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***Official National Signing Day thread*** (1 Viewer)

whoknew said:
gump said:
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
Something is weird with that. A NLI only takes one parent/guardian signature. His mother and CeCe should be able to sign off on it, if they both want him to go to Florida.
I'm reading it as the entire family is aligned behind frustration that UF didn't tell them about a DL coaching change?
On a related note, Ohio State didn't tell Mike Weber that the RB coach was going to leave for a job with the Chicago Bears.

His twitter - Mike Weber @mikeweber25

· 15m15 minutes ago
I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie
It makes me wonder - why would a big time recruit sign an LOI? Just commit to a program but don't sign.
It's a stupid system that was supposed to somewhat cut down on the fraud.

 
whoknew said:
gump said:
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
Something is weird with that. A NLI only takes one parent/guardian signature. His mother and CeCe should be able to sign off on it, if they both want him to go to Florida.
I'm reading it as the entire family is aligned behind frustration that UF didn't tell them about a DL coaching change?
On a related note, Ohio State didn't tell Mike Weber that the RB coach was going to leave for a job with the Chicago Bears.

His twitter - Mike Weber @mikeweber25

· 15m15 minutes ago
I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie
It makes me wonder - why would a big time recruit sign an LOI? Just commit to a program but don't sign.
Damn....and now he's stuck right?
I think he could transfer, but lose a year of eligibility. I'm not sure if he would lose a year of scholarship

This is really a test case that could end up at the supreme court if someone wanted to take it that far. Very shaky grounds these LOI are on.

 
whoknew said:
gump said:
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
Something is weird with that. A NLI only takes one parent/guardian signature. His mother and CeCe should be able to sign off on it, if they both want him to go to Florida.
I'm reading it as the entire family is aligned behind frustration that UF didn't tell them about a DL coaching change?
On a related note, Ohio State didn't tell Mike Weber that the RB coach was going to leave for a job with the Chicago Bears.

His twitter - Mike Weber @mikeweber25

· 15m15 minutes ago
I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie
It makes me wonder - why would a big time recruit sign an LOI? Just commit to a program but don't sign.
Damn....and now he's stuck right?
I think he could transfer, but lose a year of eligibility. I'm not sure if he would lose a year of scholarship

This is really a test case that could end up at the supreme court if someone wanted to take it that far. Very shaky grounds these LOI are on.
He can request to be released and the school can grant it.

 
whoknew said:
gump said:
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
Something is weird with that. A NLI only takes one parent/guardian signature. His mother and CeCe should be able to sign off on it, if they both want him to go to Florida.
I'm reading it as the entire family is aligned behind frustration that UF didn't tell them about a DL coaching change?
On a related note, Ohio State didn't tell Mike Weber that the RB coach was going to leave for a job with the Chicago Bears.

His twitter - Mike Weber @mikeweber25

· 15m15 minutes ago
I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie
It makes me wonder - why would a big time recruit sign an LOI? Just commit to a program but don't sign.
Damn....and now he's stuck right?
I think he could transfer, but lose a year of eligibility. I'm not sure if he would lose a year of scholarship

This is really a test case that could end up at the supreme court if someone wanted to take it that far. Very shaky grounds these LOI are on.
He can request to be released and the school can grant it.
But what if they say, no?

 
whoknew said:
gump said:
Fat Drunk and Stupid said:
Something is weird with that. A NLI only takes one parent/guardian signature. His mother and CeCe should be able to sign off on it, if they both want him to go to Florida.
I'm reading it as the entire family is aligned behind frustration that UF didn't tell them about a DL coaching change?
On a related note, Ohio State didn't tell Mike Weber that the RB coach was going to leave for a job with the Chicago Bears.

His twitter - Mike Weber @mikeweber25

· 15m15 minutes ago
I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie
It makes me wonder - why would a big time recruit sign an LOI? Just commit to a program but don't sign.
Damn....and now he's stuck right?
I think he could transfer, but lose a year of eligibility. I'm not sure if he would lose a year of scholarship

This is really a test case that could end up at the supreme court if someone wanted to take it that far. Very shaky grounds these LOI are on.
He can request to be released and the school can grant it.
Any sense of where this is heading BigJohn?

 
So SEC and Pac10 dominate this year, that about cover it?
The PAC has some good depth...but so does the ACC.The Big 12 is the Big 2...then a cliff.
Baylor and TCU are the big 2?They've been dominating the conference on the actual football field.
It's only a matter of time.J/k...you still have to coach...but I meant the Big 2 in the recruiting ranks sense.
Exactly! Andit is not like this is a science. CBS pointed out that not one single starter in the Super Bowl was a five-star recruit.

 
Is this poster gump when he's not in the FFA?? :D It's an interesting read, but reality is "oversigning" in CFB is as clear as mud or the tax code. Shouldn't be that complicated to understand IMO.

 
The Commish said:
Is this poster gump when he's not in the FFA?? :D It's an interesting read, but reality is "oversigning" in CFB is as clear as mud or the tax code. Shouldn't be that complicated to understand IMO.
:thumbup: The funny thing about this article is that OSU fans loved to point to this as a way Bama 'cheated' to have an edge...

 
The Commish said:
I saw UM on his list. Is that a possibility?
No
:goodposting: highly unlikely
UCLA fans think he's going to Georgia. An article on Rivals came out yesterday that seems like he ripped UCLA and Mora.

On top of that, we've been conditioned to believe that if a "committed" prospect has a second announcement . . . he's not announcing for the school he previously committed to.

But, those in the know from the UCLA perspective have no idea where Smith's leaning. That's probably not a good sign for UCLA.

 
The Commish said:
Don't know where the CFB thread went, but just got done reading about the woes at LSU. This is as good a place as any for it I guess :shrug:

No FA Agreements for You! Two Year!!!!
So F'n stupid. Even by NCAA standards, this is ridiculous. Even more so because Womack's dad said LSU didn't even take advantage of it.
This "penalty", if it can even be considered that, was handed down by the SEC.

ETA: And I'm not sure why there is anything if the school didn't "take advantage"

The NCAA modified the financial aid agreement (FAA) in April. It continued to allow schools “relaxed recruiting rules” for prospects who signed a financial aid agreement, but it also warned schools that they could be penalized for recruiting violations if that prospect did not eventually enroll in that school.
Do they get in trouble for signing him to an FAA agreement and he ended up not coming or do they have to "take advantage" of the unlimited contact to get in trouble?

 
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The Commish said:
Don't know where the CFB thread went, but just got done reading about the woes at LSU. This is as good a place as any for it I guess :shrug:

No FA Agreements for You! Two Year!!!!
So F'n stupid. Even by NCAA standards, this is ridiculous. Even more so because Womack's dad said LSU didn't even take advantage of it.
This "penalty", if it can even be considered that, was handed down by the SEC.

ETA: And I'm not sure why there is anything if the school didn't "take advantage"

The NCAA modified the financial aid agreement (FAA) in April. It continued to allow schools “relaxed recruiting rules” for prospects who signed a financial aid agreement, but it also warned schools that they could be penalized for recruiting violations if that prospect did not eventually enroll in that school.
Do they get in trouble for signing him to an FAA agreement and he ended up not coming or do they have to "take advantage" of the unlimited contact to get in trouble?
The SEC handed down the punishment, but it was for violating this newly implemented, stupid NCAA rule.

Apparently, there was more contact than what would have been allowed if he had not been under the FAA, just not a lot more. Apparently Womack and his dad just screwed LSU on this by repeatedly telling them that he was rock solid. Screw him. We got five OL better than him this year anyway.

LSU self reported this. Seems like a warning would have been appropriate here.

 
The Commish said:
Don't know where the CFB thread went, but just got done reading about the woes at LSU. This is as good a place as any for it I guess :shrug:

No FA Agreements for You! Two Year!!!!
So F'n stupid. Even by NCAA standards, this is ridiculous. Even more so because Womack's dad said LSU didn't even take advantage of it.
This "penalty", if it can even be considered that, was handed down by the SEC.

ETA: And I'm not sure why there is anything if the school didn't "take advantage"

The NCAA modified the financial aid agreement (FAA) in April. It continued to allow schools “relaxed recruiting rules” for prospects who signed a financial aid agreement, but it also warned schools that they could be penalized for recruiting violations if that prospect did not eventually enroll in that school.
Do they get in trouble for signing him to an FAA agreement and he ended up not coming or do they have to "take advantage" of the unlimited contact to get in trouble?
The SEC handed down the punishment, but it was for violating this newly implemented, stupid NCAA rule.

Apparently, there was more contact than what would have been allowed if he had not been under the FAA, just not a lot more. Apparently Womack and his dad just screwed LSU on this by repeatedly telling them that he was rock solid. Screw him. We got five OL better than him this year anyway.

LSU self reported this. Seems like a warning would have been appropriate here.
Yeah, doesn't make sense to me. Dad said they didn't take advantage of it. Something doesn't mesh. Is Womack the only one who would fit these circumstances? Maybe it wasn't him but someone else?

 
psychobillies said:
The Commish said:
Don't know where the CFB thread went, but just got done reading about the woes at LSU. This is as good a place as any for it I guess :shrug:

No FA Agreements for You! Two Year!!!!
So F'n stupid. Even by NCAA standards, this is ridiculous. Even more so because Womack's dad said LSU didn't even take advantage of it.
This "penalty", if it can even be considered that, was handed down by the SEC. ETA: And I'm not sure why there is anything if the school didn't "take advantage"

The NCAA modified the financial aid agreement (FAA) in April. It continued to allow schools relaxed recruiting rules for prospects who signed a financial aid agreement, but it also warned schools that they could be penalized for recruiting violations if that prospect did not eventually enroll in that school.
Do they get in trouble for signing him to an FAA agreement and he ended up not coming or do they have to "take advantage" of the unlimited contact to get in trouble?
The SEC handed down the punishment, but it was for violating this newly implemented, stupid NCAA rule.Apparently, there was more contact than what would have been allowed if he had not been under the FAA, just not a lot more. Apparently Womack and his dad just screwed LSU on this by repeatedly telling them that he was rock solid. Screw him. We got five OL better than him this year anyway.

LSU self reported this. Seems like a warning would have been appropriate here.
Wow that is terrible. This seems like a trap for schools. I've got a bad feeling this kid is going to be more trouble than he's worth.

 
As a reminder, the Underarmor All-American game is noon tomorrow.
Clemson is hopefully getting the LB.

I haven't followed recruiting too much since Spiller committed. Too many highs and lows over guys who may or may not pan out. I do enjoy seeing those star rankings, but I don't seek out the information like I used to.

 
A week out, and here are the Top 10 (Composite):

1 LSU Total: 22 5: 1 4: 17 3: 4 Avg: 92.32 286.57▼

2 Ohio State Total: 22 5: 1 4: 15 3: 6 Avg: 91.66 282.56▼

3 Michigan Total: 25 5: 0 4: 14 3: 11 Avg: 89.68 268.25▼

4 Ole Miss Total: 22 5: 3 4: 10 3: 9 Avg: 90.31 264.34▼

5 Florida State Total: 20 5: 1 4: 11 3: 8 Avg: 90.33 264.29▼

6 Florida Total: 26 5: 0 4: 9 3: 17 Avg: 88.54 260.06▼

7 Alabama Total: 17 5: 1 4: 9 3: 7 Avg: 91.51 256.48▼

8 Notre Dame Total: 22 5: 0 4: 10 3: 12 Avg: 89.07 248.18▼

9 Georgia Total: 15 5: 2 4: 9 3: 4 Avg: 91.95 247.39▼

10 Clemson Total: 15 5: 1 4: 9 3: 5 Avg: 91.80 246.24▼

 
The big undecideds, with current Crystal Ball percentages:

1. DT Rashan Gary - MIchigan 78%, Bama 18%

9. DT Derrick Brown - UGA 84%, Auburn 16%

10. LB Ben Davis - Bama 100%

11. LB Mique Juarez - UCLA 71%, Ole Miss 21%

13. Ath Mecole Hardman - UGA 78%, Bama 11%

14. WR Demetrius Robertson - ND 44%, UGA 33%, Bama 17%

15. LB Lyndell Wilson - Bama 82%, UGA 5%

19. DE Jeffery Simmons - Ole Miss 45%, Miss St 36%

21. CB Kristian Fulton - LSU 100%

22. CB Jack Jones - USC 84%, UCLA 16%

25. LB Caleb Kelly - Oklahoma 96%

31. OT Landon Dickerson - FSU 69%, VT 15%

38. WR AJ Brown - Miss St 83%, Bama 17%

40. S Brandon Jones - TAMU 73%, Texas 27%

43. WR Nate Craig-Myers - AU 67%, FSU 18%, UF 11%

 
LSU has a chance to hold on to #1. I think after that, obviously Bama and maybe Georgia have a shot at it. I don't think OSU is expecting any more big time commits so they probably won't take it. Do you know how many commits Bama is going to take this year?

 
LSU has a chance to hold on to #1. I think after that, obviously Bama and maybe Georgia have a shot at it. I don't think OSU is expecting any more big time commits so they probably won't take it. Do you know how many commits Bama is going to take this year?
It's much less clear this year than in a while...but I'd guess 8 more to 25.

 

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