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**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (1 Viewer)
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jplvr
Footballguy
We must have seen a different girl on the boat then because the one I saw looked old as hell. Also, the woman on the boat seemed to have similar features as the Degroot? chick in the film (blonde).Anyway, re-watching the episode for the 3rd time, something just struck me. Someone pointed out earlier that it was strange that Desmond recounted his and Jack's conversation almost verbatim although it seems it's been a few years since it happened.
Could it be that he is part of it? I know that it was talked about earlier after the first episode, but not since then really. He says that Kelvin saw him land on the island, but since then he has supposedly lived totally in the bunker because he's got to type the numbers every 2 hours or so. How was Kelvin free to explore the island while Desmond is a prisoner?
If Desmond doesn't turn up before the end of season 2, it'll be a little tough to get me off of this line of thinking.
Yankee23Fan
Fair Tax!
That was actually an Outer Limits episode. 4 people from the 4 super powers o the time were placed in armegeddon chambers and had to enter doosday codes at certain intervals or the world would be destoyed. IT was a last line of defense against an alien invasion. I think the episode ended with the aliens controlling the world but only being able to find 3 of the 4 chambers.the guy in the 4th chamber didn't have contact with anyone for awhile, thought the world was ending and kept letting the countdown get closer to 0, and finally let it past zero - and then there was a doulb secret probation countdown after that.
Basically the episode ended with the aliens tricking the guy into keep entering the code until they could find him.
I don't know why I remembered any of that.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Great, it's Kim from '24'.I'm sure Jack Bauer will show up screaming into his cell phone, waving his gun around to save all of them.
Here's a pic (not a great one, but the way) that I found elsewhere. This concerns the Degroots and the "others" on the boat that took Walt.
Degroots/Others?
Degroots/Others?
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
No it doesn't.... The guy who said "We're taking the boy" is long time white trash portrayer MC Gainey, who stands a towering 6'2" tall. That DeGroot was a short stocky looking POS.Linkage: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/
They look NOTHING alike.
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
I don't know how this pertains, or if it pertains at all - but I'm watching last night's episode again on TIVO and:
....when Desmond was grabbing the vaccines and flipping them into his bag, a book is shown (and usually in movies, they do this type of stuff on purpose, as it pertains to something later in the film)....
The title: The Third Policemen
I just did a search at Barnes and Noble, and here you go: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearc...56478214X&itm=1
The Third Policeman is Flann O'Brien's brilliantly dark comic novel about the nature of time, death, and existence. Told by a narrator who has committed a botched robbery and brutal murder, the novel follows him and his adventures in a two-dimensional police station where, through the theories of the scientist/philosopher de Selby, he is introduced to "Atomic Theory" and its relation to bicycles, the existence of eternity (which turns out to be just down the road), and de Selby's view that the earth is not round but "sausage-shaped." With the help of his newly found soul named "Joe," he grapples with the riddles and contradictions that three eccentric policeman present to him. The last of O'Brien's novels to be published, The Third Policeman joins O'Brien's other fiction (At Swim-Two-Birds, The Poor Mouth, The Hard Life, The Best of Myles, The Dalkey Archive) to ensure his place, along with James Joyce and Samuel Beckett, as one of Ireland's great comic geniuses.
One shortcoming to all of this? The book was published in 1999, and supposedly Desmond has been down there since prior to that, correct?
....when Desmond was grabbing the vaccines and flipping them into his bag, a book is shown (and usually in movies, they do this type of stuff on purpose, as it pertains to something later in the film)....
The title: The Third Policemen
I just did a search at Barnes and Noble, and here you go: http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearc...56478214X&itm=1
The Third Policeman is Flann O'Brien's brilliantly dark comic novel about the nature of time, death, and existence. Told by a narrator who has committed a botched robbery and brutal murder, the novel follows him and his adventures in a two-dimensional police station where, through the theories of the scientist/philosopher de Selby, he is introduced to "Atomic Theory" and its relation to bicycles, the existence of eternity (which turns out to be just down the road), and de Selby's view that the earth is not round but "sausage-shaped." With the help of his newly found soul named "Joe," he grapples with the riddles and contradictions that three eccentric policeman present to him. The last of O'Brien's novels to be published, The Third Policeman joins O'Brien's other fiction (At Swim-Two-Birds, The Poor Mouth, The Hard Life, The Best of Myles, The Dalkey Archive) to ensure his place, along with James Joyce and Samuel Beckett, as one of Ireland's great comic geniuses.
One shortcoming to all of this? The book was published in 1999, and supposedly Desmond has been down there since prior to that, correct?
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
Cool.... I never saw the article....This shoots down my theory on the book being recent:Speculation on The Third Policeman's cameo already has boosted sales. After the Tribune article appeared, Dalkey sold 8,000 copies in two days, says Post.O'Brien, a pseudonym for Brian O'Nolan, finished writing the book in 1940, but it wasn't published until 1967, a year after his death. In two reissue printings during the past six years, the book sold 15,000 copies.
jplvr
Footballguy
I'm not saying it's concrete, but it isn't implausible either. We're going to see a lot of the guy portraying the guy from the Others. Better to have him be the guy you want instead of dressing up a young guy, as pictured in the film, to play one of the central bad characters.Also, if you go back and listen to Helen on the phone, it sounds nothing like Katie Segal. It's a TV series. Close to looking or sounding the same sometimes has to be enough.
Honestly though, I never said I'd actually bet money on it. It's a longshot, but there have been much dumber things posted on here.
Again, anything is possible, but the scientist guy was a portly guy LINK who looks nothing like the Others boat guy LINK, so either it was the worst casting mistake in the world or they aren't the same guy. Heck they would have been better off slapping a beard on Michael's lawyer, who is another actor people have seen but don't know his name LINK, unfortunately there is no picture, but he was the Hollywood guy in True Romance whose body guards had the shoot out with the FBI (or DEA?).
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
We're kindred spirits... I don't have time to read all the posts on this thread, nor did I read either of your's. I've been a long time Jack Bauer basher too....
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
Since I originally brought this up yesterday (with regards to the bearded guy that took Walt being the Degroot guy) Link in the links provided all I see is 2 guys with beards. It's not completely out of the realm of possibility that a guy living on an island for 20+ years drops a few pounds. It wouldn't be the first time a show used an older and different actor to play a non-central character. All I see is a guy who's a little skinnier, with a longer and more grey beard.
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Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
My thoughts:
Buckychudd
Footballguy
I posted about the same thing 12 hours after you.....
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
Don't sweat it dude. Thsi thread isn't multiplying at the same rate it was after Episode 1, but things are still moving pretty fast.I also posted a few pages back a more detailed debrief on the Third Policeman, if you feel like going back.
While I agree with you on the blurry blonde girl picture (see my post above), this is still fun and it is because the show makes you think about everything. It has crossed the line between TV show and cultural phenomenon, which I think is really cool.Have fun and feel free to come back and be ridiculed!
Not bad use of my login! Anyway, Grid and I are also entitled to say that we don't agree with you as well. I hope you guys don't think I am being an ###, not my intention, but I definitely will post when I agree or disagree. I also, put a CYA "Anything is possible" or "Possibly" before I respectfully disagree.Can't we all just get along?
Maybe jplvr was right about me? Lots of us agree with you on this one. The Polar Bears in the Orientation, the shark with the logo and the fact that the Orientation said that this was station 3 of 6 and there were 6 experiment types mentioned.I still disagree on the Other on the boat being Mr. Degroot, but it wouldn't surprise me if they were DHARMA workers or part of their experiments.
PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
I didn't go back and listen, but I knew the voices were different.What if there are two "Helens"? I use quotes, because maybe the phone girl really was a phone sex/date line operator. Maybe Locke was obsessed with losing the real Helen, he asked the girl to let him call her "Helen". You know... like... "What are you wearing?" "What do you want me to be wearing?" "What's your name?""What do you want my name to be?""Helen"IIRC, Locke bought her a ticket to Australia and she said something along the lines of him still being a "customer" and that she couldn't go.Just a thought.Or she could just be a clone!
(HULK)
(Smash)
http://www.thehansofoundation.org/dharma.html
The Hanso Foundation website was updated sometime last night. So far, I've found the Swan video, which the link takes you to directly.
The Hanso Foundation website was updated sometime last night. So far, I've found the Swan video, which the link takes you to directly.
Buckychudd
Footballguy
Hmmmm
Sack-Religious.
Footballguy
Video doesn't work for me. Synopsis?
Dude, have you watched it recently? When they replayed the finale before this season's premier, I stopped it to see who she was. She's not old...it was a young girl. She looked a little like a homeless person, but she was clearly young...20's max.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Jumbo sized version of the video
The asian guys symbol, looks to me, like a horse that is rearing up on its two back legs. Its really tough to make out though.
The asian guys symbol, looks to me, like a horse that is rearing up on its two back legs. Its really tough to make out though.
PC Load Letter
Irregardless.
I watched it 3 times on Weds night and the thing that is the logo is obscured by the word DHARMA across it. So that horizontalish line through it, isn't a part of the animal, it's just the company name. But I agree, it did look a little different than the Swan/DHARMA logo. :
shuke
Black Ice Skeptic
I thought the Swan name/logo speficifally referred to the initiative being discussed in the film only.I watched it 3 times on Weds night and the thing that is the logo is obscured by the word DHARMA across it. So that horizontalish line through it, isn't a part of the animal, it's just the company name. But I agree, it did look a little different than the Swan/DHARMA logo. :
John Maddens Lunchbox
Footballguy
Seriously guys, just sit back, watch and enjoy the show.All this speculating leads to a bunch of dead ends. You'll be wrong about most things and maybe get 1 or 2 things right.It has me more hooked than any show since Friends at it's peak , but the constant teasing that this show does reminds me of being 15 years old again.
, but the constant teasing that this show does reminds me of being 15 years old again.
(HULK)
(Smash)
The Swan is the logo for the hatch site experiment with elctromagnetism.There are different logos. For example, the shark from Episode Two had a logo on it, but not the swan logo, it was a different one. The asian guy had a logo that was not the Swan as well, but its too hard for me to tell what it was on a computer. If some Tivo'd it in HD, they might be able to tell what it is.I thought the Swan name/logo speficifally referred to the initiative being discussed in the film only.I watched it 3 times on Weds night and the thing that is the logo is obscured by the word DHARMA across it. So that horizontalish line through it, isn't a part of the animal, it's just the company name. But I agree, it did look a little different than the Swan/DHARMA logo. :
