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DJackson10
Footballguy
I don’t think people are pretending it doesn’t happen I think people are pretending he wasn’t fired because of the other stuff that went on too. That was a final straw event. Those who even agree with punk in his friends circle know he was lucky he wasn’t fired after the scrum. This was just the “ok we gave you another chance and you F’D up.”
My issue with this is more people acting like they’d do this at their work and not be fired themselves. I work in a very toxic environment as many have read before about my work. There’s like 10 people especially the one coke head in my department and one other I’d love to just knock out at work or get in their face but I know I can’t because I’d probably be the one losing my job. You just can’t do that. There’s a time and place for physicality and honesty on a coworker it’s not enough to waste on
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Yep, his meltdown in this thread was very predictable. His posts read like Twitter rantings.Ok man we get it you don't like Punk
DJackson10
Footballguy
BREAKING NEWS: Akebono dead at 54 years old from Heart Failure.
Akebono was an American-born Japanese former professional sumo wrestler and professional wrestler from Waimānalo, Hawaii. He was known most notably to wrestling fans for having a Sumo Match with Big Show at WrestleMania 21. Akebono won that match and continued to have a successful career in Sumo.
Akebono was an American-born Japanese former professional sumo wrestler and professional wrestler from Waimānalo, Hawaii. He was known most notably to wrestling fans for having a Sumo Match with Big Show at WrestleMania 21. Akebono won that match and continued to have a successful career in Sumo.
DJackson10
Footballguy
It’s still not ok no matter the situations people want to act like it’s men being men? Yeah physicallity happens. I don’t care what sports do what that’s the problem with society. If I was Draymond A’s teammate I’d have filed assault charges I don’t give a dam. Green isn’t an NBA player he’s just a goon at this point lucky to be in the league. Yes altercations happen on the field of play. Pushing happens in a locker room ok. But we are seriously going to defend this?
It shouldn’t be happening. This stuff may have been acceptable at one time but we live in A different age now.
coyote5
Footballguy
I'll say this. What a terrible decision to air that footage. It was basically as Punk described it, and honestly, Perry should have been begging them not to air it because it made him look like a giant *****. And trying to shoehorn the airing of it into the Bucks FTR feud? So forced. It's so obvious they thought showing it was a good idea, but then couldn't find a plausible reason to do so.
And then to top it all off they make FTR come out to a dead crowd and try to sell it. That crowd was not buying it.
And then to top it all off they make FTR come out to a dead crowd and try to sell it. That crowd was not buying it.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Here’s the translation to segment from dirt sheet radio
Someone once said “if you had a problem with Jack Perry, you got a problem with me.”
The Bucks begin to blame FTR for CM Punk's outbursts and Matt tells Nick he can’t just go around spreading rumors about people.
The Bucks say “after the incident” they needed to get their minds back together. They say they only reason they lost to FTR is because of CM Punk's incident with Jack Perry.
Bucks say the incident was short, like a high school scrap.
They play the footage and it confirms Punk was the aggressor. It also confirms CM Punk lunged at Tony Khan, knocking down monitors around him. Samoa Joe, Chris Hero, Ace Steel and Malakai Black take Punk away.
The Bucks come back and they reiterate they lost to FTR because of this distraction.
FTR comes to the ring for a semi-shoot promo where they say they want to move on from this incident 8 months ago.
They say the locker room is too damn talented to be stuck in this situation, if the Young Bucks don't want to move on, they can leave AEW and FTR will take it from here
Someone once said “if you had a problem with Jack Perry, you got a problem with me.”
The Bucks begin to blame FTR for CM Punk's outbursts and Matt tells Nick he can’t just go around spreading rumors about people.
The Bucks say “after the incident” they needed to get their minds back together. They say they only reason they lost to FTR is because of CM Punk's incident with Jack Perry.
Bucks say the incident was short, like a high school scrap.
They play the footage and it confirms Punk was the aggressor. It also confirms CM Punk lunged at Tony Khan, knocking down monitors around him. Samoa Joe, Chris Hero, Ace Steel and Malakai Black take Punk away.
The Bucks come back and they reiterate they lost to FTR because of this distraction.
FTR comes to the ring for a semi-shoot promo where they say they want to move on from this incident 8 months ago.
They say the locker room is too damn talented to be stuck in this situation, if the Young Bucks don't want to move on, they can leave AEW and FTR will take it from here
DJackson10
Footballguy
Will Ospreay has heard rumours that he’s afraid of the grind and shoots them down
“The guy that said it is only in the position he is in because he was grinding on the bosses daughter”
Will also mentions all the countries he’s fought in over the yrs.
“The guy that said it is only in the position he is in because he was grinding on the bosses daughter”
Will also mentions all the countries he’s fought in over the yrs.
millertyme1
Footballguy
DJackson10
Footballguy
Obviously AEW responded tonight to WWE over this week. Really don’t understand why either company did this. Punk being in Helwani is fine promote mania and WWE but to have him talk about AEW etc I just don’t think WWE gains much. All anyone talked about was punks interview and that overshadowed everything else to start the week. AEW called his bluff on Perry being the instigator and using self defebse.
Then Hunter goes on a show at WWE world acting like the boy who was just rejected by the girl for prom acting like he never wanted her making comments how certain people want more money to work less. This was shots taken at Okada and Ospreay so will responded. As good of a mind hunter has for the business we can all agree he ain’t in charge of WWE if he was banging Steph he wouldn’t be in that position today. That’s true what will says. Oldest joke about Hunter but Steph was an absolute ring rat back then too.
I just don’t see the advantage WWE has with these shots. You have mania. People say AEW is petty for this and you could say yes but history says many companies in wrestling history do this (sup TNA with Billy Gunn, sup NJPW and Yoshi Tatsu, hi WWE and bingo hall jokes about ROH, hey AEW on WWE references) everywhere.i just didn’t see the need for WWEs shots here. WWE just looks as petty. Like be the bigger company. Ok Punk you had a tough time you said the same crap when you left your current employer. Ok Hunter you got out bid on a few wrestlers. News flash not everyone these days wants to go to WWE and you can’t under negotiate people anymore like you did with most of the UK talent. Also one of those wrestlers was insulted by one of your top guys in Seth Rollins a few yrs back. Probably didn’t help.
Ok AEW you showed the footage. Tied it into a current storyline. Kind of funny. Let’s move on. I get you Will, you’re pissed off about Hunters comments. Real fans who follow you know how hard you worked. Let’s now move on. The jokes like FTR being shaved backs etc is funny I don’t mind little ribs like that. Hell many loved when punk was ****ting on WWE calling AEW a real company in his first promo back. Ok we get those jokes. They’re cool when not used all the time.
Both companies need to just get their **** together and move on at this point. Get back to wrestling or whatever makes them good. Wrestling is cool again but the two biggest companies acting like little kids isn’t helping anything
Then Hunter goes on a show at WWE world acting like the boy who was just rejected by the girl for prom acting like he never wanted her making comments how certain people want more money to work less. This was shots taken at Okada and Ospreay so will responded. As good of a mind hunter has for the business we can all agree he ain’t in charge of WWE if he was banging Steph he wouldn’t be in that position today. That’s true what will says. Oldest joke about Hunter but Steph was an absolute ring rat back then too.
I just don’t see the advantage WWE has with these shots. You have mania. People say AEW is petty for this and you could say yes but history says many companies in wrestling history do this (sup TNA with Billy Gunn, sup NJPW and Yoshi Tatsu, hi WWE and bingo hall jokes about ROH, hey AEW on WWE references) everywhere.i just didn’t see the need for WWEs shots here. WWE just looks as petty. Like be the bigger company. Ok Punk you had a tough time you said the same crap when you left your current employer. Ok Hunter you got out bid on a few wrestlers. News flash not everyone these days wants to go to WWE and you can’t under negotiate people anymore like you did with most of the UK talent. Also one of those wrestlers was insulted by one of your top guys in Seth Rollins a few yrs back. Probably didn’t help.
Ok AEW you showed the footage. Tied it into a current storyline. Kind of funny. Let’s move on. I get you Will, you’re pissed off about Hunters comments. Real fans who follow you know how hard you worked. Let’s now move on. The jokes like FTR being shaved backs etc is funny I don’t mind little ribs like that. Hell many loved when punk was ****ting on WWE calling AEW a real company in his first promo back. Ok we get those jokes. They’re cool when not used all the time.
Both companies need to just get their **** together and move on at this point. Get back to wrestling or whatever makes them good. Wrestling is cool again but the two biggest companies acting like little kids isn’t helping anything
millertyme1
Footballguy
Even their own niche crowd turned against them and cheering Punk.
Then they actually tried to make it an angle with FTR and Balding Bucks. And it falls completely flat on its face. Shocking that happened as the one and only draw involved is no longer with their company
Couldn't have scripted it better
RIP All Empty Wrestling
Then they actually tried to make it an angle with FTR and Balding Bucks. And it falls completely flat on its face. Shocking that happened as the one and only draw involved is no longer with their company
Couldn't have scripted it better
RIP All Empty Wrestling
millertyme1
Footballguy
Tiny Khan now removed the footage from AEWs YouTube channel 
Someone didn't like the reception it got after airing it on national TV......
Someone didn't like the reception it got after airing it on national TV......
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
It's shocking how inept Tony is. The minute Punk came back and got in Perry's face, Tony should have been proactive and either gotten in between them or had someone there done so. Punk had already had that altercation the previous year with the Trampoline Sisters in the locker room (NDAs mean we don't know who threw the first punch), so we knew he could easily be provoked into throwing hands (and in that instance the previous year, you could argue that Punk did the provoking with that press conference). Plus, Punk claims that he told Tony to handle it or else he would, so Tony had to know that something could happen if he confronted Perry. And yet he stood there like a scared rabbit in the background doing nothing.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Jack Perry’s scapegoat merch has all soldout since last night
DJackson10
Footballguy
AEW did exactly what they wanted on Wedbesday. It’s all about them and punk after WWE just had the most successful mania weekend in their history.
hagmania
Footballguy
Shortsighted
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
And not true at all. The only chatter I've heard from my wrestling buddies is how stupid it was to show it. Literally, that was the whole conversation.
Edit to add: Now dirt sheets are a different animal, but even most of them said it was a non-issue.
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DJackson10
Footballguy
Well this is interesting. As of today, Jack Perry is completely sold out of his Scapegoat t-shirt on the website. Not only that, but NJPW announced that Perry has the top selling shirt for their promotion in back-to-back months.
Not only is the scapegoat shirt sold out but also the “Cry Me A River” shirt is as well.
Jack Perry is the #1 merch seller in New Japan Pro Wrestling in back to back months, for the two different shirts.
Not only is the scapegoat shirt sold out but also the “Cry Me A River” shirt is as well.
Jack Perry is the #1 merch seller in New Japan Pro Wrestling in back to back months, for the two different shirts.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I saw Tony Schiavone on the botchamaina Instagram page when the Punk/Perry footage was being cued up. He looked like he was sitting on a mountain of King Cobras he was so uncomfortable. You could tell he wanted to scream 'please, just stop before it's too late'.
DJackson10
Footballguy
From SRS
Moral in the back was down after segment but more so because of the dread of online BS to follow.
FTR we’re fine with the angle as long as it added to the fued with YB. Both teams were ok with it. FTR and Punk are still good from what he’s heard
Hope is this helps Jack Perry in his return plus having a match in Chicago building him up
AEW felt they were in a no win situation after Punks comments and WWE co distantly taking shots at them all weekend felt need to shoot back
Ospreay was more then happy to do the promo on Hunter calling him lazy.
Talent has laughed offf the idea of it being a company killer
AEW expected the online discourse
Moral in the back was down after segment but more so because of the dread of online BS to follow.
FTR we’re fine with the angle as long as it added to the fued with YB. Both teams were ok with it. FTR and Punk are still good from what he’s heard
Hope is this helps Jack Perry in his return plus having a match in Chicago building him up
AEW felt they were in a no win situation after Punks comments and WWE co distantly taking shots at them all weekend felt need to shoot back
Ospreay was more then happy to do the promo on Hunter calling him lazy.
Talent has laughed offf the idea of it being a company killer
AEW expected the online discourse
DJackson10
Footballguy
Fightful reports that over WrestleMania weekend, Drew Gulak was pulled from several appearances, including his seat at the 2024 WWE Hall of Fame ceremony. He is also not currently factored in future creative plans.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
Let's start a list of ideas/ angles that were worse or as bad than the idea of posting the video last night:
* The Shockmaster
* The Vince McMahon limo blowing up
* that'll put butts in the seats.
And go ......
* The Shockmaster
* The Vince McMahon limo blowing up
* that'll put butts in the seats.
And go ......
Corporation
Angry Bovine
Here's a link to the video: https://bleacherreport.com/videos/559727-young-bucks-cm-punk-footage
It is bad. Like really bad. I can't imagine who thought that was a good idea to release.
DJax, you are correct, Punk's behavior would not fly in the normal world. In the world of sports and sports entertainment, that's going to get a pass when you are talking about someone at Punk's level. Sometimes it is not the crime, it is who you are or who the victim is. Draymond is the perfect example, a slap on the wrist that would have gotten a normal person jailed. Ja Morant on the other hand found out that he crossed a line that didn't matter how big his talent was.
It is bad. Like really bad. I can't imagine who thought that was a good idea to release.
DJax, you are correct, Punk's behavior would not fly in the normal world. In the world of sports and sports entertainment, that's going to get a pass when you are talking about someone at Punk's level. Sometimes it is not the crime, it is who you are or who the victim is. Draymond is the perfect example, a slap on the wrist that would have gotten a normal person jailed. Ja Morant on the other hand found out that he crossed a line that didn't matter how big his talent was.
DJackson10
Footballguy
I said the source was Fightful for the last one.
As for Perry here it is.
Jack Perry's 'Scapegoat' T-Shirt Completely Sells Out, Perry Has Top Selling Shirt For NJPW
Jack Perry is moving some merchandise. Perry launched a new website entitled, ScapegoatShop, where he sells Scapegoat t-shirts, hats, and arm bands that
DJackson10
Footballguy
I think AEW is on a whole any press is good press right now. The footage is now out there so there’s no more “well we don’t have video” excuses.
And yeah I’m all about treating everyone equally. I don’t care who you are. People bring up MJ on Kerr completely different era. Todays world that just doesn’t seem to fly anymore. Also you got a bunch of keyboard warriors talking smack doing the samething to a coworker? Really?
Didn't Kane want to have at it with a corpse or something?
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
That's definitely worse. Can't believe I missed that one.
Bogart
Footballguy
Mae Young + Sexual Chocolate = Rubber Hand
Peak
Footballguy
Was just going to post this exact thing
Bogart
Footballguy
I think it might be the single worst thing wrestling has ever done. Worse than Katie Vick. Worse than Kennel From Hell match. Worst than making David Arquette world champ.Was just going to post this exact thing
DJackson10
Footballguy
Vince’s illigitnate son being hornswoggke
FTR back shaving
Half of the last decade in WWE outside a few things
DJackson10
Footballguy
Austin wasn’t at mania as him and WWE couldn’t agree to $$$$$ terms
DJackson10
Footballguy
To add to this it was reported a producer close to Rhonda and another employee close to her had Drew removed from his seat at the WWE HOF.
Drew was there and saw him at one point figured he had taken the wrong seat never saw him rest of the night. Speculation that friend is Shana Baysler. Rousey and Levesque are still friendly too and he’s a big fan of Shayna.
Imho I think they let Drew go fair or not after the whole McMahon thing. I could see him going to AEW as he has a few friends there and him and hugs wheeler opened up a gym together in Philly recently
DJackson10
Footballguy
Will Ospreay said during negotiations with company’s he told multiple places he wanted to stay in the UK for his wife (uK wrestler Alex Windsor) who lost her ex husband to suicide in 2020. This was said on Talk is Jericho interview they had together.
This interview is being brought up after Triple H of WWE made comments of only wanting guys who would grind for him. Will and others in the wrestling industry apparently feel this was a very low blow and disrespectful of Hunter given the fact he knew why this was one of the top reasons Ospreay didn’t sign with WWE as he and his wife would’ve had to move state side.
Hunter will get a pass on this given the all out stuff airing and all as no one seemed to really care or talk about Will’s promo.
This interview is being brought up after Triple H of WWE made comments of only wanting guys who would grind for him. Will and others in the wrestling industry apparently feel this was a very low blow and disrespectful of Hunter given the fact he knew why this was one of the top reasons Ospreay didn’t sign with WWE as he and his wife would’ve had to move state side.
Hunter will get a pass on this given the all out stuff airing and all as no one seemed to really care or talk about Will’s promo.
JB Breakfast Club
Footballguy
AEW fans are so sweaty to try to justify their fandom. It's okay to admit that WWE has been on fire for the past three years while also enjoying your show.
millertyme1
Footballguy
When you've done nothing in the big leagues or even America, you're going to have to prove yourself. That just isn't the case in wrestling
Or find a dumb money mark that'll overpay for a foreign guy that's no draw in America.
All the 3 recent 'game changers' Tiny's paid and the ratings lower than ever. Having to resort to going to well again off a guy no longer in the company for ratings
It's embarrassing
Or find a dumb money mark that'll overpay for a foreign guy that's no draw in America.
All the 3 recent 'game changers' Tiny's paid and the ratings lower than ever. Having to resort to going to well again off a guy no longer in the company for ratings
It's embarrassing
DJackson10
Footballguy
Tony schiavone was acting in character to the Young Bucks like he has for weeks since the Bucks started their EVP gimmick. Tony was apparently on board with the footage being released.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Tony schiavone was legitimately annoyed at the CM Punk/Jack Perry footage stuff being shown this week on AEW programming.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Some people just don’t like watching an overproduced product. That’s fine. People like what they like. There’s people out there who think nickel back is the greatest rock band out right now. Others disagree.When you've done nothing in the big leagues or even America, you're going to have to prove yourself. That just isn't the case in wrestling
Or find a dumb money mark that'll overpay for a foreign guy that's no draw in America.
All the 3 recent 'game changers' Tiny's paid and the ratings lower than ever. Having to resort to going to well again off a guy no longer in the company for ratings
It's embarrassing
Personally for me I liked the Roman Cost match but the absolute ****ery of it was pretty blantant it was happening. Ending was overproduced big time with multiple run ins. There’s really no need for Undertaker there or a stone cold. Ok have a few guys to help Cody with the blood line run ins cool. The Seth Shield thing was good story telling (hey WWE did long term booking that made sense for once!!) but it could’ve ended there without the overproduction.
I personally enjoyed that super JR match if Osprey vs Ricochet that Vader and other boomer/old timers **** on. I like watching the moves. Some like myself love the in ring story telling. I’m shocked WWE fans haven’t **** on Heyman giving AEW props and how the company reminds him of some of the early ECw stuff.
Not everyone likes the WWE soap opera over produced drama. That’s perfectly fine.
Not sure why people always have to **** on what people like. Punk was wrong for what he did, and Tony should’ve handled it better and fired punk prior. Punks fans are always going to think he’s right where others see Punks history of being toxic in a locker room. You aren’t going to change peoples opinions at this point. It’s like arguing politics. Most people have their mind made up and that’s final.
SRS said it best the other day when someone made a comment on his stream. He’s sick and tired of the ******** himself. Most of the people complaining about AEW don’t really want it to succeed unless it’s how they like it or under the WWE banner. Competition is good. You don’t get the bloodline e story without AEW. WWE is better today because of AEW. I think he summed that up perfectly
DJackson10
Footballguy
If you are reading that from Wade Keller he’s been known for a lot of wrong on AEW these days. It seems like the only legit reporting in the dirt sheets on AEW is coming from Fightful. Wade came out saying Will didn’t want to do the promo but Fightful came out saying Will felt insult by Hunter and told Tony he’d take responsibility for any backlash too it. Will even put the promo up on his socials.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
See the post above yours.
Using your posting style, anyone can make up anything and say it is from this site or that site without putting the link (as the mod later said in a post I did not quote so as not clutter up the post with a ton of quotes, just saying the site it came from is not a link). If you are going to dominate this thread with 299 updates a week with supposed news, at least have the courtesy to supply links.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Agreed. And believe me, I have zero loyalty to WWE or any organization, especially once where Triple H (whom I have NEVER liked) is in charge. Anyone who likes pro wrestling should want it to be good anywhere. It just so happens that WWE is doing well lately, while the AEW is looking like a clown show.
Deranged Hermit
Not cool & Pissed
I did like Magnum, but I always thought he was a bit overrated. David and Owen: awesome as a heel or baby face and great workers. Magnum needed to be carried, but he could be carried to a very good match (Flair and Tully, I'm looking at you).
DJackson10
Footballguy
THE SCAPEGOAT Jack Perry has arrived in CHICAGO!!!!
CRY ME A RIVER ON THE BACK OF HIS JACKET WITH THE CHICAGO FLAG DRAPED AROUND HIS SHOULDERS. Had guys drapped over him in riot gear too. lol. Mixed cheers and boos too
CRY ME A RIVER ON THE BACK OF HIS JACKET WITH THE CHICAGO FLAG DRAPED AROUND HIS SHOULDERS. Had guys drapped over him in riot gear too. lol. Mixed cheers and boos too
DJackson10
Footballguy
SOLO SIKOA HAS TAKEN OVER THE BLOODLINE BY FORCE. KICKED OUT JIMMY USO AND BROUGHT IN TAMA TONGA!!!!
HEYMAN TRIES TO CALL ROMAN AND GETS HIS PHONE SMASHED!
HEYMAN TRIES TO CALL ROMAN AND GETS HIS PHONE SMASHED!
