This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
Apparently, this kid doesn't live with his mother and his coach is his legal guardian. In the end, I would think Arkansas might hang on to him, but who knows.Some crazy stuff.I think something similar happened a couple of years ago, but I can't remember any details other than someone's mother refused to sign the LOI.If by "best" you mean "worst."...the minute we seem to gain a little momentum in recruiting a crazy mother steals an LOI.
4* OL Cameron Hunt too.And Oregon landed Prevot. Nice get. Pretty stellar class, on paper, for Oregon.Devon Allen picked the Ducks over the Bruins, which hurt a bit as UCLA needed another fast WR. But, other than him, UCLA and Oregon aren't competing for any of the same recruits.GDogg, no comments about the 2 or 3 guys that UCLA is likely to lose to Oregon?
UCLA wasn't recruiting Cameron Hunt. They have 7 OL commits and have been done with OL recruiting (other than keeping their commits) for months.4* OL Cameron Hunt too.And Oregon landed Prevot. Nice get. Pretty stellar class, on paper, for Oregon.Devon Allen picked the Ducks over the Bruins, which hurt a bit as UCLA needed another fast WR. But, other than him, UCLA and Oregon aren't competing for any of the same recruits.GDogg, no comments about the 2 or 3 guys that UCLA is likely to lose to Oregon?
He can go to Arkansas without the LOI if he wants. I forget the specifics, but something along the lines of he can register for class, walk on the team, then be awarded a scholarship. Something like that.Apparently, this kid doesn't live with his mother and his coach is his legal guardian. In the end, I would think Arkansas might hang on to him, but who knows.Some crazy stuff.I think something similar happened a couple of years ago, but I can't remember any details other than someone's mother refused to sign the LOI.If by "best" you mean "worst."
That was worse....iirc the mom forged the kids name to the school she wanted, when he wanted to go somewhere else....may have been an Ole Miss-MSU thing.I think something similar happened a couple of years ago, but I can't remember any details other than someone's mother refused to sign the LOI.If by "best" you mean "worst."
That's right! Mom forged a signature. Pure awesomeness.That was worse....iirc the mom forged the kids name to the school she wanted, when he wanted to go somewhere else....may have been an Ole Miss-MSU thing.I think something similar happened a couple of years ago, but I can't remember any details other than someone's mother refused to sign the LOI.If by "best" you mean "worst."
They aren't getting Vanderdoes.They have some really, really good players, but this class is an utter disaster for Southern Cal. There isn't a reasonable argument that they have as good a class as anyone, including UCLA.They have 12 commits (7 are already on campus) and have an excellent chance of losing 4 star OT Nico Falah to UW. They lose him and they will be bringing in 1 OL and 1 DL for two position groups that are the most thin on the team (along with DB). Their "class" has an excellent chance of only having 11 players in it.And, the amount of top 100 kids, depends on which site you are looking at. According to Scout.com, Southern Cal has 8 Top 100 kids and UCLA has 6. Alabama is killing it with 12, Ohio St. has 8 and Michigan has 7. Notre Dame also has 6 and is likely to add a seventh in Eddie Vanderdoes.I don't think there are many schools ranked in the recruiting Top 10 that would take Southern Cal's class over their own, including UCLA. It's just way too small.
Smoke weed talk #### like Lane Kiffin.
Not so peachy Mark.
Yup. Fantastic recruiting class again for the Crimson Tide. And, it's a complete class with playmakers everywhere.
What's the weather like up there? Careful not to get nosebleeds.
Doesn't matter. At the moment, an RB from Bama can be a one year starter and end up as a first round pick. One (or two) will likely redshirt I'm guessing and all three think they will be in the NFL in 4 years.
Absolutely. A very balanced class as well, as all positions on the field are represented. Very pleasantly surprised at how great Mora and his staff are at recruiting.
Well, when half the teams in front of them are in the same conference it does clear the field on the way to the BCS a bit...
Excellent analysis. Oregon's success is the reason this is an over-hyped process and rankings.Except...it's not. The recruiting sites get it right on the whole.
Exactly.Mora did a great job of assembling a group of excellent recruiters, particularly Adrian Klemm, Demetrice Martin and Angus McClure. As you said before, Woulard was huge because he's got the raw skills, but isn't ready to play yet and can sit and develop behind Hundley for a couple years. The OL, LB and DB classes were big because those were the biggest needs.
And the back doesn't have to run for 1500 yards to get there. Plus I don't think Saban likes having to lean on 2 backs as much as he has in the last few years...despite the talent. If the remember the Michigan game when Fowler was healthy...it was almost an even split between the 3 before they got up big.
No national titles. Guess what conference who keeps appearing at the top of these rankings wins them all?
Even UVa took a Georgia legacy from them.
And that doesn't include Rueben Foster right? He just moved from GA last summer.A great coach and recruiter could be scary there.Not so peachy Mark.
This was a banner year in Georgia recruiting and we missed on a ton of kids. To be fair, though, there are like 40 4* or 5* players in state and UGA got a ton of them so its not like the cupboard is bare. But we definitely missed on the big dogs - Nkemdiche, Adams, Von Bell, Reuben Foster, Kamara, etc.
it's not the be all, end all.....but I read somewhere that no team has won a national title in the last decade without having a top 5 class at least once in the previous 4 years and it was generally 3-4 years before the title
I used to say this too. It helps you feel better when your school craps the bed in recruiting.
I won't say it's nothing, but I still don't take that at face value because you really can't prove cause and effect. The best teams (the teams that always win and have the best coaches/most money) get the highest ranked recruits. The fact that the highest ranked recruits win games doesn't prove a whole lot except that they land at the schools that always win. If you gave Nick Saban a year of 2 stars and gave Wake Forest a year of 5 stars, I'd be interested in the results.There haven't been a ton of test cases for obvious reasons. Ole Miss might be one though in the near future.
How about the beginning of the tenures of the 2 best recruiters in modern football....Carroll and Saban? Both went to programs that had all the potential but were considered dormant. Both struggled the first season out, playing with plenty of 2 and 3 stars....but turned it up after that when they immediately began reeling in #1 classes.
One year of recruiting great means Ole Miss might be a solid team and win 9 games one year. But they are still in a division with two teams that have had top 10 classes (and bama who has like 5 recruiting championships) for the past 5 or 6 years. Ole Miss is behind the 8-ball and needs to keep recruiting like this to have any chance at long-term success.Recruiting is the lifeblood of college football, as the NFL draft is the lifeblood of the NFL.
As an LSU fan, I love it. Makes it hard for
I think you have to put Urban Meyer in that select company, as well.
Yow, he's a stud.
Brady Hoke almost single-handedly undid all the damage that Rich Rodriguez did to Michigan's reputation and style of play. Granted, he's only entering his third year, and Michigan hasn't seriously contended for a national title, but going 19-6 after the previous coach went 15-22 has to stand for something. I'd put him in the top 10 of recruiting coaches easily.
I disagree... really a hard thing to quantify though. Ohio State's athletes went 6-6 when they had an average coach. They got Urban Meyer and the same kids went 12-0. There are examples both ways.
