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Thanks to Pasquino for steering me here. I'm starting a new job soon and relocating and am looking to buy a new home for the family. My focus is not investing but more finding out if there are any specific avenues for finding a good buy on a home I wish to live in. Any help would be appreciated.

 
Thanks to Mike Anderson for doing some heavy lifting here lately. :confused: I'm more into the commercial aspects of RE now (mobile home parks specifically as of late) but I'm always looking in the Mid-Atlantic (Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, WV and DE). Pretty much within 4-5 hours of a drive of Baltimore area.
Jeff-I'd be interested in hearing a little about buying a MH park. Do they go up for sale on the mls, newspaper, or do you specifically seek out the owner and offer to purchase?
I could tell you but then I'd have to kill you :suds:PM me and I'll advise you on a good site :lol:As far as why I like MHPs, you need to seek them out and that often leads to a good deal. They are somewhat hard to sell - mostly because financing is tough for them.Holding MHPs can be quite a cash cow.
 
Thanks to Pasquino for steering me here. I'm starting a new job soon and relocating and am looking to buy a new home for the family. My focus is not investing but more finding out if there are any specific avenues for finding a good buy on a home I wish to live in. Any help would be appreciated.
Hey Warhogs,Start by naming what area of the planet you're moving to......
 
Thanks to Mike Anderson for doing some heavy lifting here lately. :thumbup:I'm more into the commercial aspects of RE now (mobile home parks specifically as of late) but I'm always looking in the Mid-Atlantic (Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, WV and DE). Pretty much within 4-5 hours of a drive of Baltimore area.
Jeff-I'd be interested in hearing a little about buying a MH park. Do they go up for sale on the mls, newspaper, or do you specifically seek out the owner and offer to purchase?
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I've been reading this thread on and off and it's finally time for me to ask some advice.

From my understanding of tax laws, on the house you live in, you can deduct the interest from your mortgage on the amount of your original mortgage PLUS up to $100,000 in excess for any reason, or any amount as long as the money is used for major improvements.

edit - answered in another thread.

 
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I'm not exactly sure what you're asking re buying another property but as far as mortgage interest goes, the bank should send you a 1098 at the end of the year, which is your interest paid on your mortgage(s). This is the amount you can write off.

I'd be VERY cautious about buying a property that "must close in thirty days" at 100K under market value.

 
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking re buying another property but as far as mortgage interest goes, the bank should send you a 1098 at the end of the year, which is your interest paid on your mortgage(s). This is the amount you can write off.

I'd be VERY cautious about buying a property that "must close in thirty days" at 100K under market value.
I understand the concern, but it would make more sense to you if I fully explained the deal.Regarding the mortgage interest, there are rules as to what interest can be deducted, it's not as simple as everything on your 1098. I started another thread and there's some good discussion on it here: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=351649

 
Link to story

Best Places For Real Estate Deals

By Matt Woolsey, Forbes.com

October 8, 2007

Home sales have sunk to their lowest levels since 2001. Investors are jumping ship, foreclosures are mounting and lenders are exercising caution.

Still, there are areas of the country where it makes sense for some to buy. That's because, in a market slump, sellers eager to unload their homes often accept less money from buyers. New construction also slows. Both bode well for buyers hoping to score a deal--if the market in which they are buying is expected to experience increased sales.

To find such places, we paired with Moody's Economy.com to research current home sales patterns and sales projections in the country's 40 biggest real estate markets. Based on models that estimated housing inventory, sales rates and turnover for 2008, we arrived at a list of markets that are experiencing price stalls or declines, but where over the coming year are expected to provide deals for buyers.

A buyers' market in the purest sense is one where there are far more sellers than buyers, creating a supply and demand dynamic that benefit those looking to invest in a home. However, by that definition, a floundering market like Detroit is a good buyers' market because prices are dropping and inventory is high.

"A market with declining prices and few sales is a strong buyers' market," says Anthony Sanders, professor of real estate finance at Arizona State University. "But it is also a risky market given that prices could decline further."

With that in mind, we required the slumping or neutral markets on our list to have expected volume and turnover increases, based on sales and inventory models run by Moody's Economy.com.

The results turn out three types of markets and three types of deals.

The first are undervalued, affordable markets like Fort Worth, Texas, which haven't felt huge post-boom price corrections, but where there is an expected acceleration in sales volume, making now the time to buy.

Second are markets like Long Island, N.Y., and Washington, D.C. These are traditionally strong markets that are recovering from speculation, especially in the D.C. condo market and by Long Island's second-home buyers. Once these areas stabilize, the market as a whole should return to health.

"Long Island is continuing to slip, but a modest amount," says Jonathan Miller, president of Miller Samuel, a New York-based real estate appraisal and consultancy firm. "In [Long Island] the upper-end market was the market of choice for speculation and tear downs."

But economists caution that while over the next year the dust may settle in these 10 spots, buyers should be prepared for future swings. This is especially true in the case of riskier markets like Orlando and Las Vegas, where the expected increase in sales volume and housing turnover doesn't necessarily mean that the price trough is imminent.

"Housing market activity revives when house prices decline sufficiently to restore housing affordability and entice buyers to step up and make a purchase," says Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com. "Some markets are already approaching those price points, in many others prices will have to decline much more to get to that point."
Best Places For Real Estate Deals

1. Fort Worth 2. Kansas City 3. Houston 4. Cleveland 5. Denver
 
what do you think about the real estate market in Jersey City, NJ. 07302. How about Union City, 07087.

I have been thinking about these two areas for a while. Jersey City especially looks ready to explode. What are your thoughts? Thanks.

 
what do you think about the real estate market in Jersey City, NJ. 07302. How about Union City, 07087. I have been thinking about these two areas for a while. Jersey City especially looks ready to explode. What are your thoughts? Thanks.
I try not to comment on markets I don't know directly.I'm starting to look more at the national view / "big picture", but real estate is highly local.
 
You may remember that we do Downtown Rentals where the vast majority of my stock in 1 and 2 Bedroom units. I pretty much gave up on Newspaper Advertising at the beginning of 2007, and only use the Internet now. I pay alot of money to Goggle Ad-Words, and maintain a Rental Website. However, the Up-scale Urbanite Downtown renter that we want uses the Internet almost exclusively.

HillsideRent.com

So I am sifting through some of my Emails for this week....

when_moving: before it gets too cold.

pets: 2 cats, mini poodle 5 yeas old, no accidents, no chewing...may not move with us
This one isn't bad, but it's already cold, and like they are really not going to move in the pets.
Budget: $500-$600

income: 1200.00 monthly

pets: i hane a yorkshire terrier and a domestic cat
Probably need to re-evaluate your Budget.
income: i Have a job

reason_for_moving: as of right now i live with my parents b/c the apartment i

wanted to live in turns out to be a slum.

pets: if i get a dog, it will be a small breed. maybe a maltese, or a yorkie.
income: Parent Funded

reason_for_moving: Get Away From Parents
income: SSI and Social Security

reason_for_moving: The landlord is selling the house

pets: yes, 2 cats and 4 dogs
reason_for_moving: LIVING WITH SOMEONE,IN 1 BR.APARTMENT.
Budget: $400-$500

source_of_income: 325.00

reason_for_moving: I hate where I live

when_moving: Next August
Hey Mike!

I saw the 2 bedroom townhouse I really love it, but my current lease is not up

until April.
We sold our house and have to be out by Dec. 14. We were buying a home and the pople changed their mind. They were friends or so we thought. Now we hopefully can find a place to rent. We would be willing to sign a lease for 6 months but would prefer short term. I know we would not be moving out in the next 2-3 months. We are empty nesters but I am involved in dog resucue. At the present time we have 7 Italian Greyhounds. They weigh up to 15 lbs. Some are fosters and are leaving for their forever homes in the near future. We are desperately looking for a home to buy but don't want to make another mistake and rush into something. We can give you very good references and are willing to give you a good down payment. We presently live at XXXXXX .and my husband works for XXXXXXX I am retired. I almost forgot we would like a fence but we could take them out on there leads if we had to. We have expens also. They are sighthounds like the big Greyhounds and can run!! Also they are crate trained and we have gates and can keep them out of rooms with carpet. We don't have to have your best house but I would like a decent safe neighborhood.

I can also give you my Vets name and ph.#

I really hope I hear from you. Thank you.
And of course there are a number of Emails that come with no Contact info of any kind since they are just posting to a Website, I don't capture the Email Addy. Doesn't do any good to send anything if you don't leave a Phone number of Email address.BUT.....

I got about 5 really pretty good leads of of this mess, and have gotten about 5 good leads a week for a long time now.

It brings us to 63 Units Rented, 6 Units open, 9 Units being rehabbed/turned for renting, and 2 project flip SFHs that are being rehabbed.

It would be a better ratio, but I bought 4 small multies this month consisting of 16 Units.

 
It brings us to 63 Units Rented, 6 Units open, 9 Units being rehabbed/turned for renting, and 2 project flip SFHs that are being rehabbed.It would be a better ratio, but I bought 4 small multies this month consisting of 16 Units.
Wow, congrats Mike. Sounds like you've got a really nice thing going. Question for you, how many people do you have working for you? Do you have any employees or do you sub your flips? We're just wrapping up our flip we bought in June(?) and it just seems there's got to be a better way to do this. Tried some hourly help ($10/hr) but noone made it more than a few weeks. I'd really like to get these turned quicker.
 
I'm visiting a house that is FSBO and it is an attractive price already (owner is passing on the savings it would seem). I'm weighing my options between hiring a lawyer or having the buyers agent group we've been using handle (1% fee) the process for us. I've seen some quotes of 1.5% from real estate lawyers to handle the transaction. Is that a normal rate?

This is in lower Bucks County - outside Philadelphia.

I'm a little unclear on the entire process when you do not use a buying agent as well. Would any offer come from the lawyer or is it something we could negotiate before we bring the lawyers in?

 
I'm visiting a house that is FSBO and it is an attractive price already (owner is passing on the savings it would seem). I'm weighing my options between hiring a lawyer or having the buyers agent group we've been using handle (1% fee) the process for us. I've seen some quotes of 1.5% from real estate lawyers to handle the transaction. Is that a normal rate? This is in lower Bucks County - outside Philadelphia.I'm a little unclear on the entire process when you do not use a buying agent as well. Would any offer come from the lawyer or is it something we could negotiate before we bring the lawyers in?
Get a lawyer. I think you should have a lawyer in any real estate transaction but if doing FSBO no reason for a buyer's agent. No idea if rate is reasonable or not.
 
Jeff and others:

I am putting my home for sale FSBO until February when I will list with an agent. I figured this is worth a shot since I can drop the price 3% to move the house (and not pay sellers commission). I am not planning on lowering it 6% because I want to be able to pay a buyer's agent if needed.*

Anyway, do any of you have experience selling your home FSBO? Any advice? My biggest concern is having the correct paperwork, and picking out a title company to clear title and transfer funds.....is FSBO a good idea, or shall i just stick with an agent?

Any advice on FSBO would be appreciated!

Thanks

Adam

LHL's The Inge Eaters

For those that want more detailed info (I know someone will ask):

We built this brand new home about a year ago about 45 minutes outside of St.Louis. My wife now works in the city, and I am down there a few days a week. 45-60 minute commute isnt the end of the world, but StLouis is having major highway traffic construction 2008-2010, where our major interstate (I-64) will be shut down in all lanes and directions. This will make our commute hours long......thus, we want to move in closer to the city.

Our house was listed from 9/1-11/1. We dropped the price signifigantly from the list and still only had a few showings (bad agent I think....I called her on Monday, still havent been called back and its friday?). Anyway, Jan 1 will be the 60 day mark and we can become a new listing on MLS with a new agent. Im thinking of waiting until Feb or even March, just so we are a newer listing in the prime selling season. Between now and then, I thought it would be worth a shot to do FSBO. I just want to be prepared in case I actually do get an interested buyer.....

 
Looking for thoughts. How much should I offer for this HUD owned home? Haven't had much luck with bank bids.

Assume $10K in cosmetics plus our labor time. I would like to turn around and sell after cosmetics. With the pool I don't think I would want as a first rental. Home would probably fetch only $950/ month rent.

This home is bigger than most in this blue-collar neighborhood. Most homes are 1100 Sq feet and less and go for $70-80K.

The Home

For Sale comp

For Sale comp 2.

Sale Date Liber / Page

Instrument # Qualification Type Sale Price Net Price

04/25/2007 200705010046713 F SD $84,825 $84,825

08/17/2005 200509070106934 R WD $156,500 $156,500

Thanks for the input.

 
Jeff and others:

There is a wealth of great info here for buying, selling, and investing. Unfortunately I spent a bunch of time weeding through the 52 pages of this thread and didn't see anything that pertained to me.

My wife and I moved down to Summerville, SC in the beginning of last year to be closer to the in-laws, hated it, and want to go right back to Jersey. We listed our house for sale in the beginning of July with the company associated with the Rock. Our "realtor" has had a few open houses, listed us on MLS and put a couple of ads in the paper, but that's really it. We priced the house fairly, but haven't had a visitor (or even talked to her) since early October. She hasn't called with updates, advice, info about what other local houses sold for, etc. The contract renewal is coming up.

1) Are any of you Charleston area realtors that actually want to sell my house rather than list it and wait for the commission? I read about the gentleman who is a realtor with web development experience and sells outside the box. In an area that has a boatload of military and transients, I would think the whole country is a potential buyer. I feel like our realtor now has done the bare minimum and hasn't delivered.

2) I will be finding a new agent shortly when the contract expires. I read on here that the best way to handle that is to leave it off the market for a couple of weeks and then relist. Is that the way to go about it?

3) I didn't know that you can negotiate commission with the realtor. As is, my realtor gets 3%, the buyer's agent gets 3%, and if my realtor brings it in it's 6% to her. What is a fair commission to negotiate in these market conditions?

4) The house started at $222,500, dropped to $221,000 after two weeks, and we finally dropped to $216,000 after a month. I'll settle for about $197,000 for it. What's the best way to price when I relist? Is closing cost incentives more effective than an actual price drop?

Thanks!

Jim

PM me if your answer is yes to #1.

 
Wow, the housing industry has crashed so much that this thread has been dead for almost three weeks? :o
and only I would be considering changing from the retail banking industry to the mortgage industry at this time. :goodposting: It makes a little more sense considering I am unemployed right now but still. :bag:
 
As the buyer should I expect to pay closing costs or does the seller handle that? What other fees should I expect at the time of close? About how much will they be if the home price is 200k-215K?

 
As the buyer should I expect to pay closing costs or does the seller handle that? What other fees should I expect at the time of close? About how much will they be if the home price is 200k-215K?
In this market I can almost guarantee you that the seller has priced the house having already budgeted to pay closing costs. Once only a practice with lower price homes... It's become increasingly popular around here with some nicer homes as well.
 
My wife and I moved down to Summerville, SC in the beginning of last year to be closer to the in-laws, hated it, and want to go right back to Jersey. We listed our house for sale in the beginning of July with the company associated with the Rock. Our "realtor" has had a few open houses, listed us on MLS and put a couple of ads in the paper, but that's really it. We priced the house fairly, but haven't had a visitor (or even talked to her) since early October. She hasn't called with updates, advice, info about what other local houses sold for, etc. The contract renewal is coming up.
Dump the realtor. :confused:See if you can get on "Sell This House" on A&E (Tanya Memme :banned: ). "Designed To Sell" on HGTV as well.
 
Jeff Pasquino,

My question is with the market the way it is. Are you buying or holding?

I sold off one investmant, after renting it for 3 years. Made out well.

 
My apologies if this has been covered but I can mot search for LLC since it is only three letters.

I am setting up a single-member LLC for a property that I am buying with a friend. The income/losses should simply 'pass through' to my personal taxes via Schedule C.

The question I have is: Can I freely move money in and out of the LLC from my personal bank account? I don't understand how I get money into my LLC account and then out if I need it. Help with this would be much appreciated.

 
On that same topic...

I just bought a condo and am fixing it up myself (almost done actually...it has gone surprisingly well)...

Anyway, I am about to rent it out, and thought hard about an LLC. Decided against it as my mortgage company could "call" the loan as it was a "primary residence loan" as I thought I would be living there (but decided against it)...

Anyway, Im increasing my umbrella to 2 million, requiring renters to have renters insurance (with public liability), and not setting up an LLC.

Is this how you pros do it? Or is an LLC the only way to go?

Thanks for the input!

 
Jeff and others:

There is a wealth of great info here for buying, selling, and investing. Unfortunately I spent a bunch of time weeding through the 52 pages of this thread and didn't see anything that pertained to me.

My wife and I moved down to Summerville, SC in the beginning of last year to be closer to the in-laws, hated it, and want to go right back to Jersey. We listed our house for sale in the beginning of July with the company associated with the Rock. Our "realtor" has had a few open houses, listed us on MLS and put a couple of ads in the paper, but that's really it. We priced the house fairly, but haven't had a visitor (or even talked to her) since early October. She hasn't called with updates, advice, info about what other local houses sold for, etc. The contract renewal is coming up.

1) Are any of you Charleston area realtors that actually want to sell my house rather than list it and wait for the commission? I read about the gentleman who is a realtor with web development experience and sells outside the box. In an area that has a boatload of military and transients, I would think the whole country is a potential buyer. I feel like our realtor now has done the bare minimum and hasn't delivered.

2) I will be finding a new agent shortly when the contract expires. I read on here that the best way to handle that is to leave it off the market for a couple of weeks and then relist. Is that the way to go about it?

3) I didn't know that you can negotiate commission with the realtor. As is, my realtor gets 3%, the buyer's agent gets 3%, and if my realtor brings it in it's 6% to her. What is a fair commission to negotiate in these market conditions?

4) The house started at $222,500, dropped to $221,000 after two weeks, and we finally dropped to $216,000 after a month. I'll settle for about $197,000 for it. What's the best way to price when I relist? Is closing cost incentives more effective than an actual price drop?

Thanks!

Jim

PM me if your answer is yes to #1.
I think you are looking at this in exactly the opposite way you should be looking at it.I hold a RE license, I don't practice.

RE Agents are people working on 100% commission where they pay out the nose for operating costs and only get paid when a home sells. They can do 100s of hours of work, and make nothing when the house doesn't sell. Many barely make it in a down market. Anyone can be successful in an up market.

If I were you....

I would get a new agent mostly so you can start fresh, and re-create yourself.

In #3 you talk about trying to work down the Commission. You want to do the exact opposite! You started at $222K and worked down to $221K, and know that you would go under $200K.

Realtors are 100% commission, You need to play on that. What I would do is offer a bonus to the Buyers agent. Basically you set the price at say $220K or whatever, with a contract that offers an extra $5K to the Buyers agent for a full price offer, or an extra $2K to the buyers agent for anything under full asking price.

If your agent brings the buyer, and you get full price, you pay an extra $5K on top of the 6% to your agent. If another agent brings the buyer and beats you down to $210K, you pay that agent the 3% and an extra $2K, while your agent gets the standard 3%. You want to generate traffic.

These might not be the exact numbers that work for you, so make it work with your numbers.

What is going to happen is that every agent everywhere is going to see that come out on the MLS, want the extra $5K, and push their clients to your house. All of this info is not listed for the general public. It goes into the Realtor's version of the MLS, only Agents will see it.

An Agent never works for you or the buyer, they work for themselves. You need to dangle a Carrot. The house will sell.

If a Buyers Agent has a client looking in the $220K range, and will make the standard 3% or $6,600 on some house that's not yours, or he can make $11,600 on yours, which one do you think he will sell all the while telling the buyer that full asking price is extremely fair for your great property?

It's a proven strategy, and every seller always works to lower the commission. The right play is the raise the selling price and reward the agent that gets the job done. As long as you get yours, who cares what anyone else gets.

That's what I would do in your shoes.

 
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As the buyer should I expect to pay closing costs or does the seller handle that? What other fees should I expect at the time of close? About how much will they be if the home price is 200k-215K?
In this market I can almost guarantee you that the seller has priced the house having already budgeted to pay closing costs. Once only a practice with lower price homes... It's become increasingly popular around here with some nicer homes as well.
You are going to pay for whatever you negotiate in the contract.I would think that you can get the buyer to pay everything given the national hysteria about the market..As an example, I just closed a House where the seller was to pay every single cost of any kind. I also got a Seller recently to pay up to 10% of the purchase price in closing costs.You should know that the new HUD/FHA standards (As of January 1st) on lenders wanting to sell you on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae is that the seller can pay no more than 2% of the purchase price in closing costs. So if you want buy using FHA/HUD or your lending institution is a re-seller, you can only get 2% paid.Work your deal accordingly.So if you are buying a $100K house, and the closing costs to the buyer are say $5K (Just pulling numbers out of the air) that's 5%. Since you can only get $2K or 2% covered, you either need to drop your purchase price, or have the seller throw in $2K for window coverings and say a new front loading Washer/Dryer set.Nothing is worse than leaving that $3K on the table at close because you didn't know.Talk to your Loan Originator.
 
Jeff Pasquino,

My question is with the market the way it is. Are you buying or holding?

I sold off one investmant, after renting it for 3 years. Made out well.
I would say it depends on your market where you are and when you got in. The play in a hot CA market might be to hold out until the price goes back up if you bought at the top of the market. In that same market, if you bought a rambler for $200K, the value went up to $1M and is now back down to $700K, it could be a perfect time to sell if you are married as the Capital Gains exemption is for $500K if you have lived in it for 2 out of 5 years. Rent for a few years as the market falls more, and then get back in with a much bigger home at a great price.If it is a Rental, and you can do an exchange into a buying group in a better market where you are just really an Investor and not a LL, I might do it. If it's cash flowing, who cares, ride it out.

I am a Buy and Hold in a Market that never went up, so even as it "falls" it isn't really changing at all. In fact the properties/area I buy are actually increasing in cost.

 
My apologies if this has been covered but I can mot search for LLC since it is only three letters.I am setting up a single-member LLC for a property that I am buying with a friend. The income/losses should simply 'pass through' to my personal taxes via Schedule C.The question I have is: Can I freely move money in and out of the LLC from my personal bank account? I don't understand how I get money into my LLC account and then out if I need it. Help with this would be much appreciated.
If you are buying together, how are you doing the Single Member LLC???? I don't follow that at all????The LLC can be added to at any time. You record the "loan" to the LLC. Then the LLC pays off the "loan". This this the way to go early on, as you will spend more than you make. It is extremely important to record the loan and payments back to you in the LLC Book (Forget what it's called, it's the book you get when you set it up)Down the road, the LLC will make disbursements to you. Talk to you accountant about a "Capital Account"
 
On that same topic...I just bought a condo and am fixing it up myself (almost done actually...it has gone surprisingly well)...Anyway, I am about to rent it out, and thought hard about an LLC. Decided against it as my mortgage company could "call" the loan as it was a "primary residence loan" as I thought I would be living there (but decided against it)...Anyway, Im increasing my umbrella to 2 million, requiring renters to have renters insurance (with public liability), and not setting up an LLC.Is this how you pros do it? Or is an LLC the only way to go?Thanks for the input!
My early properties are in an LLC. The reality is that the market over the past decade was so good, that no Lending institution would have ever called a Loan that was transfered. The Worm is turning, and Lenders are shoring up their liability.I have heard stories of Countrywide and BoA going so far as to cancel or reduce existing unused HELOCs.I still doubt it, but they could begin to call loans in LLCs. I doubt they could on Loans with the LLC for say 5 years as a president has been established and the Bank didn't challenge it at the time.My Later properties are all outside of the LLC with a $2M umbrella for Liability.I am happier not using the LLC, they can be a pain in the rear, and if you don't do everything exactly correct, the LLC provides zero protection anyway. I would hazard a guess that at least 80% of the LLCs out there provide zero protection as the Managing Member screwed up at some point.
 
Hi Mike,

Nice to see you back. Listed my second house a few weeks back. Looking for the next one. Still trying to figure out how to get these done faster, without losing all our profit to subcontractors.

 
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Hey guys... I am considering selling my property and was wondering if Rent to Own would be a good/bad idea right now as the seller. I have read a few things about it and it sounded like to me that I could possibly attract some buyers who wouldn't normally be able to buy (cannot afford down payment) but I could risk not being able to sell at the end leaving me with the mortgage payments.

I live in a single family house I own and also rent a townhouse that I own half of... and now all of a sudden we are considering moving to the city and buying a condo.

I have very little equity in the single family and purchased it almost 2 years ago, so I have not seen a great jump in appreciation on that one. So that might be a little tricky to sell, hence considering renting it out. It would be cool to rent (standard renting situation) but then I would probably have too much risk if renters (in either house) gave me problems or moved out (I could possibly have three mortgage payments due without renters).

So we are playing with renting this single family, selling it, trying rent to own.... looking for any real estate advice here. Should I avoid rent to own? Are there any tips on how to handle this situation?

I read some good stuff about offering incentives to the buyer's agent, however I have a slim window to work with when I look at my asking price and the break even point on the sale of the single family, so I am sorta stuck there as well.

I am probably best off just staying put, but we have our hearts set on this condo and we'd like to see if we can make it happen without being really stupid about it.

Thanks.

 
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Question for Mike and the other LL's,

In light of the low mortgage rates and down RE markets, I'm considering going the rental route with our last flip. Somebody talk to me about getting this house appraised and cashing out 70%-80% of the equity. Good move? Bad move?

 
Hey guys... I am considering selling my property and was wondering if Rent to Own would be a good/bad idea right now as the seller. I have read a few things about it and it sounded like to me that I could possibly attract some buyers who wouldn't normally be able to buy (cannot afford down payment) but I could risk not being able to sell at the end leaving me with the mortgage payments. I live in a single family house I own and also rent a townhouse that I own half of... and now all of a sudden we are considering moving to the city and buying a condo.I have very little equity in the single family and purchased it almost 2 years ago, so I have not seen a great jump in appreciation on that one. So that might be a little tricky to sell, hence considering renting it out. It would be cool to rent (standard renting situation) but then I would probably have too much risk if renters (in either house) gave me problems or moved out (I could possibly have three mortgage payments due without renters). So we are playing with renting this single family, selling it, trying rent to own.... looking for any real estate advice here. Should I avoid rent to own? Are there any tips on how to handle this situation? I read some good stuff about offering incentives to the buyer's agent, however I have a slim window to work with when I look at my asking price and the break even point on the sale of the single family, so I am sorta stuck there as well. I am probably best off just staying put, but we have our hearts set on this condo and we'd like to see if we can make it happen without being really stupid about it.Thanks.
I am too exhausted to post a bunch on this right now, but I thought it was important to state clearly that I think RTOs are the Devil's work. Bass has a similar opinion.Jeff loves them. This subject has been beaten up in this thread for pages upon pages. It shouldn't be hard to find all sorts of comments pro and con.
 
Question for Mike and the other LL's,In light of the low mortgage rates and down RE markets, I'm considering going the rental route with our last flip. Somebody talk to me about getting this house appraised and cashing out 70%-80% of the equity. Good move? Bad move?
Remind me to get back to this.However, I had a wild thought today as I was out driving today in the -20 degree wind. With the Rates going where they are going (The FED was the major if not basically the sole cause of the Great Depression last time around with their policy, they are doing the exact opposite policy wise this time around, you do learn from your past mistakes)Anyway, very soon, if not now, might be time to re-evaluate a ton of Rental properties for Refinance.
 
Random,

So I can put it together next time I am here, what can you rent it for? What do you currently have in it? What do you think the Appraised value is? (Lord know I wouldn't say Market value as Appraisals are always horribly way off)

 
Random, So I can put it together next time I am here, what can you rent it for? What do you currently have in it? What do you think the Appraised value is? (Lord know I wouldn't say Market value as Appraisals are always horribly way off)
Thinking it will rent for $650-$675. Currently have $46k in it, including purchase price, rehab, and holding costs. The CMA came back at $90K so that my best guess to appraised value.Here's my thinking. I can sell it and split 30K or so with my brother. House is gone and I'm taxed on the gain. Or we can open a HELOC on it and cash out $72K (80% of $90K at prime -.5%) Payoff all balances and cash invested and have $26K left to split. And not pay taxes on the gain. And keep the house with like a $365 payment (plus taxes $65/mo and insurance $27/mo). If it rents for $650 we'll have about $200 leftover per month. My brother likes the idea and is cool with managing the property.Here's the only thing I dont like about it. Went to the bank yesterday. Went in wanting to get 80% LTV on a fixed 20 year mortgage. Not happening. She said for an investment property 65% LTV is all they can do. And the rate was 7.14% (minus .25% for setting up an EFT). She did say next week the rate should be a little better. Anyway if I do the HELOC on the house I can get prime minus a half point. But I dont get the fixed mortgage at these low rates which was my main reason for doing this. Let me know your thoughts. Right now I really like the plan as it allows us to get our money out, keep the house with 18K equity and get right into another one.
 
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Anyone on here ever invest in a Self-storage property? I am seriously considering doing this and I've found some online resource but would just like to see if anybody as prime as a footballguy would see that as a worthy endeavor.

 
Question for Mike and the other LL's,In light of the low mortgage rates and down RE markets, I'm considering going the rental route with our last flip. Somebody talk to me about getting this house appraised and cashing out 70%-80% of the equity. Good move? Bad move?
Good move...cheap cash and capital are king.
 
Anyone on here ever invest in a Self-storage property? I am seriously considering doing this and I've found some online resource but would just like to see if anybody as prime as a footballguy would see that as a worthy endeavor.
You might want to start a new thread about this as it's a narrow topic. I don't know anything about the business but my first thought was that in a recession people are going to have to cut expenses. Seems like this would be at the top of the list for most people.
 
Anyone on here ever invest in a Self-storage property? I am seriously considering doing this and I've found some online resource but would just like to see if anybody as prime as a footballguy would see that as a worthy endeavor.
You might want to start a new thread about this as it's a narrow topic. I don't know anything about the business but my first thought was that in a recession people are going to have to cut expenses. Seems like this would be at the top of the list for most people.
Good point but wouldn't that also be the time to purchase them as profits are falling? Point taken though. I'll start a new thread on a day other than a Friday.
 
Anyone on here ever invest in a Self-storage property? I am seriously considering doing this and I've found some online resource but would just like to see if anybody as prime as a footballguy would see that as a worthy endeavor.
You might want to start a new thread about this as it's a narrow topic. I don't know anything about the business but my first thought was that in a recession people are going to have to cut expenses. Seems like this would be at the top of the list for most people.
Good point but wouldn't that also be the time to purchase them as profits are falling? Point taken though. I'll start a new thread on a day other than a Friday.
You are correct. I'm pretty sure I was pointing out the obivious to you, it's just the first thought that popped into my head.
 
Thanks to Mike Anderson for doing some heavy lifting here lately. :thumbup: I'm more into the commercial aspects of RE now (mobile home parks specifically as of late) but I'm always looking in the Mid-Atlantic (Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, WV and DE). Pretty much within 4-5 hours of a drive of Baltimore area.
Jeff-I'd be interested in hearing a little about buying a MH park. Do they go up for sale on the mls, newspaper, or do you specifically seek out the owner and offer to purchase?
Best way is to open the phone book and call them.I have a few sites I use on my own that I've cultivated over the years. Some are better than others. Craigslist at times too.Call managers of MHPs and see what's for sale.Get Commercial RE agents looking - but the best deals are pocket listings or no broker at all.
 
Thanks to Mike Anderson for doing some heavy lifting here lately. :thumbup: I'm more into the commercial aspects of RE now (mobile home parks specifically as of late) but I'm always looking in the Mid-Atlantic (Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, WV and DE). Pretty much within 4-5 hours of a drive of Baltimore area.
Jeff-I'd be interested in hearing a little about buying a MH park. Do they go up for sale on the mls, newspaper, or do you specifically seek out the owner and offer to purchase?
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The main issue with Loopnet is everyone is looking at those deals, and they are usually overpriced accordingly. (Basic supply/ demand - if you have lots of eyeballs on your property, you're hoping some sucker will pay too much for your property). The only deals on Loopnet are the ones you make lowball offers for (or gross miscalculations).
 
Jeff and others:I am putting my home for sale FSBO until February when I will list with an agent. I figured this is worth a shot since I can drop the price 3% to move the house (and not pay sellers commission). I am not planning on lowering it 6% because I want to be able to pay a buyer's agent if needed.*Anyway, do any of you have experience selling your home FSBO? Any advice? My biggest concern is having the correct paperwork, and picking out a title company to clear title and transfer funds.....is FSBO a good idea, or shall i just stick with an agent?Any advice on FSBO would be appreciated!ThanksAdamLHL's The Inge EatersFor those that want more detailed info (I know someone will ask):We built this brand new home about a year ago about 45 minutes outside of St.Louis. My wife now works in the city, and I am down there a few days a week. 45-60 minute commute isnt the end of the world, but StLouis is having major highway traffic construction 2008-2010, where our major interstate (I-64) will be shut down in all lanes and directions. This will make our commute hours long......thus, we want to move in closer to the city.Our house was listed from 9/1-11/1. We dropped the price signifigantly from the list and still only had a few showings (bad agent I think....I called her on Monday, still havent been called back and its friday?). Anyway, Jan 1 will be the 60 day mark and we can become a new listing on MLS with a new agent. Im thinking of waiting until Feb or even March, just so we are a newer listing in the prime selling season. Between now and then, I thought it would be worth a shot to do FSBO. I just want to be prepared in case I actually do get an interested buyer.....
Often FSBOs are assumed to be willing to come down in price, right or wrong.I know it is lazy, but I often list with a realtor. But I ride them - hard. Most realtors suck - like most of any working category. I don't trust 80% of most any industry. Realtors are no different.Most won't "work" on your behalf - you have to push them. If you find a good one, hold on to them. Get a local recommendation and make sure they REALLY helped, not just pushed paper / pulled listings. A lot of realtors have been around 5 or less years due to the recent hot markets. Now most are scrambling. Go with older and established realtors but ones that will actually listen. I often like younger ones who are training under older agents.
 

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