**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (2 Viewers)

[stbugs]

Also interesting was AL's comment to Mr Ecko: "I liked you better when you didn't talk".....

Crazy thought but what if Mr. Ecko was a part of the Others or the Boat Crew? Has he said he was on the plane?

I think you're on the wrong track, mainly because

The are pictures of him from next week's episode coming out of the ocean with the other tailies, right after the crash

Not to spoil anything, but agreed we will find out next week.As to the Entertainment Weekly opinion (not a spoiler but the writers opinion) that not everyone in the tail-enders group that we have seen is a good guy, I kind of agree. I think we definitely need to watch carefully if all of the folks we have seen are definitively from the plane.

While the tail-enders have obviously been attacked (based on the preview) by the Others, they may have also been infiltrated by an Ethan-like person. It makes sense that the Others saw/heard the plane crash and sent out some scouts like Ethan to blend in at first and come up with a plan of attack. Ethan didn't call out a full-fledged attack because there were more people and what seemed like better defense (guns/knives from Locke/cave) than the tail-enders who seemed to have no supplies/defense. Again, the Others (making the leap about the boat folks) obviously knew about the raft getting launched as they were looking for it, but since Ethan got shot and killed, they probably didn't want to try and attack the fuselage survivors directly.

It will be interesting to see if all the tail-enders we just met are from the plane. So far, we know Anna and Bernard are and next week (or from the pictures ) we should know more.

 

[stbugs]

So no one able to verify the shadowy figures yet?

Anyone know if they are re-airing it this weekend?

I checked and they are not re-running it. They are showing Old School.My wife has me record Martha Stewart and I have a Dish DVR (single tuner), so this is really crimping my style because they have not been re-running shows so that I can record them.

 

[Ramblin' Irish]

Also interesting was AL's comment to Mr Ecko: "I liked you better when you didn't talk".....

Could he have been a mute before the crash?

Does anyone else notice that Mr. Ecko seems to have some sort of knowledge about the island similar to Locke?Could he be the Yin to Locke's Yang?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Mr. Ecko also had some sort of disability or handicap prior to coming to the island.

Also, at some point in the old thread there was a discussion about white/black objects throughout the series. That for every white object there was a corresponding black object.

Could bringing those two together help the survivors or will it make matters worse?

 

[aardball44]

There was a ship on the island called the Black Rock, and Charlie's walking around with a ceramic Madonna filled with white rock. Well, it's heroin...but close enough.

 

[stbugs]

Also interesting was AL's comment to Mr Ecko: "I liked you better when you didn't talk".....

Could he have been  a mute before the crash?

Does anyone else notice that Mr. Ecko seems to have some sort of knowledge about the island similar to Locke?Could he be the Yin to Locke's Yang?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Mr. Ecko also had some sort of disability or handicap prior to coming to the island.

Also, at some point in the old thread there was a discussion about white/black objects throughout the series. That for every white object there was a corresponding black object.

Could bringing those two together help the survivors or will it make matters worse?

We really haven't seen much at all about black and white things in a while. I can't even think of anything outside of Adam & Eve. There might have been more, but I really don't remember anything of significance. Like what aardball was trying to get at (I think?), that something like the "Black" Rock really hasn't been shown to have its opposite. Also, everyone thought it was a black colored rock at the time and it wasn't, so maybe that speculation on the whole good /evil or black/white was a little off based once we saw the ship.I am interested into Anna's comment about the fact that she liked him better when he didn't talk, but it could be as simple as Anna is a strong personality and Mr. Echo was her quiet powerful backer. Now he is started to get soft in her eyes and speaking up/disagreeing with her.

 

[noneother]

how do the 2 groups match up.. ecko(L), Locke.. both seem to be expert trackers in this environment... Ana is the leader and aggressive one, Jack is the leader an interactive one... and so on???

 

[caabeel]

how do the 2 groups match up.. ecko(L), Locke.. both seem to be expert trackers in this environment... Ana is the leader and aggressive one, Jack is the leader an interactive one... and so on???

That's an interesting thought.....how Jack and Ana will interact.....or clash.

 

[Buckychudd]

how do the 2 groups match up.. ecko(L), Locke.. both seem to be expert trackers in this environment...  Ana is the leader and aggressive one, Jack is the leader an interactive one...  and so on???

That's an interesting thought.....how Jack and Ana will interact.....or clash.

They hit it off at the airport bar.

 

[noneother]

how do the 2 groups match up.. ecko(L), Locke.. both seem to be expert trackers in this environment...  Ana is the leader and aggressive one, Jack is the leader an interactive one...  and so on???

That's an interesting thought.....how Jack and Ana will interact.....or clash.

They hit it off at the airport bar.

right but as we have found.. alot of people on the island are going towards their Nature... also, certain people are using their nature to accomodate the roles in their respective groups... so you can see how the "trackers" are different..Locke is cavalier and anxious, selflish maybe.... Ecko(L) is passive, conservative, and willing to risk for Sawyer... Ana is mega _UNT, and leads thru force... Jack leads thru guidance and moral code...

 

[Challenge Everything]

I hope Anna does not soften up because that would not be good for her character. I dont think Anna = Jack though. Anna = Sayid in my mind because I think Anna lost someone from the back to the Others and now Sayid lost someone "to the Others" and those comparisons are spot on. Jack may not have an equal that we know of yet... maybe the boat dude though.

 

[iamsmilin]

Nice....Charlie in the Flashback...

Where? Saw Jack, but where was Charlie?

 

[miphin]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

 

[caabeel]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

I was thinking that too......(unhid because it's a theory not a spoiler)

 

[(HULK)]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

lol and the gun shot was just coincidence?some of the theories in here are a joke.

I love this theory. The gun shot would've been at the Walt ghost.I have problems believing it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon. Mainly because

it was leaked that the killer would be a suprise, and would be someone we knew and loved. Ana Lucia fits neither criteria

 

[caabeel]

how do the 2 groups match up.. ecko(L), Locke.. both seem to be expert trackers in this environment... Ana is the leader and aggressive one, Jack is the leader an interactive one... and so on???

That's an interesting thought.....how Jack and Ana will interact.....or clash.

They hit it off at the airport bar.

True, but that was pre "I'm the leader" mode....

 

[caabeel]

I love this theory. The gun shot would've been at the Walt ghost.

I have problems believing it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon. Mainly because

it was leaked that the killer would be a suprise, and would be someone we knew and loved. Ana Lucia fits neither criteria

I agree. And I think that's why the wound is puzzling.....it was intentional.

 

[stbugs]

why are the Others attacking in the first place?

island seems big enough for all.

I guess you are going to have to wait until next week.Right now all we know is that they obviously want children, although they did also take some adult tailies, so who knows. Maybe it has to do with all of the DHARMA experiments? Hmmm, I wonder.

Also, don't you think the show would be a bit boring if we knew all of the answers?

 

[Challenge Everything]

Did we ever figure out what D.H.A.R.M.A. means?

 

[stbugs]

I love this theory.  The gun shot would've been at the Walt ghost.

I have problems believing it was Ana Lucia who killed Shannon.  Mainly because

it was leaked that the killer would be a suprise, and would be someone we knew and loved.  Ana Lucia fits neither criteria

I agree. And I think that's why the wound is puzzling.....it was intentional.

I agree with both of you and I do actually think that Walt did it and that Anna wasn't the real shooter. I don't like the idea of an accidental killing that would splinter the survivors while the Others were hunting them down.Don't forget that Walt didn't disappear this time and wasn't covered in water, so this time it might have actually been him. Also, if Mr. Echo is afraid of children with Jin at his side, then it isn't a stretch that Walt has been turned to the dark side and would be able to kill Shannon.

 

[stbugs]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

lol and the gun shot was just coincidence?some of the theories in here are a joke.

Read Hulk's spoiler info inside of a few posts in the last two pages and you might get his thoughts.

 

[stbugs]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

I was thinking that too......(unhid because it's a theory not a spoiler)

I actually think that a motive could be there as well. Walt was taken by the Others like the children from the tail-enders. Mr. Echo with Jin was afraid of the same children that were taken from the tail-enders. It ain't much of a stretch to think that Walt would become bad based on the tail-ender kids.

 

[iamsmilin]

I missed Jack in the background.

Here is the screen shot of Jack at the hospital... and here is the shot of Rose also at the hospital. WTF is she doing there?

That ain't Rose.

These don't work for me. Any help?

 

[iamsmilin]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

I have the same thought. I read somewhere in this thread that you find out how evil the killer really is. It would be perfect if it were him.Also, I have had a funny feeling about Libby since she came back without Michael.

 

[FFChick32]

Also interesting was AL's comment to Mr Ecko: "I liked you better when you didn't talk".....

Could he have been  a mute before the crash?

Does anyone else notice that Mr. Ecko seems to have some sort of knowledge about the island similar to Locke?Could he be the Yin to Locke's Yang?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Mr. Ecko also had some sort of disability or handicap prior to coming to the island.

Also, at some point in the old thread there was a discussion about white/black objects throughout the series. That for every white object there was a corresponding black object.

Could bringing those two together help the survivors or will it make matters worse?

We really haven't seen much at all about black and white things in a while. I can't even think of anything outside of Adam & Eve. There might have been more, but I really don't remember anything of significance. Like what aardball was trying to get at (I think?), that something like the "Black" Rock really hasn't been shown to have its opposite. Also, everyone thought it was a black colored rock at the time and it wasn't, so maybe that speculation on the whole good /evil or black/white was a little off based once we saw the ship.I am interested into Anna's comment about the fact that she liked him better when he didn't talk, but it could be as simple as Anna is a strong personality and Mr. Echo was her quiet powerful backer. Now he is started to get soft in her eyes and speaking up/disagreeing with her.

What about Rose and her husband??Also, isn't AL supposed to be in a love triangle of some kind? I thought I read that somewhere - Kate/Sawyer/AL? Kate/Jack/AL?

P.S. I finally got my husband into the show with me and they have to kill off his little eye candy? I am sooo upset

 

[stbugs]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

I have the same thought. I read somewhere in this thread that you find out how evil the killer really is. It would be perfect if it were him.Also, I have had a funny feeling about Libby since she came back without Michael.

I actually think Libby seems nice. She keeps getting almost reprimanded by Anna because Anna doesn't trust or care about Michael/Jin/Sawyer. Libby keeps telling them stuff and almost looks like she shouldn't have told them. Didn't Anna tell her not to mention the kids? Anna is a little too guarded especially since she pretty much knows that these guys were on the flight since they know Rose. I think that after the shooting or stabbing, her expression changed. I think Anna may end up being normal again when she meets all the other survivors. The tailies, as we will find out, seem to have gone through more than we realized and thus she became the tough guy leader in order to save the rest of them.Also, what do you mean when Libby came back without Michael? It was Echo/Jin that went looking for him. I don't remember her leaving him anywhere, I thought he ran off immediately to find his son and to be honest, I wouldn't have followed him, I would have just told everyone else what he did.

 

[stbugs]

Also interesting was AL's comment to Mr Ecko: "I liked you better when you didn't talk".....

Could he have been  a mute before the crash?

Does anyone else notice that Mr. Ecko seems to have some sort of knowledge about the island similar to Locke?Could he be the Yin to Locke's Yang?

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Mr. Ecko also had some sort of disability or handicap prior to coming to the island.

Also, at some point in the old thread there was a discussion about white/black objects throughout the series. That for every white object there was a corresponding black object.

Could bringing those two together help the survivors or will it make matters worse?

We really haven't seen much at all about black and white things in a while. I can't even think of anything outside of Adam & Eve. There might have been more, but I really don't remember anything of significance. Like what aardball was trying to get at (I think?), that something like the "Black" Rock really hasn't been shown to have its opposite. Also, everyone thought it was a black colored rock at the time and it wasn't, so maybe that speculation on the whole good /evil or black/white was a little off based once we saw the ship.I am interested into Anna's comment about the fact that she liked him better when he didn't talk, but it could be as simple as Anna is a strong personality and Mr. Echo was her quiet powerful backer. Now he is started to get soft in her eyes and speaking up/disagreeing with her.

What about Rose and her husband??Also, isn't AL supposed to be in a love triangle of some kind? I thought I read that somewhere - Kate/Sawyer/AL? Kate/Jack/AL?

P.S. I finally got my husband into the show with me and they have to kill off his little eye candy? I am sooo upset

Rose and Bernard? They are married and love each other. I don't see anyway they will ever be opposites or fighting each other. They just made Bernard white because no one would have thought it was him. Everybody, except at least person in this thread, talked about whether Mr. Echo was Rose's husband because he was black.As to the love triangle not sure what that has to do with black and white. Personally, if it involves Kate and Anna, let's do it in color.

 

[iamsmilin]

Just pulling a theory out my bum, but what if it was Walt that stabbed Shannon? He was 'there' that would explain the nasty hole in Shannon and maybe AL was taking a shot at his ghost? I am probably way off, but its another thought to keep the theory machine rolling. Of course the motive factor is lacking, unless he just wanted his dog back.

I have the same thought. I read somewhere in this thread that you find out how evil the killer really is. It would be perfect if it were him.Also, I have had a funny feeling about Libby since she came back without Michael.

I actually think Libby seems nice. She keeps getting almost reprimanded by Anna because Anna doesn't trust or care about Michael/Jin/Sawyer. Libby keeps telling them stuff and almost looks like she shouldn't have told them. Didn't Anna tell her not to mention the kids? Anna is a little too guarded especially since she pretty much knows that these guys were on the flight since they know Rose. I think that after the shooting or stabbing, her expression changed. I think Anna may end up being normal again when she meets all the other survivors. The tailies, as we will find out, seem to have gone through more than we realized and thus she became the tough guy leader in order to save the rest of them.Also, what do you mean when Libby came back without Michael? It was Echo/Jin that went looking for him. I don't remember her leaving him anywhere, I thought he ran off immediately to find his son and to be honest, I wouldn't have followed him, I would have just told everyone else what he did.

I read somewhere that this season will have a lot to do with the struggle between the way the tallies and the rest of the survivors run things. It will be interesting to see how things play out. Esp with the small amount of attraction with her and jack.You are on spot with what I was thinking about. She walks off with Michael and comes back alone. I don't know why, but at that point I wondered if Michael was dead and she was an Other. Ever since then I don't trust her. Maybe it's just me.

 

[oso diablo]

Also, what do you mean when Libby came back without Michael? It was Echo/Jin that went looking for him. I don't remember her leaving him anywhere, I thought he ran off immediately to find his son and to be honest, I wouldn't have followed him, I would have just told everyone else what he did.

You are on spot with what I was thinking about. She walks off with Michael and comes back alone. I don't know why, but at that point I wondered if Michael was dead and she was an Other. Ever since then I don't trust her. Maybe it's just me.

but when did Libby walk off with Michael? I'm with stbugs; i don't remember that part.

 

[iamsmilin]

Also, what do you mean when Libby came back without Michael? It was Echo/Jin that went looking for him. I don't remember her leaving him anywhere, I thought he ran off immediately to find his son and to be honest, I wouldn't have followed him, I would have just told everyone else what he did.

You are on spot with what I was thinking about. She walks off with Michael and comes back alone. I don't know why, but at that point I wondered if Michael was dead and she was an Other. Ever since then I don't trust her. Maybe it's just me.

but when did Libby walk off with Michael? I'm with stbugs; i don't remember that part.

Right before they all planned to take off. They were suppossed to go get water for the trip and she came back without him. Which lead me to question why he left. Did she say something to him about the fact that the others seemed to be live in that area? Did they hear something? Very unexplained.

 

[stbugs]

Also, what do you mean when Libby came back without Michael? It was Echo/Jin that went looking for him. I don't remember her leaving him anywhere, I thought he ran off immediately to find his son and to be honest, I wouldn't have followed him, I would have just told everyone else what he did.

You are on spot with what I was thinking about. She walks off with Michael and comes back alone. I don't know why, but at that point I wondered if Michael was dead and she was an Other. Ever since then I don't trust her. Maybe it's just me.

but when did Libby walk off with Michael? I'm with stbugs; i don't remember that part.

Right before they all planned to take off. They were suppossed to go get water for the trip and she came back without him. Which lead me to question why he left. Did she say something to him about the fact that the others seemed to be live in that area? Did they hear something? Very unexplained.

I think you are reading into it too much. Unless we see next week that she wasn't really on the plane. I do plan to watch next week's carefully to see if any of the remaining tailies just shows up like Ethan.Walt means everything to Michael and that point was the first point that Michael had a chance to go after his kid. Anna had already threatended them with a gun so I am sure he didn't trust her yet. It wasn't until Echo/Jin went after him and talked some sense into him that he won't find him by running through the jungle screaming, he will just get himself killed. I don't think Libby did anything bad, I think she just came back and told everyone that Michael ran off. She is the only one that has really told them anything yet.

 

[iamsmilin]

Also, what do you mean when Libby came back without Michael? It was Echo/Jin that went looking for him. I don't remember her leaving him anywhere, I thought he ran off immediately to find his son and to be honest, I wouldn't have followed him, I would have just told everyone else what he did.

You are on spot with what I was thinking about. She walks off with Michael and comes back alone. I don't know why, but at that point I wondered if Michael was dead and she was an Other. Ever since then I don't trust her. Maybe it's just me.

but when did Libby walk off with Michael? I'm with stbugs; i don't remember that part.

Right before they all planned to take off. They were suppossed to go get water for the trip and she came back without him. Which lead me to question why he left. Did she say something to him about the fact that the others seemed to be live in that area? Did they hear something? Very unexplained.

I think you are reading into it too much. Unless we see next week that she wasn't really on the plane. I do plan to watch next week's carefully to see if any of the remaining tailies just shows up like Ethan.Walt means everything to Michael and that point was the first point that Michael had a chance to go after his kid. Anna had already threatended them with a gun so I am sure he didn't trust her yet. It wasn't until Echo/Jin went after him and talked some sense into him that he won't find him by running through the jungle screaming, he will just get himself killed. I don't think Libby did anything bad, I think she just came back and told everyone that Michael ran off. She is the only one that has really told them anything yet.

you may be right, but i still have an odd feeling about her.

 

[jplvr]

I'm going to try watching that epsiode sober sometime. Might have trouble pigeon-holing that into my sober moments though.

 

[prosopis]

 

[Twilight]

As a note for the Shannon isn't dead group, from IMDB today...

'Lost' Draws Killer Ratings Demonstrating once again that there's nothing like killing off a regular character to produce solid ratings during a "sweeps" week, the producers of ABC's Lost shot down Shannon, played by Maggie Grace, on an episode that garnered a 13.1 rating and a 19 share (8.3/20 among adults 18-49). Executive producer Carlton Cuse told USA Today that Grace was "really awesome" after learning that her character was being written out of the show. "We had to negotiate her contract for this season, so she's known for a long time this was coming. But she was nothing but absolutely professional and completely tight-lipped and completely a team player in terms of going to events, doing interviews and participating as a full member of the cast without giving any indication that she was dying." Despite Lost's strong showing, CBS's Criminal Minds also produced solid numbers during the same 9:00 p.m. hour, registering a 10.1/15.

 

[iamsmilin]

As a note for the Shannon isn't dead group, from IMDB today...

'Lost' Draws Killer Ratings

Demonstrating once again that there's nothing like killing off a regular character to produce solid ratings during a "sweeps" week, the producers of ABC's Lost shot down Shannon, played by Maggie Grace, on an episode that garnered a 13.1 rating and a 19 share (8.3/20 among adults 18-49). Executive producer Carlton Cuse told USA Today that Grace was "really awesome" after learning that her character was being written out of the show. "We had to negotiate her contract for this season, so she's known for a long time this was coming. But she was nothing but absolutely professional and completely tight-lipped and completely a team player in terms of going to events, doing interviews and participating as a full member of the cast without giving any indication that she was dying." Despite Lost's strong showing, CBS's Criminal Minds also produced solid numbers during the same 9:00 p.m. hour, registering a 10.1/15.

Which makes sense. But I read that she had also JUST bought a house in Hawaii. Why would you do that if you knew you were no longer filming there. BTW I do think she is dead, I just wanted to put that tidbit out there.

 

[Twilight]

As a note for the Shannon isn't dead group, from IMDB today...

'Lost' Draws Killer Ratings

Demonstrating once again that there's nothing like killing off a regular character to produce solid ratings during a "sweeps" week, the producers of ABC's Lost shot down Shannon, played by Maggie Grace, on an episode that garnered a 13.1 rating and a 19 share (8.3/20 among adults 18-49). Executive producer Carlton Cuse told USA Today that Grace was "really awesome" after learning that her character was being written out of the show. "We had to negotiate her contract for this season, so she's known for a long time this was coming. But she was nothing but absolutely professional and completely tight-lipped and completely a team player in terms of going to events, doing interviews and participating as a full member of the cast without giving any indication that she was dying." Despite Lost's strong showing, CBS's Criminal Minds also produced solid numbers during the same 9:00 p.m. hour, registering a 10.1/15.

Which makes sense. But I read that she had also JUST bought a house in Hawaii. Why would you do that if you knew you were no longer filming there. BTW I do think she is dead, I just wanted to put that tidbit out there.

1. It's Hawaii. Why not buy a house there, especially if you have the money?2. Being dead on Lost doesn't mean she won't be on the show ever again. I could see a flashback or two with her in it.

But on the flipside, writing Flashbacks without Boone for Shannon could have been a little difficult, so this might be an out for the writers from having to deal with whether they can get Ian for an episode they have written with a Shannon flashback.

 

[trogg78]

why are the Others attacking in the first place?

island seems big enough for all.

Gilligans island aint coming back so get over it.

 

[stbugs]

As a note for the Shannon isn't dead group, from IMDB today...

'Lost' Draws Killer Ratings

Demonstrating once again that there's nothing like killing off a regular character to produce solid ratings during a "sweeps" week, the producers of ABC's Lost shot down Shannon, played by Maggie Grace, on an episode that garnered a 13.1 rating and a 19 share (8.3/20 among adults 18-49). Executive producer Carlton Cuse told USA Today that Grace was "really awesome" after learning that her character was being written out of the show. "We had to negotiate her contract for this season, so she's known for a long time this was coming. But she was nothing but absolutely professional and completely tight-lipped and completely a team player in terms of going to events, doing interviews and participating as a full member of the cast without giving any indication that she was dying." Despite Lost's strong showing, CBS's Criminal Minds also produced solid numbers during the same 9:00 p.m. hour, registering a 10.1/15.

Which makes sense. But I read that she had also JUST bought a house in Hawaii. Why would you do that if you knew you were no longer filming there. BTW I do think she is dead, I just wanted to put that tidbit out there.

1. It's Hawaii. Why not buy a house there, especially if you have the money?2. Being dead on Lost doesn't mean she won't be on the show ever again. I could see a flashback or two with her in it.

But on the flipside, writing Flashbacks without Boone for Shannon could have been a little difficult, so this might be an out for the writers from having to deal with whether they can get Ian for an episode they have written with a Shannon flashback.

Just because she is dead doesn't mean she won't be back on a couple episodes.

Also, what do you mean in the bolded text? Boone was in this week's episode. Is Ian not doing anymore Lost episodes even if they ask him? I wasn't aware of any issues there, but your statement makes me think you heard something like that.

 

[aardball44]

Any chance that we see Boone and Shannon resurrected somehow by the mysterious powers of the island? Maybe later this season...maybe next...?Maybe the Others have died already, and come back? Maybe Walt as well? :isle-be-back:

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

My take is that Ana Lucia didn't shoot Shannon. Someone else 'killed' her, possibly Libby, possibly Cindy, possibly Walt. It's unlikely to be any of our regular heroes as they wouldn't have been close to the action. Cannot have been Mr Echo or Bernard.It could have been one of the Others, but that would suck. Desmond is not out of the running either. Best episode of the new series and sets the scene beautifully for the next 3 or 4 episdoes

 

[aardball44]

Best episode of the new series and sets the scene beautifully for the next 3 or 4 episdoes

I still think the opening three minutes of this season's first episode was some of the best network television I've seen in years. The entire episode matched the Season One premiere in its intensity and surprises."Make your own kind of music..."

 

[bigbottom]

This may have been covered earlier in the thread, but are we sure that Ethan was part of the Others? Sure he was trying to steal the baby like the Others apparently stole children from the tailenders, but there are some things that don't add up. He seemed reasonably well-dressed in newer clothing. The Others seem to be a lot more dirty and Tarzan-like in their appearance (granted, we only saw a shot of their legs). Also, when Ethan was ambushed and killed by Charlie, he was punked pretty easily. The Others seem to be far more savvy than that, and they apparently act in groups. Perhaps Ethan was trying to trade for something just like the French woman. In fact, the boat dudes seem to be in the child-trade business as well, as they don't seem to be part of the Others, yet they took Walt who now appears to be in the hands of the Others.

 

[posty]

Programming Note for November 16th Episode:Next weeks episode - "The Other 48 Days", will run until 10:05pm ET... So set your VCR or other devices accordingly...

 

[curta269]

I am an idiot. I somehow missed this show last season. I remember watching the first episode, but not much after that. Last week, I rented the first 4 episodes. I got hooked and ended up buying the whole first season on dvd. I have watched all but the last 2 episodes. Now, I have to catch up on this season. Maybe on my next day off, I will read thru this whole thread. I don't have time now for 75 pages.Great show though! I am glad I finally watched it.

 

[Paper Lions]

This may have been covered earlier in the thread, but are we sure that Ethan was part of the Others? Sure he was trying to steal the baby like the Others apparently stole children from the tailenders, but there are some things that don't add up. He seemed reasonably well-dressed in newer clothing. The Others seem to be a lot more dirty and Tarzan-like in their appearance (granted, we only saw a shot of their legs). Also, when Ethan was ambushed and killed by Charlie, he was punked pretty easily. The Others seem to be far more savvy than that, and they apparently act in groups. Perhaps Ethan was trying to trade for something just like the French woman. In fact, the boat dudes seem to be in the child-trade business as well, as they don't seem to be part of the Others, yet they took Walt who now appears to be in the hands of the Others.

Hey BB, that's a pretty good point about the "others" looking a little frayed while Ethan was well dressed. I hadn't thought about that. Let me ask a follow up question, are we sure that the folks looking frayed (as seen by Echo/Jin) are "the Others"? I'm not sure why one particular group has that label...or where the hell the label came from anyway. Great point though, that does seem inconsistent.

 

[bigbottom]

This may have been covered earlier in the thread, but are we sure that Ethan was part of the Others?  Sure he was trying to steal the baby like the Others apparently stole children from the tailenders, but there are some things that don't add up.  He seemed reasonably well-dressed in newer clothing.  The Others seem to be a lot more dirty and Tarzan-like in their appearance (granted, we only saw a shot of their legs).  Also, when Ethan was ambushed and killed by Charlie, he was punked pretty easily.  The Others seem to be far more savvy than that, and they apparently act in groups.  Perhaps Ethan was trying to trade for something just like the French woman.  In fact, the boat dudes seem to be in the child-trade business as well, as they don't seem to be part of the Others, yet they took Walt who now appears to be in the hands of the Others.

Hey BB, that's a pretty good point about the "others" looking a little frayed while Ethan was well dressed. I hadn't thought about that. Let me ask a follow up question, are we sure that the folks looking frayed (as seen by Echo/Jin) are "the Others"? I'm not sure why one particular group has that label...or where the hell the label came from anyway. Great point though, that does seem inconsistent.

I would think the folks we saw while Ecko and Jin were hiding are the Others. It sounds like the tailenders have seen the Others during the repeated attacks on their group (perhaps not), so I would think that Ecko would recognize the group (which is why he was hiding). Also, there was a child with the frayed group we saw, and indications are that the Others took the children from the tailenders.

 

[bigbottom]

One more thing on Ethan. Whenever the Others have (supposedly) been around, we've heard the whispering. Not so when Ethan came for the baby. In fact, Ethan was just an angry, out of control dude, which doesn't seem to jive with what we know about the Others thus far. Seems like Ethan has more in common with Bthe oat Dudes, whoever they are.

 

[stbugs]

This may have been covered earlier in the thread, but are we sure that Ethan was part of the Others?  Sure he was trying to steal the baby like the Others apparently stole children from the tailenders, but there are some things that don't add up.  He seemed reasonably well-dressed in newer clothing.  The Others seem to be a lot more dirty and Tarzan-like in their appearance (granted, we only saw a shot of their legs).  Also, when Ethan was ambushed and killed by Charlie, he was punked pretty easily.  The Others seem to be far more savvy than that, and they apparently act in groups.  Perhaps Ethan was trying to trade for something just like the French woman.  In fact, the boat dudes seem to be in the child-trade business as well, as they don't seem to be part of the Others, yet they took Walt who now appears to be in the hands of the Others.

Hey BB, that's a pretty good point about the "others" looking a little frayed while Ethan was well dressed. I hadn't thought about that. Let me ask a follow up question, are we sure that the folks looking frayed (as seen by Echo/Jin) are "the Others"? I'm not sure why one particular group has that label...or where the hell the label came from anyway. Great point though, that does seem inconsistent.

I would think the folks we saw while Ecko and Jin were hiding are the Others. It sounds like the tailenders have seen the Others during the repeated attacks on their group (perhaps not), so I would think that Ecko would recognize the group (which is why he was hiding). Also, there was a child with the frayed group we saw, and indications are that the Others took the children from the tailenders.

The only issue with that is that the 3 guys on the boat and Ethan are pretty big guys, but the group that Echo saw looked to be pre-teen/children's legs. I keep thinking that the kids might hold a big key to what went wrong on the island. I still think that it is possible that the boat guys/Ethan might be under control of the kids.It just struck me when Echo, even with Jin, was deathly afraid of what looked like a group of kids. Echo took out Sawyer/Jin/Michael without even being fearful, but he was afraid of the Other kids who included some children from the tail section. Also, the way Echo talked about them not leaving footprints and that you couldn't find them if you tried, just made me think that they weren't ordinary kids anymore.

That is also why I still think that it is possible that Walt killed Shannon and that Anna didn't shoot her. He wasn't wet, didn't say anything garbled and he ran off and if the children from the tail section are already "bad", then why couldn't Walt be turned already.

 

[miphin]

This may have been covered earlier in the thread, but are we sure that Ethan was part of the Others?  Sure he was trying to steal the baby like the Others apparently stole children from the tailenders, but there are some things that don't add up.  He seemed reasonably well-dressed in newer clothing.  The Others seem to be a lot more dirty and Tarzan-like in their appearance (granted, we only saw a shot of their legs).  Also, when Ethan was ambushed and killed by Charlie, he was punked pretty easily.  The Others seem to be far more savvy than that, and they apparently act in groups.  Perhaps Ethan was trying to trade for something just like the French woman.  In fact, the boat dudes seem to be in the child-trade business as well, as they don't seem to be part of the Others, yet they took Walt who now appears to be in the hands of the Others.

Hey BB, that's a pretty good point about the "others" looking a little frayed while Ethan was well dressed. I hadn't thought about that. Let me ask a follow up question, are we sure that the folks looking frayed (as seen by Echo/Jin) are "the Others"? I'm not sure why one particular group has that label...or where the hell the label came from anyway. Great point though, that does seem inconsistent.

As far as Ethan being dapper, you gotta remember he was posing as a crash survivor and had access to all the suitcases, etc... from the crash. People are trying to put these characters into too many groups, IMO there are 2 maybe 3 groups.

1 - DHARMA / Others

2a - Survivors

2b - Other survivors (i.e. french broad & Desmond, etc...)

 

[aardball44]

When's (possible spoiler) "Kelvin" going to make an appearance?