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*** Official Lost Season 6 *** (1 Viewer)

If the powder is an impassable barrier for smokey, and smokey is such a threat, why couldn't they play Qix with the island, systematically blocking off sections from smokey until they trap it in a corner?
How you would do this? They generally don't know where Smokey is at any given time. To "play Qix" with something you have to be able to beat it to a spot, and if you don't know the location of something that is faster than you, you can't do it. The only way it would work would be to isolate an entire section of the island that you know to be safe and then slowly move the sand line outward until smokey was trapped, and that seems wholly impractical given the size of the island.
You apparently haven't played Qix before. You don't need to know where smokey is. You just need to know where it is not, and then secure that spot. Yes it would be time consuming. But don't you think its time well-spent considering the thing can kill you?
 
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I'll give you the sub CGI graphics from last season. That was pretty awful. But I didn't see anything wrong with the underwater scene last night. I think some of you ##### just because someone else #####es.

 
If the powder is an impassable barrier for smokey, and smokey is such a threat, why couldn't they play Qix with the island, systematically blocking off sections from smokey until they trap it in a corner?
How you would do this? They generally don't know where Smokey is at any given time. To "play Qix" with something you have to be able to beat it to a spot, and if you don't know the location of something that is faster than you, you can't do it. The only way it would work would be to isolate an entire section of the island that you know to be safe and then slowly move the sand line outward until smokey was trapped, and that seems wholly impractical given the size of the island.
You apparently haven't played Qix before. You don't need to know where smokey is. You just need to know where it is not, and then secure that spot. Yes it would be time consuming. But don't you think its time well-spent considering the thing can kill you?
How dare you, sir! I am a proud child of the '80s.I'm saying that the size of the island (not to mention its terrain) makes it totally impractical, even over a time frame of years and years. Especially when you consider that you can't just walk off the area, you'd have to carefully pour the sand/ashes to ensure that there were no gaps.

Also, couldn't a storm blow away/wash away the sand? How does that work?

 
If the powder is an impassable barrier for smokey, and smokey is such a threat, why couldn't they play Qix with the island, systematically blocking off sections from smokey until they trap it in a corner?
How you would do this? They generally don't know where Smokey is at any given time. To "play Qix" with something you have to be able to beat it to a spot, and if you don't know the location of something that is faster than you, you can't do it. The only way it would work would be to isolate an entire section of the island that you know to be safe and then slowly move the sand line outward until smokey was trapped, and that seems wholly impractical given the size of the island.
You apparently haven't played Qix before. You don't need to know where smokey is. You just need to know where it is not, and then secure that spot. Yes it would be time consuming. But don't you think its time well-spent considering the thing can kill you?
How dare you, sir! I am a proud child of the '80s.I'm saying that the size of the island (not to mention its terrain) makes it totally impractical, even over a time frame of years and years. Especially when you consider that you can't just walk off the area, you'd have to carefully pour the sand/ashes to ensure that there were no gaps.

Also, couldn't a storm blow away/wash away the sand? How does that work?
Plus he could just walk in the surf around ash on the beach.
 
I'll give you the sub CGI graphics from last season. That was pretty awful. But I didn't see anything wrong with the underwater scene last night. I think some of you ##### just because someone else #####es.
Really?? Heh... When that underwater scene came up I seriously thought they were zooming in on one of THESE THINGS for a second.
 
I'll give you the sub CGI graphics from last season. That was pretty awful. But I didn't see anything wrong with the underwater scene last night. I think some of you ##### just because someone else #####es.
Really?http://www.hulu.com/watch/125502/lost-la-x-part-1

5:50.

I have a friend in the vfx industry who knows a guy who's worked on LOST, and he says that they have very little turnaround time for shots like this, it's not like Avatar where they can spend a year on one shot or something.

But still, this is pretty awful.

 
With all of the timeshifting that the survivors did when the wheel was off it's axis what happened to the temple group? Did they jump around as well or were they more or less stationary? Also, the temple group seemed to realize that Jacob being dead was a big deal and they plans in place to defend their territory (like this sort of thing had happened before). Also, what were the fireworks for? Seemed to be to let other that were outside of the compound know that something "bad" had happened and I would guess to tell them to get back to the temple as quickly as possible. Seems like they are opening up a lot of question with so little time left to cover the existing questions and handle these new issues. I am very interested in how this all ties together in another 14 episodes or so.

 
If the powder is an impassable barrier for smokey, and smokey is such a threat, why couldn't they play Qix with the island, systematically blocking off sections from smokey until they trap it in a corner?
How you would do this? They generally don't know where Smokey is at any given time. To "play Qix" with something you have to be able to beat it to a spot, and if you don't know the location of something that is faster than you, you can't do it. The only way it would work would be to isolate an entire section of the island that you know to be safe and then slowly move the sand line outward until smokey was trapped, and that seems wholly impractical given the size of the island.
You apparently haven't played Qix before. You don't need to know where smokey is. You just need to know where it is not, and then secure that spot. Yes it would be time consuming. But don't you think its time well-spent considering the thing can kill you?
How dare you, sir! I am a proud child of the '80s.I'm saying that the size of the island (not to mention its terrain) makes it totally impractical, even over a time frame of years and years. Especially when you consider that you can't just walk off the area, you'd have to carefully pour the sand/ashes to ensure that there were no gaps.

Also, couldn't a storm blow away/wash away the sand? How does that work?
They should just coat some hula hoops with ash and wear them all the time, suck it smokey.
 
If smokey can't cross the ash, why not find out where smokey is and encircle him. Wouldn't he then be trapped in a circle?
Can he as the MIB or Locke though cross ash? When he transformed from Locke into Smokey, why did he disappear and come back through the door? Where does he go to transform? I dont think its simple as, we can play qix with ash or just encircle him etc.
 
If smokey can't cross the ash, why not find out where smokey is and encircle him. Wouldn't he then be trapped in a circle?
If he can turn between evil Locke and smokey within seconds, couldn't he just turn back into Locke and then walk over the ash? It would seem when he is in human form he doesn't have an issue with the ash.
 
Couple thoughts:

In regards to the water Sayid was immersed into. The translator was shocked the water wasn't clear, not sure what that was about, but could this be the same water Richard was possibly dipped into therefore giving him the power of not aging?

I have a feeling the series ends with Locke going to see Jack about getting a second opinion on his spine. And at that time they now have figured out why they know each other as both timelines have connected.

 
The one thing holding me back from thinking MIB/smokey has been controlling all the dead people/sightings in past seasons is the loop when Locke saw Horace building the cabin. He just kept going in a continuous loop like it was broken or something. Doesn't seem to mesh with the other occurrences.

 
I have a feeling the series ends with Locke going to see Jack about getting a second opinion on his spine. And at that time they now have figured out why they know each other as both timelines have connected.
Nah. Writers tend to adapt their show to account for the most popular characters and actors who win awards. There are two characters that fit this mold - John Locke and Benjamin Linus. I have to think that, whatever the final resolution of the series will be, they will center around those two. We know the writers specifically recruited Terry O'Quinn, so he will be a big part of the series resolution. Michael Emerson has been winning awards for this show, so they will write his character into the final resolution too, even if it wasn't originally intended.Everyone else is ancillary.The most obvious way to center the series finale on them is to play off the moment Linus murdered Locke. Maybe Locke eventually has to kill Linus or something.There's a lot of backstory behind Jack Shepard, but the reality is these two characters now overshadow Jack, so he will probably get moved into the background.
 
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According to Lostpedia, Maggie Grace was supposed to appear in the episode but her schedule couldn't allow it so the scene was re-written to explain why Shannon wasn't on the plane. Based on that, it doesn't appear we should read anything into Shannon's non-appearance or consider it to have the same type of relevance the other differences in the new flight may have.

 
At this point I can't really tell if what I'm watching is good or not.
This is great...kind of how I'm feeling too. I am highly entertained though. I'm hoping this is the type of show that blows you away at the end and you have to rewatch the whole series again to fully get it. Sort of like how you had to watch Matrix a couple of times.
 
Ok i am not as big a Lostie as most so I might sound dumb.

The MIB could be anyone he wants to portray? If so why Locke?

cuz he was dead? not sure yet

What Timeline is the Ben, MIB and Richard in? Are they together on the same island as Jack and crew?

same timeline

What happened to Sun, i forgot what happened to her

shes with Ben, MIB, Richard, and Frank
I think he chose to portray Locke to push Ben over the edge and kill Jacob. Who else could have done it?I think Jacob has taken over Sayid's body and only said, "What happened?" to blend in and not let everyone know.

Overall an interesting episode but so much left unanswered.

I do think the MIB is trying to get back into the temple which is his "home".

 
If there are two of everyone, then what happens/happened to Juliet? She died on the island, but is her current day self still around or is she dead in both universes? Were only people on the plane the ones with two universes now? Are there only one version of people that started on the island when the plane crashed?
There could be another Juliet somewhere.
There's a lot more than two of everyone, we may be only see two of the paralells but this storyline now implies there are infinite realities.
I'm not sure it implies multiples but it does open up the possibility
 
Another item, last season the book Jacob was reading was titled something like "Everything Converges" - possibly implying all timelines will come crashing together to make one. Which would tie into possibly The Constant Part 2.

 
Does anybody understand MIB's loophole? I don't get what the loophole was.
I thought the loophole was that he could not kill Jacob but that someone else could and maybe that it had to be one of Jacob's followers.
 
wtf is MIB? you guys watching a Will Smith movie in here?
MIB = Man in Black the guy that was talking to Jacob in the last episode of season 5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpNJyP23e_0
thanks.so weird. I don't remember that scene at all, but I don't think I've ever missed an episode.
You're welcome! It came on at the very begining of the episode so you could have just missed it.
 
Also weird thing my friend picked up on:

The marshal who was bringing Kate back to L.A. received an injury to the part of his body as he did on 815.

On 815: Luggage falls from the overhead and smacks him in the forehead.

At LAX: Kate slams his forehead against the bathroom sink.

 
Also weird thing my friend picked up on:The marshal who was bringing Kate back to L.A. received an injury to the part of his body as he did on 815.On 815: Luggage falls from the overhead and smacks him in the forehead.At LAX: Kate slams his forehead against the bathroom sink.
The way I took it is that there still was turbulence on the flight both go arounds. The plane didn't crash because Desmond wasn't in the hatch missing the input of the numbers.
 
Neo said:
At this point I can't really tell if what I'm watching is good or not.
This is great...kind of how I'm feeling too. I am highly entertained though. I'm hoping this is the type of show that blows you away at the end and you have to rewatch the whole series again to fully get it. Sort of like how you had to watch Matrix a couple of times.
:blackdot: In terms of acting, dialouge and pacing, the last two seasons have fallen off enormously. In a lot of cases embarrassingly. But the mysteries and questions were so tantalizing in the first four seasons that I think at this point everybody overlooks it--sooooo much is going on at once and we're all so desperate to figure this whole ####### thing out.But yeah, I think the writers bit off more than they could chew and have been forced to cut a ton of corners and really stretch plausability to account for the mysteries they created. I still enjoy it, and because the first four seasons were so good and the characters so well developed, I still care about them, even if they're all shells of their former selves.
 
I have a feeling the series ends with Locke going to see Jack about getting a second opinion on his spine. And at that time they now have figured out why they know each other as both timelines have connected.
Nah. Writers tend to adapt their show to account for the most popular characters and actors who win awards. There are two characters that fit this mold - John Locke and Benjamin Linus. I have to think that, whatever the final resolution of the series will be, they will center around those two. We know the writers specifically recruited Terry O'Quinn, so he will be a big part of the series resolution. Michael Emerson has been winning awards for this show, so they will write his character into the final resolution too, even if it wasn't originally intended.Everyone else is ancillary.The most obvious way to center the series finale on them is to play off the moment Linus murdered Locke. Maybe Locke eventually has to kill Linus or something.There's a lot of backstory behind Jack Shepard, but the reality is these two characters now overshadow Jack, so he will probably get moved into the background.
Not a chance Jack gets moved into the background. None. I think the writers are full of BS a lot of the times they say they planned for how things are turning out, but one thing I know they planned on was having Jack be, if not the entire center of it all in the end, at least just as important as any other character. Supposedly the last scene has already been filmed, and Jack (as well as Walt, so I've heard) is in it. He might not be as popular as Locke or Ben have become, but he was the core of the show up until last season and largely responsible for how good it was.
 
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God I can't believe I'm about to type this sentence, but with this show anything goes I guess.

Do you think Jacob and the "Nemesis" (just as gay as a name as Man In Black, btw) were occupying other bodies before Locke and the crew got there? Like they aren't necessarily humans, but some kind of spirit form? And the bodies that we saw them in as Jacob and Nemesis are just two other people that previously had made their way to the island?

 
God I can't believe I'm about to type this sentence, but with this show anything goes I guess.Do you think Jacob and the "Nemesis" (just as gay as a name as Man In Black, btw) were occupying other bodies before Locke and the crew got there? Like they aren't necessarily humans, but some kind of spirit form? And the bodies that we saw them in as Jacob and Nemesis are just two other people that previously had made their way to the island?
I think it's fairly safe to assume that yes, they are entities that have been there for a long time, and that how we have seen them so far is not necessarily their real form.
 
God I can't believe I'm about to type this sentence, but with this show anything goes I guess.Do you think Jacob and the "Nemesis" (just as gay as a name as Man In Black, btw) were occupying other bodies before Locke and the crew got there? Like they aren't necessarily humans, but some kind of spirit form? And the bodies that we saw them in as Jacob and Nemesis are just two other people that previously had made their way to the island?
Obviously, n00b
 
God I can't believe I'm about to type this sentence, but with this show anything goes I guess.Do you think Jacob and the "Nemesis" (just as gay as a name as Man In Black, btw) were occupying other bodies before Locke and the crew got there? Like they aren't necessarily humans, but some kind of spirit form? And the bodies that we saw them in as Jacob and Nemesis are just two other people that previously had made their way to the island?
My best guess is that they're representatives of God/Satan. Angels, I guess. Hence Norwood's comment about wanting to go home.Of course, that would probably mean that free will = Satan, and predestination = God, non?
 
God I can't believe I'm about to type this sentence, but with this show anything goes I guess.

Do you think Jacob and the "Nemesis" (just as gay as a name as Man In Black, btw) were occupying other bodies before Locke and the crew got there? Like they aren't necessarily humans, but some kind of spirit form? And the bodies that we saw them in as Jacob and Nemesis are just two other people that previously had made their way to the island?
My best guess is that they're representatives of God/Satan. Angels, I guess. Hence Norwood's comment about wanting to go home.Of course, that would probably mean that free will = Satan, and predestination = God, non?
i like this
 

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