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***Official*** (H)illary Clinton Health Watch-Pneumonia and California Canceled (1 Viewer)

Very bad optics. They were moving her along like she was shot. I'm starting to feel bad for her. What the hell is Bill doing as a husband. It's insane
You think he is pushing her to do all this? Lately he has been out there doing a lot of double talk, what was OK for him to mumble in '92 seems like ancient history now when it's repeated by others. 

I'm just saying, I thought it was all her doing but you feel maybe he wants to be back there himself?

 
Washington Post isn't buying the pneumonia theory just yet...

When it comes to personal health, Hillary Clinton has long opted for intense privacy, dating back to 1998 when she experienced what she later described as her “scariest moment” with a blood clot in her right leg.

At the time, President Bill Clinton’s White House said little about the first lady’s medical emergency, discreetly treated as an outpatient at Bethesda National Naval Medical Center. Hillary Clinton, who told the White House physician then that she was too busy campaigning for Democrats to be admitted to the hospital, later described the incident as “the most significant health scare I’ve ever had.”

Doctors found a second clot in her legs in 2009, a fact not widely known until her Mount Kisco, N.Y., internist released a letter in July 2015 attesting to her good health as she launched a campaign for the Democratic nomination for the presidency.

Clinton’s third blood clot in 2012 — this time in her skull — was too serious to keep under wraps, since she was serving at the time in a high-profile role as President Obama’s secretary of state. She spent several days in New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University hospital, and her husband later said it took her six months to recover.

Clinton’s privacy about her health has continued even as she enters the final stretch in a run for the presidency, with her Republican opponent Donald Trump suggesting, without specifics, that her health could pose a problem if she is elected.

After nearly collapsing at a 9/11 memorial service in New York on Sunday, Clinton’s doctor revealed that the candidate has pneumonia, which was diagnosed last week and is being treated with antibiotics. The combination of heat and a powerful antibiotic, the doctor said, could explain the candidate’s wobbly steps as she was whisked into a black van.

Now, the mysterious episode in New York has sharpened the focus on the health of the two major party presidential nominees and led to a growing clamor for the release of more complete medical histories. Trump has been criticized for releasing even less health information than Clinton.

“This is the most important job in the world, and we have two old people [running for it],” said David Scheiner, who was Barack Obama’s physician for more than two decades until his election in 2008. “The plane doesn’t work as well at 70 and 68 as when you’re 45 or 50. . . . Bad things happen.”

At 68, Clinton’s discretion about her medical history has made it difficult for voters to assess her complete health picture.

She has deep vein thrombosis, which requires her to take a daily dose of a blood thinner that needs frequent testing. Her personal physician, Lisa Bardack, disclosed last year Clinton’s treatment with the drug Coumadin.

Sunday’s episode illustrates how those closest to Clinton handle news about her health. At first, a Clinton campaign spokesman said Sunday that Clinton “felt overheated” at the 9/11 event. Later, Bardack painted a fuller picture, saying in a statement that Clinton had been diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday and became “overheated and dehydrated” two days later.

Doctors say “heat stress” illnesses ranging from cramping to fainting are relatively common in older adults and not a concern as long as the symptoms are fleeting. And they can certainly be exacerbated by illnesses such as pneumonia.

 
“It’s usually not indicative of broader health issues,” said James Goodwin, chairman of geriatric medicine at the University of Texas Medical Branch.

Clinton’s history with blood thinners does suggest that doctors might want to conduct further testing, doctors told The Washington Post.

“You always have to be worried about internal bleeding,” said Samuel Durso, director of geriatric medicine at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

The 1998 episode came during a fundraiser for Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), Clinton recalled in her memoir “Living History.” Her right foot was swollen. She could barely put on her shoe. At the hospital, tests revealed “a big clot” behind her knee. Clinton briefly took blood thinners and the condition went away.

Clinton in her memoir attributed the clot to her “nonstop flying around the country.” Former vice president Dan Quayle also had deep vein thrombosis from flights.

Little is known about the 2009 clot episode.

A risk factor is sitting on plane flights for longer than six hours, which is one reason business travelers walk up and down the aisle during long trips. The condition, while treatable, can be fatal if the clot moves to the lungs or heart.

Clinton’s 2012 clot turned up during routine testing after a concussion she suffered in a fall after reportedly becoming severely dehydrated with an intestinal infection. Her concussion attracted widespread notice because it caused her to delay her scheduled December 2012 testimony before Congress about the attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, three months earlier.

The clot in Clinton’s brain — known as a transverse sinus venous thrombosis — did not cause a stroke or neurological damage, according to her doctors. Like the other clots, it also resolved itself.

Information about the concussion and clot emerged in dribbles, leading to questions about Clinton’s unexplained absence from her job.

Despite the clot’s disappearance, Clinton’s doctors put her on Coumadin as a precaution. The drug’s generic form, warfarin, was first used as a rat poison before becoming the most widely used blood thinner in the United States.

The drug requires frequent testing to strike the right balance between preventing clots and the risk of excessive bleeding.

Bardack’s letter lists the blood clots and details Clinton’s struggle with concussion syndrome, including double vision.




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Bardack writes that the only regular medications Clinton takes are Coumadin and a common thyroid hormone-replacement pill. The letter notes normal blood pressure, respiratory rate and cholesterol levels.

Scheiner, Obama’s former physician, has insisted that presidential candidates be compelled to provide a detailed medical picture to voters. In an opinion piece in Sunday’s Washington Post, he wrote that Trump, at 70, would be the oldest person to enter the Oval Office, while Clinton, at 68, would be a close second behind Ronald Reagan. And yet both have left lingering questions about the state of their health.

Scheiner said Clinton’s episode in New York is a reminder of how the status quo is lacking when it comes to how the country evaluates the health of potential leaders.

“We should have complete health reports on both of them. The whole process has to be changed,” Scheiner said. “We have to come up with something that’s an objective evaluation of their health.”

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Her campaign is spinning this as pneumonia and she has been taking antibiotics since last week? An entire week on antibiotics? Because those usually work pretty well and effectively. If she was diagnosed today...but they are saying she has had it for a while, that's not real good either. 

Does she expect Americans to go to work when they are sick? That causes others to get sick, she is contributing to the harmful spread of germs. 

 
Looks like it's Harrison 2.0

-Served 31 Days and then died of Pneumonia, caught it ironically in his acceptance speech in a driving cold rain/snow storm. 

 
Washington Post isn't buying the pneumonia theory just yet...

Doctors found a second clot in her legs in 2009, a fact not widely known until her Mount Kisco, N.Y., internist released a letter in July 2015 attesting to her good health as she launched a campaign for the Democratic nomination for the presidency.

Nov 2009 for me. In my right leg and behind my knee.  Hundreds of them. And two in my lungs. 90% blocked. Those went away by Jan 2010.

Clinton’s third blood clot in 2012 — this time in her skull — was too serious to keep under wraps, since she was serving at the time in a high-profile role as President Obama’s secretary of state. She spent several days in New York-Presbyterian/Columbia University hospital, and her husband later said it took her six months to recover.

This is ####### nuts. They wheeled me in at the speed of light when they found out I had DTV and put a filter in so they would not go to my brain and die.

After nearly collapsing at a 9/11 memorial service in New York on Sunday, Clinton’s doctor revealed that the candidate has pneumonia, which was diagnosed last week and is being treated with antibiotics. The combination of heat and a powerful antibiotic, the doctor said, could explain the candidate’s wobbly steps as she was whisked into a black van.

In Feb this year, I had pneumonia. The antibiotic was some wicked ####. Most powerful thing I've ever been on. They said it could easily make me light headed and dizzy and to not drive or even go outside.

She has deep vein thrombosis, which requires her to take a daily dose of a blood thinner that needs frequent testing. Her personal physician, Lisa Bardack, disclosed last year Clinton’s treatment with the drug Coumadin.

I'm on it for life. Most people get off it, but i have a form of clots that doesn't go away ever. I'm totally fine now and will be fine as long as I take the warfarin.  Last month we spent extensive time reevaluating the new drugs out there and whether they might be better for me.

 
Clinton’s history with blood thinners does suggest that doctors might want to conduct further testing, doctors told The Washington Post.

“You always have to be worried about internal bleeding,” said Samuel Durso, director of geriatric medicine at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

Never fully understood this until the testing last month.  This is serious stuff folks. She's hiding this the best she can and she can't fully hide it 100%.  When I'm dehydrated, which happens once or twice a month, I can get light headed very easily.  I have serious doubts she could go four years without a serious issue popping up due to the schedule the job demands. The campaign trail is breaking her down right now.

 
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Did I stumble onto infowars?  What's going on in here?
If you hit Google and then run a search titled Hilary Clinton Health, I assure you every media outlet has at least 3 articles running on it. One reporting it, one making excuses and one imploring her to drop out. 

NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox reported she died I think then was forced to retract their statement. 

 
Breaking news on most networks it seems. 

I have never seen a Pres Nominee get this far into the process and have a major medical issue. 

She left folks in the dark about emails and now it seems the Press feels she is pulling punches on her health. 

-In Mrs Clinton's defense, media are saying things like "We need to know what happened for those 90 minutes inside"...she was resting you morons. What do you think she is going to tell you? It's really not our business what she did for those 90 minutes, it's also up to peeps or citizens if they feel this is good behavior. 

 
Breaking news on most networks it seems. 

I have never seen a Pres Nominee get this far into the process and have a major medical issue. 

She left folks in the dark about emails and now it seems the Press feels she is pulling punches on her health. 

-In Mrs Clinton's defense, media are saying things like "We need to know what happened for those 90 minutes inside"...she was resting you morons. What do you think she is going to tell you? It's really not our business what she did for those 90 minutes, it's also up to peeps or citizens if they feel this is good behavior. 
Is that why she didn't send help to Libya? She was resting, maybe on some blood circulation machine, unconscious, they couldn't get her up. So bizarre. Our next president can't even attend a memorial service w/out needing to be carried away?

 
Is that why she didn't send help to Libya? She was resting, maybe on some blood circulation machine, unconscious, they couldn't get her up. So bizarre. Our next president can't even attend a memorial service w/out needing to be carried away?
These wobbling sessions just seems to be a lot more to it than this. 

 
My mom is 68. If she had pneumonia and similar episodes as Secretary Clinton had recently, I wouldn't let her cook dinner without another visit to the Dr or lots of rest until she's 100%. Unfortunately, the trust for Clinton is so low that a lot of people aren't going to believe whatever it is that they tell us. Hipaa and all that. 

 
My mom is 68. If she had pneumonia and similar episodes as Secretary Clinton had recently, I wouldn't let her cook dinner without another visit to the Dr or lots of rest until she's 100%. Unfortunately, the trust for Clinton is so low that a lot of people aren't going to believe whatever it is that they tell us. Hipaa and all that. 
Also the media, those who follow along her trail for the networks, they were lied to over the weekend, the Clinton camp swore it was related to allergies and then that story changed to walking pneumonia which was diagnosed last Friday.

-Media are saying we don't have enough information...what a joke, of course you don't because the Clinton camp is lying and not telling us the truth or giving us the information. 

-Why are we electing folks pushing 70?

 
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JimmyJabroni said:
If this hadn't been caught on camera I don't believe we'd have ever heard anything about this. I wasn't buying into her being as sick as this...but now, she can't even stand on her own 2 feet on more than one occasion where they had to drag her (months apart). Sad...she should just will get some rest and give it up be the next President of the United States.
I fixed that for you.

 
And people were speculating Trump would dropout 

:lmao:
There have definitely been some weird twists.

Trump was supposed to get challenged at the convention... then it was Trump who wrapped up early and it was Hillary was facing that possibility when she could not close on Sanders until CA.

It was the Dems who were going to have figure out a substitute candidate because Hillary might be indicted. Then it was the GOP who was supposed to be making backup plans and checking procedure for substituting candidates.... and now it's the Dems who supposedly may need to do that (though that hasn't been reported, I'd bet it's been discussed).

 
Contagious pneumonia?  Let's go see Chelsea and the grand baby...  Then pose in a picture with a little girl...  Some pretty great judgement being exhibited by Hillary once again.

 
Contagious pneumonia?  Let's go see Chelsea and the grand baby...  Then pose in a picture with a little girl...  Some pretty great judgement being exhibited by Hillary once again.
I would hazard to guess that Johnson, Stein or even Trump are not that dumb,,,

 
In one day we went from (H)illary is completely fine and you're sexist if you talk about her health. To she has pneumonia and is so courageous for staying on the campaign trail. 

The Dems and the media are a joke. 

 

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