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Official MLB playoffs thread: 23 hour game exhausts all ball supplies (1 Viewer)

Who wins it all?


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104 hrs on the bench two nights in a row because the pitcher is left handed.

Roberts sucks 
That's probably an organizational decision that they screen for, though, Cowboys. 

They make sure, generally, that manager's decisions are minimized to a degree. It's the in-game stuff that's up for grabs. That's why the Sox wanted Maddon all those years. They wanted the original game plan executed, and Francona didn't. There are books about it, even in celebration, where they call him "Francoma" behind his back.  

 
What lineup would you have started? 
I start at least one of them (Muncy) over **** and leave my bench with a R/L/S hitter balance that accommodates my needs throughout the game. Right now, Roberts is sitting on 3 LH batters and switch hitting Grandal. I know Boston bullpen is RHP heavy, which is probably part of the thought process here, but which one isn't? 

 
I start at least one of them (Muncy) over **** and leave my bench with a R/L/S hitter balance that accommodates my needs throughout the game. Right now, Roberts is sitting on 3 LH batters and switch hitting Grandal. I know Boston bullpen is RHP heavy, which is probably part of the thought process here, but which one isn't? 
I have an earnest question: You think that was manager's decision or organization's? 

 
Bellinger for **** and Muncy for Dozier?

I may be the biggest **** fan around but this isn't June or July , this isn't time to ride out a slump until you turn it around.
I don't sit Dozier. As I mentioned before, he's seen Price a bunch of times before and I want him getting two ABs against him. If Price doesn't last that long, that probably means success is already taken place somewhere within the game and I have a balance of options on the bench for later in the game

 
All on the Org. While I think Roberts is an awful in-game manager, I do honestly think his hand is a bit forced before ink's on the lineup card. 
Cool. I just remember the Sox under John Henry and Theo and that's what I remember. That's the reason for the question. I said upthread they always wanted Maddon once they figured  out what managers did in-game, but they couldn't figure out how to fire Tito. Well, they got a title in Chicago together.

Thanks for the answer.  

 
What lineup would you have started? 
I'm old 

I like the national league style of play. At least I used to. I wouldnt have minded Taylor bunting last inning. I would've LOVED to see him try to drive the ball the other way.

All these guys trying to pull the ball every pitch no matter the sutuation, launch angle, waiting for the 3 run Homer.....meh

 
I start at least one of them (Muncy) over **** and leave my bench with a R/L/S hitter balance that accommodates my needs throughout the game. Right now, Roberts is sitting on 3 LH batters and switch hitting Grandal. I know Boston bullpen is RHP heavy, which is probably part of the thought process here, but which one isn't? 
I can kind of see that, but that obviously stings you defensively. 

 
I can kind of see that, but that obviously stings you defensively. 
Throw Kemp in left and DH Muncy or Freeze. Let's be honest, only the guy playing LF for the BoSox knows what they're doing out there at Fenway tonight. Plus, while I don't want to fall behind early in the game because of bad D,  losing a lead later in a game that I can win is even worse. I want defense at the end of the game

 
That's probably an organizational decision that they screen for, though, Cowboys. 

They make sure, generally, that manager's decisions are minimized to a degree. It's the in-game stuff that's up for grabs. That's why the Sox wanted Maddon all those years. They wanted the original game plan executed, and Francona didn't. There are books about it, even in celebration, where they call him "Francoma" behind his back.  
I'll be honest, I've never heard of this before. I don't like it

I'm like Parcells, if I'm supposed to cook the dinner I wanna buy the groceries 

 
Throw Kemp in left and DH Muncy or Freeze. Let's be honest, only the guy playing LF for the BoSox knows what they're doing out there at Fenway tonight. Plus, while I don't want to fall behind early in the game because of bad D,  losing a lead later in a game that I can win is even worse. I want defense at the end of the game
Taylor is in left. Ask yellich if he knows what he is doing out there. Kemp is no good in the field, but I don't have much of a problem with what you are suggesting, I just don't think it is a slam dunk. 

 
Taylor is in left. Ask yellich if he knows what he is doing out there. Kemp is no good in the field, but I don't have much of a problem with what you are suggesting, I just don't think it is a slam dunk. 
Knew I missed something in that equation....

Taylor would go to center

Kemp / Taylor / Puig

Turner / Machado / Dozier / Muncy

Barnes

Freese - DH

Bench is **** (r), Grandel (s), Bellinger (L), Pederson (L)

 
Interesting decision coming up for Cora. Price is kind of Manny's #####, so do you send him back out for the 6th? 
I don't know. I would have sent it after the inning. I sweat a little bit. It depends. You've got Kelly, Barnes, Brasier, Porcello, and Kimbrel available, though, so you don't have to have him go back out with the day off, but I would. That's personal. They have better numbers than I about pitch counts, better eyes than I do about high-stress pitches, etc. I let him go back out. 

Machado's leading off. You still have a fighting chance if, on the off chance, he goes yard. Plus his stuff tonight besides one announcer-reported hitting adjustment looks better than usual. I would. I live in KTLA land so I see the Dodgers highlights and certain games quite often. Jansen is throwing 95 tops, if I'm not mistaken. Runs aren't cheap, but they're not a million anymore.  

 
Maybe its just my memory failing me, but do I have a reason to think that Madson has gotten a first batter out once this post season? 

 
Maybe its just my memory failing me, but do I have a reason to think that Madson has gotten a first batter out once this post season? 
Prior to the WS he was actually having a really solid postseason. But he is 38 and was being relied on a lot. He didnt have good numbers in the regular season. 

Roberts definitely got greedy by going to that well so often. 

 
I'll be honest, I've never heard of this before. I don't like it

I'm like Parcells, if I'm supposed to cook the dinner I wanna buy the groceries 
Yeah, it's like any managerial construct these days. You have big data and big analytics coalescing and deciding, and the managers putting it into place. The basic theory, and Epic and Dr. D. can do it better than I, is that there are so many statistical isolations and so many cameras and tracking systems that it becomes a question of statistics and microscopes. It's not even the human eye watching and the data is crazy. 

The baseball thread has a PECOTA champ, the Rays. Which is a joke, but it's, well it's something they can explain better than I can...but managers are really no longer very much in control of their iineup aside from input because they're close to the laborers, as it were.  

 
Yeah, it's like any managerial construct these days. You have big data and big analytics coalescing and deciding, and the managers putting it into place. The basic theory, and Epic and Dr. D. can do it better than I, is that there are so many statistical isolations and so many cameras and tracking systems that it becomes a question of statistics and microscopes. It's not even the human eye watching and the data is crazy. 

The baseball thread has a PECOTA champ, the Rays. Which is a joke, but it's, well it's something they can explain better than I can...but managers are really no longer very much in control of their iineup aside from input because they're close to the laborers, as it were.  
To be honest, the only way PECOTA was even remotely right about their Rays prediction this season is purely dumb luck. That's unless one of their algorithms is capable of not only accounting for about a 40% turnover in the roster between mid March and the end of September, but also who those players coming and going will be.   

 
To be honest, the only way PECOTA was even remotely right about their Rays prediction this season is purely dumb luck. That's unless one of their algorithms is capable of not only accounting for about a 40% turnover in the roster between mid March and the end of September, but also who those players coming and going will be.   
Yeah, I don't understand all of it, nor am I willing to accept all of it at face value (The Three True Outcomes is terrible) but it's just a cool thread title, and an interesting way to describe what's gone on with that organization so desperately trying to compensate for income, but I forgot -- or never really understood -- the concept. I went back and took two college prob/stat classes to understand this stuff, but it petered out. The prob I got, the stat no. 

And I missed Mary while typing and thinking Mookie got it.  

 

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