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'Moe. said:
FSC's coverage of Serie A is so terrible I've found it hard to watch. The commentator they use is just awful. Maybe things will change with the new network. .
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I am not entirely sure but I think Phil Scheon and Ray Hudson will be the main English voices on beIn Sports so they may call the Serie A games. Will have to wait and see to be sure.
 
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From Soccer America

Fox Soccer signed a new four-year agreement with Concacaf to broadcast the Gold Cup and Concacaf Champions League. The agreement starts with the current Concacaf Champions League season and continues through the 2015-2016 edition of the tournament. The deal also covers the 2013 and 2015 Gold Cups.

 
There are some reports going around that Edu and Cameron may start at center back against Mexico tonight.

At least Klinsman picked an easy game and location to experiment with :)

 
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Down goes ESPN Soccernet

Hello ESPNFC

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ESPN launches new football brand, ESPNFC, on multiple platforms

August 15th, 2012Tristan O'Carroll

ESPN, Inc. today announces the full launch of its multi-platform, multi-language and multi-country global football brand, ESPNFC. Initially launched as a preview in April for Euro 2012, ESPNFC today officially debuts ahead of the start of the Barclays Premier League, covering all major leagues and competitions worldwide for the first time, and, expanding to TV and mobile in the UK.

Arne Rees, vice president of international digital media for ESPN International: “ESPN is making a big statement with today’s launch of ESPNFC.  We are committed to the global game with a global, cross-media brand to cover it 24/7.  ESPNFC aims to serve fans by being the leading destination for definitive football coverage worldwide and year-round whenever and wherever fans want it.”

Across Platforms

From today, ESPNFC makes its full debut online and on mobile and appears on TV in the UK for the first time. ESPNFC succeeds ESPNsoccernet as the sports media company’s global football brand, bringing together all of ESPN’s global football coverage and housing them under a single multimedia brand. 

On mobile, a new ESPNFC app launches giving fans access to its content wherever they are, available on Apple, Windows Phone and Android handsets. Key features of the new ESPNFC application include personalisation, allowing football fans to personalise the app by their favourite leagues, teams and tournaments, and, exclusive video and audio from ESPN’s various studio-based discussion and analysis shows.

On TV, its global multi-platform football debate and discussion show ESPNsoccernet PressPass becomes ESPNFC PressPass. The football discussion show that looks, daily, at the global game with a global perspective, the show features panellists and contributors from around the world of football – including Shaka Hislop, Robbie Mustoe, Steve Nicol, Frank LeBoeuf and Jorge Ramos. Reflecting the cross-platform nature of ESPNFC, both TV and digital content will be heavily integrated to highlight major club news and analysis across all screens. Furthermore, the editorial agenda of both the TV show and web companion content will be closely aligned. Also tonight, the show makes its debut on ESPN television in the US. Previously available online in the US, the show will be available six days a week (weekdays plus Sundays) on ESPNews. Press Pass first debuted in September 2002 on ESPN International’s English-speaking networks.  It can now be seen in over 107 countries and territories around the world.

ESPNFC will also provide new and unique, customizable digital opportunities for marketers who can work with ESPN to reach football fans on both a global and regional scale using ESPN’s worldwide sales teams. Online and on mobile, ESPNFC will have the ability to detect where a fan is accessing content, and deliver locally relevant coverage for that region. At launch, ESPNFC will launch in English and Spanish and will evolve over time to serve multiple languages.

New Contributors

ESPNFC will organize a developing worldwide network of writers, bloggers and analysts covering the latest news and developments 24/7, regardless of where they happen in the world. Each Barclays Premier League club and each of mainland Europe’s leading club sides, plus clubs elsewhere, will in time have a specific blogger on ESPNFC, connecting ESPNFC readers with the latest views and insights from their club.  ESPNFC is also developing a network of correspondents who will cover the latest news and stories from key football regions, initially including Spain, Italy and the regional hot-beds of football such as Manchester and London. Furthermore, fans can access a line-up of new big-name writers across multiple-platforms. They include:

• Glenn Hoddle – former England national team manager, Hoddle will be contributor online and on mobile

• Kevin Keegan – will contribute a column online and on mobile. The former Newcastle United, Fulham, Manchester City and England manager won a host of honours playing for the likes of Liverpool and Hamburg

• Steve Nicol – Existing contributor on TV for PressPass, the former Liverpool player, Scotland international and New England Revolution manager, will additionally contribute regularly to ESPNFC online and on mobile

• Gabriele Marcotti – Renowned international football journalist and expert on Italian, Spanish and English football, based in London, will write several times a week for ESPNFC and appear regularly on Press Pass.

• Roger Bennett – a columnist for ESPNFC and host of Grantland, ESPN’s wide-ranging sports-scene site, Bennett will be covering the international game, with a focus on the Barclays Premier League.

Comprehensive multimedia coverage from ESPNFC includes on-demand video highlights, studio programming clips, news, analysis and commentary, digital audio and podcasts, real-time scores, stats and more.  With particular emphasis on the live game experience, a Live MatchHQ service features data-driven content, including real-time scores and stats, highlights, message boards and more, all in a single unified interface. Outside of the UK, ESPNFC will also be integrated into ESPNdeportes.com, which serves the Spanish-speaking community in the US, and across football content on many of ESPN’s global TV, radio and print platforms. 

EURO 2012

During EURO 2012, ESPNFC generated significant traffic online and on mobile platforms.  ESPNFC.com and ESPNsoccernet.com logged an average of 919,000 unique visitors and 12.7 million minutes per day during the tournament, up 35 percent and 205 percent respectively compared to EURO 2008.  Additionally, ESPNFC, ESPNsoccernet and ESPNdeportes mobile Web sites as well as the ESPNsoccernet app for iPhone and Android generated 33.6 million total page views, up 494 percent.

 
Fabrice Muamba retired this morning.

Since suffering my heart attack and being discharged from hospital, I have remained utterly positive in the belief I could one day resume my playing career and play for Bolton Wanderers once again. As part of my on-going recovery, last week I travelled to Belgium to seek further medical advice from a leading cardiologist. But the news I received was obviously not what I had hoped it would be and it means I am now announcing my retirement from professional football. Football has been my life since I was a teenage boy and it has given me so many opportunities. Above all else, I love the game and count myself very lucky to have been able to play at the highest level. While the news is devastating, I have much to be thankful for. I thank God that I am alive and I pay tribute once again to the members of the medical team who never gave up on me. I would also like to thank everyone who has supported me throughout my career, and the Bolton fans who have been incredible. I am blessed to have the support of my family and friends at this time.
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'Steve Tasker said:
Fabrice Muamba retired this morning.

Since suffering my heart attack and being discharged from hospital, I have remained utterly positive in the belief I could one day resume my playing career and play for Bolton Wanderers once again. As part of my on-going recovery, last week I travelled to Belgium to seek further medical advice from a leading cardiologist. But the news I received was obviously not what I had hoped it would be and it means I am now announcing my retirement from professional football. Football has been my life since I was a teenage boy and it has given me so many opportunities. Above all else, I love the game and count myself very lucky to have been able to play at the highest level. While the news is devastating, I have much to be thankful for. I thank God that I am alive and I pay tribute once again to the members of the medical team who never gave up on me. I would also like to thank everyone who has supported me throughout my career, and the Bolton fans who have been incredible. I am blessed to have the support of my family and friends at this time.
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Lucky to be alive and all, but still :(
 
'NewlyRetired said:
Down goes ESPN SoccernetHello ESPNFC========================ESPN launches new football brand, ESPNFC, on multiple platformsAugust 15th, 2012Tristan O'CarrollESPN, Inc. today announces the full launch of its multi-platform, multi-language and multi-country global football brand, ESPNFC. Initially launched as a preview in April for Euro 2012, ESPNFC today officially debuts ahead of the start of the Barclays Premier League, covering all major leagues and competitions worldwide for the first time, and, expanding to TV and mobile in the UK.Arne Rees, vice president of international digital media for ESPN International: “ESPN is making a big statement with today’s launch of ESPNFC.  We are committed to the global game with a global, cross-media brand to cover it 24/7.  ESPNFC aims to serve fans by being the leading destination for definitive football coverage worldwide and year-round whenever and wherever fans want it.”Across PlatformsFrom today, ESPNFC makes its full debut online and on mobile and appears on TV in the UK for the first time. ESPNFC succeeds ESPNsoccernet as the sports media company’s global football brand, bringing together all of ESPN’s global football coverage and housing them under a single multimedia brand. On mobile, a new ESPNFC app launches giving fans access to its content wherever they are, available on Apple, Windows Phone and Android handsets. Key features of the new ESPNFC application include personalisation, allowing football fans to personalise the app by their favourite leagues, teams and tournaments, and, exclusive video and audio from ESPN’s various studio-based discussion and analysis shows.On TV, its global multi-platform football debate and discussion show ESPNsoccernet PressPass becomes ESPNFC PressPass. The football discussion show that looks, daily, at the global game with a global perspective, the show features panellists and contributors from around the world of football – including Shaka Hislop, Robbie Mustoe, Steve Nicol, Frank LeBoeuf and Jorge Ramos. Reflecting the cross-platform nature of ESPNFC, both TV and digital content will be heavily integrated to highlight major club news and analysis across all screens. Furthermore, the editorial agenda of both the TV show and web companion content will be closely aligned. Also tonight, the show makes its debut on ESPN television in the US. Previously available online in the US, the show will be available six days a week (weekdays plus Sundays) on ESPNews. Press Pass first debuted in September 2002 on ESPN International’s English-speaking networks.  It can now be seen in over 107 countries and territories around the world.ESPNFC will also provide new and unique, customizable digital opportunities for marketers who can work with ESPN to reach football fans on both a global and regional scale using ESPN’s worldwide sales teams. Online and on mobile, ESPNFC will have the ability to detect where a fan is accessing content, and deliver locally relevant coverage for that region. At launch, ESPNFC will launch in English and Spanish and will evolve over time to serve multiple languages.New ContributorsESPNFC will organize a developing worldwide network of writers, bloggers and analysts covering the latest news and developments 24/7, regardless of where they happen in the world. Each Barclays Premier League club and each of mainland Europe’s leading club sides, plus clubs elsewhere, will in time have a specific blogger on ESPNFC, connecting ESPNFC readers with the latest views and insights from their club.  ESPNFC is also developing a network of correspondents who will cover the latest news and stories from key football regions, initially including Spain, Italy and the regional hot-beds of football such as Manchester and London. Furthermore, fans can access a line-up of new big-name writers across multiple-platforms. They include:• Glenn Hoddle – former England national team manager, Hoddle will be contributor online and on mobile• Kevin Keegan – will contribute a column online and on mobile. The former Newcastle United, Fulham, Manchester City and England manager won a host of honours playing for the likes of Liverpool and Hamburg• Steve Nicol – Existing contributor on TV for PressPass, the former Liverpool player, Scotland international and New England Revolution manager, will additionally contribute regularly to ESPNFC online and on mobile• Gabriele Marcotti – Renowned international football journalist and expert on Italian, Spanish and English football, based in London, will write several times a week for ESPNFC and appear regularly on Press Pass.• Roger Bennett – a columnist for ESPNFC and host of Grantland, ESPN’s wide-ranging sports-scene site, Bennett will be covering the international game, with a focus on the Barclays Premier League.Comprehensive multimedia coverage from ESPNFC includes on-demand video highlights, studio programming clips, news, analysis and commentary, digital audio and podcasts, real-time scores, stats and more.  With particular emphasis on the live game experience, a Live MatchHQ service features data-driven content, including real-time scores and stats, highlights, message boards and more, all in a single unified interface. Outside of the UK, ESPNFC will also be integrated into ESPNdeportes.com, which serves the Spanish-speaking community in the US, and across football content on many of ESPN’s global TV, radio and print platforms. EURO 2012During EURO 2012, ESPNFC generated significant traffic online and on mobile platforms.  ESPNFC.com and ESPNsoccernet.com logged an average of 919,000 unique visitors and 12.7 million minutes per day during the tournament, up 35 percent and 205 percent respectively compared to EURO 2008.  Additionally, ESPNFC, ESPNsoccernet and ESPNdeportes mobile Web sites as well as the ESPNsoccernet app for iPhone and Android generated 33.6 million total page views, up 494 percent.
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Good. ESPNsoccernet.com is a PITA to type out each time.
 
No link, but Sky Sports News is reporting Modric is flying to Spain with his transfer to RM to be finalized tomorrow. Fee of £23m with add-ons taking it up to £27m.

That's either a little or a lot less than Spurs wanted depending on which rumors you listen to, so we'll see what happens.

 
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'GoFishTN said:
No link, but Sky Sports News is reporting Modric is flying to Spain with his transfer to RM to be finalized tomorrow. Fee of £23m with add-ons taking it up to £27m.That's either a little or a lot less than Spurs wanted depending on which rumors you listen to, so we'll see what happens.
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Sounds like a lot less. I remember reading Levy was balking at $30MM + add-ons in the last week. Now the add-ons don't even reach the initial lump sum he was seeking.
 
'Christo said:
'GoFishTN said:
No link, but Sky Sports News is reporting Modric is flying to Spain with his transfer to RM to be finalized tomorrow. Fee of £23m with add-ons taking it up to £27m.That's either a little or a lot less than Spurs wanted depending on which rumors you listen to, so we'll see what happens.
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Sounds like a lot less. I remember reading Levy was balking at $30MM + add-ons in the last week. Now the add-ons don't even reach the initial lump sum he was seeking.
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GoFish's number is in pounds, yours is in dollars. I think they're roughly in the same ballpark.
 
'Good said:
'Christo said:
'GoFishTN said:
No link, but Sky Sports News is reporting Modric is flying to Spain with his transfer to RM to be finalized tomorrow. Fee of £23m with add-ons taking it up to £27m.That's either a little or a lot less than Spurs wanted depending on which rumors you listen to, so we'll see what happens.
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Sounds like a lot less. I remember reading Levy was balking at $30MM + add-ons in the last week. Now the add-ons don't even reach the initial lump sum he was seeking.
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GoFish's number is in pounds, yours is in dollars. I think they're roughly in the same ballpark.
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I used the $ because I didn't want to search for the pounds. We're talking the same #s. I was reading British websites.
 
'NewlyRetired said:
Here are the initial live games that BeIn Sports will be showing8/1507:55PM Ecuador v Chile8/1702:45PM Lille v Nancy8/1801:00PM Celta de Vigo v Malaga03:00PM Sevilla v Getafe05:00PM Mallorca v Espanyol8/1911:00AM Olympique Marseille v Sochaux01:00PM Real Madrid v Valencia03:00PM Barcelona v Real Sociedad05:00PM Levante v Atletico Madrid
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Just called up DirectTV to get this. :thumbup:
 
'wdcrob said:
'Slapdash said:
Just called up DirectTV to get this. :thumbup:
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I know it's been discussed, but what was the final verdict wrt Beln and cable providers? Am I locked out of La Liga and Serie A now?
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For the moment, yes. They are probably negotiating daily. I'm sure the hardline Cable providers like Time Warner won't jump right on board. The new guys trying to gain market sure like Fios and U-Verse might grab it to lure more viewers. I'm afraid Cable's only hope may be some sort of Gol TV buyout. Maybe something like they did with Direct TV. I'm not sure if the same thing can be done on Cable.
 
'GoFishTN said:
No link, but Sky Sports News is reporting Modric is flying to Spain with his transfer to RM to be finalized tomorrow. Fee of £23m with add-ons taking it up to £27m.That's either a little or a lot less than Spurs wanted depending on which rumors you listen to, so we'll see what happens.
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Also in no link news, Nuri Sahin is supposed to be announced on a 1 year loan deal to Liverpool in the very near future.
 
I don't have a problem with the opportunity to watch Messi, but why would they schedule national friendlies this close to the start of the club season?

 
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What formation is United gonna play? I don't see too much playing time for whichever of welbeck/Hernandez sir Alex likes less

 
'TLEF316 said:
What formation is United gonna play? I don't see too much playing time for whichever of welbeck/Hernandez sir Alex likes less
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I think they're typically in a 4-4-2, and occasionally a 4-5-1. I can't think of any time they played three forwards together last year, although I think Rooney would be capable in an attacking midfielder role.But yeah, any way you cut it, Welbeck and Hernandez aren't going to see many starts. Lots of sub duty and some FA Cup games, probably. Poor Dimitar is even further down the pecking order.
 
'TLEF316 said:
What formation is United gonna play? I don't see too much playing time for whichever of welbeck/Hernandez sir Alex likes less
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While they usually use a 442, theres been talk of using a 4231 more often after they brought in Kagawa. Something like this:......................RVP/Welbeck/HernandezNani/Young......Rooney/Kagawa/Young........Valencia/Nani............Scholes/Fletcher.......Carrick/AndersonEvra..............Vidic................Ferdinand.......Rapheal/Jones/ValenciaEither way, somebody is definitely getting left out. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. They're really thin at those holding mid positions. Hopefully guys can stay healthy.
 
Arsenal rumored to be going after Llorente, who, like Van Persie, is on his last year and refusing to re-sign.

If they nab him, I think their offense is scarier this year than last. :shrug:

 
They're really more of 4-4-1-1 from what I can see. Rooney comes really deep to get the ball and never played as high up the field as the other forward.

The Japanese guy they got looks like he's a player, meaning someone else in the midfield (maybe Carrick, Anderson or Fletcher) is going to be buried as well

 
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'TLEF316 said:
They're really more of 4-4-1-1 from what I can see. Rooney comes really deep to get the ball and never played as high up the field as the other forward. The Japanese guy they got looks like he's a player, meaning someone else in the midfield (maybe Carrick, Anderson or Fletcher) is going to be buried as well
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Kagawa looks to be playing higher than Carrick or Fletcher. In all the preseason games he played in the hole behind the striker like Rooney often does.
 
'Bonzai said:
'TLEF316 said:
What formation is United gonna play? I don't see too much playing time for whichever of welbeck/Hernandez sir Alex likes less
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While they usually use a 442, theres been talk of using a 4231 more often after they brought in Kagawa. Something like this:......................RVP/Welbeck/HernandezNani/Young......Rooney/Kagawa/Young........Valencia/Nani............Scholes/Fletcher.......Carrick/AndersonEvra..............Vidic................Ferdinand.......Rapheal/Jones/ValenciaEither way, somebody is definitely getting left out. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. They're really thin at those holding mid positions. Hopefully guys can stay healthy.
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I am amazed they haven't made improvements at holding mid the last few years. I thought they were supposed to be making a strong play for Javi Martinez.
 
'Slapdash said:
'Bonzai said:
'TLEF316 said:
What formation is United gonna play? I don't see too much playing time for whichever of welbeck/Hernandez sir Alex likes less
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While they usually use a 442, theres been talk of using a 4231 more often after they brought in Kagawa. Something like this:......................RVP/Welbeck/HernandezNani/Young......Rooney/Kagawa/Young........Valencia/Nani............Scholes/Fletcher.......Carrick/AndersonEvra..............Vidic................Ferdinand.......Rapheal/Jones/ValenciaEither way, somebody is definitely getting left out. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. They're really thin at those holding mid positions. Hopefully guys can stay healthy.
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I am amazed they haven't made improvements at holding mid the last few years. I thought they were supposed to be making a strong play for Javi Martinez.
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There were some rumors, but I didn't see them linked very strongly to any holding mids this summer. It's baffling. If Carrick goes down, it's like a house of cards.
 
'Steve Tasker said:
Rooney and RvP together, that's ####### terrifying.
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I actually see this partnership ending badly. I can see some really poor chemistry.On another note, I think its very short-sighted that Arsenal would sell to United just because they offered the most money. They shouldve taken less money to sell him elsewhere (I thought Juventus offered 20M). I understand #### couldnt convince RVP to resign, but selling him to a fierce rival (whose been whipping your butt lately) shows very little ambition. Big mistake that they will live to regret.
 
'Native said:
'Steve Tasker said:
Rooney and RvP together, that's ####### terrifying.
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I actually see this partnership ending badly. I can see some really poor chemistry.On another note, I think its very short-sighted that Arsenal would sell to United just because they offered the most money. They shouldve taken less money to sell him elsewhere (I thought Juventus offered 20M). I understand #### couldnt convince RVP to resign, but selling him to a fierce rival (whose been whipping your butt lately) shows very little ambition. Big mistake that they will live to regret.
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There's been speculation that RVP was put off a bit by the match-fixing scandal at Juve, which encompasses Juve's coach. Or, Juve simply might not have been willing to meet his wage demands. If he's not willing to agree to personal terms, Juve isn't going to shell out as much money for him, obviously.In Juve's favor, he wouldn't have to face angry Arsenal fans, and it's a much easier path to "silverware", given that Juventus is probably going to take down Serie A this year.
 
'Bonzai said:
'Slapdash said:
'Bonzai said:
'TLEF316 said:
What formation is United gonna play? I don't see too much playing time for whichever of welbeck/Hernandez sir Alex likes less
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While they usually use a 442, theres been talk of using a 4231 more often after they brought in Kagawa. Something like this:......................RVP/Welbeck/HernandezNani/Young......Rooney/Kagawa/Young........Valencia/Nani............Scholes/Fletcher.......Carrick/AndersonEvra..............Vidic................Ferdinand.......Rapheal/Jones/ValenciaEither way, somebody is definitely getting left out. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. They're really thin at those holding mid positions. Hopefully guys can stay healthy.
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I am amazed they haven't made improvements at holding mid the last few years. I thought they were supposed to be making a strong play for Javi Martinez.
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There were some rumors, but I didn't see them linked very strongly to any holding mids this summer. It's baffling. If Carrick goes down, it's like a house of cards.
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A healthy Cleverley fits in there somewhere
 
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