packer thread Nazi deems it a trolling offense.

And even if I did not live in Seattle, what right does he have to dictate who can and cannot post in a thread without being labeled a troll. It is this heavy handed divine right mentality that makes him the single most annoying poster on this board. Usurping even the aforementioned ITS.

Yes, I am a Bear fan. Yes, I live in Seattle, have for 12 years. But growing up in Illinois I still have my loyalties. This does not exempt me from being a Seahawk fan. Unless, of course, they are playing the Bears. But since they are playing the Packers I have a double right to have interest in this game.

Sho nuff doesn't like me because I defend my Bears as strongly as he defends his Packers. And, as we all know, he is delusional about their talent.

(sho) 'nuff said.

 

[sho nuff]

So, just to set the record straight and show that sho nuff is the true troll.

I live in Seattle, but evidently I do not have the right to post in a thread about the Seahawks because the Packer thread Nazi deems it a trolling offense.

And even if I did not live in Seattle, what right does he have to dictate who can and cannot post in a thread without being labeled a troll. It is this heavy handed divine right mentality that makes him the single most annoying poster on this board. Usurping even the aforementioned ITS.

Yes, I am a Bear fan. Yes, I live in Seattle, have for 12 years. But growing up in Illinois I still have my loyalties. This does not exempt me from being a Seahawk fan. Unless, of course, they are playing the Bears. But since they are playing the Packers I have a double right to have interest in this game.

Sho nuff doesn't like me because I defend my Bears as strongly as he defends his Packers. And, as we all know, he is delusional about their talent.

(sho) 'nuff said.

Nobody said you don't have the right to post in here.

But your first post in the thread (like many others of yours in here) are trolling type posts. Even those who don't like me can see that.

You are labeled trolling because of how you have posted. Not because of who you are.

So, glad you are a Seahawks and a Bears fan. Nice to like two teams.

I rarely even see you talk about the Bears actually. Because you are constantly in Packers threads.

I seriously don't care enough about you to "not like you".

And can you post where I am delusional about the Packers or their talent in what I posted as a response to Biju? Or, well, anywhere?

Prove you are not a troll and back up any claim you have made about me...

I won't hold my breath.

And with that...I will end up doing like most others do with you and not even pay attention to your posting.