**** OFFICIAL **** LOST - The TV Series (2 Viewers)

[Wingnut]

This thread used to be cool. Theres just too much over analyzation of every detail.

 

[Wingnut]

Remember when this thread wass cool and didnt over-analyze every little detail?Me neither.

 

[PC Load Letter]

This thread used to be cool. Theres just too much over analyzation of every detail.

Remember when this thread wass cool and didnt over-analyze every little detail?

Me neither.

So what are you trying to say?

 

[noneother]

if I analyze his statement correctly, I think he may have concerns over our 'hypothesizing"PS it's all a dream... I wonder if the writers lurk? and get their ideas from our "analysis"?

 

[Worm]

If you don't like the thread, then GTFO. That is all.

 

[stbugs]

I did notice a couple things about the orientation video. First the guy mentions that the Degroots wanted to build a compound:"Imagined a large scale communo-research compound..."Then he follows it up with a quote that Hanso helped them realize:"made their dream of a multipurpose science and research facility a reality"Apologies to wingnut and others who think we over analyze, but I do think this definitely indicates that the hatch is 1 of 6 facilities on the island and hopefully, we will find out what the other five are. As noted in many threads above, we have the shark, the polar bear, the whispers, the many visions of people not really there, and Walt's seemingly psychic abilities.Oh well, to me the show is only getting better. They could go in so many directions, but as long as they do a storyline that seems like they knew where they were going all along, I am happy. I just don't want to have Bob Newhart wake up one day and realize it was just a dream. It may work for a comedy, but something like that would piss me off for having watched every show up until then.

 

[David Yudkin]

Hmmm . . . we have however many people entering numbers into a computer every 108 minutes for 25 years. What would happen if they stopped?Now we have however many people turning their televisions on every Wednesday night for however many years. What would happen if they stopped?I think the psychological experiement is how many viewers can they hook watching a show about psychological experiements.

 

[Capella]

If you don't like the thread, then GTFO. That is all.

 

[glvsav37]

Hmmm . . . we have however many people entering numbers into a computer every 108 minutes for 25 years. What would happen if they stopped?

Now we have however many people turning their televisions on every Wednesday night for however many years. What would happen if they stopped?

I think the psychological experiement is how many viewers can they hook watching a show about psychological experiements.

I love the show, but lately I have been thinking the exact same thing....I just couldn't put it as eloquently as you did!

 

[PC Load Letter]

Hmmm . . . we have however many people entering numbers into a computer every 108 minutes for 25 years.  What would happen if they stopped?

Now we have however many people turning their televisions on every Wednesday night for however many years.  What would happen if they stopped?

I think the psychological experiement is how many viewers can they hook watching a show about psychological experiements.

I disagree. The story changes each week. We're learning new things and new questions are put forth every show. It's totally different then fearing a doomsday event that you've been told you can prevent by stopping a repeating countdown.

 

[GoL]

One issue that I am having trouble with is why would anyone push the button every 108 minutes for 3+ years?A poster made the arguement that they should push it once and then investigate/discuss the consequences.Personally I'm with Jack, I'm not signing up to push the stupid button every hour and a half. After being stranded on a weird island for a month I'll take my chances with the magnetic field rather than go insane.How many of you are Jacks and how many are Lockes? Would you take over Desmond's duties?

 

[noneother]

How many of you are Jacks and how many are Lockes?  Would you take over Desmond's duties?

interesting spin.... take a look at these characters on the island.. and their previous lives in flashbacks OFF the island...jack became a beiever when his patient began to walk (to be wife) locke was NOT a believer...due to his father, (and it looks like things got even worse cause he hadn't been paralyzed yet) until he could walk..

FAITH... Jack lost his, locke gained his.. both based on spinal injury

 

[Dolfan]

Remember when this thread wass cool and didnt over-analyze every little detail?

Me neither.

if I analyze his statement correctly, I think he may have concerns over our 'hypothesizing"

That's what I thought at first too, BUT....Notice the extra 's' in the word 'wass'... I think the extra 's' is probably a code for something. 'S' is the 19th letter of the alphabet. If you add 4 and 15 (two of the numbers) together, you get 19

This show just keeps getting better and better!!

 

[Yao Ming]

I think the whole show is being overanalyzed by you guys, and it's nearing the point of being ridiculous. Looks like Dharma worked it's psychology on you guys.

 

[noneother]

I think the whole show is being overanalyzed by you guys, and it's nearing the point of being ridiculous. Looks like Dharma worked it's psychology on you guys.

no way

 

[krash]

I have scanned the last 20-30 pages and I didn't see reference to this, so I'll ask it here. I am fairly certain that when Desmond meets Jack in the stadium, there is a logo on his shirt very similar to one of the Dharma logos. Has this been discussed? Does anyone have any screenshots? Can anyone watch the scene again and see if there is any resemblance?

 

[stbugs]

Hmmm . . . we have however many people entering numbers into a computer every 108 minutes for 25 years. What would happen if they stopped?

Now we have however many people turning their televisions on every Wednesday night for however many years. What would happen if they stopped?

I think the psychological experiement is how many viewers can they hook watching a show about psychological experiements.

Damn, now I am pissed. For some reason I let my Norton Internet Security kill my browser to remove an adware thingy. Now I have to retype this all.Anyway, I think the producers/writers have already been running experiments on us. Here are some examples:

1. They show the book Watership Down a bunch and so far the wild bunnies with guns have not launched an assault even though some Lost s probably bought the book and read the whole thing. They (the show folks) probably tracked the sales spike just to see.

2. They had a fake script right around the time where there was a ton of speculation on the monster and people were trying to figure out what a Mapinguari (sp?) was. The amount of zoological research that was done on the Lost forums/threads was amazing. It was like learning of a new species every day.

3. They also teased us with the giant Aztec/Australian eagle thing when they showed previews of Shannon getting lifted to the sky only to show us that it was a dream.

4. They spent so much time on the hatch and we theorized everything under the sun on what was down there and in a matter of three episodes, we know almost everything about the hatch itself and now have a bigger mystery. I mean, have you seen what some people have done? LINK to Hatch Diagram

5. They gave us two more fake scripts on clones and zombies. I think everyone blew over the zombie thing, but the clone one had some legs.

6. They leaked something to USA Today about the book Desmond was reading, The Third Policeman, and unless we find that once they stop entering in the numbers, the earth will actually become an ovoid because they just turned off the islands magnetic field that was keeping the earth round, then I think this pretty wacky book is a red herring. The producers probably saw a reference to a black cloud and decided to insert that book. As Grid referenced earlier, the book which is 40 years old, saw in increase in sales probably due to Lost s buying it to find out more about the island.

Now we have this whole DHARMA project and who knows where that is going to take us, but we are definitely talking about it. I am sure I missed stuff, but I already know that the writers and producers are experimenting with us and leaking stuff just to see what their audience does.

 

[Buckychudd]

5. They gave us two more fake scripts on clones and zombies. I think everyone blew over the zombie thing, but the clone one had some legs.

Several times they've inserted things into the scripts that have been speculated on this and other forums. i.e. Hurley not gaining weight.

 

[PC Load Letter]

4. They spent so much time on the hatch and we theorized everything under the sun on what was down there and in a matter of three episodes, we know almost everything about the hatch itself and now have a bigger mystery. I mean, have you seen what some people have done? LINK to Hatch Diagram

That's freakin' beautiful. Way more diehard than us.. but c'mon.. the workmanship is outstanding.

 

[stbugs]

4. They spent so much time on the hatch and we theorized everything under the sun on what was down there and in a matter of three episodes, we know almost everything about the hatch itself and now have a bigger mystery. I mean, have you seen what some people have done? LINK to Hatch Diagram

That's freakin' beautiful. Way more diehard than us.. but c'mon.. the workmanship is outstanding.

You know what is funny about that is that I could swear there was another one I saw earlier that had a lot more color to each section. I just went to the abc.com forums and did a search on "hatch diagram" to see if I could find it. Maybe it is the same, but I just needed a link so I didn't look farther.Its funny, because pages like this make me wonder if this is really a fan, obsessed beyond belief with no real life fan, or someone that works for the TV Show and they just post there to keep the thread rolling.

Hah, in the same thread I found a reference to two other diagrams:

LINK You have to scroll down a ways

LINK This is the one I was thinking about

 

[noneother]

4. They spent so much time on the hatch and we theorized everything under the sun on what was down there and in a matter of three episodes, we know almost everything about the hatch itself and now have a bigger mystery. I mean, have you seen what some people have done? LINK to Hatch Diagram

That's freakin' beautiful. Way more diehard than us.. but c'mon.. the workmanship is outstanding.

You know what is funny about that is that I could swear there was another one I saw earlier that had a lot more color to each section. I just went to the abc.com forums and did a search on "hatch diagram" to see if I could find it. Maybe it is the same, but I just needed a link so I didn't look farther.Its funny, because pages like this make me wonder if this is really a fan, obsessed beyond belief with no real life fan, or someone that works for the TV Show and they just post there to keep the thread rolling.

Hah, in the same thread I found a reference to two other diagrams:

LINK You have to scroll down a ways

LINK This is the one I was thinking about

that second one is somewhere in this thread back in the 20's.... and i thot i had too much time.....

 

[bryhamm]

4. They spent so much time on the hatch and we theorized everything under the sun on what was down there and in a matter of three episodes, we know almost everything about the hatch itself and now have a bigger mystery. I mean, have you seen what some people have done? LINK to Hatch Diagram

That's freakin' beautiful. Way more diehard than us.. but c'mon.. the workmanship is outstanding.

You know what is funny about that is that I could swear there was another one I saw earlier that had a lot more color to each section. I just went to the abc.com forums and did a search on "hatch diagram" to see if I could find it. Maybe it is the same, but I just needed a link so I didn't look farther.Its funny, because pages like this make me wonder if this is really a fan, obsessed beyond belief with no real life fan, or someone that works for the TV Show and they just post there to keep the thread rolling.

Hah, in the same thread I found a reference to two other diagrams:

LINK You have to scroll down a ways

LINK This is the one I was thinking about

Here is another one that has screen shot references. It is pretty good IMO.

 

[jplvr]

I wondered if my post on the last page would've been taken as the joke it was. to stbugs.Last post on the subject, seriously. When the last episode last year aired, everyone speculated that the chick on the boat was Alex, but most agreed that she looked nothing like a 16 year old which prompted many posts suggesting that the island aged kids quicker. I still think she looks old, probably 30ish. Sure, that's not the 40-50 y/o range that I was talking about, but you can pass a 30 y/o looking for a 40 y/o better than you can for a 16 y/o. Of course, if you want to continue arguing, all you have to bring up is the cast of 90210.

 

[jplvr]

A couple of other things that suggest to me that Desmond is not the rube he would have us to believe:#1 The washing machine/dryer. Possibly a prop error, but those appliances were new... less than 2 years old. Everything else in the bunker was old, so possibly the prop guy thought those would just pass for the older models much like their new retro cousins. Hell, some people still think they are older ones.#2 Granted, we haven't seen the full pantry and Desmond never said how long he was down there, but it seems it's been a while... probably 2-3 years minimum IMO. There's not one empty shelf in the pantry. It looks like he was re-stocked yesterday from the look of things.#3 He almost perfectly recounted a random conversation with a guy he met for 5 minutes years ago. When we saw Jack killing his father's career, he seemed like a pretty esteemed member of the hospital staff (going off memory here). In the episode where he meets Desmond, he seems like a green-horn. Probably not a resident, but most likely not far from it. 5? 6? 7 years? Kind of hard for someone to detail a random conversation like that if they didn't have some reason to tuck it away in their memory. Granted, some people naturally have this ability, but I'm not buying it.#4 Discrepancies between his story and the story he told about meeting Kelvin. The plane crashed over a month ago, but Desmond acted like since he had to push the button every 2 hours, there was no way for him to get out much. But he told us that Kelvin, who was probably living alone at the time, met him on the beach when he landed on the island. Back to #2: If Kelvin died waiting on his replacements and Desmond has been living there for some time afterwards, wouldn't the shelves be even more bare? They look pretty full to me.

 

[shuke]

A couple of other things that suggest to me that Desmond is not the rube he would have us to believe:

#1 The washing machine/dryer. Possibly a prop error, but those appliances were new... less than 2 years old. Everything else in the bunker was old, so possibly the prop guy thought those would just pass for the older models much like their new retro cousins. Hell, some people still think they are older ones.

Jesus dude, again with the washer/dryer set?

#2 Granted, we haven't seen the full pantry and Desmond never said how long he was down there, but it seems it's been a while... probably 2-3 years minimum IMO. There's not one empty shelf in the pantry. It looks like he was re-stocked yesterday from the look of things.

I thought he said it was a couple months.

 

[Skylord]

Athanasius Kircher's Magnets, Numbers and Islands

And possible ties to Atlantis. Just because you can't get enough of this stuff.

 

[Yao Ming]

52 pages and still, the greatest of unsolved mysteries remains unsolved. 44 days on an island with ample time to burn, so who's banging Kate?

 

[stbugs]

A couple of other things that suggest to me that Desmond is not the rube he would have us to believe:

#1 The washing machine/dryer. Possibly a prop error, but those appliances were new... less than 2 years old. Everything else in the bunker was old, so possibly the prop guy thought those would just pass for the older models much like their new retro cousins. Hell, some people still think they are older ones.

#2 Granted, we haven't seen the full pantry and Desmond never said how long he was down there, but it seems it's been a while... probably 2-3 years minimum IMO. There's not one empty shelf in the pantry. It looks like he was re-stocked yesterday from the look of things.

#3 He almost perfectly recounted a random conversation with a guy he met for 5 minutes years ago. When we saw Jack killing his father's career, he seemed like a pretty esteemed member of the hospital staff (going off memory here). In the episode where he meets Desmond, he seems like a green-horn. Probably not a resident, but most likely not far from it. 5? 6? 7 years? Kind of hard for someone to detail a random conversation like that if they didn't have some reason to tuck it away in their memory. Granted, some people naturally have this ability, but I'm not buying it.

#4 Discrepancies between his story and the story he told about meeting Kelvin. The plane crashed over a month ago, but Desmond acted like since he had to push the button every 2 hours, there was no way for him to get out much. But he told us that Kelvin, who was probably living alone at the time, met him on the beach when he landed on the island.

Back to #2: If Kelvin died waiting on his replacements and Desmond has been living there for some time afterwards, wouldn't the shelves be even more bare? They look pretty full to me.

I agree on #1 and #2 that those don't make sense if Desmond is telling the truth. I believe he is and isn't an evil mastermind. I also believe that as much as stuff gets gone over with a fine tooth comb, they are going to miss some stuff, but again the washer/dryer and no lack of food after 3+ years makes me wonder.On #3, I think it has been around 3-4 years. He said he was on the island for 3 years and at the time of meeting Jack he said he was training to go around the world and I would assume that he would have started and hit the island within a year. I do think that since this may have been one of his last encounters with anyone other than Kelvin, he would definitely remember it because of what happened and the discussion. I think I would have remembered it and then recognized someone that was looking at me like I was a ghost. Also, if Jack remembers him then we can take a leap of faith that he would recognize Jack. Then again, he might have just been a Party of Five fan, it was on longer than 4 years ago, I think.

I wish I had Tivo'd the show about the Kelvin stuff, and I will on Saturday night, because I thought Desmond mentioned Kelvin having a partner that either died right before or right after Desmond got there. If Kelvin had a partner, I could see him exploring a bit with a partner so he might wander outside every once in a while and thus know how far he can go and still get back in time. Kelvin also might have been more in the know, so he might have been alerted to Desmond somehow. I think Desmond got tricked, more similar to our survivors now that Desmond is gone.

 

[yahtzee]

52 pages and still, the greatest of unsolved mysteries remains unsolved. 44 days on an island with ample time to burn, so who's banging Kate?

best mystery of the show. She is smoooooooooooooookin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PC Load Letter]

Athanasius Kircher's Magnets, Numbers and Islands

And possible ties to Atlantis. Just because you can't get enough of this stuff.

Point to the shirt.

 

[jplvr]

Page 5?

 

[PC Load Letter]

Just saw an awesome commercial during Extreme Makeover ( ). Looks like the LOTF crew has there own fallout shelter (Another Dharma bunker?)

 

[stbugs]

Just saw an awesome commercial during Extreme Makeover ( ).  Looks like the LOTF crew has there own fallout shelter (Another Dharma bunker?)

Not dissing you, but you want to put that in a SPOILER quote. I haven't seen the promo yet and others might not have either. In fact, I am trying to avoid them now since ABC seems a little loose with their promo videos and pics.Damnit, I just went through Saturday night's version (couldn't Tivo Wednesday) and they had that promo on. It was different on Wednesday and that ticks me off because I am convinced that it wasn't Rose in the hatch with Hurley looking at the food and now I have to wait until it actually airs. Not trying to offend TIA, but Rose was a bigger woman with a darker complexion and the lady in the hatch seemed fairer in complexion. I just hope they didn't replace her, because I remember reading that Rose was doing some play and didn't have time for Lost in season 2, probably because she had such a small role.

Anyway, the new commercial had this:

They walk Sawyer, Jin and Michael into a door concealed a bit by the jungle. It appears that they are friendly to them so obviously they all figured out that they were on the plane. They asked the blonde girl (from Drew Carey and Titus - man was she way hotter in those shows) "I thought you said that there were 23 of you?" and she replied "There were." I think this puts the wodnering why they were on the defensive, etc. to rest. They definitely (in the promo) appear to be the tail enders, with the possible addition of a drug smuggler if those rumors are correct and they definitely have there own hatch so it is quite possibly another Dharma station.

Edit: Sorry forgot the white.

 

[TheLaw]

Ok - this thread is ot of control. I missed the first 20 minutes or so - can I get the Cliff's Notes??

 

[PC Load Letter]

It was different on Wednesday and that ticks me off because I am convinced that it wasn't Rose

It's still on my tivo for my gf and it is DEFINATELY the old Rose, so you don't need to worry about a replacement.

 

[prosopis]

 

[stbugs]

It was different on Wednesday and that ticks me off because I am convinced that it wasn't Rose

It's still on my tivo for my gf and it is DEFINATELY the old Rose, so you don't need to worry about a replacement.

I still have to see it for myself on Tivo. I may be wrong, as I have been before, but I just remember wondering who that was in the food room and I remember the producers saying that she wasn't in season 2 because of her commitments seeing as a full time gig is more important to her revenue stream than what she probably gets for her one or two lines every 3 or 4 episodes.Anyway, I am too anal to not see it for myself. I probably can't Tivo it again this Wednesday, but I will watch the Rose one again and try to compare it. With my luck, that preview shot won't even been in the real episode.

 

[jplvr]

Don't know if it was ever posted, but a clear picture of the Dharma symbol on the shark's tale:

http://www.thetailsection.com/images/shark_tail.jpg

 

[miphin]

Anyway, the new commercial had this:

They walk Sawyer, Jin and Michael into a door concealed a bit by the jungle. It appears that they are friendly to them so obviously they all figured out that they were on the plane. They asked the blonde girl (from Drew Carey and Titus - man was she way hotter in those shows) "I thought you said that there were 23 of you?" and she replied "There were." I think this puts the wodnering why they were on the defensive, etc. to rest. They definitely (in the promo) appear to be the tail enders, with the possible addition of a drug smuggler if those rumors are correct and they definitely have there own hatch so it is quite possibly another Dharma station.

Edit: Sorry forgot the white.

My wife screwed up our Tivo last week, so I missed the orignal airing of the show. I finally saw the replay last night. So I have been avoiding this thread for the last few days so things weren't ruined for me. It seems some of my earlier speculations were fairly accurate (The identity of the LOTF gang and Ana Lucia being a plant in the hole, also for Desmond being down their only a few years. Anyway now I must share some of my more recent observations:1. Everyone keeps saying that Walt has these mysterious powers and therefore he is a target for the others. Now we as the audience have seen some of his peculiar actions. But, from what I can remember no one else has indicated that the kid is weird, including his dad. Therefore, how can he be a target (other than being a child) if no one in the 'Lost' world knows that he really is a weirdo?

2. Since someone already mentioned this spoiler I will not bother hiding it...but I hypothesize that all these supposed hatches are or once were connected. As we saw in the spoiler the LOTF gang had their own bunker/hatch. And if I remember correctly part of Desmond's bunker had a wall that was caved in/boarded up to perhaps protect the occupants from the others. I suspect that we will see these tied together eventually.

3. Also, I was curious on another point. When Desmond first confronts Locke and asks him 'Are you the one?' At first Locke has him believing that he is the one until Locke says that Kate is with him. Now at first we assumed that Desmond was checking to see if Locke was a replacement, if this is the case then it would make sense that there are the two of them, yet Desmond completely writes off the fact that Kate could be a replacement and therefore knows that Locke is lying. So that leads me to believe that either Desmond believes that women cannot handle the job or he was expecting somebody else. Degroot maybe? Locke's age perhaps would allow for this Desmond to believe that he is Degroot but again why would Kate's appearance disrupt this theory as well? And why would he be expecting Degroot?

4. Spoiler alert..............Kate stepping out of the shower yowzers! Lets hope there is more to the sceen then was shown.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

Anyway, the new commercial had this:

They walk Sawyer, Jin and Michael into a door concealed a bit by the jungle. It appears that they are friendly to them so obviously they all figured out that they were on the plane. They asked the blonde girl (from Drew Carey and Titus - man was she way hotter in those shows) "I thought you said that there were 23 of you?" and she replied "There were." I think this puts the wodnering why they were on the defensive, etc. to rest. They definitely (in the promo) appear to be the tail enders, with the possible addition of a drug smuggler if those rumors are correct and they definitely have there own hatch so it is quite possibly another Dharma station.

Edit: Sorry forgot the white.

3. Also, I was curious on another point. When Desmond first confronts Locke and asks him 'Are you the one?' At first Locke has him believing that he is the one until Locke says that Kate is with him. Now at first we assumed that Desmond was checking to see if Locke was a replacement, if this is the case then it would make sense that there are the two of them, yet Desmond completely writes off the fact that Kate could be a replacement and therefore knows that Locke is lying. So that leads me to believe that either Desmond believes that women cannot handle the job or he was expecting somebody else. Degroot maybe? Locke's age perhaps would allow for this Desmond to believe that he is Degroot but again why would Kate's appearance disrupt this theory as well? And why would he be expecting Degroot?

Desmond accepted that Kate could be with him. He then asked the Snowman riddle, which Locke didn't answer (What did one Snowman say to the other snowman?). THEN Desmond knew he wasn't the replacement. Nothing to do with Kate being with him.

 

[miphin]

Anyway, the new commercial had this:

They walk Sawyer, Jin and Michael into a door concealed a bit by the jungle. It appears that they are friendly to them so obviously they all figured out that they were on the plane. They asked the blonde girl (from Drew Carey and Titus - man was she way hotter in those shows) "I thought you said that there were 23 of you?" and she replied "There were." I think this puts the wodnering why they were on the defensive, etc. to rest. They definitely (in the promo) appear to be the tail enders, with the possible addition of a drug smuggler if those rumors are correct and they definitely have there own hatch so it is quite possibly another Dharma station.

Edit: Sorry forgot the white.

3. Also, I was curious on another point. When Desmond first confronts Locke and asks him 'Are you the one?' At first Locke has him believing that he is the one until Locke says that Kate is with him. Now at first we assumed that Desmond was checking to see if Locke was a replacement, if this is the case then it would make sense that there are the two of them, yet Desmond completely writes off the fact that Kate could be a replacement and therefore knows that Locke is lying. So that leads me to believe that either Desmond believes that women cannot handle the job or he was expecting somebody else. Degroot maybe? Locke's age perhaps would allow for this Desmond to believe that he is Degroot but again why would Kate's appearance disrupt this theory as well? And why would he be expecting Degroot?

Desmond accepted that Kate could be with him. He then asked the Snowman riddle, which Locke didn't answer (What did one Snowman say to the other snowman?). THEN Desmond knew he wasn't the replacement. Nothing to do with Kate being with him.

Sorry must have had a brain fart, for some reason I completely forgot about that scene. I guess that answers that question. I guess I am guilty of overanalyzing now myself. Thanks.

 

[GStrot]

My thoughts, didn't care for last nights episode for some of the reasons already stated and the fact that Jack, after discovering someone he had a brief encounter with 3 years prior also on a remote Pacific island, simply lets him walk off into the jungle. WTF? Watch the movie, cool, I'm outta here, see ya in another life brotha. How in the hell do you let that guy just walk off?

Disappointed to say the least.

What was he gonna do?Shoot him?

I thought Jack was a total ### hole last night.

I agree with this guy. I am starting to dislike Jack.

 

[GStrot]

Also, Locke's father didn't say that he has conned other people, but he did say, "Do you think you're the first person that got conned?"  Could he be the real Sawyer?  I think it's a longshot, but an interesting reference.

I think this is a TREMENDOUS pull by jplvr.This never occured to me, but as we see them showing characters overlapping, this one makes perfect sense.

May turn out to be nothing.....but I don't think so. I think Sawyer turns out to be Locke's dad. They also use a pretty well known actor to play this role, which leads me to think he'll be more prominent down the road.

good point. bad avatar.

 

[caabeel]

Anyway, the new commercial had this:

They walk Sawyer, Jin and Michael into a door concealed a bit by the jungle. It appears that they are friendly to them so obviously they all figured out that they were on the plane. They asked the blonde girl (from Drew Carey and Titus - man was she way hotter in those shows) "I thought you said that there were 23 of you?" and she replied "There were." I think this puts the wodnering why they were on the defensive, etc. to rest. They definitely (in the promo) appear to be the tail enders, with the possible addition of a drug smuggler if those rumors are correct and they definitely have there own hatch so it is quite possibly another Dharma station.

Edit: Sorry forgot the white.

3. Also, I was curious on another point. When Desmond first confronts Locke and asks him 'Are you the one?' At first Locke has him believing that he is the one until Locke says that Kate is with him. Now at first we assumed that Desmond was checking to see if Locke was a replacement, if this is the case then it would make sense that there are the two of them, yet Desmond completely writes off the fact that Kate could be a replacement and therefore knows that Locke is lying. So that leads me to believe that either Desmond believes that women cannot handle the job or he was expecting somebody else. Degroot maybe? Locke's age perhaps would allow for this Desmond to believe that he is Degroot but again why would Kate's appearance disrupt this theory as well? And why would he be expecting Degroot?

Desmond accepted that Kate could be with him. He then asked the Snowman riddle, which Locke didn't answer (What did one Snowman say to the other snowman?). THEN Desmond knew he wasn't the replacement. Nothing to do with Kate being with him.

Kate being with him is what prompted the question.

 

[GStrot]

Information on The Third Policeman - Bolding, compliments of me.

Link

The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien

By no means recently published, Flann O’Brien’s The Third Policeman will, nevertheless, be perpetually new. The literary equivalent of a Tesla invention, The Third Policeman is an astonishingly great book that is so intricate, so improbably effective, that one cannot tell, merely by looking, what makes it tick. The story is a strange dream-journey that at times is so substantial that the reader will find himself double-checking the thickness of the book itself, amazed that the whole thing fits in so slim a volume. If anything, the book presents a problem in that it leaves a reviewer with little to say, beyond a couple paragraphs of repetitive praise.

In The Third Policeman, our hero and narrator, a nameless young man with a wooden leg, assists in a money-motivated killing, and, after trying to retrieve the stashed goods some time later, passes into a strange otherness -- a place that superficially resembles the Irish countryside, but which casually disobeys the normal laws of How Things Work. He encounters a small building of impermanent and shifting geometry which turns out to be the local barracks -- it is here that he meets the policemen. The novel has that special quality -- the fantastic made believable, yet retaining its power to amaze -- that is the hallmark of authors like Borges, Kafka, or Barthelme. The events are alternately frightening, baffling, and hilarious, and are brought into three dimensions by perfect, musical prose.

Much of the book’s humor comes from references to the fictional physicist ‘de Selby’, a sort of anti-Newton whose completely absurd theories sound almost plausible in the framework of the novel’s demonic logic. De Selby, noting that light takes a portion of time, however small, to reach its target, came upon the idea that if a network of mirrors were aligned properly a viewer could actually see into the past through a series of repeated reflections:

“What he states to have seen through his glass is astonishing. He claims to have noticed a growing youthfulness in the reflections of his face according as they receded, the most distant of them -- being the face of a beardless boy of twelve, and, to use his own words, ‘a countenance of singular beauty and nobility’.”

Among de Selby’s other arguments are the existence of night as passing clouds of black, volcanically produced pollution; the idea that all names originate from descriptive, prehistoric grunts (and that by decoding this system of grunts, one could ascertain another’s appearance merely by studying their name); the possibility that the Earth is not a sphere, but an ovoid; and the nature of sleep as a series of minor heart attacks (brought on by exposure to the black air).

But de Selby is merely a side story. The main of the book is devoted to the solution of our young hero’s mystery, and to the further mystery of the bizarre policemen which populate the world he has wandered into. The policemen speak in an infectious, over-wrought dialogue that you’ll have to take care not to pick up yourself. They invent devices that turn noise into electricity. They take gauge readings in a subterranean, industrial version of eternity. I don’t want to delve too far into this storyline, rather I urge you to discover it for yourself. You’ll never ride a bicycle again.

What?!?

 

[Sack-Religious.]

Information on The Third Policeman You’ll never ride a bicycle again.

What?!?

I don't know man. I just cut and paste what was in the link, into the thread. I'm guessing we'd understand if we read the book.

 

[(HULK)]

Holy Snikes!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/

If you look at this actor's IMDB page under guest appearances, it sheds some serious light on LOST. Don't look if you don't like spoilers, because this one is pretty large.

 

[Buckychudd]

Holy Snikes!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/

If you look at this actor's IMDB page under guest appearances, it sheds some serious light on LOST. Don't look if you don't like spoilers, because this one is pretty large.

 

[Paper Lions]

Holy Snikes!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/

If you look at this actor's IMDB page under guest appearances, it sheds some serious light on LOST.  Don't look if you don't like spoilers, because this one is pretty large.

Could be a lot of different things, no?edit: forget it. I get it now.

 

[bryhamm]

Holy Snikes!

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0301370/

If you look at this actor's IMDB page under guest appearances, it sheds some serious light on LOST.  Don't look if you don't like spoilers, because this one is pretty large.

double Of course, IMDB has had misleading info in the past cough: samjackson :cough