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***Official OHIO STATE-MICHIGAN Thread*** (2 Viewers)

Me neither, and I agree it went in the official scorebook that way. But it was a bad spot for sure and should not have been.a first down.
Call could have gone either way. If Harbaugh hadn't been such an ### to the refs for the entire game, they may have given it to him. 

 
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Unnecessary. I didn't have a rooting interest. Did you? If so. You mind sharing with us all who it was?
Ohio State - it's no secret around here.

You're going to need to post some pictures here to back up your confident claim that it was a bad spot  - because your other explanation doesn't hold up.  

 
Ohio State - it's no secret around here.

You're going to need to post some pictures here to back up your confident claim that it was a bad spot  - because your other explanation doesn't hold up.  
I thought so. Doesn't matter what I think. Game's over. I'm now an Ohio State fan the rest of the way. I like both teams so I'm not a hater. Just thought Michigan held and won. But no biggie. Anybody but 'Bama.

 
Close call, could argue either way. It's a game of inches. Two very equal teams. Play that a game 10 times and it's probably a 5-5 split, I mean they tied, right?

Thr tough part is the playoff and division system. It's a mess right now. 

 
No dog in the fight but it seemed Michigan got jobbed on 3-4 big calls.no calls today.

I knew the refs would never end the game on the 4th down call and get out of that place alive.

 
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Obviously disappointed by the result but I'm not gonna ##### about the 4th down call.  It was close.  Live I thought they hit him but I guess they didn't.   Bottom line make more big plays and less mistakes and you win that game easily. 

Again disappointed that were not going to indy or beyond but the program is back

 
You're right hang onto that timeout. The kid had missed his only two FGs he missed all season in this game.
I think he should have used the TO earlier so there might have been more than 2 seconds left when they got the ball back. I just don't think there's any evidence that icing the K works. By definition, Urban iced his own K.

 
I think he should have used the TO earlier so there might have been more than 2 seconds left when they got the ball back. I just don't think there's any evidence that icing the K works. By definition, Urban iced his own K.
I had the same thought. You have peppers and a time out and over 20 seconds. As it was they took to the osu 40. One more play with ten extra seconds maybe you kick your own fg. To do nothing with that timeout was mystifying 

 
I had the same thought. You have peppers and a time out and over 20 seconds. As it was they took to the osu 40. One more play with ten extra seconds maybe you kick your own fg. To do nothing with that timeout was mystifying 
Very mystifying. Ended up not mattering since tOSU completed a pass on 3rd down and could have ran the clock down, but it was a poor decision by JH IMO because there was a very good chance that play ends up as an incomplete pass.

 
You'd think in today's day and age that we could have chips in the ball that could let everyone know where the ball was.  If he made it, it was by an inch or two.  Personally I thought he was a tad short but knew he'd get the benefit of the doubt.  It looked like he was going to make it easy and I think this made the ref give him 6" more than he deserved. 

 
I'm quite convinced he was short of the first down.  But ...shame on my Michigan team for the play before.  It should have been 4th and 5 or 4th and 10 ...not 4th and 1.  And really, Michigan didn't play well in the second half.  Don't know if they got cautious after the turnovers or just tried not to lose instead of trying to win.  Dammit.

 
Michigan outplayed Ohio St. in regulation but OSU will get the W.  Neither fan base should be too happy tonight.

 
Michigan outplayed Ohio St. in regulation but OSU will get the W.  Neither fan base should be too happy tonight.
Michigan's offense was pretty putrid in the 2nd half.  Nobody is giving credit to the OSU defense for that.  They earned the 2 int and were lucky to pounce on the fumble.  They bailed out the offense most of the game with the way the field position went in the 1st half and the fake punt botch.  OSU outgained UM in the game and if you told me that halfway through the 3rd I'd have said you were crazy.  

 
In Ann Arbor it would have been reversed....at the Horseshoe the ref would have never made it out of the stadium alive...if he did his life and his families life's would have been ruined with death threats.  I don`t blame him...

 
I'm disappointed. At first it was because of the loss. But now it's seeing fingers pointed at zebras instead of looking in a mirror. 

 
In Ann Arbor it would have been reversed....at the Horseshoe the ref would have never made it out of the stadium alive...if he did his life and his families life's would have been ruined with death threats.  I don`t blame him...
No matter how it had been called on the field, it wasn't going to be reversed.

There wasn't evidence to overturn a call of just short, or a call of just enough.

 
I'm disappointed. At first it was because of the loss. But now it's seeing fingers pointed at zebras instead of looking in a mirror. 
Agree but if what JH is saying the ref said is true, then the personal foul on JH seems really bad. Harbaugh said the referee's explanation was "it would be a technical foul in basketball." 

 
I'm a Michigan fan and I thought the first down spot was fair.  And I didn't see anything on replay show it should be changed.  That said, overall OSU definitely got more calls than Michigan overall.

It was the mistakes, specifically turnovers and penalties, that lost Michigan the game.

 
Agree but if what JH is saying the ref said is true, then the personal foul on JH seems really bad. Harbaugh said the referee's explanation was "it would be a technical foul in basketball." 
Didn't he get flagged for throwing something ONTO the field of play?  I'm not sure how that's not a penalty, doesn't matter if it's a laminated piece of paper or a knife I would think.

 
Didn't he get flagged for throwing something ONTO the field of play?  I'm not sure how that's not a penalty, doesn't matter if it's a laminated piece of paper or a knife I would think.
 Not sure exactly what the penalty was or what football rules are. They aren't basketball rules so no reason for a ref to compare them. 

 
In this rivalry, if you lose the turnover battle 3 to 1, odds are pretty good you will lose. 14 of OSU's 17 points in regulation came directly after the turnovers. 

That's why UM lost. Blaming the refs is just  :cry:

 
The catch and run by Samuel on third down when he reversed his field was tremendous. 

Michigan's defense played great. OSU was 3/16 on third down & they had 8 sacks.

Turnovers killed them. Both interceptions led to the only TDs the Buckeyes scored in regulation, and the first QB/C exchange fumble all year is at your opponents 1 in the biggest game of the year? That just can't happen.

Tip your hat to the Buckeyes. Good teams find a way to win even when they get outplayed.

 
The catch and run by Samuel on third down when he reversed his field was tremendous. 

Michigan's defense played great. OSU was 3/16 on third down & they had 8 sacks.

Turnovers killed them. Both interceptions led to the only TDs the Buckeyes scored in regulation, and the first QB/C exchange fumble all year is at your opponents 1 in the biggest game of the year? That just can't happen.

Tip your hat to the Buckeyes. Good teams find a way to win even when they get outplayed.
tOSU had their own major issues. 2 missed FGs? The botched snap sucked but that led to the awful fake punt and UM TD. This was 2 even teams. 

 
In this rivalry, if you lose the turnover battle 3 to 1, odds are pretty good you will lose. 14 of OSU's 17 points in regulation came directly after the turnovers. 

That's why UM lost. Blaming the refs is just  :cry:
The one fumble on the goal line was negated by the botched fake punt right after...but the INTs were a killer.  Barrett can`t pass the ball so why they gave him the middle of the field was puzzling..everytime they did he took off.

About the refs.  The last call could have gone either way. If he marked it short it would not have been overturned just as the way it was marked was not overturned..to close to change it.

 The two no calls that hurt were the no call on the PI the possession before that forced the FG, and on Samuels run where he reversed his field there were two blatant holds..one M defensive player was tackled trying to chase Samuels.

But there were not called so move on..it was a great game to watch.

The one thing I hated was OSUs helmets and uniforms .   In a rivalry game I wanted to see the old Buckeye Scarlett and Grey uniforms with the grey helmet with Buckeyes on them.

 
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Well now that I've calmed down, some things that I noticed. The Michigan fumble inside the 5 was a killer, however the play before that De'von Smith looked like he could of easily ran to the right and scored, however he tried to truck the Ohio defender, getting tackled at the two. Where the penalties one sided? There are plenty of giffs on social media to see that. But more then that was the play calling. Other then one time when Peppers was on offense did they not run the wildcat. (Which went no where) Peppers was in the backfield as a tailback, they faked a toss sweep to the left and threw a pass to the right for 9 yards. Only ran that type of play once. Ohio was keyed on Peppers every time he was on offense. Another play calling blunder, where in the hell was Mcdoooooooooooooom? Not one touch all game? Michigan was clearly the better team yesterday, but bad play calling, bad turnovers and then some bad calls against them killed them.  Ohio lost a lot of players last year and where able to win this year. Michigan loses a lot of players this year, will they be able to reload? Or are they still years away from winning again in this rivalry?    

 

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