*** OFFICIAL *** rap super group draft (3 Viewers)

[Major]

My leftover team:

Special Ed

OC

Ed OG

Treach

Jean Grae

Dan The Automator

Evil Dee/Beatminerz

 

[Usual21]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

 

[Kenny Powers]

In no order, the rest of my list was (maybe 1 or 2 of these got picked and I didnt update):

MC

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aceyalone

sadat x

buckshot

slug

lyrics born

hell razah

akrobatik

mr lif

jay electronica

j-live

asheru

skyzoo

Producers:

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dan the automator (if I had Prince Paul I wouldve def picked Automator)

dangermouse

black milk

jazzy jeff

ant

scott la rock

beatnuts

MF Doom

rjd2

blue sky black death

beatminerz

organized noize

neptunes

And agreed on why the Beasties didnt get picked. If I couldve pick the group as producers, I mightve gone that route.

 

[Kev4029]

An interesting flex that I think should have/could have been drafted is Damien Marley. Also agree on Tech N9ne, he should have been drafted, even if he does put on the fruitiest live show I've ever seen.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Dan The Automator was near the top of my remaining list.

and 7L is ok but being often paired up with :X :X Esoteric :X :X doesn't help his cause.

 

[Frostillicus]

This morning the Saved by the Bell where Zack, Slater, and Screech rap in a dream sequence was on. Any one of those dudes would have made a sweet flex.

 

[Exit 1]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

I know Treach....the rest of the guys.....are you just making up names now, buddy?

 

[SacramentoBob]

Dan The Automator was near the top of my remaining list.and 7L is ok but being often paired up with :X :X Esoteric :X :X doesn't help his cause.

Esoteric is awful. He was decent on the Celph Titled/Buckwild LP though. Sounds like he's improved since I heard him last.

 

[SacramentoBob]

I like Sadat X more than I like Grand Puba. Ron> why didn't you draft Smoothe the Hustler?

 

[SproutDaddy]

Big fan of J Live. Thought he would get picked.

 

[SacramentoBob]

We needed a one hit wonder category or something similar.

I'd take DES from Derelect Camp (first guy). He rips this verse.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Wordsworth. Was my favorite rapper for a few years. Loved his work on the Lyricist Lounge Show too.

 

[D_House]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

I know Treach....the rest of the guys.....are you just making up names now, buddy?

Dice Raw guests on a lot of Roots tracks, I always really like his verses. He put out a solo album a long time ago but I guess it bombed. I'm pleasantly surprised that he was mentioned.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Dres from Black Sheep put out one good album.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

I know Treach....the rest of the guys.....are you just making up names now, buddy?

Dice Raw guests on a lot of Roots tracks, I always really like his verses. He put out a solo album a long time ago but I guess it bombed. I'm pleasantly surprised that he was mentioned.

his guests on Roots tracks were few and far between after illadelph halflife, no? Pretty sure their was conflict between him and the group and he wasnt on another album until Rising down (12 years). I just realized I dont even have their last 3 albums I havent really kept up with hip hop the last few year, but I know all those guys Exit

 

[SacramentoBob]

Now for the list you've all been waiting for. Top 5 Wu affiliates:

1) Holocaust. I've never heard a guy rap like this, ever. Crazy mix of hardcore street, horror core and sci fi. His imagery is ridiculous "spittin darts from the tip of a glacier used as my hideout/rock crusher german suplex while spines slide out". PCP ate his brain up and he is easily the top 5 weirdest/corniest rapper ever now. I read something funny RZA said about him during the transition from Holocaust to Warcloud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss5hdsvI2x4#t=03m10s

4) Timbo King

5) Killah Priest

Depending on my mood, I could switch 4 and 5.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

I know Treach....the rest of the guys.....are you just making up names now, buddy?

Dice Raw guests on a lot of Roots tracks, I always really like his verses. He put out a solo album a long time ago but I guess it bombed. I'm pleasantly surprised that he was mentioned.

Hes also a part of the Money Makin Jam Boys.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

I know Treach....the rest of the guys.....are you just making up names now, buddy?

Dice Raw guests on a lot of Roots tracks, I always really like his verses. He put out a solo album a long time ago but I guess it bombed. I'm pleasantly surprised that he was mentioned.

It bombed. I remember liking a few tracks off of it. Apparently not on Youtube right now. His verse on the Lesson Pt 1 was sick.

 

[D_House]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

I know Treach....the rest of the guys.....are you just making up names now, buddy?

Dice Raw guests on a lot of Roots tracks, I always really like his verses. He put out a solo album a long time ago but I guess it bombed. I'm pleasantly surprised that he was mentioned.

his guests on Roots tracks were few and far between after illadelph halflife, no? Pretty sure their was conflict between him and the group and he wasnt on another album until Rising down (12 years). I just realized I dont even have their last 3 albums I havent really kept up with hip hop the last few year, but I know all those guys Exit

Off the top of my head he was definitely on Things Fall Apart (Adrenaline) and Game Theory (Here I Come), and he is on a couple of songs from the latest.ETA: wikipedia has his guest spots, he's been on every Roots album since Do You Want More??

 

[SacramentoBob]

Dres from Black Sheep put out one good album.

Also did an MC Hammer diss track.Black Sheep - H.A.Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwhJaGJScdk

 

[SacramentoBob]

FYI Black Sheep just put out a new LP last year. I think it's just Dres solo with the Black Sheep name.

 

[Usual21]

Thought about Treach, Elzhi, Termanology, Skyzoo, Reks, Dice Raw plus others I can't remember right now.

I know Treach....the rest of the guys.....are you just making up names now, buddy?

Elzhi
by The Roots. he starts around the 2:34 mark. Kills this verse.

 

[Major]

Big fan of J Live. Thought he would get picked.

forgot about him....loved his first 3 or 4 albums...so much talent from writing great rhymes to producing excellent tracks. I saw him live in NYC to a grand audience of 50-75 people

 

[SacramentoBob]

Termanology

Love this.

 

[Major]

Now for the list you've all been waiting for. Top 5 Wu affiliates:1) Holocaust. I've never heard a guy rap like this, ever. Crazy mix of hardcore street, horror core and sci fi. His imagery is ridiculous "spittin darts from the tip of a glacier used as my hideout/rock crusher german suplex while spines slide out". PCP ate his brain up and he is easily the top 5 weirdest/corniest rapper ever now. I read something funny RZA said about him during the transition from Holocaust to Warcloud.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss5hdsvI2x4#t=03m10shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u33sSMvsx4chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWR3Zhw4S2wHe basically just rambles on these days in a weird voice.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1QXXOIync&2) Street Life aka Inspectah Deck, Jr. His lead off verse on Grid Iron Rap was very Rebel INS like. Rarely heard a verse by him that I didn't like.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIECFMdqhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9N1mU5YhAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r64WPiUNBSo#t=00m52s3) Killa Sin from Killarmy The rest of Killarmy was terrible on the first LP, with 9th Prince (RZA's brother) standing out as particularly bad. It was a bunch of guys who thought it was a race between his rhymes and the beat with no regard for flow or delivery. Killa Sin really stood out. Anytime I listen to that LP I pretty much just wait for his verse then skip to the next song. 2nd Killarmy LP, Dom Pachino stepped his game up so there were 2 MCs worth listening to, plus two cameos from Holocaust.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg3vh52bGJEt=02m10shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qoi3yPJq_k#t=00m44shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Td-riVsa8#t=02m20s4) Timbo King5) Killah PriestDepending on my mood, I could switch 4 and 5.

Shyheim The Rugged Child would murder those fools

 

[Usual21]

Termanology

You and me both. This track is crazy and Term just rides the hell out of it. Perfect combo.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Big fan of J Live. Thought he would get picked.

forgot about him....loved his first 3 or 4 albums...so much talent from writing great rhymes to producing excellent tracks. I saw him live in NYC to a grand audience of 50-75 people

Jealous!

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Big fan of J Live. Thought he would get picked.

forgot about him....loved his first 3 or 4 albums...so much talent from writing great rhymes to producing excellent tracks. I saw him live in NYC to a grand audience of 50-75 people

Jealous!

He puts on a great live show. I saw him, beatnuts, immortal technique and a few other heads many years back. Real small show. But i like those small venues.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Now for the list you've all been waiting for. Top 5 Wu affiliates:1) Holocaust. I've never heard a guy rap like this, ever. Crazy mix of hardcore street, horror core and sci fi. His imagery is ridiculous "spittin darts from the tip of a glacier used as my hideout/rock crusher german suplex while spines slide out". PCP ate his brain up and he is easily the top 5 weirdest/corniest rapper ever now. I read something funny RZA said about him during the transition from Holocaust to Warcloud.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss5hdsvI2x4#t=03m10shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u33sSMvsx4chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWR3Zhw4S2wHe basically just rambles on these days in a weird voice.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1QXXOIync&2) Street Life aka Inspectah Deck, Jr. His lead off verse on Grid Iron Rap was very Rebel INS like. Rarely heard a verse by him that I didn't like.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIECFMdqhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9N1mU5YhAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r64WPiUNBSo#t=00m52s3) Killa Sin from Killarmy The rest of Killarmy was terrible on the first LP, with 9th Prince (RZA's brother) standing out as particularly bad. It was a bunch of guys who thought it was a race between his rhymes and the beat with no regard for flow or delivery. Killa Sin really stood out. Anytime I listen to that LP I pretty much just wait for his verse then skip to the next song. 2nd Killarmy LP, Dom Pachino stepped his game up so there were 2 MCs worth listening to, plus two cameos from Holocaust.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg3vh52bGJEt=02m10shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qoi3yPJq_k#t=00m44shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Td-riVsa8#t=02m20s4) Timbo King5) Killah PriestDepending on my mood, I could switch 4 and 5.

Shyheim The Rugged Child would murder those fools

Shyheim doesn't consider himself a Wu affiliate.

 

[Usual21]

Other guys I just remembered:

MCs

Billy Danze

Lil Fame

Chino XL

Starang Wondah

Phife

El Da Sensei

Tame One

Freddie Foxx

Wale

Producers

Marco Polo

Statik Selektah

DR Period

 

[Professor S]

Now for the list you've all been waiting for. Top 5 Wu affiliates:1) Holocaust. I've never heard a guy rap like this, ever. Crazy mix of hardcore street, horror core and sci fi. His imagery is ridiculous "spittin darts from the tip of a glacier used as my hideout/rock crusher german suplex while spines slide out". PCP ate his brain up and he is easily the top 5 weirdest/corniest rapper ever now. I read something funny RZA said about him during the transition from Holocaust to Warcloud.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss5hdsvI2x4#t=03m10shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u33sSMvsx4chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWR3Zhw4S2wHe basically just rambles on these days in a weird voice.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1QXXOIync&2) Street Life aka Inspectah Deck, Jr. His lead off verse on Grid Iron Rap was very Rebel INS like. Rarely heard a verse by him that I didn't like.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLIECFMdqhohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9N1mU5YhAhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r64WPiUNBSo#t=00m52s3) Killa Sin from Killarmy The rest of Killarmy was terrible on the first LP, with 9th Prince (RZA's brother) standing out as particularly bad. It was a bunch of guys who thought it was a race between his rhymes and the beat with no regard for flow or delivery. Killa Sin really stood out. Anytime I listen to that LP I pretty much just wait for his verse then skip to the next song. 2nd Killarmy LP, Dom Pachino stepped his game up so there were 2 MCs worth listening to, plus two cameos from Holocaust.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg3vh52bGJEt=02m10shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qoi3yPJq_k#t=00m44shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Td-riVsa8#t=02m20s4) Timbo King5) Killah PriestDepending on my mood, I could switch 4 and 5.

Shyheim The Rugged Child would murder those fools

Obviously I think KP is #1 here, but I can see the argument for Killa Sin or Shyheim. Holocaust had a few great verses but his brain turned to mush too quickly and his lyrics followed. Street Life seemed solid but unspectacular - rarely did he leave me wanting to hear more. Could really care less about Timbo King or any other Wu affiliates.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Wordsworth:

Love his lead off verse in this.

Tommy Tee - Day by Day (feat. A.L., Talib Kweli, Punchline & Wordsworth)

Couldn't find this on youtube.

Soul Supreme - Regardless (feat. Wordsworth, Moe & Illin P)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/94545119c4063483/

 

[Major]

Now for the list you've all been waiting for. Top 5 Wu affiliates:

1) Holocaust. I've never heard a guy rap like this, ever. Crazy mix of hardcore street, horror core and sci fi. His imagery is ridiculous "spittin darts from the tip of a glacier used as my hideout/rock crusher german suplex while spines slide out". PCP ate his brain up and he is easily the top 5 weirdest/corniest rapper ever now. I read something funny RZA said about him during the transition from Holocaust to Warcloud.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss5hdsvI2x4#t=03m10s

was pretty nice...these name drops are bringing back some memories

 

[Usual21]

Wordsworth:Love his lead off verse in this.Tommy Tee - Day by Day (feat. A.L., Talib Kweli, Punchline & Wordsworth)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbuknzCwdhcCouldn't find this on youtube.Soul Supreme - Regardless (feat. Wordsworth, Moe & Illin P)http://www.zshare.net/audio/94545119c4063483/

Didn't have Punch and Words have an album out if not a mixtape? The eMC album is one of my favorite of the last 10 years.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Other guys I just remembered:

MCs

Lil Fame

Starang Wondah

Tame One

My top 3 off your list.

DR Period

Not a fan of his production on the first MOP LP. Smoothe the Hustler LP was great though.Oh, can't believe I forgot to mention this guy. Ski!!!

Check the credits on those first couple Jay-Z LPs. Very solid contributions. John Blaze track is one of my favorite posse cuts of all times and his beat was crazy. Did almost the entire debut Camp Lo LP.

Shamus - Big Willie Style

 

[SacramentoBob]

Honorable mention to RNS for being one of RZA's main influences/mentors for production. I think RZA borrowed his ASR 10 to make Enter the Wu-Tang.

This sounds like something RZA would go on to make, but it was RNS.

UMCs - Any Way the Wind Blows

 

[SacramentoBob]

Wordsworth:Love his lead off verse in this.Tommy Tee - Day by Day (feat. A.L., Talib Kweli, Punchline & Wordsworth)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbuknzCwdhcCouldn't find this on youtube.Soul Supreme - Regardless (feat. Wordsworth, Moe & Illin P)http://www.zshare.net/audio/94545119c4063483/

Didn't have Punch and Words have an album out if not a mixtape? The eMC album is one of my favorite of the last 10 years.

Yeah they definitely had an EP out. Wordsworth's debut LP sold like 200 copies.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Wordsworth:Love his lead off verse in this.Tommy Tee - Day by Day (feat. A.L., Talib Kweli, Punchline & Wordsworth)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbuknzCwdhcCouldn't find this on youtube.Soul Supreme - Regardless (feat. Wordsworth, Moe & Illin P)http://www.zshare.net/audio/94545119c4063483/

Didn't have Punch and Words have an album out if not a mixtape? The eMC album is one of my favorite of the last 10 years.

words absolutely destroyed that eMC album. His best work to date.

 

[Usual21]

Other guys I just remembered:

MCs

Lil Fame

Starang Wondah

Tame One

My top 3 off your list.DR Period

Not a fan of his production on the first MOP LP. Smoothe the Hustler LP was great though.Oh, can't believe I forgot to mention this guy. Ski!!!

Check the credits on those first couple Jay-Z LPs. Very solid contributions. John Blaze track is one of my favorite posse cuts of all times and his beat was crazy. Did almost the entire debut Camp Lo LP.

Shamus - Big Willie Style

 

[Premier]

I almost took Mic Geronimo and/or Royal Flush based off of their one good album.

Well, for Flush it was like 5 good songs...but I really enjoyed them.

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Btw, P-Money is the UK rapper of choice. Although Tinie Tempah is getting the love from the U.S. right now.

 

[Major]

I almost took Mic Geronimo and/or Royal Flush based off of their one good album. Well, for Flush it was like 5 good songs...but I really enjoyed them.

Great albums...I was looking at Kurious Jorge for similar reasons. Constipated Monkey was

 

[SacramentoBob]

I almost took Mic Geronimo and/or Royal Flush based off of their one good album. Well, for Flush it was like 5 good songs...but I really enjoyed them.

I have Mic Geronimo - The Natural and Royal Flush - Ghetto Millionaire on heavy rotation in the car. Listen to them each several times over the course of a month. I remember being shocked as hell when Mic G's single off his sophomore LP heavily featured Puff Daddy. My world was turned upside down. I guess I shouldn't have been that surprised since Irv Gotti did a lot of the production on the first LP.Speaking of that first LP, the guest appearance lineup he had is probably the greatest collection of unknowns at the time that would go on to find mainstream success in the future. It came out several years before most of them were releasing their first albums. The posse track with O.C. is probably my favorite. Always put that on rewind.Jay-ZDMXJa RuleLost BoyzMic Geronimo - Men Vs Many (feat O.C., Royal Flush & C-Lo)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwo3-21kQKg

 

[Usual21]

 

[SacramentoBob]

Really loved doing this. I could talk about hip-hop all day and never get tired.

 

[Usual21]

Really loved doing this. I could talk about hip-hop all day and never get tired.

 

[Professor S]

Really loved doing this. I could talk about hip-hop all day and never get tired.

Me too.

 

[PinkydaPimp]

Really loved doing this. I could talk about hip-hop all day and never get tired.

Me too.

 

[Wu-banger]

FLEX-

Could go anywhere here.... going to go with a singer that is at home over soulfull melody's as well as hip-hop beats ..likes to do drugs, bang rappers and is dead.

.............no , not Mya...she is still alive.

AMY WINEHOUSE

only two albums , her debut Frank was great and Back to Black was PERFECT.

Her and Ghostface

F' Me Pumps..... One of my favorites.

ps-- not a huge fan of this flex being added mid-draft and the fact it could be anything...but love Amy Winehouse.

Yeah, I thought this was an MC/producer draft. I don't think Mary J, Badu or Winehouse really fit the criteria. If that's the case, give me Marvin Gaye for my flex.

agreed.

I also agreed and referenced that in my post....but with MJB and Badu gone I wanted to add the same element....debated between Winehouse and Alicia Keys (since Swizz was onboard).If it was just MC s or Producers at Flex I would have grabbed Styles P. Or maybe Mad Skillz aka Skillz for his year end wrap ups.

 

[bonesman]

Btw, P-Money is the UK rapper of choice. Although Tinie Tempah is getting the love from the U.S. right now.

Cheeers. I love me some UKHH. Jehst and Yungun are tops to me mate. Honorable mention to Roots Manuva, Phi Life Cypher, Braintax and Skinnyman too.