RoarinSonoran
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Now imagine it was black.
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*** Official Raw Milk Thread *** (3 Viewers)
- Thread starter Maurile Tremblay
- Start date
Ignoramus
Footballguy
Jules: Okay, so tell me again about the raw milk bars.
Maurile: Okay, watcha wanna know?
Jules: Raw milk is legal now right?
Maurile: Yeah, it's legal, but it ain't 100% legal. I mean, you can't just walk into a... restaurant, order a glass and start sipping away. I mean, they want you to drink it in your home or certain designated places.
Jules: And those are raw milk bars?
Maurile: Yeah, it breaks down like this, okay, it's legal to buy it, it's legal to own it, and if you're the proprietor of a raw milk bar, it's legal to sell it. It's legal to carry it, but, but, that doesn't matter, because... get a load of this... if you get stopped by a cop in California, it's illegal for them to search you. I mean, that's the right the cops in California DON'T have.
Jules: Oh man, I'm going, that's all there is to it, I'm ####in' going.
Maurile: I know baby, you dig it the most...
Maurile: Okay, watcha wanna know?
Jules: Raw milk is legal now right?
Maurile: Yeah, it's legal, but it ain't 100% legal. I mean, you can't just walk into a... restaurant, order a glass and start sipping away. I mean, they want you to drink it in your home or certain designated places.
Jules: And those are raw milk bars?
Maurile: Yeah, it breaks down like this, okay, it's legal to buy it, it's legal to own it, and if you're the proprietor of a raw milk bar, it's legal to sell it. It's legal to carry it, but, but, that doesn't matter, because... get a load of this... if you get stopped by a cop in California, it's illegal for them to search you. I mean, that's the right the cops in California DON'T have.
Jules: Oh man, I'm going, that's all there is to it, I'm ####in' going.
Maurile: I know baby, you dig it the most...
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Just because I'm registered to vote in the state doesn't mean I live there.I live in a place where raw milk cheeses have been legal forever and nothing will change that.
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
Yep, that's what folks here do. ...in Tennessee. We've got cows out the ying yang just 10 miles from my house and I can't drive up and buy milk.I grew up in the country ON A DAIRY FARM. We sold milk daily. We were factory direct to you, baby. $1 buck a gallon, you bring your own jug.
FatMax
Member
I thought you moved back? Or are coming back or something. I can't remember worth a damn.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I'm here until mid-Dec. Got about 5-6 more weeks left. I suppose I should be eating all the raw-milk cheese I can find. Maybe I'll bring some back and mail it to Maurile.You find me a job in SF or Oakland yet?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
You must have missed the title of this thread: Raw Milk to be effectively outlawed in California, starting January 2008
FatMax
Member
Sorry, no. I could get you in with some guys who design/prototype stuff for UCD ag research, but you'd be nowhere near the bay area.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Raw milk doesn't make people sick, lactose makes raw milk make people sick.
Drifter
Footballguy
Right, but you were complaining about California being a Nanny state. In this context, that makes no sense since they are one of the last remaning states to have allowed it.
FatMax
Member
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
We tried to tell you $60,000 was the state poverty line in California but you all don't believe us
The Z Machine
Footballguy
They need someone willing to tele-commute (and come in on the Captiol Corridor once every blue moon)?Seriously though, if you hear of something in the Bay (and not in Mountain View or Palo Alto) lemme know, aight?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I consider it one more thing that's been added to the nanny-state inventory.
A-. Well Done....
FatMax
Member
I'll keep my ears open. What sort of thing are you looking for specifically? We've talk about it before, but it's been awhile.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
:spitsmilkonmonitor:
Ozymandias
Footballguy
You ain't got milk no mo'.
By federal law, no raw-milk cheese is allowed to be sold unless it is aged at least 60 days. That's fine for cheddar, Parmigiano Reggiano, Pecorino Romano, Manchego, Comté, Laguiole, and Roquefort. But it means that there's no such thing as top-notch Brie or Camembert or mozzarella or any other young cheeses in the States.
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Hormones and antibiotics don't go in raw milk. They go in conventional, pasteurized milk.The raw milk producers in California raise their cows on pasture -- about an acre of pasture per cow. Not in feedlots, where cows stand in their own feces their whole lives and are generally diseased (hence the need for antibiotics and pasteurization).that's where you get the yummy growth hormones and antibiotics.
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That's another point in favor of raw milk. People who are lactose-intolerant lack the enzyme needed to digest lactose, the sugar in milk.Milk straight from the cow already has those enzymes in it. The enzymes are destroyed during pasteurization.Something like 10% of the U.S. population are unable to digest pasteurized milk well, but it's more like 1% for raw milk.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Can I buy skim "raw" milk?
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
They don't give growth hormones to cows to make them produce more milk?Hormones and antibiotics don't go in raw milk. They go in conventional, pasteurized milk.The raw milk producers in California raise their cows on pasture -- about an acre of pasture per cow. Not in feedlots, where cows stand in their own feces their whole lives and are generally diseased (hence the need for antibiotics and pasteurization).that's where you get the yummy growth hormones and antibiotics.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
you probably just skimmed the thread.
I think of it like this. How much of a particular food would it take to constitute an entire meal, if that's all you were having? Not that a meal should comprise only a single food -- but for purposes of determining reasonable cost, how much of a food would it take to constitute a meal?For milk, I think a quart would be a meal amount. I'd be full after that.$18/gallon = $4.50/quart = $4.50/meal.I think that's reasonable.For eggs, I think 6 eggs would be a meal. So if eggs are $3/dozen, a meal would be $1.50.For bread, I think half a loaf would be a meal. If a loaf is $5, a meal would be $2.50From there you can mix and match -- say, a meal consisting of three eggs, half a cup of milk, and two slices of bread with butter and honey -- and the total cost cannot be greater than a meal's worth of the most expensive ingredient (in this case, milk).I'm perfectly willing to pay $4.50 for a meal, so milk at $18/gallon is in.
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No.They don't give growth hormones to cows to make them produce more milk?Hormones and antibiotics don't go in raw milk. They go in conventional, pasteurized milk.The raw milk producers in California raise their cows on pasture -- about an acre of pasture per cow. Not in feedlots, where cows stand in their own feces their whole lives and are generally diseased (hence the need for antibiotics and pasteurization).that's where you get the yummy growth hormones and antibiotics.
Mrs. BSR
Footballguy
Interesting.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
No whey.You guys are going to milk this for all you can.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I know there are some organic dairies that don't use hormones or anti-biotics as well as grass feeding their cows. You can buy steaks from similar places as well, but you'll pay a pretty penny for them.I imagine that the decrease in production efficiency leads to the $18/gallon price of the raw milk.Thanks for the heads up Maurile. Most of my favorite Spanish cheeses are aged raw-milk cheeses (Idiazábal and Cabrales), both of which I've seen in the US.They don't give growth hormones to cows to make them produce more milk?Hormones and antibiotics don't go in raw milk. They go in conventional, pasteurized milk.The raw milk producers in California raise their cows on pasture -- about an acre of pasture per cow. Not in feedlots, where cows stand in their own feces their whole lives and are generally diseased (hence the need for antibiotics and pasteurization).that's where you get the yummy growth hormones and antibiotics.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Just cheezy. People getting creamed in here.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Edit: beat by mere seconds.I know there's a whole lot bottled up someplace.No whey.
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Yo Gurt, Girl!Rudi, you're creaming them today.No whey.
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
Yogurt to be kidding.Just cheezy. People getting creamed in here.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
:X I beat that ###!Yogurt to be kidding.Just cheezy. People getting creamed in here.
Ignoramus
Footballguy
Just cheezy. People getting creamed in here.
You butter step up your game, Z; dickey moe whipped you there.
FatMax
Member
Nothing gets pasteurize, does it?
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
That was gouda.
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
ooo.. good one./end
RudiStein
*Not really a bail bondsman
Marijuana
St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
My wife is currently flush with massive jugs of fresh milk.
How much per gallon is that going for? Right now she is wasting it all on the baby.
TIA
How much per gallon is that going for? Right now she is wasting it all on the baby.
TIA
FatMax
Member
That was blantantly stolen from Smoo (RIP), so I can't take credit. Any udders will be mine though.That was gouda.
Sand
Footballguy
There is a decent sized effort to get hemp legalized (which I fully support). But anything with any THG in it is illegal (some helps contain parts per million).For hemp, I'd agree. For marijuana, not so much.
bostonfred
Footballguy
lmao
