Can anyone tell me when the NFL issues any stat changes for that week's games? I know that I've seen threads on this topic before, but I've never paid any attention to them. However, I lost a game in one of my leagues this last week by 3/10 of a point. I don't really expect any changes, but I figured I might as well look into it, because it wouldn't take much to change the outcome of that game.
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Official NFL stat changes? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Bayhawks
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Usually Thursday AM.
http://fantasy.nfl.com/research/statcorrections
If you are on MFL for your league, they have a page as well.
http://fantasy.nfl.com/research/statcorrections
If you are on MFL for your league, they have a page as well.
T with T
Footballguy
how did floyd lose a reception for 13 yards??? did they mistake Fitzgerald or andre roberts as floyd in game and then somehow go back and make sure each entry is correct??? always wondered how they catch these things and if it ever goes under the radar where Floyd get's another wrs catch.... any pros or guys with knowledge into this care to enlighten?
Young 8
Footballguy
yellowdog
Footballguy
Okay. I didn't expect to find anything significant, but I thought I'd check defensive stats (maybe a tackle for 1 yard gain became a sack, etc). I didn't find anything there, but I decided to look at my other players as well.
The guy I played last week had Joseph Randle & I started Beasley. On the last play of the game, Beasley was credited with a fumble (I am not sure if it was a fumble or an attempted lateral). We don't lose points for fumbles, so that doesn't matter. However, the stats on CBS show that Randle picked it up and lost 7 yards. He was credited with 44 total yards (rush & rec) for 4.4 points. I checked and those 7 yards were not deducted.
Can anyone tell me how the NFL scores this? Do these yards count as rush/rec yards?
The guy I played last week had Joseph Randle & I started Beasley. On the last play of the game, Beasley was credited with a fumble (I am not sure if it was a fumble or an attempted lateral). We don't lose points for fumbles, so that doesn't matter. However, the stats on CBS show that Randle picked it up and lost 7 yards. He was credited with 44 total yards (rush & rec) for 4.4 points. I checked and those 7 yards were not deducted.
Can anyone tell me how the NFL scores this? Do these yards count as rush/rec yards?
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
They credited Floyd with a 13 yard catch that he didn't catch. Jaron Brown caught the pass.
I definitely need help in this situation. On MFL, I found this:
I didn't see the end of the game on Sunday. Can anyone who saw the last play (or who has a video of said play) confirm whether Beasley fumbled on that last play or whether he lateraled the ball?
This is important, b/c if he lateraled it, than Randle should get 7 yards deducted from his receiving total, according to MFL.
A little more information. From the NFL rulebook (2013):
1-The last play obviously occurred after the 2 minute warning (7 seconds left when play started). Randle was allowed to "recover" the fumble and then lateral it to Doug Free, so the play wasn't blown dead.
2-If the play was a lateral, according to MFL, Randle is given receiving yardage from the point he received the lateral until he lateraled it away; that was -7 yards.
3-That -7 yards would cause a .7 point deduction from Randle's score, impacting the outcome of my game.
So I have 2 questions:
1-Does anyone have video of the play in question? A link or something?
2-Do I even pursue this? If I talk to the commish, and he adjusts the score, I would win on a "technicality." Should I just let it go, since I couldn't win outright (Suisham can't kick straight, QB can't complete a pass, started the 2 of the wrong WRs, etc). Is winning this way "undignified?"
I feel like I have a legitimate case here:
1-The last play obviously occurred after the 2 minute warning (7 seconds left when play started). Randle was allowed to "recover" the fumble and then lateral it to Doug Free, so the play wasn't blown dead.
2-If the play was a lateral, according to MFL, Randle is given receiving yardage from the point he received the lateral until he lateraled it away; that was -7 yards.
3-That -7 yards would cause a .7 point deduction from Randle's score, impacting the outcome of my game.
So I have 2 questions:
1-Does anyone have video of the play in question? A link or something?
2-Do I even pursue this? If I talk to the commish, and he adjusts the score, I would win on a "technicality." Should I just let it go, since I couldn't win outright (Suisham can't kick straight, QB can't complete a pass, started the 2 of the wrong WRs, etc). Is winning this way "undignified?"
Yeah, that's probably my plan. I need bring it to the commish's attention though before Thursday. That's why I'm wanting/hoping to find a clip of that play, so I can see whether it looked like a lateral, or a fumble.
rocketsauce
Footballguy
No clue if this link will even work but, this should be the full play by play on NFL.com's gamecenter.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013102700/2013/REG8/cowboys@lions#menu=highlights%7CcontentId%3A0ap2000000270604&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay
As you can see, the play in question says "View Highlight" although it doesn't work for me (little ever does in terms of NFL.com's highlight thing. Could be my adblock or something similar). If it works though, you can check out the play for yourself.
Edit: Hey it worked! Beasley does lateral to Randle, who has it bounce off a finger tip and then go backwards a number of yards. I'm not sure how that impacts yardage scored, but that's what happened.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2013102700/2013/REG8/cowboys@lions#menu=highlights%7CcontentId%3A0ap2000000270604&tab=analyze&analyze=playbyplay
As you can see, the play in question says "View Highlight" although it doesn't work for me (little ever does in terms of NFL.com's highlight thing. Could be my adblock or something similar). If it works though, you can check out the play for yourself.
Edit: Hey it worked! Beasley does lateral to Randle, who has it bounce off a finger tip and then go backwards a number of yards. I'm not sure how that impacts yardage scored, but that's what happened.
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Thanks; I saw that earlier but I couldn't get the video to play. Working now, it was clearly a lateral, in my mind. I guess it just matters about how the league rules it.
rocketsauce
Footballguy
I think what you're hoping is that Randle's -7 fumble yards come off his rushing/receiving total, and I don't believe that happens. In fact, I'm about 99% sure "fumble yards" are kept separately.
GregR
Footballguy
Just watched it on NFL rewind and I don't see negative rushing yards. Here's what happened on the play
The pass is caught by Beasley and lateraled, but not possessed which makes it a fumble. Randle goes after the ball and scoops it and laterals it backwards 7 yards where it is caught by Doug Free, who runs it forward 5 yards and is tackled.
So it should have been ruled like this:
Beasley gets credit for 1 reception for however many yards, and 1 fumble (not lost to opponent).
Randle gets credit for 1 offensive fumble recovery. Ball is dead on the spot of the recovery.
If the stat guys go with what it appeared on the field (i.e. refs didn't properly blow play dead), then I imagine it will end up as:
Beasley: 1 reception, X yards and 1 fumble
Randle: 1 offensive fumble recovery
Free: -2 offensive fumble return yards.
In any event, Randle never moved the ball either direction. Free's yardage is measured from the point of the lateral to where he ended up, which is -2 yards. So I wouldn't expect Randle to see any stats out of it besides an offensive fumble recovery.
The pass is caught by Beasley and lateraled, but not possessed which makes it a fumble. Randle goes after the ball and scoops it and laterals it backwards 7 yards where it is caught by Doug Free, who runs it forward 5 yards and is tackled.
So it should have been ruled like this:
Beasley gets credit for 1 reception for however many yards, and 1 fumble (not lost to opponent).
Randle gets credit for 1 offensive fumble recovery. Ball is dead on the spot of the recovery.
If the stat guys go with what it appeared on the field (i.e. refs didn't properly blow play dead), then I imagine it will end up as:
Beasley: 1 reception, X yards and 1 fumble
Randle: 1 offensive fumble recovery
Free: -2 offensive fumble return yards.
In any event, Randle never moved the ball either direction. Free's yardage is measured from the point of the lateral to where he ended up, which is -2 yards. So I wouldn't expect Randle to see any stats out of it besides an offensive fumble recovery.
