***Official*** Holy Grail Redux WW Game Thread (2 Viewers)

[Evilgrin 72]

My guess is that Witz self-protected, but I'll leave it to him to reveal if he wants.

Good thing about that wham is that if for some reason we whiff on today's lynch, there's a chance at another WHAM bringing it to D12.

 

[Hodor]

Curious to know who Witz protected also before I cast my vote

Yeah don't be throwing any votes until we hear from Witz

 

[Dan Lambskin]

My guess is that Witz self-protected, but I'll leave it to him to reveal if he wants.

Good thing about that wham is that if for some reason we whiff on today's lynch, there's a chance at another WHAM bringing it to D12.

No issue with Witz revealing then right? BG knows who he targeted so wouldn't target same guy twice, right?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I take that back...BG would know that person couldn't be protected again so would be able to take them out next night?

Not really sure how the WHAM works I guess...hopefully Witz can clear up

Just want to make sure there's no disadvantage to him telling us

 

[Hodor]

I take that back...BG would know that person couldn't be protected again so would be able to take them out next night?

Not really sure how the WHAM works I guess...hopefully Witz can clear up

Just want to make sure there's no disadvantage to him telling us

The seems like forced acting new imo

 

[Evilgrin 72]

My guess is that Witz self-protected, but I'll leave it to him to reveal if he wants.

Good thing about that wham is that if for some reason we whiff on today's lynch, there's a chance at another WHAM bringing it to D12.

No issue with Witz revealing then right? BG knows who he targeted so wouldn't target same guy twice, right?

It's up to him.

I'm out, will check back in later tonight.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I take that back...BG would know that person couldn't be protected again so would be able to take them out next night?

Not really sure how the WHAM works I guess...hopefully Witz can clear up

Just want to make sure there's no disadvantage to him telling us

The seems like forced acting new imo

Sorry I didn't see the roles explained in the rule set

 

[Witz]

Hey everyone - just checking in for a second. Based on the wham, this confirms myself and the person I protected last night.

This leaves two folks to chose from. I don't think there is any harm in revealing who I protected since with the wham, I'm free to protect that person again tonight (assuming we don't lynch the remaining BG today). I'll share more once I'm back online.

Just getting dinner ready for the family but will be back tonight (yes, yes, I know I said that on Friday night but I mean it this time). Hopefully we can wrap this up tomorrow.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Hey everyone - just checking in for a second. Based on the wham, this confirms myself and the person I protected last night.

This leaves two folks to chose from. I don't think there is any harm in revealing who I protected since with the wham, I'm free to protect that person again tonight (assuming we don't lynch the remaining BG today). I'll share more once I'm back online.

Just getting dinner ready for the family but will be back tonight (yes, yes, I know I said that on Friday night but I mean it this time). Hopefully we can wrap this up tomorrow.

The BG knows who he targeted, so I don't see any reason not to say it. I'm hoping it isn't me.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

 

[Hodor]

Hey everyone - just checking in for a second. Based on the wham, this confirms myself and the person I protected last night.

This leaves two folks to chose from. I don't think there is any harm in revealing who I protected since with the wham, I'm free to protect that person again tonight (assuming we don't lynch the remaining BG today). I'll share more once I'm back online.

Just getting dinner ready for the family but will be back tonight (yes, yes, I know I said that on Friday night but I mean it this time). Hopefully we can wrap this up tomorrow.

The BG knows who he targeted, so I don't see any reason not to say it. I'm hoping it isn't me.

I hope its me

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Hey everyone - just checking in for a second. Based on the wham, this confirms myself and the person I protected last night.

This leaves two folks to chose from. I don't think there is any harm in revealing who I protected since with the wham, I'm free to protect that person again tonight (assuming we don't lynch the remaining BG today). I'll share more once I'm back online.

Just getting dinner ready for the family but will be back tonight (yes, yes, I know I said that on Friday night but I mean it this time). Hopefully we can wrap this up tomorrow.

What the hell are you making them, Coq au Vin and Coquille St. Jacques?

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Checking out for the night

Going to put my trust in Witz and hope he has an easy decision

PProxy Witz

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Checking out for the night

Going to put my trust in Witz and hope he has an easy decision

PProxy Witz

He's not going to have an easy decision no matter what. The only two people who will KNOW who the BG is are the two people that weren't protected. 1 GG and 1 BG.

 

[Witz]

Hey everyone - just checking in for a second. Based on the wham, this confirms myself and the person I protected last night.

This leaves two folks to chose from. I don't think there is any harm in revealing who I protected since with the wham, I'm free to protect that person again tonight (assuming we don't lynch the remaining BG today). I'll share more once I'm back online.

Just getting dinner ready for the family but will be back tonight (yes, yes, I know I said that on Friday night but I mean it this time). Hopefully we can wrap this up tomorrow.

What the hell are you making them, Coq au Vin and Coquille St. Jacques?

Fell asleep putting the kids to sleep.

Back online now.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Please tell me you protected someone other than me (or yourself)

 

[Witz]

Please tell me you protected someone other than me (or yourself)

Just getting a clarification on something before I reveal who I protected.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Understood. If you are a standard angel though then yeah, you can re-protect the same person coming off a wham.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I've got maybe 10 more minutes before I have to hit the sack.

 

[Witz]

As soon as I get confirmation, I'll share with the group and we can discuss.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

All right. I understand prudence here. Tomorrow, we ride.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If you protected either Hodor or Dan, the other one is the last BG. If you protected me, then we have a decision to make.

 

[Witz]

In that case, we have a decision to make.

Last night I protected EG. Therefore, the last BG is either Hodor or Dan.

 

[Hodor]

In that case, we have a decision to make.

Last night I protected EG. Therefore, the last BG is either Hodor or Dan.

Well then, that makes this an extremely easy decision for me.

pvote dan

 

[Hodor]

I'm gg all the way. Dan has played a confusing but hell of a bg game for a new player imo.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

In that case, we have a decision to make.

Last night I protected EG. Therefore, the last BG is either Hodor or Dan.

Damn it! But thank you!

 

[Evilgrin 72]

Witz, what do you think? I'm leaning Hodor but if we get this wrong, you're going to have a 50/50 chance of saving our bacon tonight.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If it is Hodor, we HAVE to win this. If he's the BG, it was game over if I hadn't timed that unvote so well yesterday. I can see the green room going off on me as I was running Mike Tyson shtick yesterday reveling in the "successful" trap.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

That aside, I've had a gut feeling that it is Hodor for the last couple of days.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

It's Hodor

If you vote for me we will lose

I'll leave my proxy with Witz. If he doesn't believe me he can vote to lynch me

Technically you guys would still have a 50/50 shot on getting the WHAM correct if you're wrong and then lynch the other one of us tomorrow, but you can vote Hodor and end the game now

 

[Hodor]

That aside, I've had a gut feeling that it is Hodor for the last couple of days.

Its not, don't you f me at the finish line

 

[Dan Lambskin]

If there's anything else you guys want to know from me ask away.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I want to go back and look at some stuff, but it's too hard by phone. After I get to work and get some things done. Hopefully it's not too busy of a morning.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I went back and looked at all the lynches, focusing on the BG lynched on days 4-7. There is almost nothing to separate Hodor and Dan. Going with my gut.

vote hodor

 

[Witz]

I was leaning Hodor as well, but want to go back and look at the Dan self-voting thing first.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

If there's anything else you guys want to know from me ask away.

You were off Loan Sharks D5 and Hagmania D7 when each was lynched. Why?

 

[Hodor]

I went back and looked at all the lynches, focusing on the BG lynched on days 4-7. There is almost nothing to separate Hodor and Dan. Going with my gut.

vote hodor

sigh, FAIL

 

[Hodor]

I was leaning Hodor as well, but want to go back and look at the Dan self-voting thing first.

don't lean on me if you want this to be a GG victory

 

[Hodor]

I think I played one of my best games as far as BG hunting goes. I don't bus throw imo. Look at my work it should speak for itself

 

[Dan Lambskin]

If there's anything else you guys want to know from me ask away.

You were off Loan Sharks D5 and Hagmania D7 when each was lynched. Why?

Gimmie a minute to go back and look

 

[Witz]

I'm guessing I'm being kept around as an inexperienced GG so that I can be easily coerced into lynching the wrong guy if we get into a "Kendall"

Do we only have 1 shot at this? If not If you guys think it makes it easier to figure out who the BG is go ahead and lynch me

I'm leaning McGarnicle...if we're wrong I assume the BG kills off confirmed GGRP Witz and I get to choose between Hodor and EG for the win (or they incorrectly lynch me and the BGs Win)

I'm open to other ideas though

...and like I said I'm willing to sacrifice myself for the greater good if you guys Would rather go that route....is anyone else willing to do that?

I'd certainly like to make it to the end, but the GG winning is more important than me being left standing at the end

So if there's any doubt on my status I'm willing to die to help narrow it down

Pvote Dan Lambskin

someone's gotta get lynched unless you guys think there's some smoking gun that incriminates you, EG or McG

 

[Witz]

What's DOSing?

I think we all believe Witz GG at this point, right? If we got duped by reading too much into game roles then I can live with that

I know I'm good so I've gotta choose one of the remaining 3

At this point I'd rank them most likely BG

McG

Hodor

EG

So I figure we either choose from those 3 now or you vote me off and probably still end up having to choose between those 3, right? I guess BG could kill someone else off and let Witz decide the game too, but at some point someone in the group of 3 has to string the other one up

Dan - are you a BG?

No. Boring old PBJ. I'd certainly give you some good rabbit schtick if I was the BG.

There's no quit in me. I'd never go out like this if I was a BG.

If I'm the last BG I'm doing everything I can to win

If I'm just one of 3 remaining PJB and I can help the GG win then sure, why not? I'm fine with getting the win as a corpse if that's what it takes

McG nade proves nothing...nothing gives more GG cred than axing a BG

"I'm A GG...trust me" doesn't really give me a ton of confidence either

 

[Evilgrin 72]

I was leaning Hodor as well, but want to go back and look at the Dan self-voting thing first.

He self-voted, proxied to you overnight. He's going out of his way to say "whatever helps the village." Hodor is adamant about not being lynched.

Either could be a BG trying to influence endgame. I can't find anything definitive to point me one way or the other (though in fairness, the board makes it tricky and the lack of time I have to dedicate to it trickier still) so I don't have much left to go with other than instinct.

 

[Witz]

end game pressure makes people do strange things, don't think I have ever seen a self vote though except when BGs give up

If we lose, I don't want it to be because we voted along with a noob putting himself up as a sacrificial lamb which is a strategy that makes ZERO sense. If he wants to now come out and OBGS, different story.

Unless there's 2 BG worst case is you get another crack at it...

Aside from Dan being new to this game, is he known as pretty intelligent around the FFA/SP? Would he be capable of pulling a stunt like this as a bg to create doubt?

I think all you'll find is posts about gambling, drinking, TV, whores and schtick

I think it's most likely McG or Hodor

True but you'd look pretty bad...I'd lean Hodor at this point

Hopefully Hodor has some good OBGS ready

Let me try something.

 

[Witz]

- Dan's comments around the Icon death and Foos/Loan run-ups were fishy along with his possible HC

- EG's cut and paste possible HC

- McG's long winded response as to why he decided to throw the grenade at Icon as opposed to Loan/Foos who were both getting run up

Hodor - nothing. Nothing stands out one way or the other.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist

I'm ready with a Hodor vote but afraid to post it in case someone else posts same time as me

Want to hear from him one last time

Here's the thing - if I go back and wanted to point out something suspicious on the four of you, I can point out something on Dan, McG and EG. I don't know of anything that has stood out about Hodor.

I don't have the advantage of knowing how often an "obvious" gg turned out be bad and tricked everyone all the way to the end. That's why I've sincerely asked if it's plausible and if so, would Hodor be a guy who could pull it off?

I got the impression he's one of the best

Pvote hodor

So what's going on? We think we trapped McG?

Punvote

I doubt a BG pulls his vote like EG did. Willing to go McG or Hodor and if we're wrong go with the other one tomorrow

If someone sees it another way let me know

 

[Witz]

Question: once BG are dead can they no longer post at the special BG board? Just want to know if they could continue to coach a noob player or not?

Ok that's what I thought

Pvote McG

He seems kind of lost at this point

If there were 2 BG he would have hammered me...pretty much seals up a BG win unless you botch the night kill

If there were 2 BG he would have hammered me...pretty much seals up a BG win unless you botch the night kill

Well in that scenario I guess not cause then he'd be the lone BG

disregard, faulty logic...

If there were 2 BG he would have hammered me...pretty much seals up a BG win unless you botch the night kill

What?

Was in response to EG saying he was hoping we weren't both bad. I was erroneously thinking that if there was a 2nd BG (EG or Hodor) McG would have dropped me since it would be 2-2 with a night kill chance

Then right after I posted it I realize that if I'm the 2nd BG in that scenario it doesn't make sense

Total brain fart

 

[Witz]

Clueless. Village got played. Great job Hodor, I tip my cap.

How did BF taste?

Kindly #### off.

Well I'm pretty sure that means Witz is a GG

So...which one of you other 2 is the BG?

Grail was taken out of play when Foos died right? Just want to make sure it's not an option

Curious to know who Witz protected also before I cast my vote

 

[Witz]

My guess is that Witz self-protected, but I'll leave it to him to reveal if he wants.

Good thing about that wham is that if for some reason we whiff on today's lynch, there's a chance at another WHAM bringing it to D12.

No issue with Witz revealing then right? BG knows who he targeted so wouldn't target same guy twice, right?

I take that back...BG would know that person couldn't be protected again so would be able to take them out next night?

Not really sure how the WHAM works I guess...hopefully Witz can clear up

Just want to make sure there's no disadvantage to him telling us

I take that back...BG would know that person couldn't be protected again so would be able to take them out next night?

Not really sure how the WHAM works I guess...hopefully Witz can clear up

Just want to make sure there's no disadvantage to him telling us

The seems like forced acting new imo

Sorry I didn't see the roles explained in the rule set

Checking out for the night

Going to put my trust in Witz and hope he has an easy decision

PProxy Witz

It's Hodor

If you vote for me we will lose

I'll leave my proxy with Witz. If he doesn't believe me he can vote to lynch me

Technically you guys would still have a 50/50 shot on getting the WHAM correct if you're wrong and then lynch the other one of us tomorrow, but you can vote Hodor and end the game now

If there's anything else you guys want to know from me ask away.

 

[Witz]

ok - sorry - wanted to see Dan's exchanges from back when McG was with us.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

Sorry on phone but D5 by the time I got caught up loan was at a hight total and I was waiting on s claim

Then Belljr had that post about Norm throwing the nade (unknown at the time) so I got suspicious and put a vote on him