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[Sack-Religious.]

I've been saying since last season that there's been some sort of scientific experiment gone wrong on the "island." Either that or it's some sort of top secret "black ops" sort of research facility. The more I watch the show, the more I'm sticking to my guns.Good point on the "routine" Beer 30

 

[Mailman055]

I watched the show again last night and I don't think this has been mentioned due to all the "serious" talk but what about this gem when Hurley was telling Jack about the numbers (paraphrased):Hurley : What is that thing where Doctors are supposed to make you feel good?Jack : Bedside manner.Hurley : Yeah, well, yours sucks dude.

 

[Lehigh98]

I watched the show again last night and I don't think this has been mentioned due to all the "serious" talk but what about this gem when Hurley was telling Jack about the numbers (paraphrased):

Hurley : What is that thing where Doctors are supposed to make you feel good?

Jack : Bedside manner.

Hurley : Yeah, well, yours sucks dude.

:honda:

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Also, referencing back to last year's "Comic book" discussions.When Walt saw the polar bear in the comic book, the polar bear made it's appearance soon afterwards. Also in the comic book, when the "heroes" get inside the locked "hatch" thing, the alien guy that was locked inside the hatch had some form of disease and was dying was he not? Wouldn't this fall in line with the quarantine bit on the actual show, as well as the injections?

 

[Buckychudd]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

Locke hasn't been "healed", he's a clone of the real Locke who was never was injured in the first place.

The quote from the radio "No we're the survivors of flight 815", I took this to be the survivors from other parts of the plane.....but I think it's actually the real survivors instead of the clones.

I'm sure there are many other examples.

Edit - Just thought of another one.....Sarah wasn't miraculously healed, she was cloned and replaced. The real Sarah is in a wheelchair somewhere.

 

[XNOUGHT]

Also, referencing back to last year's "Comic book" discussions.

When Walt saw the polar bear in the comic book, the polar bear made it's appearance soon afterwards. Also in the comic book, when the "heroes" get inside the locked "hatch" thing, the alien guy that was locked inside the hatch had some form of disease and was dying was he not?

Wouldn't this fall in line with the quarantine bit on the actual show, as well as the injections?

Tremendous. Excellent work.

 

[Capella]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

Locke hasn't been "healed", he's a clone of the real Locke who was never was injured in the first place.

The quote from the radio "No we're the survivors of flight 815", I took this to be the survivors from other parts of the plane.....but I think it's actually the real survivors instead of the clones.

I'm sure there are many other examples.

Edit - Just thought of another one.....Sarah wasn't miraculously healed, she was cloned and replaced.  The real Sarah is in a wheelchair somewhere.

 

[Smoo]

Also in the comic book, when the "heroes" get inside the locked "hatch" thing, the alien guy that was locked inside the hatch had some form of disease and was dying was he not?

Really? Was this ever discussed on the show, or is this one of those things you had to freeze frame or understand spanish to get?

 

[Tick]

What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?

"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."

Thanks. I have a feeling Desmond is some kind of medical/disease researcher. The mainframes recording data. The quarantine sign indicating the outside of the hatch. The serum he injected into himself as some type of antibody/vaccine.

I've been thinking about this, and I think you are right.Desmond is a medical researcher of some kind.

I'm leaning this way myself. For those of you theorizing he was only on the island for a short time (3-4 months) consider how non-chalant he was with his morning routine, injection, etc. The feeling I got was he has been there for a while, he was much too comfortable in his routine to have only been there for a short time.

Having moved recently and switched jobs, I can say that it takes me about three days to get comfortable with a new routine. By two weeks I'm already getting to work unable to remember anything that happened that morning because I'm so entrenched in the routine.

 

[Tick]

Also in the comic book, when the "heroes" get inside the locked "hatch" thing, the alien guy that was locked inside the hatch had some form of disease and was dying was he not?

Really? Was this ever discussed on the show, or is this one of those things you had to freeze frame or understand spanish to get?

The latter.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

I watched Ep2.1 again last night and noticed a couple of things I missed. Jack works for St.Sebastian Hospital. Sebastian is considered a protector against the plague, not sure of the significance.I tried to look at Jacks hospital badge to see if there was a date on it anywhere. Nothing I could make out.When Jack goes into the hatch there are shoes setting there as if someone set them there. Who's are they?

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Also in the comic book, when the "heroes" get inside the locked "hatch" thing, the alien guy that was locked inside the hatch had some form of disease and was dying was he not?

Really? Was this ever discussed on the show, or is this one of those things you had to freeze frame or understand spanish to get?

As Tick stated, somone was able to get screen caps of the comic book and translate the spanish dialogue. IRRC, the comic book may also actually be a real comic book, not something created by the show, but I could be wrong on that count.

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Also in the comic book, when the "heroes" get inside the locked "hatch" thing, the alien guy that was locked inside the hatch had some form of disease and was dying was he not?

Really? Was this ever discussed on the show, or is this one of those things you had to freeze frame or understand spanish to get?

As Tick stated, somone was able to get screen caps of the comic book and translate the spanish dialogue. IRRC, the comic book may also actually be a real comic book, not something created by the show, but I could be wrong on that count.

 

[EZD222]

Also in the comic book, when the "heroes" get inside the locked "hatch" thing, the alien guy that was locked inside the hatch had some form of disease and was dying was he not?

Really? Was this ever discussed on the show, or is this one of those things you had to freeze frame or understand spanish to get?

As Tick stated, somone was able to get screen caps of the comic book and translate the spanish dialogue. IRRC, the comic book may also actually be a real comic book, not something created by the show, but I could be wrong on that count.

Here ya gohttp://www.lostlinks2.net/comic/comic1.htm

 

[porkins]

When Jack goes into the hatch there are shoes setting there as if someone set them there. Who's are they?

Not sure why, but I assumed they were Locke's.Very strange that they pointed them out in the show.

 

[PC Load Letter]

I watched Ep2.1 again last night and noticed a couple of things I missed.

Jack works for St.Sebastian Hospital. Sebastian is considered a protector against the plague, not sure of the significance.

I tried to look at Jacks hospital badge to see if there was a date on it anywhere. Nothing I could make out.

When Jack goes into the hatch there are shoes setting there as if someone set them there. Who's are they?

I'm pretty sure they're Kate's shoes that she took off a dead body in one of the first episodes.

 

[oso diablo]

I thought the first episode of Season 2 was the best one of the entire series thus far. Excellent TV.But maybe that was just because we've been Lost-celibate for so long.

 

[caabeel]

I watched Ep2.1 again last night and noticed a couple of things I missed.

Jack works for St.Sebastian Hospital. Sebastian is considered a protector against the plague, not sure of the significance.

I tried to look at Jacks hospital badge to see if there was a date on it anywhere. Nothing I could make out.

When Jack goes into the hatch there are shoes setting there as if someone set them there. Who's are they?

Just wondering, did you watch episode 2 again three times?

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Is someone keeping track of what we "know" up to this point. And/or another list or track of the possible theories which have to be proven or disproven?

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Is someone keeping track of what we "know" up to this point. And/or another list or track of the possible theories which have to be proven or disproven?

I think there was a list in the season 1 thread of at least "what we know," but I'm far too lazy to try to find it.I don't think there was anything for theories proven/disproven.

Although, if you're volunteering to start one, I know I'd appreciate your efforts.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Is someone keeping track of what we "know" up to this point.  And/or another list or track of the possible theories which have to be proven or disproven?

I think there was a list in the season 1 thread of at least "what we know," but I'm far too lazy to try to find it.I don't think there was anything for theories proven/disproven.

Although, if you're volunteering to start one, I know I'd appreciate your efforts.

If I had the time I would. I was asking because my wife is hooked on the show but she is one of those people that needs answers to everything so I'm trying to get involved with her to help her out.

 

[apalmer]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

Locke hasn't been "healed", he's a clone of the real Locke who was never was injured in the first place.

The quote from the radio "No we're the survivors of flight 815", I took this to be the survivors from other parts of the plane.....but I think it's actually the real survivors instead of the clones.

I'm sure there are many other examples.

Edit - Just thought of another one.....Sarah wasn't miraculously healed, she was cloned and replaced.  The real Sarah is in a wheelchair somewhere.

#1 (at least) doesn't work:

The water was in a squirt bottle, and being an intelligent medical guy, Jack never let it touch his lips, he just squirted water into his mouth.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

Locke hasn't been "healed", he's a clone of the real Locke who was never was injured in the first place.

The quote from the radio "No we're the survivors of flight 815", I took this to be the survivors from other parts of the plane.....but I think it's actually the real survivors instead of the clones.

I'm sure there are many other examples.

Edit - Just thought of another one.....Sarah wasn't miraculously healed, she was cloned and replaced.  The real Sarah is in a wheelchair somewhere.

#1 (at least) doesn't work:

The water was in a squirt bottle, and being an intelligent medical guy, Jack never let it touch his lips, he just squirted water into his mouth.

But........ to continue the spoiler (why is this a spoiler again?)..........he was sweating a lot and touched it, so there is a chance

 

[BGP]

What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?

"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."

Thanks. I have a feeling Desmond is some kind of medical/disease researcher. The mainframes recording data. The quarantine sign indicating the outside of the hatch. The serum he injected into himself as some type of antibody/vaccine.

I've been thinking about this, and I think you are right.Desmond is a medical researcher of some kind.

No I haven't read any spoilers.The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years. The computer system is too old. He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly. I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode. Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray. Couldn't be older than his late 30s. I highly doubt he is dying his hair. So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there.

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

 

[PC Load Letter]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

 

[Buckychudd]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

Locke hasn't been "healed", he's a clone of the real Locke who was never was injured in the first place.

The quote from the radio "No we're the survivors of flight 815", I took this to be the survivors from other parts of the plane.....but I think it's actually the real survivors instead of the clones.

I'm sure there are many other examples.

Edit - Just thought of another one.....Sarah wasn't miraculously healed, she was cloned and replaced.  The real Sarah is in a wheelchair somewhere.

#1 (at least) doesn't work:

The water was in a squirt bottle, and being an intelligent medical guy, Jack never let it touch his lips, he just squirted water into his mouth.

But........ to continue the spoiler (why is this a spoiler again?)..........he was sweating a lot and touched it, so there is a chance

It's a spoiler because the theory is mainly from the leaked sources of information, the script, the clip, etc.I'll have to think more about if #1 works or not.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

I watched Ep2.1 again last night and noticed a couple of things I missed. 

Jack works for St.Sebastian Hospital.  Sebastian is considered a protector against the plague, not sure of the significance.

I tried to look at Jacks hospital badge to see if there was a date on it anywhere. Nothing I could make out.

When Jack goes into the hatch there are shoes setting there as if someone set them there.  Who's are they?

Just wondering, did you watch episode 2 again three times?

Just twice . I did replay several parts over and over. The Shannon/Walt scence, I could not tell what the whispers said but the last one said "shannon" and she looks over and see's Walt.

There is also another scence with Kate/Jack, just before Kate says she's going to the hatch and she said something inaudible. No clue there either.

Jacks lips never touched the bottle.

 

[Buckychudd]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago".

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

Locke hasn't been "healed", he's a clone of the real Locke who was never was injured in the first place.

The quote from the radio "No we're the survivors of flight 815", I took this to be the survivors from other parts of the plane.....but I think it's actually the real survivors instead of the clones.

I'm sure there are many other examples.

Edit - Just thought of another one.....Sarah wasn't miraculously healed, she was cloned and replaced.  The real Sarah is in a wheelchair somewhere.

#1 (at least) doesn't work:

The water was in a squirt bottle, and being an intelligent medical guy, Jack never let it touch his lips, he just squirted water into his mouth.

But........ to continue the spoiler (why is this a spoiler again?)..........he was sweating a lot and touched it, so there is a chance

It's a spoiler because the theory is mainly from the leaked sources of information, the script, the clip, etc.I'll have to think more about if #1 works or not.

Sorry Bucky, I find the whole "clone theory" a bit unbelieveable

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago".

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

Unless the guy in the hatch is a twin of Desmond. NB - I do not subscribe to this theory.I still think the "hatch" has been there since the 70's (1973 is my guess, based on Danielle being there 16 years and the possibility that someone else was there 16 years before that, making it 1973), and that Desmond in his "race around the world" somehow ended up there. There didn't appear to be so much vegetation as there was dirt around the hatch and given that the hatch was near the base of an incline it's not unreasonable to believe that the torrential rains washed soil down the hill which came to rest on the hatch, thus concealing most of it.

 

[Zapato]

What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?

"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."

Thanks. I have a feeling Desmond is some kind of medical/disease researcher. The mainframes recording data. The quarantine sign indicating the outside of the hatch. The serum he injected into himself as some type of antibody/vaccine.

I've been thinking about this, and I think you are right.Desmond is a medical researcher of some kind.

No I haven't read any spoilers.The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years. The computer system is too old. He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly. I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode. Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray. Couldn't be older than his late 30s. I highly doubt he is dying his hair. So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there.

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

Some people listen to vinyl records as a matter of preference. Doesn't mean much, IMO.

 

[BGP]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago".

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

I have a theory as to why that is. I posted it a while back but blanked it out. You have to highlight it to read my idea. I have not read any spoilers tho.

 

[Verbal Kint]

What was Desmond's exact quote about almost being a doctor?

"What do you know about sprains?""I was almost a doctor once."

"Small world."

Thanks. I have a feeling Desmond is some kind of medical/disease researcher. The mainframes recording data. The quarantine sign indicating the outside of the hatch. The serum he injected into himself as some type of antibody/vaccine.

I've been thinking about this, and I think you are right.Desmond is a medical researcher of some kind.

No I haven't read any spoilers.The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years. The computer system is too old. He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly. I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode. Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray. Couldn't be older than his late 30s. I highly doubt he is dying his hair. So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there.

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

She met him 2 years before they were married. Has it been determined how much time elapsed from their marrige to the plane crash?

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". 

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

No, it was more than 2 years between the accident and wedding party. Everything from the wedding party to the crash has not been revealed as far as time is concerned.ETA-It looks like they went out of their way to make Jack look a lot younger.

Also, in the ER they say Sarah is in her late 20's

 

[PC Load Letter]

She met him 2 years before they were married. Has it been determined how much time elapsed from their marrige to the plane crash?

Crap, you're right. I can't imagine it being much longer though. Damn you. This is going to revive all those Sarah's cure = Locke's injury posts.

 

[Buckychudd]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". 

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

Unless the guy in the hatch is a twin of Desmond. NB - I do not subscribe to this theory.I still think the "hatch" has been there since the 70's (1973 is my guess, based on Danielle being there 16 years and the possibility that someone else was there 16 years before that, making it 1973), and that Desmond in his "race around the world" somehow ended up there. There didn't appear to be so much vegetation as there was dirt around the hatch and given that the hatch was near the base of an incline it's not unreasonable to believe that the torrential rains washed soil down the hill which came to rest on the hatch, thus concealing most of it.

Not a twin exactly....

 

[Buckychudd]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". 

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

I have a theory as to why that is. I posted it a while back but blanked it out. You have to highlight it to read my idea. I have not read any spoilers tho.

Went back and read it.....it's close to what we are theorizing, but missing a big piece.

 

[JerseyToughGuys]

I originally thought maybe the guy in the hatch (possibly the same "Desmond") was somehow "trapped" there but realized this doen't work because why would he then an elaborate setup (mirrors, scopes, ect.) and weapons to protect it.If someone blew the hatch freeing him, he would not have snapped to attention, thrown on a uniform and grabbed a weapon.He is there protecting the computers which broadcast the numbers I assume. Why the numbers are being broadcast, why they are on the outside of the hatch and why they are intertwined with peoples' lives is the bigger question (let alone how the Others and Walt tie into the numbers).

 

[Brewdude]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

I'm a couple pages behind, so forgive me if this has been addressed.First, I don't see these as spoilers...these are theories, so I'm not going to white out my response. A spoiler is a piece of info that has a reasonable chance of being true, not just something we think may happen. If people don't want to hear theories, why are they reading this?

I watched Jack drink from the bottle and he never touched the bottle to his lips--he squirted the water into his mouth. Only his hands touched the bottle. I'm no scientist, but can you extract DNA from sweat? I thought saliva and blood were the best sources.

 

[Buckychudd]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". 

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

No, it was more than 2 years between the accident and wedding party. Everything from the wedding party to the crash has not been revealed as far as time is concerned.

Fully explainable if there is more than one Desmond.....might even mean there are lots and lots of Desmonds. Doesn't matter when it occured if he can be in more than one place at the same time.

 

[Buckychudd]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

I'm a couple pages behind, so forgive me if this has been addressed.First, I don't see these as spoilers...these are theories, so I'm not going to white out my response. A spoiler is a piece of info that has a reasonable chance of being true, not just something we think may happen. If people don't want to hear theories, why are they reading this?

I watched Jack drink from the bottle and he never touched the bottle to his lips--he squirted the water into his mouth. Only his hands touched the bottle. I'm no scientist, but can you extract DNA from sweat? I thought saliva and blood were the best sources.

I posted it as a spoiler because it's a huge leap to get to this theory without the "extra" material. But the cat is out of the bag now, so.....

 

[Paper Lions]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". 

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

No, it was more than 2 years between the accident and wedding party. Everything from the wedding party to the crash has not been revealed as far as time is concerned.

Fully explainable if there is more than one Desmond.....might even mean there are lots and lots of Desmonds. Doesn't matter when it occured if he can be in more than one place at the same time.

One very minor thing I noticed that I'll add. At the end of the episode, Jack looks over at Desmond and says "you" or whatever he says. The writers, I think, were careful in that Desmond never says anything back or shows any sign that he recognizes Jack. Now I think the writers would do this even if it is the same "Desmond" to leave a cliffhanger for message board speculation, but the door was at least left open for it to be a different person/clone/twin/whatever.

 

[Brewdude]

Ok, some potential spoilers here so I'll white them out.

The clone theory is dead on.....

When Desmond gave Jack the drink, he wasn't just giving him a drink he was taking a DNA sample to clone him.  We will see Desmond's interactions with the other survivors as well.....each time he will have some way of gathering a DNA sample.

I'm a couple pages behind, so forgive me if this has been addressed.First, I don't see these as spoilers...these are theories, so I'm not going to white out my response. A spoiler is a piece of info that has a reasonable chance of being true, not just something we think may happen. If people don't want to hear theories, why are they reading this?

I watched Jack drink from the bottle and he never touched the bottle to his lips--he squirted the water into his mouth. Only his hands touched the bottle. I'm no scientist, but can you extract DNA from sweat? I thought saliva and blood were the best sources.

I posted it as a spoiler because it's a huge leap to get to this theory without the "extra" material. But the cat is out of the bag now, so.....

Cloning was a theory mentioned in the first thread...it's been floating around out there, but no real reason to delve further into it.

 

[caabeel]

The confusing thing about the guy living in the dome is that he clearly is not in direct physical contact with the outside world and has not been for at least 20 years. The computer system is too old. He's replaying old vinyl records repeatedly. I'd date the technology in there to at least 1985.

But we saw him when he stepped out right at the end of the episode. Not one hair in his flowing mane was gray. Couldn't be older than his late 30s. I highly doubt he is dying his hair. So he was no older than a teenager when he first was there.

This brings up the possibility that a parent/mentor set up that lab, died or disappeared, leaving him in charge.

I still play my old video games sometimes....and cassette tapes and it's 2005....

 

[Incogneto]

C'mon people...you really think there is a clone theory? I find it poposterous, and something that Abrams would NEVER do. The dude is Desmond, and my guess is that he has been there for only a couple of years.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". 

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

No, it was more than 2 years between the accident and wedding party. Everything from the wedding party to the crash has not been revealed as far as time is concerned.

Fully explainable if there is more than one Desmond.....might even mean there are lots and lots of Desmonds. Doesn't matter when it occured if he can be in more than one place at the same time.

This cloning theory is a serious reach and I'm not buying it. If you look at Desmond in the Stadium and Desmond in the Hatch he has a scar on right side of his bottom lip. This is the same person and not a clone. Locke keeps the fact that he was disabled a secret, why would a clone do this? Why would Kates clone keep running from the police or Hurleys clone freak out about the numbers? Like I said, I'm not buying the "cloning theory".

 

[Paper Lions]

C'mon people...you really think there is a clone theory? I find it poposterous, and something that Abrams would NEVER do. The dude is Desmond, and my guess is that he has been there for only a couple of years.

No, I don't think Desmond is a clone. Was just pointing out that end scene because I noticed it.Here's my guess: same Desmond, he's been there longer, can get in/out of the thing, and his meeting with Jack in the stadium was not random. Why Jack, I dunno yet.

 

[skillz]

heard on the radio that the producers try to make sure that if there is a black rock in any scene that there is also a white rock in the same scene...

Didn't the Adam and Eve corpses also have a pouch with a black and white rock inside? So there has to be some significance to the black rock/white rock angle. At some point I bet they find the "white rock" on the island.

 

[Buckychudd]

Hey BGP, the problem is we've placed the Hospital (and Stadium) scenes at around 2 years ago, because when we first met Sarah in a previous Jack flashback, she toasts him for fixing her "a little over 2 years ago". 

Unless he took a trip to the states (which is possible), he hasn't been down there for more than 2 years.

There is another possibility.....some of the spoilers we've been discussing.

No, it was more than 2 years between the accident and wedding party. Everything from the wedding party to the crash has not been revealed as far as time is concerned.

Fully explainable if there is more than one Desmond.....might even mean there are lots and lots of Desmonds. Doesn't matter when it occured if he can be in more than one place at the same time.

This cloning theory is a serious reach and I'm not buying it. If you look at Desmond in the Stadium and Desmond in the Hatch he has a scar on right side of his bottom lip. This is the same person and not a clone. Locke keeps the fact that he was disabled a secret, why would a clone do this? Why would Kates clone keep running from the police or Hurleys clone freak out about the numbers? Like I said, I'm not buying the "cloning theory".

I can't explain the scar, I didn't freeze frame the episode to check for differences.They don't know they are clones, they have implanted memories. Locke doesn't know why he can walk so he attributes it to a miracle.....he doesn't tell anyone because they'll think he's crazy. The memories aren't implanted perfectly hence Hurley's number thing, and the visions of people, and the flashbacks.

 

[Paper Lions]

Didn't the Adam and Eve corpses also have a pouch with a black and white rock inside?

Yes, they did.