If the Dolphins stumble early or get eliminated from the playoffs with more than a couple of games left in the season, I would expect them to throw Henne in there. Only scenario I can see in which Henne doesn't get playing time this season is if their offense is absolutely on fire all year.
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Gatorman
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I agree. HOWEVER, it would need to be from a point where Pennington was not the cause of the problem (ie: it not look like a benching). The dolphins want penny back in 2010 to be the backup to Henne being the starter. Not sure if he will go for it, but if they "bench" him, I think it will not happen.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
This is a double edged dword for Miami...almost no doubt in my mind that Chad Henne will be the next great QB for Miami...maybe even take his place amogst guys like Bob Griese and Dan Marino from a leadership position. I just love that the kid jumped on the plane with Bill Parcells and said let's go!!! To me, it shows some serious maturity and it also lays the foundation for a guy that seems eager to learn all aspects of the NFL...not sure you can ask for much more than that. I like Pennington but I think the upside of Henne could be a lot higher than that of Penny...that is not a knock on CP at all...in fact Phinsfnas should love this guy forver for leading a talentless WR corp and going 11-5 last year...he should be able to parlay that into a starting job. He is better than at least 12-14 starting QBs in the NFL right now. NYJ, Buff, TN, Jax, Oak, Wash, Chi, Det, MN, TB, SF...I think he is better than almost all of the starting QBs on those teams alone and perhaps more. Unless he is a total disaster he will start in the NFL for the next 4-5 years. And he doesn't ##### about much...you can't put a price on that IMO.Gatorman said:
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Nice article to generate discussion...
sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/miami-dolphins-offseason-s033009,0,6764129.story
South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
10 Miami Dolphins to keep an eye on this offseason
By Omar Kelly
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
1:21 PM EDT, March 30, 2009
The Miami Dolphins began the "voluntary" offseason conditioning program today, starting the journey to getting coach Tony Sparano's players in peak shape for the 2009 season.
While the weightlifting and conditioning drills are optional, the Dolphins expect its Davie facility to be crowded with participants.
"Around here voluntary isn't really voluntary, but we saw how much the offseason program paid off last year," said one Dolphin, who points out the team's usually barren injury report in 2008. "We know the impact it had on our bodies, and the team's success."
Here is a list of 10 Dolphins that need a big offseason because they have plenty to prove in 2009.
Cornerback Jason Allen -- This is likely the former first-round pick's last chance to prove he can be a starter in the NFL. It should help that he's finally stopped switching from cornerback and safety. At least we think.
Outside linebacker Cameron Wake -- The B.C. Lions' sack master could be the best litmus test for the caliber of football played north of the border. Wake may be the best CFL-to-NFL import since Doug Flutie. But will Wake, who registered 39 sacks the past two seasons in Canada, learn fast enough to blossom into the Dolphins' newest pass rushing threat?
Receiver Ted Ginn Jr. -- NFL receivers usually show what they will be by their third season. So far Ginn has been a decent decoy, but does he have the skill set, and desire to become the Dolphins' true No. 1 wideout? Can and will Ginn become a crisper route runner?
Outside linebacker Matt Roth -- The converted defensive end showed promise in his first season as a starting outside linebacker in the Dolphins' 3-4 scheme, contributing 56 tackles, five sacks and two forced fumbles. But will Roth take the next step forward, keeping his starting spot?
Defensive end Phillip Merling -- Vonnie Holliday's release means the door has been opened for last year's 32nd pick to become a full-time starter. But can Merling polish up his pass rushing skills enough to hold off Randy Starks, whose strong play as a reserve last season warrants a starting spot?
Receiver Ernest Wilford -- If it wasn't for the $7 million financial commitment that's already been made last year's free agent addition would likely have been cut already based on last year's meager contributions. Wilford must use the OTA's and minicamp practices to prove he still has a stellar work ethic, and the ability to create separation from defensive backs.
Defensive tackle Paul Soliai -- At times last season the Dolphins' backup nose tackle showed the light might be coming on. Then there were instances where his weight battles got him suspended, and benched. Will Soliai prove he's Jason Ferguson's eventual replacement by getting in better shape?
Receiver Brandon London -- This second-year pro has the size, speed and toughness to become a productive NFL receiver. But does he have the work ethic and commitment needed to take his game to the next level? London's OTA and training camp performances could cement him into the three-receiver set.
Outside linebacker Charlie Anderson -- At times Anderson flashed the speed and athleticism needed to become a pass rushing specialist. But he lacked consistency. Anderson needs to hustle to avoid becoming the forgotten man, considering all the outside linebacker projects the Dolphins will test out this offseason.
Offensive guard Shawn Murphy -- Last year's fourth-round pick is in line to become the biggest bust of the 2008 draft class, considering every lineman the Dolphins picked up off the street played ahead of him. Murphy wasn't activated for one game because of technique issues. He'll need to clean them up if he's going to make the 2009 roster.
sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/miami-dolphins-offseason-s033009,0,6764129.story
South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
10 Miami Dolphins to keep an eye on this offseason
By Omar Kelly
South Florida Sun-Sentinel
1:21 PM EDT, March 30, 2009
The Miami Dolphins began the "voluntary" offseason conditioning program today, starting the journey to getting coach Tony Sparano's players in peak shape for the 2009 season.
While the weightlifting and conditioning drills are optional, the Dolphins expect its Davie facility to be crowded with participants.
"Around here voluntary isn't really voluntary, but we saw how much the offseason program paid off last year," said one Dolphin, who points out the team's usually barren injury report in 2008. "We know the impact it had on our bodies, and the team's success."
Here is a list of 10 Dolphins that need a big offseason because they have plenty to prove in 2009.
Cornerback Jason Allen -- This is likely the former first-round pick's last chance to prove he can be a starter in the NFL. It should help that he's finally stopped switching from cornerback and safety. At least we think.
Outside linebacker Cameron Wake -- The B.C. Lions' sack master could be the best litmus test for the caliber of football played north of the border. Wake may be the best CFL-to-NFL import since Doug Flutie. But will Wake, who registered 39 sacks the past two seasons in Canada, learn fast enough to blossom into the Dolphins' newest pass rushing threat?
Receiver Ted Ginn Jr. -- NFL receivers usually show what they will be by their third season. So far Ginn has been a decent decoy, but does he have the skill set, and desire to become the Dolphins' true No. 1 wideout? Can and will Ginn become a crisper route runner?
Outside linebacker Matt Roth -- The converted defensive end showed promise in his first season as a starting outside linebacker in the Dolphins' 3-4 scheme, contributing 56 tackles, five sacks and two forced fumbles. But will Roth take the next step forward, keeping his starting spot?
Defensive end Phillip Merling -- Vonnie Holliday's release means the door has been opened for last year's 32nd pick to become a full-time starter. But can Merling polish up his pass rushing skills enough to hold off Randy Starks, whose strong play as a reserve last season warrants a starting spot?
Receiver Ernest Wilford -- If it wasn't for the $7 million financial commitment that's already been made last year's free agent addition would likely have been cut already based on last year's meager contributions. Wilford must use the OTA's and minicamp practices to prove he still has a stellar work ethic, and the ability to create separation from defensive backs.
Defensive tackle Paul Soliai -- At times last season the Dolphins' backup nose tackle showed the light might be coming on. Then there were instances where his weight battles got him suspended, and benched. Will Soliai prove he's Jason Ferguson's eventual replacement by getting in better shape?
Receiver Brandon London -- This second-year pro has the size, speed and toughness to become a productive NFL receiver. But does he have the work ethic and commitment needed to take his game to the next level? London's OTA and training camp performances could cement him into the three-receiver set.
Outside linebacker Charlie Anderson -- At times Anderson flashed the speed and athleticism needed to become a pass rushing specialist. But he lacked consistency. Anderson needs to hustle to avoid becoming the forgotten man, considering all the outside linebacker projects the Dolphins will test out this offseason.
Offensive guard Shawn Murphy -- Last year's fourth-round pick is in line to become the biggest bust of the 2008 draft class, considering every lineman the Dolphins picked up off the street played ahead of him. Murphy wasn't activated for one game because of technique issues. He'll need to clean them up if he's going to make the 2009 roster.
Wilford---Uhhhg, what a wasted signing. No way he's on the roster opening day. Ginn-I still like the guy. He made some nice plays last year & definitely showed progress to me. If he was picked at #10 instead of #9 (and Shefter reported that Houston was about to grab him there) his production would be much better by now. Wake-Very curious to see what this guy does because youth at OLB is obviously a big need for Miami. I wonder if any other CFL pass rushers have made any good transitions to the NFL? On the OLB note...what are thoughs about Taylor maybe coming back to Miami? Man it pains me to imagine #99 playing for New England.
Gatorman
Supreme Elite Maximum Tier
Well you better get used to it. Miami has a certain set of conditions for their players: Namely, that they attend the offseason workouts. Taylor seems like a guy who is going to sign after the draft right before training camp starts or just after so he can keep up the hollywood dream. That leaves out Miami and says hello to New England.The only reason JT will come to Miami is if he wants to stay with his family b/c they are still in south florida, and for that, he could play for tampa and fly home for 2 days every week.Jail said:
Yeah, I realize that is the likely destination, but you never know. I thought the same would happen to Thomas last year, but he ended up in Dallas. Armando Salguero says there is still a chance for Miami, but I agree with you. I'd like to see him back in Miami though.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Saw this on PFT. I woudl love to see Boldin in Miami. He is a far better bet than anyone we can get at 25 (Britt, Nicks, DHB, Harvin), and clearly worth a first rounder, although it will ikely take a bit more to get him.
I could live with giving up our 1st, the early 4th we got from the Raiders, and a player with marginal value like Wilford or Ricky. Still not sure thats enough, but it might be...
Boldin Would “Love” To Play For Dolphins
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 2, 2009, 4:37 p.m. EDT
Arizona Cardinals star wide receiver Anquan Boldin expressed a desire to play for the Miami Dolphins, enthusiastically endorsing the idea of returing to his home state via a trade during an interview with ESPN Radio 760 in Palm Beach, according to Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald.
When asked if he would like to play for the Dolphins, Boldin replied: “I would love to. You know, I’m a Florida guy, always will be a Florida guy at heart. If it happens, I’ll definitely be grateful.”
Of course, the Cardinals are expected to drive a hard bargain if they ever decide to entertain trade scenarios for Boldin.
At this point, Boldin considers his future to be uncertain.
“Honestly, I don’t know,” Boldin said. “It’s at a point right now where there’s not any discussion between myself and the team. When something does happen, I’ll let my agent take care it.
“I guess he’ll converse with the GM or management. It’s a tough situation and you definitely don’t want this hanging over your head going into another season, especially it being a couple of years past due.”
I could live with giving up our 1st, the early 4th we got from the Raiders, and a player with marginal value like Wilford or Ricky. Still not sure thats enough, but it might be...
Boldin Would “Love” To Play For Dolphins
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 2, 2009, 4:37 p.m. EDT
Arizona Cardinals star wide receiver Anquan Boldin expressed a desire to play for the Miami Dolphins, enthusiastically endorsing the idea of returing to his home state via a trade during an interview with ESPN Radio 760 in Palm Beach, according to Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald.
When asked if he would like to play for the Dolphins, Boldin replied: “I would love to. You know, I’m a Florida guy, always will be a Florida guy at heart. If it happens, I’ll definitely be grateful.”
Of course, the Cardinals are expected to drive a hard bargain if they ever decide to entertain trade scenarios for Boldin.
At this point, Boldin considers his future to be uncertain.
“Honestly, I don’t know,” Boldin said. “It’s at a point right now where there’s not any discussion between myself and the team. When something does happen, I’ll let my agent take care it.
“I guess he’ll converse with the GM or management. It’s a tough situation and you definitely don’t want this hanging over your head going into another season, especially it being a couple of years past due.”
So, thoughts on the schedule?
4 primetime games are nice.
I guess considering we already knew it would be the toughest in the NFL they got lucky on some of the scheduling. No obvious cold weather games, although with the new regime I don't think that will be as bad as it used to be. 3 home games with that hot, humid home advantage. Still, is it just me or will we be lucky to see 8 wins?
2008 Regular Season Schedule
Date Opponent Time* TV
Sept. 13 at Atlanta Falcons 1:00 p.m. CBS
SEPT. 21 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS 8:30 P.M. ESPN
Sept. 27 at San Diego Chargers 4:15 p.m. CBS
OCT. 4 BUFFALO BILLS 4:05 P.M. CBS
OCT. 12 NEW YORK JETS 8:30 P.M. ESPN
Oct. 18 Bye Weekend
OCT. 25 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 4:15 P.M. FOX
Nov. 1 at New York Jets 1:00 p.m. CBS
Nov. 8 at New England Patriots 1:00 p.m. CBS
NOV. 15 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS 1:00 P.M. FOX
Nov. 19 at Carolina Panthers 8:20 p.m. NFLN
Nov. 29 at Buffalo Bills# 1:00 p.m. CBS
DEC. 6 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS# 8:20 P.M. NBC
Dec. 13 at Jacksonville Jaguars# 1:00 p.m. CBS
Dec. 20 at Tennessee Titans# 1:00 p.m. CBS
DEC. 27 HOUSTON TEXANS# 1:00 P.M. CBS
JAN. 3 PITTSBURGH STEELERS# 1:00 P.M. CBS
4 primetime games are nice.
I guess considering we already knew it would be the toughest in the NFL they got lucky on some of the scheduling. No obvious cold weather games, although with the new regime I don't think that will be as bad as it used to be. 3 home games with that hot, humid home advantage. Still, is it just me or will we be lucky to see 8 wins?
2008 Regular Season Schedule
Date Opponent Time* TV
Sept. 13 at Atlanta Falcons 1:00 p.m. CBS
SEPT. 21 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS 8:30 P.M. ESPN
Sept. 27 at San Diego Chargers 4:15 p.m. CBS
OCT. 4 BUFFALO BILLS 4:05 P.M. CBS
OCT. 12 NEW YORK JETS 8:30 P.M. ESPN
Oct. 18 Bye Weekend
OCT. 25 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS 4:15 P.M. FOX
Nov. 1 at New York Jets 1:00 p.m. CBS
Nov. 8 at New England Patriots 1:00 p.m. CBS
NOV. 15 TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS 1:00 P.M. FOX
Nov. 19 at Carolina Panthers 8:20 p.m. NFLN
Nov. 29 at Buffalo Bills# 1:00 p.m. CBS
DEC. 6 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS# 8:20 P.M. NBC
Dec. 13 at Jacksonville Jaguars# 1:00 p.m. CBS
Dec. 20 at Tennessee Titans# 1:00 p.m. CBS
DEC. 27 HOUSTON TEXANS# 1:00 P.M. CBS
JAN. 3 PITTSBURGH STEELERS# 1:00 P.M. CBS
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Going from bad to worse in Miami pretty quick.
Chad Henne, who was supposed to be the first competent QB in Miami since that 62-7 game in Jacksonville gets benched for a guy who we all think is a great guy, and a solid QB, but represents nothing for their future aside from maybe a coaching gig. Pennington should have represented a greater threat to Dan Henning than to Chad Henne. I guess we will need to draft a QB in April. Fortunately, we will likely have an early enough pick to grab a good one. Henne becomes the most recent in a long, long line of wasted second round picks. Right behind Pat White, John Beck, Daunte Culpepper, and AJ Feely. We treat our second round picks like Minnesota treats their 3rd rounders. Yet, the Packers and Eagles seem to breed QBs faster than a slutty stray calico cat. Can we get someone from their front office instead of all of the Dallas guys? That formula isnt working..for anyone.
On the same day, former first rounder Jason Allen - who had started and played well for the first 3-4 games is cut for a 36 year old CB coming off a major injury. Really? We couldn't find a spot for him as a special teamer, or as a 4th CB? He is good enough to start a month ago, and now he is not even good enough to play on kick coverage or in the dime? If he is that bad, how was he good enough to start for us a month ago, ahead of a promising second year player (Sean Smith).
We could have had Randy Moss and not given up any picks or players. Think that may have helped Henne? Maybe it would have eliminated all of those double teams on Marshall so that we could get at least some of our $10M worth on him? All we had to do was let him pick the caterer, and all would have been well.
This team stinks. So does the entire coaching staff, and front office. I am sooooo sick of stinking.
Chad Henne, who was supposed to be the first competent QB in Miami since that 62-7 game in Jacksonville gets benched for a guy who we all think is a great guy, and a solid QB, but represents nothing for their future aside from maybe a coaching gig. Pennington should have represented a greater threat to Dan Henning than to Chad Henne. I guess we will need to draft a QB in April. Fortunately, we will likely have an early enough pick to grab a good one. Henne becomes the most recent in a long, long line of wasted second round picks. Right behind Pat White, John Beck, Daunte Culpepper, and AJ Feely. We treat our second round picks like Minnesota treats their 3rd rounders. Yet, the Packers and Eagles seem to breed QBs faster than a slutty stray calico cat. Can we get someone from their front office instead of all of the Dallas guys? That formula isnt working..for anyone.
On the same day, former first rounder Jason Allen - who had started and played well for the first 3-4 games is cut for a 36 year old CB coming off a major injury. Really? We couldn't find a spot for him as a special teamer, or as a 4th CB? He is good enough to start a month ago, and now he is not even good enough to play on kick coverage or in the dime? If he is that bad, how was he good enough to start for us a month ago, ahead of a promising second year player (Sean Smith).
We could have had Randy Moss and not given up any picks or players. Think that may have helped Henne? Maybe it would have eliminated all of those double teams on Marshall so that we could get at least some of our $10M worth on him? All we had to do was let him pick the caterer, and all would have been well.
This team stinks. So does the entire coaching staff, and front office. I am sooooo sick of stinking.
