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*** OFFICIAL*** Minnesota Vikings offseason thread (3 Viewers)

Got a bad feeling about all this trade down talk. Yeah we have alot of holes to fill but I really believe we have to come away from this draft with Kalil, RG3, Blackmon, or Claiborne and if we go down to #6 where the Redskins are then I think we miss on all 4. Yeah we pick up some picks but seriously after the 1st Round Spielman sucks badly. I think there are 6 superstars in this draft and Luck and Richardson are out because of availability or need so we need 1 of the other 4 I mentioned earlier. Now if we could drop to #4 where Cleveland swaps with us and pickup some picks I would love that but I keep hearing that Daniel Snyder is hell bent on trading up for RG3. What are your guys thoughts on how far is too far to move back and still get a great player?
:shrug: It is hard to say until we see how active they are in the FA market. Hopefully they go out and sign a top FA WR.. Maybe sign one or two CB/Safety who may not be "Stars" but better than what we have..After we see where they are after FA then it will be easier to decide if i think they can afford to drop down to say #6 or need to stick where they are.. :popcorn:
 
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Yeah a free agent WR to go with Harvin is a must. Also really hoping for 1 of the stud OG's and 2 new safeties. I really think they go all out this free agent period to put a good team together.

 
I just hope I'm wrong about Spielman and Frazier. I hope they both prove to be diamonds in the rough and produce a team that can win consistently over the next decade, including a few super bowls. Just not feeling it.

 
It's really difficult to tell at this point. We could go look at Packer threads from 4 years ago and you'd be amazed at their vitriol for McCarthy and Ted Thompson. It takes some time for a system to get in place, but hopefully we'll see at least some progress towards improvement this year or I think most Vikings fans will write them off.

 
It's really difficult to tell at this point. We could go look at Packer threads from 4 years ago and you'd be amazed at their vitriol for McCarthy and Ted Thompson. It takes some time for a system to get in place, but hopefully we'll see at least some progress towards improvement this year or I think most Vikings fans will write them off.
Not me. Im no ####### Urbanhack..
 
I don't think they'll do much in free agency w/o a stadium deal.
Looks like that won't be an issue.Stadium deal done

Only a preliminary deal and it still needs to be approved by city council and state legislature, but I believe that'll happen this time, unlike the Arden Hills deal last year.

 
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Nice!

Now, if they can just make sure to build a decent stadium and not another repeat of the Metrodome - which people hated before it even opened. I don't want to hear the Vikings clamoring for another stadium for at least another 30 years.

 
I really like what has happened at the combine...some WRs hurting their stock may push a good WR to the first part of the 2nd round and maybe even get a good prospect at the beginning of the third. Stephen Hill would be a great complement to Percy, if they can grab him in the 3rd (maybe not anymore though). Kalil should be there at three and then CB/WR in the 2nd and 3rd...wouldn't be bad at all.

 
'FunkyPlutos said:
I really like what has happened at the combine...some WRs hurting their stock may push a good WR to the first part of the 2nd round and maybe even get a good prospect at the beginning of the third. Stephen Hill would be a great complement to Percy, if they can grab him in the 3rd (maybe not anymore though). Kalil should be there at three and then CB/WR in the 2nd and 3rd...wouldn't be bad at all.
Agree 100%. :goodposting:
 
'FunkyPlutos said:
I really like what has happened at the combine...some WRs hurting their stock may push a good WR to the first part of the 2nd round and maybe even get a good prospect at the beginning of the third. Stephen Hill would be a great complement to Percy, if they can grab him in the 3rd (maybe not anymore though). Kalil should be there at three and then CB/WR in the 2nd and 3rd...wouldn't be bad at all.
So is it a given that the Rams will pass on Kalil or trade the pick and Vikes will really get a LT for hopefully the next 10 to 12 years?
 
'FunkyPlutos said:
I really like what has happened at the combine...some WRs hurting their stock may push a good WR to the first part of the 2nd round and maybe even get a good prospect at the beginning of the third. Stephen Hill would be a great complement to Percy, if they can grab him in the 3rd (maybe not anymore though). Kalil should be there at three and then CB/WR in the 2nd and 3rd...wouldn't be bad at all.
So is it a given that the Rams will pass on Kalil or trade the pick and Vikes will really get a LT for hopefully the next 10 to 12 years?
If the Rams take Kali, the Vikings will trade down.. for the right price of course or take RGIII.. There is no way one of the teams below the Vikings don't try to outmaneuver the other one to get RGIII. :popcorn:
 
'FunkyPlutos said:
I really like what has happened at the combine...some WRs hurting their stock may push a good WR to the first part of the 2nd round and maybe even get a good prospect at the beginning of the third. Stephen Hill would be a great complement to Percy, if they can grab him in the 3rd (maybe not anymore though). Kalil should be there at three and then CB/WR in the 2nd and 3rd...wouldn't be bad at all.
So is it a given that the Rams will pass on Kalil or trade the pick and Vikes will really get a LT for hopefully the next 10 to 12 years?
Good point...but if they don't get a shot at Kalil, I am assuming that they will be able to trade down and pick up Reiff and additional picks, which would be an even better scenario.
 
Nobody wants Blackmon at 3? I dont get it, he looks awesome. Go O-Line in the second and then defense. Free agency for another WR and CB. :shrug:

 
Nobody wants Blackmon at 3? I dont get it, he looks awesome. Go O-Line in the second and then defense. Free agency for another WR and CB. :shrug:
Imo.. Kali, RGIII, Blackmon.. thinking it will be Kali, but if the Rams take him and they can't get a Great deal to trade down they can't pass up RGIII. :popcorn:
 
The Vikings need to take Kalil. If St. Louis somehow loses their mind and doesn't trade down and they take Kalil, then the Vikings will be dancing in the war room. But if things play out as they should, then there is no reason, outside of a Herschel Walker "we'll give you three SB titles" trade being available, to pass on Kalil. He was the best LT in recent memory on the field and was far more athletic at the combine than any other tackle this year. He cemented his status as a top 3 pick.

 
Adam Schefter and other reporters are talking like the Rams trading the #2 for RGIII is a forgone conclusion. I will be very pleased if Vikings secures Kalil because of it.

Any predictions on who the Vikings will take at 2.03? I want to see the DBs run tomorrow before I make mine.

 
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Adam Schefter and other reporters are talking like the Rams trading the #2 for RGIII is a forgone conclusion. I will be very pleased if Vikings secures Kalil because of it. Any predictions on who the Vikings will take at 2.03? I want to see the DBs run tomorrow before I make mine.
Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina Trumaine Johnson, CB MontanaMaybe they reach a bit for Mychal Kendricks, ILB California to take over for E.J. in the middle.
 
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Adam Schefter and other reporters are talking like the Rams trading the #2 for RGIII is a forgone conclusion. I will be very pleased if Vikings secures Kalil because of it. Any predictions on who the Vikings will take at 2.03? I want to see the DBs run tomorrow before I make mine.
Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina Trumaine Johnson, CB MontanaMaybe they reach a bit for Mychal Kendricks, ILB California to take over for E.J. in the middle.
The CBs sound about right, but I would rather see a safety picked...I think Brinkley will be fine in the middle if he comes back healthy.I hate to say it, but I hope Cook gets out of his mess, he was really playing well. I think the safeties are the weakness moreso than the corners.
 
Adam Schefter and other reporters are talking like the Rams trading the #2 for RGIII is a forgone conclusion. I will be very pleased if Vikings secures Kalil because of it. Any predictions on who the Vikings will take at 2.03? I want to see the DBs run tomorrow before I make mine.
Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina Trumaine Johnson, CB MontanaMaybe they reach a bit for Mychal Kendricks, ILB California to take over for E.J. in the middle.
The CBs sound about right, but I would rather see a safety picked...I think Brinkley will be fine in the middle if he comes back healthy.I hate to say it, but I hope Cook gets out of his mess, he was really playing well. I think the safeties are the weakness moreso than the corners.
Agree, Corners have a lot of question marks (Winfield's age, Cook's legal, Griffin's health (if he is healthier he needs to take a pay cut) but the safety position is more questionable.PA was talking to Mike Wobschall from vikings.com yesterday and he sounded like the Vikings could possibly concentrate on putting playmakers around Ponder this year to help his development and put the defense on back burner until next year.
 
PA was talking to Mike Wobschall from vikings.com yesterday and he sounded like the Vikings could possibly concentrate on putting playmakers around Ponder this year to help his development and put the defense on back burner until next year.
Well that would at least be interesting. If they could sign at least one, preferably two good FA receivers...
 
PA was talking to Mike Wobschall from vikings.com yesterday and he sounded like the Vikings could possibly concentrate on putting playmakers around Ponder this year to help his development and put the defense on back burner until next year.
Well that would at least be interesting. If they could sign at least one, preferably two good FA receivers...
I agree...I was actually impressed with Jenkins last year, but it will be better to have him as a #3 instead of a #1/#2 receiver. If they could get Wallace or Meachem and add Kalil, it could be fun to watch...I don't think they need the big red zone receiver as I think Rudolph will take that role.
 
PA was talking to Mike Wobschall from vikings.com yesterday and he sounded like the Vikings could possibly concentrate on putting playmakers around Ponder this year to help his development and put the defense on back burner until next year.
Well that would at least be interesting. If they could sign at least one, preferably two good FA receivers...
I think his development would be helped more by getting one FA receiver and then grabbing either Ben Grubbs or Carl Nicks. You get Kalil, Nicks/Grubbs, and Sullivan next to each other and move Charlie Johnson to the RG(or Hutch if he's still here this year) and now you only have one weak spot on the line in Loadholt. A weak spot only against speed rushers, which if the interior of the line gets solidified might not be nearly as weak since there will be room to step up. He's already got AP and Harvin. Rudolph will be a great safety valve IMO. One more playmaker would be more than enough. Give the kid time to throw and it'll do more for his development than 5 playmakers on offense.
 
PA was talking to Mike Wobschall from vikings.com yesterday and he sounded like the Vikings could possibly concentrate on putting playmakers around Ponder this year to help his development and put the defense on back burner until next year.
Well that would at least be interesting. If they could sign at least one, preferably two good FA receivers...
Agree, but I heard yesterday either on ESPN radio or Sirius NFL radio that VJax is willing to take less coin to stay in SD. IMO he would seem like the best get for the Vikes, unless the Steelers can't get a deal done for Wallace (and I'm not convinced he would be a good fit here anyway). I just hope they don't make a play for Wayne, that dude is done.
 
Kalil or bust for me. Teams just dont get many chances to draft dominant tackles. With Ponder already looking a bit soft, you better protect him.

 
I think his development would be helped more by getting one FA receiver and then grabbing either Ben Grubbs or Carl Nicks. You get Kalil, Nicks/Grubbs, and Sullivan next to each other and move Charlie Johnson to the RG(or Hutch if he's still here this year) and now you only have one weak spot on the line in Loadholt. A weak spot only against speed rushers, which if the interior of the line gets solidified might not be nearly as weak since there will be room to step up. He's already got AP and Harvin. Rudolph will be a great safety valve IMO. One more playmaker would be more than enough. Give the kid time to throw and it'll do more for his development than 5 playmakers on offense.
:goodposting: The Vikes were among the league leaders last year in yards per rush with a rickety OL. If they did what you just said, that OL could go from average-at-best to one of the better units in the league. I agree that does more to help this offense as a whole than adding a guy like Blackmon. Adding at least one good WR is an absolute must, but I don't think he has to be a true #1 kind of guy.
 
Knowing the bust to cost factor of free agent wide receivers, I think I would be happier if the Vikings signed none this off season

 
'snogger said:
'snellman said:
'ArcticEdge said:
Can we win just one ####### superbowl, just one! Please!!!!!!!!! ####.
Let's just get above .500 this year then we will go for the Superbowl.
Let's get a new stadium deal done first so they don't :drive: to another state. :thumbup: After that we can shoot for above .500 and THAN a Super Bowl!! :excited:
I am not from Minnesota so I can't really say I have a horse in the race, but what is with all of the whining from people and politicians over a new stadium? I understand that why should the state give a multimillionare money to build a new stadium, but that is the way it always has been and always will be done.I wonder if people realize how much that stadium is used other than for football games especially if it has a roof, which I think it needs in order to pass. It brings in a lot of income for the state as well as Wilf. Shoot, if the state had invested the income from the dump Dome over the years, they could probably pay for a whole new stadium and then some.It looks like lawmakers are playing a game of chicken with the team right now and you can bet they will cry and ##### at the top of their lungs if the team does in fact move.
 
'snogger said:
'snellman said:
'ArcticEdge said:
Can we win just one ####### superbowl, just one! Please!!!!!!!!! ####.
Let's just get above .500 this year then we will go for the Superbowl.
Let's get a new stadium deal done first so they don't :drive: to another state. :thumbup: After that we can shoot for above .500 and THAN a Super Bowl!! :excited:
I am not from Minnesota so I can't really say I have a horse in the race, but what is with all of the whining from people and politicians over a new stadium? I understand that why should the state give a multimillionare money to build a new stadium, but that is the way it always has been and always will be done.I wonder if people realize how much that stadium is used other than for football games especially if it has a roof, which I think it needs in order to pass. It brings in a lot of income for the state as well as Wilf. Shoot, if the state had invested the income from the dump Dome over the years, they could probably pay for a whole new stadium and then some.It looks like lawmakers are playing a game of chicken with the team right now and you can bet they will cry and ##### at the top of their lungs if the team does in fact move.
They've played chicken before and lost.. See the Minnesota North Stars.. :thumbdown: It costs them twice the amount to bring back a team then it would have to just build a stadium.. But Minnesota never seems to learn from past mistakes. :thumbdown:
 
They've played chicken before and lost.. See the Minnesota North Stars.. :thumbdown: It costs them twice the amount to bring back a team then it would have to just build a stadium.. But Minnesota never seems to learn from past mistakes. :thumbdown:
That's not exactly how it went down.
 
'snogger said:
'snellman said:
'ArcticEdge said:
Can we win just one ####### superbowl, just one! Please!!!!!!!!! ####.
Let's just get above .500 this year then we will go for the Superbowl.
Let's get a new stadium deal done first so they don't :drive: to another state. :thumbup: After that we can shoot for above .500 and THAN a Super Bowl!! :excited:
I am not from Minnesota so I can't really say I have a horse in the race, but what is with all of the whining from people and politicians over a new stadium? I understand that why should the state give a multimillionare money to build a new stadium, but that is the way it always has been and always will be done.I wonder if people realize how much that stadium is used other than for football games especially if it has a roof, which I think it needs in order to pass. It brings in a lot of income for the state as well as Wilf. Shoot, if the state had invested the income from the dump Dome over the years, they could probably pay for a whole new stadium and then some.

It looks like lawmakers are playing a game of chicken with the team right now and you can bet they will cry and ##### at the top of their lungs if the team does in fact move.
They've played chicken before and lost.. See the Minnesota North Stars.. :thumbdown: It costs them twice the amount to bring back a team then it would have to just build a stadium..

But Minnesota never seems to learn from past mistakes. :thumbdown:
Not really how it went
 
They've played chicken before and lost.. See the Minnesota North Stars.. :thumbdown:

It costs them twice the amount to bring back a team then it would have to just build a stadium..

But Minnesota never seems to learn from past mistakes. :thumbdown:
That's not exactly how it went down.
Granted there was a lot more to it,but not agreeing on a new stadium was part of it. Ok so all these years later I'm still bitter and since Norm is long gone and the msc are still here I'll blame them. :angry: minnesota north stars

 
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I just read a good 7 round mock draft from Matt Miller that I would "book" right now as a Vikings fan.

1) Matt Kalil OT USC

2) Devon Still DT Penn St

3) Chase Minnifield CB Virginia

4) Tommy Streeter WR Miami FL

5) Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa

6) traded away for Mcnabb

7) Donte Paige-Moss DE North Carolina

I think this mock represents alot of needs for The Vikes and some quality players. Add to this draft Brandon Carr, Carl Nicks/Ben Grubbs, and Vincent Jackson/Marques Colston in free agency and I would be 1 excited Vikings fan.

 
I just read a good 7 round mock draft from Matt Miller that I would "book" right now as a Vikings fan.1) Matt Kalil OT USC2) Devon Still DT Penn St3) Chase Minnifield CB Virginia4) Tommy Streeter WR Miami FL5) Marvin Mcnutt WR Iowa6) traded away for Mcnabb7) Donte Paige-Moss DE North CarolinaI think this mock represents alot of needs for The Vikes and some quality players. Add to this draft Brandon Carr, Carl Nicks/Ben Grubbs, and Vincent Jackson/Marques Colston in free agency and I would be 1 excited Vikings fan.
That wouldn't be bad at all...although I have a feeling they won't go that WR heavy and will grab a safety in there somewhere in the 2nd-4th range. I'm thinking they will get a WR in free agency and maybe draft one.They do have a 6th rounder that they got from Cleveland in the Jayme Mitchell trade and another 7th from New England that they got in the Randy Moss deal. They are banking on two more Compensatory picks which I have heard could be in the 4th round (Sidney Rice and Ray Edwards). Speilman has been talking about the "10" picks they will have...I would guess they are going to use the 5th-7th round picks that they own to move up to grab quality players they feel have fallen a bit.
 
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Adam Schefter and other reporters are talking like the Rams trading the #2 for RGIII is a forgone conclusion. I will be very pleased if Vikings secures Kalil because of it. Any predictions on who the Vikings will take at 2.03? I want to see the DBs run tomorrow before I make mine.
Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina Trumaine Johnson, CB MontanaMaybe they reach a bit for Mychal Kendricks, ILB California to take over for E.J. in the middle.
I have changed my mind several times but as of now I would like the Vikings to draft Kevin Zeitler, G at 2.03. I think the talk of Hutchinson and/or Herrara being cap casualites has swayed my opinion. Kicking Charles Johnson inside is only a temporary fix. Vikings are only 8-10 M under the cap. Signing a player like Nicks could wipe out most of their cap space.
 
Adam Schefter and other reporters are talking like the Rams trading the #2 for RGIII is a forgone conclusion. I will be very pleased if Vikings secures Kalil because of it. Any predictions on who the Vikings will take at 2.03? I want to see the DBs run tomorrow before I make mine.
Stephon Gilmore, CB South Carolina Trumaine Johnson, CB MontanaMaybe they reach a bit for Mychal Kendricks, ILB California to take over for E.J. in the middle.
I have changed my mind several times but as of now I would like the Vikings to draft Kevin Zeitler, G at 2.03. I think the talk of Hutchinson and/or Herrara being cap casualites has swayed my opinion. Kicking Charles Johnson inside is only a temporary fix. Vikings are only 8-10 M under the cap. Signing a player like Nicks could wipe out most of their cap space.
Dan Wiederer from the Star Tribune said yesterday in his Viking chat that there was zero chance they would bring Nicks in, even if they release Hutch. Just not enough money for him. Too bad, but if they draft Kalil that alone would improve the oline enough to turn them into a top 15 unit from a bottom 10 unit.
 
Found this tidbit on ProFootballweekly: Aaron Wilson of the Carroll County Times reported that the team plans to cut WR Lee Evans.

I thought that people were over-reacting to the stripped pass in the AFC championship and Baltimore would look past that play but apparently not. I wonder if he will have a reasonable price tag given all the bad press.

 
I was wondering if Tannehill is going to become a hot commodity and if a "surprise" team moves up to grab RG3, if someone would then try to jump ahead of Cleveland to grab Tannehill (like the Redskins)...anyone think that could happen or is Tannehill going to be a mid first rounder??

 
I was wondering if Tannehill is going to become a hot commodity and if a "surprise" team moves up to grab RG3, if someone would then try to jump ahead of Cleveland to grab Tannehill (like the Redskins)...anyone think that could happen or is Tannehill going to be a mid first rounder??
If the Redskins don't get a free agent QB like Manning or Flynn then I'd expect them to draft Tannehill.
 
After this past season, I am just sooooo looking forward to the draft and something positive to happen to this team...can't wait!!

 
Ok, we take Kalil. What FA WR can we get? I just hate to pass on Blackmon, guy has swagger. We need a player like that.

 

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