***OFFICIAL Halos vs Yankees ALCS Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

Thought a Yankee fan would start one of these by now but they are known to be quite shy. I'll keep the title updated in your honor, honors.

Intriguing match-up, two very good teams both with solid pitching and hitting. The meat of the Yankees order should be the difference but if the Halos can get to Fatbathia in game 1 or 4, they have a pretty good shot. Been waiting all week to make the call on this one, not getting a feeling either way. Brain says Yanks in 6, let's go with that.

 

[flysack]

I agree Yanks in 6.

I think NY takes the first two in the Bronx, then the Halos make it interesting back in LA. But ultimately, the Yanks take the series.

 

[derek245583]

The weather is gonna be dreadful. That is all I am hearing about lately.

 

[Michael Brown]

I think the Yanks win it in 7. Series shapes up to be awesome, the teams are very evenly matched for the most part. Yanks would seem to have an offensive advantage but it's more that they just have a different kind of offense and not necessarily better. Halos have the defensive edge. But I think the Yanks have a slightly better pen, and home field. They've been ridiculous there this year (duh) and I think if it comes down to a Game 7 that it will be the advantage they need to finally get by these guys.

The only thing that would shock me is if the series is over after 5 games. I think one way or another, it goes a minimum of 6 and it's either team's series.

 

[Reaper]

I think the Yanks win it in 7. Series shapes up to be awesome, the teams are very evenly matched for the most part. Yanks would seem to have an offensive advantage but it's more that they just have a different kind of offense and not necessarily better. Halos have the defensive edge. But I think the Yanks have a slightly better pen, and home field. They've been ridiculous there this year (duh) and I think if it comes down to a Game 7 that it will be the advantage they need to finally get by these guys.The only thing that would shock me is if the series is over after 5 games. I think one way or another, it goes a minimum of 6 and it's either team's series.

Gammons was on Espn this morning saying the weather factor didn't favor anyone....I disagree, and not to make a built-in excuse - I Always HATE bad weather in NFL or MLB unless my team is a huge underdog - I just hate the randomness factor it brings...That said, of course if a day is lost, that hurts the Yankees... But, in general, I think it takes the long ball away a little and it also keeps the crowd a little more quiet...I was at Game 2 in 1996 Vs Atlanta in the upper deck and it was Cold and a little wet and the crowd was depressingly silent all game. Granted, not much happened.... Now add in the difference now with all the celebs and corporate types and I can see I much more reserved crowd as they feeze their fannys off..... Heck, some might not even show.I hope I'm wrong and they jump ahead early and get the crowd going while getting this game in.For the Yankees, Winning Game 1 is pretty big IMO..

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Offshore series prices:

Angels +176

Yankees -196

At better than 8 to 5 odds, I likes the angles here...

 

[Darth Cheney]

Wouldn't surprise me either way. The weather in NY could affect the HF advantage. Plus, in these bad weather games....anything goofy can happen. Yanks are probably the better team....Angels always play the Yanks tough.....

 

[Lehigh98]

Yanks in 5, $208MM is tough to beat.

 

[Michael Brown]

I think the Yanks win it in 7. Series shapes up to be awesome, the teams are very evenly matched for the most part. Yanks would seem to have an offensive advantage but it's more that they just have a different kind of offense and not necessarily better. Halos have the defensive edge. But I think the Yanks have a slightly better pen, and home field. They've been ridiculous there this year (duh) and I think if it comes down to a Game 7 that it will be the advantage they need to finally get by these guys.The only thing that would shock me is if the series is over after 5 games. I think one way or another, it goes a minimum of 6 and it's either team's series.

Gammons was on Espn this morning saying the weather factor didn't favor anyone....I disagree, and not to make a built-in excuse - I Always HATE bad weather in NFL or MLB unless my team is a huge underdog - I just hate the randomness factor it brings...That said, of course if a day is lost, that hurts the Yankees... But, in general, I think it takes the long ball away a little and it also keeps the crowd a little more quiet...I was at Game 2 in 1996 Vs Atlanta in the upper deck and it was Cold and a little wet and the crowd was depressingly silent all game. Granted, not much happened.... Now add in the difference now with all the celebs and corporate types and I can see I much more reserved crowd as they feeze their fannys off..... Heck, some might not even show.I hope I'm wrong and they jump ahead early and get the crowd going while getting this game in.For the Yankees, Winning Game 1 is pretty big IMO..

About the weather: some of the best games I've ever been to have involved rain and a lot of cold (Giambi GS, Leyritz walk-off) and the crowds were insane for them, so I think as long as it's a close game then the fans will be involved.

 

[jobarules]

Both teams are so damn good and evenly matched its hard to pick a winner. Ill say Angels win the series in 7 Either way should be a great series.

 

[jobarules]

As per the weather it seems there is a good chance they will get tonight's game in. Tomorrow is not looking good.

 

[culdeus]

Offshore series prices: Angels +176 Yankees -196 At better than 8 to 5 odds, I likes the angles here...

Yeah. Some value here.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

No Ronan Tynan for the 7th Inning Stretch singing of God Bless America:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_leagu...?urn=mlb,196441

"The trouble started when Tynan, 49, bumped into a real estate agent showing an apartment in his East Side apartment building to a doctor from NYU Medical Center.

"The agent told Tynan, 'Don't worry, they are not Red Sox fans,' according to apartment-hunter Gabrielle Gold-von Simson.

"'I don't care about that, as long as they are not Jewish,' was Tynan's reply.

Ronan, wait

 

[Tremendous Upside]

on the plus side, 7th inning stretch might clock in under 10 minutes tonight

 

[Eephus]

on the plus side, 7th inning stretch might clock in under 10 minutes tonight

I'm betting the over

 

[California]

Angels in 5. I think we lose Game 2 and that's it. Yes, I'm a homer.

 

[RudiStein]

Awesome communication there by Rebar and Baggins.

 

[Reaper]

Awesome communication there by Rebar and Baggins.

I think Arod yelled "noonan"

 

[Kenneth Cosgrove]

Angels in 5. I think we lose Game 2 and that's it. Yes, I'm a homer.

Bang-up start.And starting Joe Saunders in Game 2 means nobody can ever refer to Mike Scioscia as a good manager again.

 

[whoknew]

I wouldn't mind Jeter so much if the announcers would just stop sucking his #### all the time.

 

[jobarules]

arod was safe

 

[jobarules]

These umps are miserable, he was safe at 1B

 

[Reaper]

These umps are miserable, he was safe at 1B

you can tell? I never saw a replay that showed a space? Either way arod was safe and that was a run, lets call it even.

 

[whoknew]

These umps are miserable, he was safe at 1B

I don't know about that. Looked like the ball might have just barely gotten there in time.

 

[jobarules]

These umps are miserable, he was safe at 1B

I don't know about that. Looked like the ball might have just barely gotten there in time.

yep replay made it look alot closer than i thought. good call by the ump my bad

 

[Darth Cheney]

I wouldn't mind Jeter so much if the announcers would just stop sucking his #### all the time.

What,do you want them to move over?

 

[Eephus]

Anaheim is just giving this one away

 

[whoknew]

Lots of mistakes by ANA tonight.

 

[Kenneth Cosgrove]

Hunter's misplay was due to a wicked hop in the OF. He might've caught it if he'd had his head down, but who knows.

Lackey's pick-off throw was bad, though, as was Matsui's pop-up earlier.

Yankees getting Lackey out in the 6th is a big win. They haven't been hammering him, but they've worked his pitch count up and the defense isn't making innings any shorter.

 

[jobarules]

CC is a ####in stud

 

[Kenneth Cosgrove]

Putting Sabathia out there in the 8th, with a 3-run lead and Hughes in the bullpen, and with plans to bring Sabathia back out on short rest, was idiotic. It's continuously stunning how bad MLB managers can be.

 

[jobarules]

Putting Sabathia out there in the 8th, with a 3-run lead and Hughes in the bullpen, and with plans to bring Sabathia back out on short rest, was idiotic. It's continuously stunning how bad MLB managers can be.

I disagree. He was dealing, he had under 100 pitches, and he didnt throw that many pitches in the 8th. Plus its gonna rain all day tomorrow so he might not even be able to go on 3 days rest anymore. You gotta win the games one at a time and I thought it was the right move by Joe.

 

[Capella]

Why on earth is Saunders pitching tomorrow?

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

Nice job, CC!

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Why on earth is Saunders pitching tomorrow?

I was thinking it was because he had some fabulous history vs the Yankees but he has a career 6.28 ERA and 1.57 WHIP against them. He pitched ok against them this year but not great. Maybe he has nude pictures of Mike Scioscia and Bruce Jenner? I got nothin'.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Angels had 3 options for tomorrow; Saunders, Weaver, Kazmir

Weaver's home/road splits are significant, so he gets game 3 at home; makes sense

so then it's between Saunders and Kazmir

I have to think Scioscia is going with a degree of loyalty here pitching Saunders over Kazmir, who has been an Angel for about 45 days

Joe Torre school of pitching matchups

 

[Kenneth Cosgrove]

You gotta win the games one at a time

The argument still holds. Sabathia's a great pitcher, but I'd argue that a fresh Phil Hughes is just as effective, if not moreso, than Sabathia 7 innings in. And if this is true "win the games one at a time", why not let Sabathia come out for the 9th, at 113 pitches? Win the games one at a time, no?The Royals in the mid-80's did an experiment with a four-man rotation. It actually worked really well, as long as the pitch counts were limited to around 100. Once KC started straying from that, their pitchers started getting hurt/lit up. And it may rain, but I wouldn't count on the weather to bail out

 

[Kenneth Cosgrove]

Why on earth is Saunders pitching tomorrow?

I was thinking it was because he had some fabulous history vs the Yankees but he has a career 6.28 ERA and 1.57 WHIP against them. He pitched ok against them this year but not great. Maybe he has nude pictures of Mike Scioscia and Bruce Jenner? I got nothin'.

Saunders shouldn't even be pitching ahead of Santana. This is utter lunacy on the part of the Angels.My guess is that because Saunders (by the grace of jesu) held NY to 2 runs in his last outing, they're giving him the nod. Or they think a lefty pitcher can better protect against Yankee lefties abusing the short porch. I dunno. Weaver's been bad away from home (I always wonder how much this has to do with partying), but Saunders is bad everywhere.This is like taking a girl out on a 2nd date, sharting in her entree, and then walking out to leave her with the bill. I don't know what that means.

 

[Eephus]

Why on earth is Saunders pitching tomorrow?

I was thinking it was because he had some fabulous history vs the Yankees but he has a career 6.28 ERA and 1.57 WHIP against them. He pitched ok against them this year but not great. Maybe he has nude pictures of Mike Scioscia and Bruce Jenner? I got nothin'.

Saunders shouldn't even be pitching ahead of Santana. This is utter lunacy on the part of the Angels.My guess is that because Saunders (by the grace of jesu) held NY to 2 runs in his last outing, they're giving him the nod. Or they think a lefty pitcher can better protect against Yankee lefties abusing the short porch. I dunno. Weaver's been bad away from home (I always wonder how much this has to do with partying), but Saunders is bad everywhere.This is like taking a girl out on a 2nd date, sharting in her entree, and then walking out to leave her with the bill. I don't know what that means.

Managers have been playing hunches since the days of John McGraw. I thought Manuel was nuts last year to give big starts to another soft-tosser named Joe but Blanton came up with two quality starts in the playoffs.If Saunders gets shelled, Scioscia is wide open for criticism and the Anaheims got back home in a hole. But I can see some logic behind putting him ahead of Weaver.

 

[cobalt_27]

CC is a ####in stud

 

[jobarules]

You gotta win the games one at a time

The argument still holds. Sabathia's a great pitcher, but I'd argue that a fresh Phil Hughes is just as effective, if not moreso, than Sabathia 7 innings in. And if this is true "win the games one at a time", why not let Sabathia come out for the 9th, at 113 pitches? Win the games one at a time, no?The Royals in the mid-80's did an experiment with a four-man rotation. It actually worked really well, as long as the pitch counts were limited to around 100. Once KC started straying from that, their pitchers started getting hurt/lit up. And it may rain, but I wouldn't count on the weather to bail out

Oh come on now. HUGE difference between bringing out Hughes and the greatest closer of all time.

 

[Kenneth Cosgrove]

You gotta win the games one at a time

The argument still holds. Sabathia's a great pitcher, but I'd argue that a fresh Phil Hughes is just as effective, if not moreso, than Sabathia 7 innings in. And if this is true "win the games one at a time", why not let Sabathia come out for the 9th, at 113 pitches? Win the games one at a time, no?The Royals in the mid-80's did an experiment with a four-man rotation. It actually worked really well, as long as the pitch counts were limited to around 100. Once KC started straying from that, their pitchers started getting hurt/lit up. And it may rain, but I wouldn't count on the weather to bail out

Oh come on now. HUGE difference between bringing out Hughes and the greatest closer of all time.

CC was dealing, like you said. I can't imagine Hughes would've had much problem with Aybar, Figgins and Abreu.

 

[Michael Brown]

Spectator index on weather.com for tonight's game is a 1. That's the lowest rating possible. I was there last night and was extremely bundled up with multiple layers and I was still sorta cold with the wind blowing right in our faces the whole game. I can't wait for weather that's going to be far more uncomfortable than that.

Anybody think they'll just call this one early?

 

[cobalt_27]

Spectator index on weather.com for tonight's game is a 1. That's the lowest rating possible. I was there last night and was extremely bundled up with multiple layers and I was still sorta cold with the wind blowing right in our faces the whole game. I can't wait for weather that's going to be far more uncomfortable than that.Anybody think they'll just call this one early?

Good chance they get started tonight and have to suspend it. Stupid Selig.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Spectator index on weather.com for tonight's game is a 1. That's the lowest rating possible. I was there last night and was extremely bundled up with multiple layers and I was still sorta cold with the wind blowing right in our faces the whole game. I can't wait for weather that's going to be far more uncomfortable than that.Anybody think they'll just call this one early?

I seriously doubt itForecast for tomorrow is worse than tonight's isThe hour by hour forecast on weather.com doesn't show light rain showing up until 10 or soI think they'll do everything possible to get tonight's game in and get out of the NE quick

 

[jobarules]

You gotta win the games one at a time

The argument still holds. Sabathia's a great pitcher, but I'd argue that a fresh Phil Hughes is just as effective, if not moreso, than Sabathia 7 innings in. And if this is true "win the games one at a time", why not let Sabathia come out for the 9th, at 113 pitches? Win the games one at a time, no?The Royals in the mid-80's did an experiment with a four-man rotation. It actually worked really well, as long as the pitch counts were limited to around 100. Once KC started straying from that, their pitchers started getting hurt/lit up. And it may rain, but I wouldn't count on the weather to bail out

Oh come on now. HUGE difference between bringing out Hughes and the greatest closer of all time.

CC was dealing, like you said. I can't imagine Hughes would've had much problem with Aybar, Figgins and Abreu.

Youre probably right about Hughes but I liked CCs chance a little better. Im not saying you dont have a point cuz you do. I think you can make the argument either way but calling Girardi a moron doesnt make sense IMO cuz I could see both points. It wasnt an obvious decision like you seemed to make it. BTW I think Girardi is a below average manager and dont necessarily disagree with the moron sentiment just not on this occasion.

 

[jobarules]

not sure why they didnt move todays gametime up to 1pm. Most weather people were saying yesterday theyd be able to get the game in no problem if gametime was at 1.

 

[Tremendous Upside]

not sure why they didnt move todays gametime up to 1pm. Most weather people were saying yesterday theyd be able to get the game in no problem if gametime was at 1.

TV, I assumeFOX pays a #### ton of money for the television rights to this, they want it in prime time, not 1 PM ET, 10 AM PT

 

[jobarules]

not sure why they didnt move todays gametime up to 1pm. Most weather people were saying yesterday theyd be able to get the game in no problem if gametime was at 1.

TV, I assumeFOX pays a #### ton of money for the television rights to this, they want it in prime time, not 1 PM ET, 10 AM PT

But wouldnt 1PM today been a whole lot better for FOX than 4PM tomorrow?the point is moot now anyway.

 

[whoknew]

Wow - that was lucky for the Yanks.