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If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
Foles is in an ideal situation He was gifted the best runner in the league all of a sudden., The guy has only thrown for over 200 yards once all season. And despite that. he's still right down with Bradford in QB rating. Take away the three interceptions that bounced off of his receivers' hands, and Bradford's is higher than his.

If your argument that Bradford doesn't look special and the Eagles should cut bait after the season, I can't really say I disagree at this point. But if your argument is that Foles is playing any better, you're out of your mind. He's the 27th QB in the league. As Philly already knew.

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
Foles is in an ideal situation He was gifted the best runner in the league all of a sudden., The guy has only thrown for over 200 yards once all season. And despite that. he's still right down with Bradford in QB rating. Take away the three interceptions that bounced off of his receivers' hands, and Bradford's is higher than his.

If your argument that Bradford doesn't look special and the Eagles should cut bait after the season, I can't really say I disagree at this point. But if your argument is that Foles is playing any better, you're out of your mind. He's the 27th QB in the league. As Philly already knew.
I think Foles gets paid a fair wage for his mediocrity and that Bradford has been grossly overpaid for the entirety of his career. The Rams should certainly try to upgrade, but they could certainly do worse than Foles both in terms of talent as well as money. They made a good move unloading Bradford and moving on from his drama.

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
Foles is in an ideal situation He was gifted the best runner in the league all of a sudden., The guy has only thrown for over 200 yards once all season. And despite that. he's still right down with Bradford in QB rating. Take away the three interceptions that bounced off of his receivers' hands, and Bradford's is higher than his.If your argument that Bradford doesn't look special and the Eagles should cut bait after the season, I can't really say I disagree at this point. But if your argument is that Foles is playing any better, you're out of your mind. He's the 27th QB in the league. As Philly already knew.
Ok. Your point is Foles is playing like Bradford. Foles was 10x cheaper for the "same" results. Still makes no sense. If Super Bowls and winning in the NFL was abut having the best RB the why has A. Peterson won many playoff games? Or Chris Johnson and Jamal Charlse? You think Britt and Cooks don't drop dimes? :lol: you haven't watch a Rams game at all.

It's a QB league. You don't have one and you lose. My argument isn't that Bradford isn't special anymore. He's terrible.

I manipulate statistics for a living. So what Foles hasn't thrown for high yards. Why hasn't he? It's called Volume. Efficiency is much more important. How many yards do you expect with 15 completions? I know it's Nicks Foles and all but geez

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
Foles is in an ideal situation He was gifted the best runner in the league all of a sudden., The guy has only thrown for over 200 yards once all season. And despite that. he's still right down with Bradford in QB rating. Take away the three interceptions that bounced off of his receivers' hands, and Bradford's is higher than his.

If your argument that Bradford doesn't look special and the Eagles should cut bait after the season, I can't really say I disagree at this point. But if your argument is that Foles is playing any better, you're out of your mind. He's the 27th QB in the league. As Philly already knew.
I think Foles gets paid a fair wage for his mediocrity and that Bradford has been grossly overpaid for the entirety of his career. The Rams should certainly try to upgrade, but they could certainly do worse than Foles both in terms of talent as well as money. They made a good move unloading Bradford and moving on from his drama.
With their defense and Gurley at halfback, Foles will be fine there. As long as they only need him to make an occasional throw to keep the defenses honest. When they get behind, like they did against Green Bay, and he is asked to throw a lot, it's a disaster. But against 8 man boxes, he should be ok. Just about anyone could be.

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
Foles is in an ideal situation He was gifted the best runner in the league all of a sudden., The guy has only thrown for over 200 yards once all season. And despite that. he's still right down with Bradford in QB rating. Take away the three interceptions that bounced off of his receivers' hands, and Bradford's is higher than his.If your argument that Bradford doesn't look special and the Eagles should cut bait after the season, I can't really say I disagree at this point. But if your argument is that Foles is playing any better, you're out of your mind. He's the 27th QB in the league. As Philly already knew.
Ok. Your point is Foles is playing like Bradford. Foles was 10x cheaper for the "same" results. Still makes no sense.If Super Bowls and winning in the NFL was abut having the best RB the why has A. Peterson won many playoff games? Or Chris Johnson and Jamal Charlse? You think Britt and Cooks don't drop dimes? :lol: you haven't watch a Rams game at all.

It's a QB league. You don't have one and you lose. My argument isn't that Bradford isn't special anymore. He's terrible.

I manipulate statistics for a living. So what Foles hasn't thrown for high yards. Why hasn't he? It's called Volume. Efficiency is much more important. How many yards do you expect with 15 completions? I know it's Nicks Foles and all but geez
One game all year over 200 yards. Gurley runs for more yards than Foles throws for. When Foles is pressed into action as a passer (like against Green Bay) he fails miserably (4 interceptions). Foles is what he is. Just as the Eagles already knew. But he can sure hand off.

And his QB rating is in the 70s. Stop talking about how efficient he is. Bradford is #30 and Foles is #27. Bottom dwellers.

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
What Flacco did in the playoffs the year they won the SB was not average. His TD to Int ration was absolutely nuts. He may be meh in the regular season, or a little above average, but he's absolutely elite in the playoffs. And Dalton, with a full array of weapons is not average. He was top 5 two years ago when everyone was healthy and he's top 5 right now through 8 weeks.

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
What Flacco did in the playoffs the year they won the SB was not average. His TD to Int ration was absolutely nuts. He may be meh in the regular season, or a little above average, but he's absolutely elite in the playoffs. And Dalton, with a full array of weapons is not average. He was top 5 two years ago when everyone was healthy and he's top 5 right now through 8 weeks.
Recall 2013?19-7 with a 96.2 QB rate over the past 3 years isn't average either.

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
Foles is in an ideal situation He was gifted the best runner in the league all of a sudden., The guy has only thrown for over 200 yards once all season. And despite that. he's still right down with Bradford in QB rating. Take away the three interceptions that bounced off of his receivers' hands, and Bradford's is higher than his.If your argument that Bradford doesn't look special and the Eagles should cut bait after the season, I can't really say I disagree at this point. But if your argument is that Foles is playing any better, you're out of your mind. He's the 27th QB in the league. As Philly already knew.
Ok. Your point is Foles is playing like Bradford. Foles was 10x cheaper for the "same" results. Still makes no sense.If Super Bowls and winning in the NFL was abut having the best RB the why has A. Peterson won many playoff games? Or Chris Johnson and Jamal Charlse? You think Britt and Cooks don't drop dimes? :lol: you haven't watch a Rams game at all.

It's a QB league. You don't have one and you lose. My argument isn't that Bradford isn't special anymore. He's terrible.

I manipulate statistics for a living. So what Foles hasn't thrown for high yards. Why hasn't he? It's called Volume. Efficiency is much more important. How many yards do you expect with 15 completions? I know it's Nicks Foles and all but geez
One game all year over 200 yards. Gurley runs for more yards than Foles throws for. When Foles is pressed into action as a passer (like against Green Bay) he fails miserably (4 interceptions). Foles is what he is. Just as the Eagles already knew. But he can sure hand off.

And his QB rating is in the 70s. Stop talking about how efficient he is. Bradford is #30 and Foles is #27. Bottom dwellers.
Quick stats class on Khan academy would help you if you're even attempting to understand me. I understand you completely.

7 game sample requires some context to draw conclusions. Foles had one game that looks more like an outlier compared to this year and his career he's been one of the least sacked and least turnover prone QBs since he's been in this league. Outside of that he's been everything you'd never admit.

Not like any of this matters. Rams are fine with their "game manager". Eagles are on the brink of caos with w/e you think of Bradford.

 
If apologizing gets a pass, then Foles had one bad game vs a great GB defense. Easily his worse game since the concussion vs Dallas. We all know how he bounced back from there.

Outside of that he's completing like 63%, 5td to 1int and 7.2 y/a

Game winning drive and wins vs Sea/Ari. The "He's playing like Bradford" statements is not so.
His biggest attribute this season is his ability to give the ball to Gurley. Foles has been exactly what he was for us last year..average.
Just like when Gurley was hurt right??
Foles still wasn't special. One game over 200 yards all year. Foles is Foles. Very very average.
That's more that what I can say for Badford.Outside of the GB game, Foles QB rating is like 90+(you know... somewhere near his career average :shock: ). He's likely going to be 3-0 is the toughest division in the league right now after this weekend. I don't see the beef.

15-4 under Kelly with a 100 QB rating. I'll wait for anyone to near those numbers in Chip magical system.
It is turning out to not be a tough division. And you are saying he has anything to do with that? St. Louis has scored the 2nd least points in the entire NFL. And he had an oline that could block, and receivers that could catch last year. Stop comparing saying to not compare apples to oranges, and then comparing apples to oranges.

Foles is not a super bowl qb no matter how you slice it. Your blind love is admirable though.
Neither was Trent Dilfer. But the Rams are following the Ravens model from that year, stout D and a strong running game. All Foles has to do is not lose games and let the D and the RB win them. Easier said that done, I know, but it's possible...
They say Foles is average. Average to me is Flacco/Eli/Dalton type that can get hot. Yes, you can win a Super Bowl with an average QB according to history. Outside of the GB debacle, he's been his usual efficient self. He a young QB that has a probowl under his belt and is 19-7 over the past 3 years. Makes no sense to me to say he can get you to the playoffs and go on a run. Especially when Bradford is your alternative who is just known for tearing his knees up the past few years.
Foles is in an ideal situation He was gifted the best runner in the league all of a sudden., The guy has only thrown for over 200 yards once all season. And despite that. he's still right down with Bradford in QB rating. Take away the three interceptions that bounced off of his receivers' hands, and Bradford's is higher than his.If your argument that Bradford doesn't look special and the Eagles should cut bait after the season, I can't really say I disagree at this point. But if your argument is that Foles is playing any better, you're out of your mind. He's the 27th QB in the league. As Philly already knew.
Ok. Your point is Foles is playing like Bradford. Foles was 10x cheaper for the "same" results. Still makes no sense.If Super Bowls and winning in the NFL was abut having the best RB the why has A. Peterson won many playoff games? Or Chris Johnson and Jamal Charlse? You think Britt and Cooks don't drop dimes? :lol: you haven't watch a Rams game at all.

It's a QB league. You don't have one and you lose. My argument isn't that Bradford isn't special anymore. He's terrible.

I manipulate statistics for a living. So what Foles hasn't thrown for high yards. Why hasn't he? It's called Volume. Efficiency is much more important. How many yards do you expect with 15 completions? I know it's Nicks Foles and all but geez
One game all year over 200 yards. Gurley runs for more yards than Foles throws for. When Foles is pressed into action as a passer (like against Green Bay) he fails miserably (4 interceptions). Foles is what he is. Just as the Eagles already knew. But he can sure hand off.

And his QB rating is in the 70s. Stop talking about how efficient he is. Bradford is #30 and Foles is #27. Bottom dwellers.
Quick stats class on Khan academy would help you if you're even attempting to understand me. I understand you completely.

7 game sample requires some context to draw conclusions. Foles had one game that looks more like an outlier compared to this year and his career he's been one of the least sacked and least turnover prone QBs since he's been in this league. Outside of that he's been everything you'd never admit.

Not like any of this matters. Rams are fine with their "game manager". Eagles are on the brink of caos with w/e you think of Bradford.
Rams were hoping for 2013 Foles. They got 2014 Foles. They'll be in the same boat as Philly in the off-season. Looking to improve at quarterback. He's 27th ranked QB in the league.

 
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Rams were hoping for 2013 Foles. They got 2014 Foles. They'll be in the same boat as Philly in the off-season. Looking to improve at quarterback. He's 27th ranked QB in the league.
If the Rams can make a playoff push and do well despite Foles, you may not see them spend a lot at the QB position in the offseason. Mid round pick maybe. BUT, if the Rams make the playoffs and have to play catchup and he does another 4 pick day, he's going to be mentoring someone else for his job....

 
Rams were hoping for 2013 Foles. They got 2014 Foles. They'll be in the same boat as Philly in the off-season. Looking to improve at quarterback. He's 27th ranked QB in the league.
If the Rams can make a playoff push and do well despite Foles, you may not see them spend a lot at the QB position in the offseason. Mid round pick maybe. BUT, if the Rams make the playoffs and have to play catchup and he does another 4 pick day, he's going to be mentoring someone else for his job....
4 picks had more to do with GB defense putting him on his ### 12x than Foles being incapable of throwing a forward pass
 
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Foles is playing fine. He sucks at fantasy but as an NFL qb he's doing what he's being asked to do more or less.

 
Rams were hoping for 2013 Foles. They got 2014 Foles. They'll be in the same boat as Philly in the off-season. Looking to improve at quarterback. He's 27th ranked QB in the league.
If the Rams can make a playoff push and do well despite Foles, you may not see them spend a lot at the QB position in the offseason. Mid round pick maybe. BUT, if the Rams make the playoffs and have to play catchup and he does another 4 pick day, he's going to be mentoring someone else for his job....
4 picks had more to do with GB defense putting him on his ### 12x than Foles being incapable of throwing a forward pass
I see it as Foles throwing 4 picks because the Rams were down and he had to make plays to get them back into it. He was asked to throw too much and he threw too many to the other guys...

 
Rams were hoping for 2013 Foles. They got 2014 Foles. They'll be in the same boat as Philly in the off-season. Looking to improve at quarterback. He's 27th ranked QB in the league.
If the Rams can make a playoff push and do well despite Foles, you may not see them spend a lot at the QB position in the offseason. Mid round pick maybe. BUT, if the Rams make the playoffs and have to play catchup and he does another 4 pick day, he's going to be mentoring someone else for his job....
4 picks had more to do with GB defense putting him on his ### 12x than Foles being incapable of throwing a forward pass
I see it as Foles throwing 4 picks because the Rams were down and he had to make plays to get them back into it. He was asked to throw too much and he threw too many to the other guys...
Of course

 
Rams were hoping for 2013 Foles. They got 2014 Foles. They'll be in the same boat as Philly in the off-season. Looking to improve at quarterback. He's 27th ranked QB in the league.
If the Rams can make a playoff push and do well despite Foles, you may not see them spend a lot at the QB position in the offseason. Mid round pick maybe. BUT, if the Rams make the playoffs and have to play catchup and he does another 4 pick day, he's going to be mentoring someone else for his job....
4 picks had more to do with GB defense putting him on his ### 12x than Foles being incapable of throwing a forward pass
I see it as Foles throwing 4 picks because the Rams were down and he had to make plays to get them back into it. He was asked to throw too much and he threw too many to the other guys...
In 35 appearances he had 4 multi int game. The GB was the first with more than 3 picks. That's called an outlier. Watch the game. He spent the day either on his ###, throwing the ball away , throwing a pick or the ball was dropped. It happens. You going to say the same about Aaron Rodger after the Denver game? That's a sample with over a 1000 throws to draw logical conclusions from. He doesn't turn the ball over as much as some want to believe.

 
Yeah I think we have enough sample size by now. Whether it's the receivers, offensive line, play calling or Bradford, he is pretty much fantasy irrelevant.

 
fred_1_15301 said:
Yeah I think we have enough sample size by now. Whether it's the receivers, offensive line, play calling or Bradford, he is pretty much fantasy irrelevant.
overstated.

With an easier schedule down the stretch - he is a usable QB2. Not really important, but not irrelevant, either.

 
fred_1_15301 said:
Yeah I think we have enough sample size by now. Whether it's the receivers, offensive line, play calling or Bradford, he is pretty much fantasy irrelevant.
overstated.

With an easier schedule down the stretch - he is a usable QB2. Not really important, but not irrelevant, either.
Well very few QBs are completely irrelevant so you're probably right. However, I would not feel at all comfortable with Bradford as my 1. Unfortunately many people drafted him as their 1 given the preseason hype.

 
Homer here and dropped him for Cutler and going to stream Winston and Cutler

 
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fred_1_15301 said:
Yeah I think we have enough sample size by now. Whether it's the receivers, offensive line, play calling or Bradford, he is pretty much fantasy irrelevant.
overstated.

With an easier schedule down the stretch - he is a usable QB2. Not really important, but not irrelevant, either.
Well very few QBs are completely irrelevant so you're probably right. However, I would not feel at all comfortable with Bradford as my 1. Unfortunately many people drafted him as their 1 given the preseason hype.
I think anyone who drafted him as their #1, has replaced him by now as their starting QB. Not sure any fantasy team out there still had Sam as their #1 QB going into this week. If he was your backup, he's still worth that backup spot. If you dropped him, it's not really a big deal as you're right, he's not going to be a strong QB1 ROS

 
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Condition to Foles/Bradford deal ... If Bradford doesn't start 8 games, Eagles get a 4th round pick back. If he's reinjured, they get a 3..
So maybe the Eagles have a chance at recouping some value from the Foles/Bradford trade? Guess it really depends what "reinjured" is classified as
Bob Magaw might know. I thought this stuff was based on his knee.

Just to beat this to the punch, he injured the other shoulder in college.

I didn't understand it to be if he's injured in anyway imaginable but instead we know he's going thru knee rehab so let's offer some assurances about the knee

 
Rotoworld:

Sam Bradford did "pretty much everything" in Tuesday's practice.

RT Lane Johnson said he expects Bradford to start against the Patriots. Barring a setback, Bradford appears ready to send Mark Sanchez back to the bench after two games under center.

Source: Jeff McLane on Twitter

Dec 1 - 2:08 PM
 
Bradford made the big plays when they counted most
Mike Sielski, Inquirer ColumnistPosted: Tuesday, December 8, 2015, 3:01 AM
The standards for judging the quality of a quarterback's play are forever shifting and changing, forever ricocheting from statistics to Super Bowls to win-loss records to the intangible sense of whether you'd want him to have the ball when a game is on the line. So it shouldn't be surprising that Sam Bradford's brief tenure with the Eagles has been so difficult to evaluate.

He has not put up the pinball-like numbers that one might have expected, before the season began, from a quarterback in Chip Kelly's system. He has not stayed healthy, missing two games with a concussion and a shoulder injury. He had been, through his first seven games, something he had not been throughout his career before joining the Eagles: turnover-prone.

Yet for all the rightful complaints about Bradford then and the caution over the small sample size of his play since, here is what he's done over his last three games, all since the Eagles' bye week: 58 completions in 85 attempts for a 68.2 completion percentage, 651 yards, four touchdowns, zero interceptions. And here is what Bradford did Sunday in the Eagles' 35-28 victory over the Patriots, in a game in which the statistics (14-for-24, 120 yards) suggested that he was ordinary at best: four vital third-down completions, two for touchdowns and two for first downs. Without even one of those throws, the Eagles lose Sunday, and isn't that the best way to judge a quarterback, whether he makes the right play in a big moment?

"That's kind of hard to say," Bradford said. "The great quarterbacks are the ones who do it on a consistent basis, regardless of whether it's a big play. They're all big plays. But to be able to execute in some of those critical situations, it's good to see."



Amid the craziness of Sunday's game, the first of those completions was the one that's most easily forgotten: a 20-yarder to Jordan Matthews on third-and-10 in the second quarter. It extended the drive that culminated in the Eagles' first touchdown and Bradford's second key third-down throw: his five-yard touchdown to Zach Ertz.

The third and fourth came in the fourth quarter, and they were Bradford's finest moments of the night: rolling right on third-and-2 and threading a perfect throw to Matthews for a 10-yard touchdown, hanging in the pocket on third-and-11 during the Eagles' next-to-last possession, when they needed a first down to keep Brady and the Patriots off the field, and finding Riley Cooper for 14 yards.

"He came up clutch for us - really won us the game there," tackle Lane Johnson said.

If Johnson's praise of Bradford seems excessive, take care to understand its context. When Bradford left that Nov. 15 game against the Dolphins because of that hellacious hit from linebacker Chris McCain, the Eagles led by three points. They eventually lost, 20-19, their last chance for salvaging a victory stolen from them by Mark Sanchez's indefensible decision to try to hit Miles Austin on a crossing route in the end zone. The pass was intercepted, and with Sanchez as their starter, the Eagles lost their next two games by a combined 59 points.

Though there's no way to prove that Sanchez's interception brought on a collective psychological sag among his teammates, a here-we-go-again-with-this-guy kind of feeling, the theory isn't implausible. In fact, it was Kelly himself who, through his late-game play-calling Sunday, lent it credence. Look at that Eagles possession with three minutes left in the fourth quarter, with the Patriots down seven, with everyone in Philadelphia uneasy until Bradford hits Cooper.

On first down, Kelly calls for Bradford to roll to his right and gives him a choice: throw the ball if someone is clearly open; otherwise, keep it. Bradford runs for no gain, forcing New England to use its second timeout. On second down, a handoff to Darren Sproles lost a yard, and the Patriots used their final timeout. Third-and-11, Brady standing on the opposite sideline, a big lead having shrunk to a one-score game - ask yourself if Kelly would have had Sanchez throw the ball in that situation.

No way, no how.

But he demanded Bradford's best in that moment, and he got it.

"When you have a smart quarterback," Kelly said, "you trust him that he can do that."

There will be questions galore in the weeks to come about Bradford's future with the Eagles. Will they try to re-sign him? Does he want to return? (He did not come to them of his own free will, after all. He was traded here.) What would a contract extension cost? What is he worth?

Those answers will come in time, only after everyone sees what Sam Bradford does over these next four weeks, whether he continues to be the quarterback he was Sunday.

"I felt like I made the plays when they had to be made," he said.

For the Eagles' long-term future, that sounds like something they could live with, and might have to. For one game that no one expected them to win, it was everything.

msielski@phillynews.com

@MikeSielski

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20151208_Bradford_made_the_big_plays_when_they_counted_most.html#fPYgQcLVsE6eJv1u.99

 
Great article. You can see he's a different player than he was at the beginning of the year. His low yardage totals against New England are misleading too. We scored two special team and a defensive touchdown. That's three less possessions for Bradford and the offense. He faces a couple of tough defenses in Buffalo and Arizona. I just want to see the improvement continue. Huge decision coming up on him for Chip and the Eagles this offseason.

 
I think he deserves to be paid a decent qb salary. I think I need another year to hook him up on a long term deal though

 
Great article. You can see he's a different player than he was at the beginning of the year. His low yardage totals against New England are misleading too. We scored two special team and a defensive touchdown. That's three less possessions for Bradford and the offense. He faces a couple of tough defenses in Buffalo and Arizona. I just want to see the improvement continue. Huge decision coming up on him for Chip and the Eagles this offseason.
Buffalo seems to be about OL blocking. If you can get the QB enough time, they can be passed upon relatively easily-halfway similar to Houston.

I think we're also seeing Bradford calm down and start to show some benefits of continuity and familiarity.

A 10-6 team wants a playoff winning QB. Not sure ya have that. A team with a losing record wants a QB with a bright future that has shown he can get it done in spots and he's absolutely shown that.

QBs help in attracting new coaches. Having the same QB could be significant to Chip-no idea how he feels.

Absolute gem of a human being, almost guarantee he's going to do some kind charitable things this offseason and that's always good for a franchise.

Bradford is blessed with the ability to throw balls with a soft touch and place them. That is starting to show as he gets used to these WRs.

 
Although Bradford threw 10 interceptions in his first seven games this season, he has five touchdown passes and just one pick in his last four contests. Over his last four starts, he has completed 80 of 123 passes (65.0%) for 898 yards and a 96.9 rating.

The Eagles are also 5-1 in the last six games Bradford has started and finished.

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/12/14/philadelphia-eagles-sam-bradford/#Y5oPUarFeOCKqzcs.99

He's definitely getting more comfortable. I would speculate that if he's the guy in Philadelphia is 2016, having another year removed from the injuries and comfort in the system, he continues to take steps in the right direction.

Echo the thoughts above that he's an A+ person and a very resilient guy.
 
Although Bradford threw 10 interceptions in his first seven games this season, he has five touchdown passes and just one pick in his last four contests. Over his last four starts, he has completed 80 of 123 passes (65.0%) for 898 yards and a 96.9 rating.

The Eagles are also 5-1 in the last six games Bradford has started and finished.

http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/12/14/philadelphia-eagles-sam-bradford/#Y5oPUarFeOCKqzcs.99

He's definitely getting more comfortable. I would speculate that if he's the guy in Philadelphia is 2016, having another year removed from the injuries and comfort in the system, he continues to take steps in the right direction.

Echo the thoughts above that he's an A+ person and a very resilient guy.
And that one interception was off of Celek's hands. He did take a boneheaded sack yesterday. He has to throw that ball away, but other than that, he played a very good game. The thing that jumps out at me compared to the early season games is his comfort level. He's not all wide-eyed and scared looking. He's playing with a calm enthusiasm. The way he hangs in the pocket with pressure surrounding him is impressive after having two ACL injuries. Before the bye, I wasn't seeing that. He seemed fidgety.

 
He's also running more and cutting down the turnovers. I hope they keep him but want them to draft or bring in someone to back him up. He will miss time at some point and I never want to see sanchez again

 
Trading Foles to gamble that Bradford isn't the guy he looked like in STL would be one thing. Throwing in a 2nd, a 4th, and giving up the cap room to resign Maclin is another. Results matter, Bradford is in the same tier as Sanchez and Foles as a QB, and the trade was brutal.
5-1 in last 6.

 
Trading Foles to gamble that Bradford isn't the guy he looked like in STL would be one thing. Throwing in a 2nd, a 4th, and giving up the cap room to resign Maclin is another. Results matter, Bradford is in the same tier as Sanchez and Foles as a QB, and the trade was brutal.
5-1 in last 6.
Doing just welll enough to potentially sucker the Eagles into a contact extension.
Have you been watching the games? He's playing well vs good defenses. When u consider the wrs he's playing with, it's pretty impressive

 
Trading Foles to gamble that Bradford isn't the guy he looked like in STL would be one thing. Throwing in a 2nd, a 4th, and giving up the cap room to resign Maclin is another. Results matter, Bradford is in the same tier as Sanchez and Foles as a QB, and the trade was brutal.
5-1 in last 6.
Doing just welll enough to potentially sucker the Eagles into a contact extension.
Have you been watching the games? He's playing well vs good defenses. When u consider the wrs he's playing with, it's pretty impressive
If he closes out the season like he's been playing then I prefer him over anything else that will be available in '16. Maybe it just did take him a few games to knock the rust off after a year and a half out of the game (and learning a new system with new teammates).

I don't know if Bradford will ever live up to his draft pick or become successful for the Eagles but fans and media are way too quick to label players a 'bust' if they don't have immediate success.

 

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