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***OFFICIAL*** Steelers 2012 Thread (2 Viewers)

How many 3-4 ILB's in the NFL are game changers?!
Hence why I won't shed any tears if they decide to wait until the second round to go after a LB. I'm sure you've heard of Patrick Willis though. And Ray Lewis. And even Timmons to a degree.
Willis is a 4-3 ILB, Lewis is in more of a hybrid but his most dominant years early on were in the 4-3, if you asked me this a year ago I wouldve agreed with Timmons but now Im not as sold.My point was that seems like a bad reason to pass on Hightower though, and in reality, this defense doesnt need that at ILB. They need Farrior's replacement, and he is a perfect fit for that, called Bama's D the last 2 years. I think he's every bit as good, if not better, than Rolando McClain who went top 10 a couple years ago. Barring injury (and he is only a couple years back from tearing his ACL), he will be a force in the middle for 10+ years. I think he's worth the last 1st.Kiper and McShay just released their 1st mock in a month and both have us taking Hightower :thumbup:Kiper actually has a ILB from NEB, Lavonte David, going ahead of Hightower...he that good??? McShay has Glenn going before Decastro
 
How many 3-4 ILB's in the NFL are game changers?!
Hence why I won't shed any tears if they decide to wait until the second round to go after a LB. I'm sure you've heard of Patrick Willis though. And Ray Lewis. And even Timmons to a degree.
Willis is a 4-3 ILB, Lewis is in more of a hybrid but his most dominant years early on were in the 4-3, if you asked me this a year ago I wouldve agreed with Timmons but now Im not as sold.My point was that seems like a bad reason to pass on Hightower though, and in reality, this defense doesnt need that at ILB. They need Farrior's replacement, and he is a perfect fit for that, called Bama's D the last 2 years. I think he's every bit as good, if not better, than Rolando McClain who went top 10 a couple years ago. Barring injury (and he is only a couple years back from tearing his ACL), he will be a force in the middle for 10+ years. I think he's worth the last 1st.Kiper and McShay just released their 1st mock in a month and both have us taking Hightower :thumbup:Kiper actually has a ILB from NEB, Lavonte David, going ahead of Hightower...he that good??? McShay has Glenn going before Decastro
SF plays a 34 base. Bowman and Willis are the best 34 ILB pairing in the NFL right now.Lavonte David at 233 lbs. is real intriguing. Similar to Timmons and I think he plays better as a 43 Will, but he is a hell of a player.
 
How many 3-4 ILB's in the NFL are game changers?!
Hence why I won't shed any tears if they decide to wait until the second round to go after a LB. I'm sure you've heard of Patrick Willis though. And Ray Lewis. And even Timmons to a degree.
Willis is a 4-3 ILB, Lewis is in more of a hybrid but his most dominant years early on were in the 4-3, if you asked me this a year ago I wouldve agreed with Timmons but now Im not as sold.My point was that seems like a bad reason to pass on Hightower though, and in reality, this defense doesnt need that at ILB. They need Farrior's replacement, and he is a perfect fit for that, called Bama's D the last 2 years. I think he's every bit as good, if not better, than Rolando McClain who went top 10 a couple years ago. Barring injury (and he is only a couple years back from tearing his ACL), he will be a force in the middle for 10+ years. I think he's worth the last 1st.Kiper and McShay just released their 1st mock in a month and both have us taking Hightower :thumbup:Kiper actually has a ILB from NEB, Lavonte David, going ahead of Hightower...he that good??? McShay has Glenn going before Decastro
SF plays a 34 base. Bowman and Willis are the best 34 ILB pairing in the NFL right now.Lavonte David at 233 lbs. is real intriguing. Similar to Timmons and I think he plays better as a 43 Will, but he is a hell of a player.
Yeah, nevermind on Willis. He was a 43 ILB at first but they changed their D at some point a few years ago. Still, he's a once a decade type player. Lewis, Derrick Johnson, Timmons were all #1s and were drafted higher than we would take Hightower. I wanted us to take Bowman in 2010, and its pretty obvious now he wouldve been a better pick than Worilds. Really the only exception mentioned so far is Bishop who was a 6th rounder, and Im not so sure he isnt so productive because the rest of their front 7 is that bad or because he's that good at this point. Hightower appears to me about as small of a gamble as possible as a late 1st.Yeah, from the small blurbs I read today on David sound like he's similar to Burfict. Neither is probably as good a match for our D as Hightower Im guessing.
 
How many 3-4 ILB's in the NFL are game changers?!
Hence why I won't shed any tears if they decide to wait until the second round to go after a LB. I'm sure you've heard of Patrick Willis though. And Ray Lewis. And even Timmons to a degree.
Willis is a 4-3 ILB, Lewis is in more of a hybrid but his most dominant years early on were in the 4-3, if you asked me this a year ago I wouldve agreed with Timmons but now Im not as sold.My point was that seems like a bad reason to pass on Hightower though, and in reality, this defense doesnt need that at ILB. They need Farrior's replacement, and he is a perfect fit for that, called Bama's D the last 2 years. I think he's every bit as good, if not better, than Rolando McClain who went top 10 a couple years ago. Barring injury (and he is only a couple years back from tearing his ACL), he will be a force in the middle for 10+ years. I think he's worth the last 1st.Kiper and McShay just released their 1st mock in a month and both have us taking Hightower :thumbup:Kiper actually has a ILB from NEB, Lavonte David, going ahead of Hightower...he that good??? McShay has Glenn going before Decastro
SF plays a 34 base. Bowman and Willis are the best 34 ILB pairing in the NFL right now.Lavonte David at 233 lbs. is real intriguing. Similar to Timmons and I think he plays better as a 43 Will, but he is a hell of a player.
Yeah, nevermind on Willis. He was a 43 ILB at first but they changed their D at some point a few years ago. Still, he's a once a decade type player. Lewis, Derrick Johnson, Timmons were all #1s and were drafted higher than we would take Hightower. I wanted us to take Bowman in 2010, and its pretty obvious now he wouldve been a better pick than Worilds. Really the only exception mentioned so far is Bishop who was a 6th rounder, and Im not so sure he isnt so productive because the rest of their front 7 is that bad or because he's that good at this point. Hightower appears to me about as small of a gamble as possible as a late 1st.Yeah, from the small blurbs I read today on David sound like he's similar to Burfict. Neither is probably as good a match for our D as Hightower Im guessing.
We also skipped on Sean Lee in the 2nd round when he was admittedly the highest rated player on our board at the time. :kicksrock:
 
Yeah, from the small blurbs I read today on David sound like he's similar to Burfict. Neither is probably as good a match for our D as Hightower Im guessing.
Lavonte David? Nebraska?

I don't know what you've been reading, but as a homer that follows Nebraska year round, any comparison to Burfict is categorically unfounded.

He belongs in a 4-3 as a WILL, and as such, I don't see him as a Stillers draft prospect. But he's 100% high character.

Will be great in a Tampa-style WILL position

 
How many 3-4 ILB's in the NFL are game changers?!
Hence why I won't shed any tears if they decide to wait until the second round to go after a LB. I'm sure you've heard of Patrick Willis though. And Ray Lewis. And even Timmons to a degree.
Willis is a 4-3 ILB, Lewis is in more of a hybrid but his most dominant years early on were in the 4-3, if you asked me this a year ago I wouldve agreed with Timmons but now Im not as sold.My point was that seems like a bad reason to pass on Hightower though, and in reality, this defense doesnt need that at ILB. They need Farrior's replacement, and he is a perfect fit for that, called Bama's D the last 2 years. I think he's every bit as good, if not better, than Rolando McClain who went top 10 a couple years ago. Barring injury (and he is only a couple years back from tearing his ACL), he will be a force in the middle for 10+ years. I think he's worth the last 1st.

Kiper and McShay just released their 1st mock in a month and both have us taking Hightower :thumbup:

Kiper actually has a ILB from NEB, Lavonte David, going ahead of Hightower...he that good??? McShay has Glenn going before Decastro
SF plays a 34 base. Bowman and Willis are the best 34 ILB pairing in the NFL right now.Lavonte David at 233 lbs. is real intriguing. Similar to Timmons and I think he plays better as a 43 Will, but he is a hell of a player.
Yeah, nevermind on Willis. He was a 43 ILB at first but they changed their D at some point a few years ago. Still, he's a once a decade type player. Lewis, Derrick Johnson, Timmons were all #1s and were drafted higher than we would take Hightower. I wanted us to take Bowman in 2010, and its pretty obvious now he wouldve been a better pick than Worilds. Really the only exception mentioned so far is Bishop who was a 6th rounder, and Im not so sure he isnt so productive because the rest of their front 7 is that bad or because he's that good at this point. Hightower appears to me about as small of a gamble as possible as a late 1st.Yeah, from the small blurbs I read today on David sound like he's similar to Burfict. Neither is probably as good a match for our D as Hightower Im guessing.
We also skipped on Sean Lee in the 2nd round when he was admittedly the highest rated player on our board at the time. :kicksrock:
Yep, although of the 2 I thought Bowman would be a better pro. Both are pro bowl caliber players. I didnt like that Worilds pick from the start, and although I thought he finally showed me something this year, frustrating to know we couldve had either of those guys and be set for a long time with a great ILB but instead it looks very likely we will use a 1st to get that guy (instead of a 2nd in Lee's case, and even a 3rd in Bowman's case although I like having Sanders right now) and hope he turns out as good as either of the PSU studs.
 
Yeah, from the small blurbs I read today on David sound like he's similar to Burfict. Neither is probably as good a match for our D as Hightower Im guessing.
Lavonte David? Nebraska?

I don't know what you've been reading, but as a homer that follows Nebraska year round, any comparison to Burfict is categorically unfounded.

He belongs in a 4-3 as a WILL, and as such, I don't see him as a Stillers draft prospect. But he's 100% high character.

Will be great in a Tampa-style WILL position
I mainly made that comparison because it sounds like both guys have above average or better speed for a LB and have sideline to sideline ability. Thanks for the input though :thumbup:
 
I don't know what blows me away more, that somebody from the 4 letter network ranked Lavonte David over Hightower (umm...HA!) or that he was compared in any way to Burfict.

 
I don't know what blows me away more, that somebody from the 4 letter network ranked Lavonte David over Hightower (umm...HA!) or that he was compared in any way to Burfict.
Ive never seen David on film, like I said, just short write ups on him. Glad to be in the same league as Kiper and McShay though ;)
 
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I don't know what blows me away more, that somebody from the 4 letter network ranked Lavonte David over Hightower (umm...HA!) or that he was compared in any way to Burfict.
David over Hightower really isn't a stretch for a 43 team.I doubt Hightower fits at any spot on a 43 unless they want to convert him to DE, while David is an excellent WLB prospect.Conversely, Unless David goes the Bowman route and bulks up to move inside, he's not a natural fit in a 34.Different, but similarly talented players.
 
My point was that seems like a bad reason to pass on Hightower though, and in reality, this defense doesnt need that at ILB. They need Farrior's replacement,
The defense doesn't need more difference makers? *boggle*Getting the "next Farrior" shouldn't be the goal, in my mind, unless by that we mean "Farrior circa 8-9 years ago." That Farrior could have been classified a difference maker. He could do everything back then. With the proliferation of spread offenses, these effing "Joker" TEs that seemingly all the best teams have now, etc etc I will take another LB who can chase, cover, and tackle over a guy they are throwing out there to be Earl Holmes II(which is pretty much what Farrior had turned into by the end of his time here).I'm not saying I think that's all Hightower projects as, but I don't think he necessarily projects as much more than a 2-down thumper either, albeit a good one. All I'm saying is it would be nice if the Steelers could find a more complete type to put out there in place of Farrior, but The Keek should be long gone by their pick and I've no idea if the Steelers would entertain moving a more athletic player, like a Zach Brown, inside. I suppose they might. They did it with Timmons, I guess.
 
My point was that seems like a bad reason to pass on Hightower though, and in reality, this defense doesnt need that at ILB. They need Farrior's replacement,
The defense doesn't need more difference makers? *boggle*Getting the "next Farrior" shouldn't be the goal, in my mind, unless by that we mean "Farrior circa 8-9 years ago." That Farrior could have been classified a difference maker. He could do everything back then.

With the proliferation of spread offenses, these effing "Joker" TEs that seemingly all the best teams have now, etc etc I will take another LB who can chase, cover, and tackle over a guy they are throwing out there to be Earl Holmes II(which is pretty much what Farrior had turned into by the end of his time here).

I'm not saying I think that's all Hightower projects as, but I don't think he necessarily projects as much more than a 2-down thumper either, albeit a good one. All I'm saying is it would be nice if the Steelers could find a more complete type to put out there in place of Farrior, but The Keek should be long gone by their pick and I've no idea if the Steelers would entertain moving a more athletic player, like a Zach Brown, inside. I suppose they might. They did it with Timmons, I guess.
When I say Farrior's replacement, of course I mean in his prime, not the last 2 lackluster years.As for the bolded, you kind of asnwered your own question. They already have Timmons to cover athletic TE's

 
Colbert was at Alabama pro day today and Pauline said Hightower lacked burst and looked mechanical in backpedal...
As much as I like Hightower, this doesnt surprise me nor would I disagree with it really. Would looking mechanical have anything to do with his major knee surgery a couple years ago?Im big on Hightower mostly for his instincts and football intelligence more than anything. I think, for the most part, the athleticism and speed isnt far off and he can compensate for it because of the reasons I mentioned.
 
I think everyone is overlooking Stevenson Sylvester. In limited action he has looked excellent as an ILB. Quick, wraps good and makes big hits.

Needs to get a little better in pass coverage but I'd rather spend our 1st on a top OL, DL or BPA(Glenn, Poe, Decastro, Still) if one is still there before Hightower.

 
Tomlin at Miami pro day, word is Haley and Kugler are there too - maybe to take long look at OL Brandon Washington?

 
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I think everyone is overlooking Stevenson Sylvester. In limited action he has looked excellent as an ILB. Quick, wraps good and makes big hits.Needs to get a little better in pass coverage but I'd rather spend our 1st on a top OL, DL or BPA(Glenn, Poe, Decastro, Still) if one is still there before Hightower.
As a Sylvester dyno owner with a weak LB corps I sure haven't! Hope the Squeeler brass sees the same and gives him first crack at the job, only selecting potential backups at ILB in the draft.
 
I'm not forgetting about Sylvester....but I don't remembering him looking excellent outside of the PS games last year. He looked lost at times when given a shot 11-on-11 during the season. Great STer though.

Never know what another full offseason will do for him, but the Steelers banking only on him turning the corner would be a mistake.

 
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I'm not forgetting about Sylvester....but I don't remembering him looking excellent outside of the PS games last year. He looked lost at times when given a shot 11-on-11 during the season last year. Great STer though.Never know what another full offseason will do for him, but the Steelers banking only on him turning the corner would be a mistake.
Lots of current (and past) Steelers defensive guys looked lost their first couple season, only to turn into very good to great players. Troy played horrible and looked lost during his first year, as did Timmons. Quite a few others over time as well. Sylvester looks like he has all the tools, now he just needs time/snaps in that defense.
 
Totally agree, for the most part, I'm just opining that banking on only Sylvester wouldn't make me comfortable.

It's not like they can't use more talent at ILB anyway. Right now they only have 4 guys at the position, IIRC: One quality starter, one unproven young veteran who has looked way better on STs than 11-on-11, one PS type guy(if he's even still around. I think he's still on the roster) and a one-dimensional old guy who they probably want to be a backup again ASAP.

 
'Sigmund Bloom said:
Tomlin at Miami pro day, word is Haley and Kugler are there too - maybe to take long look at OL Brandon Washington?
And Streeter as a 2nd or 3rd round possibility to replace Wallace if he goes elsewhere?
 
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As for the bolded, you kind of asnwered your own question. They already have Timmons to cover athletic TE's
So having two of those guys isn't permitted/advisable?I'll just agree to disagree with you and move on.
Nah, Im with you in that 2 athletic ILB's would be best case scenario, but Id also rather have the guy lining up next to LT be able to call/control the defense more than an athletic specimen. I think Hightower fits that mold.
 
I think everyone is overlooking Stevenson Sylvester. In limited action he has looked excellent as an ILB. Quick, wraps good and makes big hits.Needs to get a little better in pass coverage but I'd rather spend our 1st on a top OL, DL or BPA(Glenn, Poe, Decastro, Still) if one is still there before Hightower.
I like Sylvester as well, a good bit. Then again, he strikes me as a very good backup more than a guy I want starting for our D. I wouldnt be too mad if Sylvester is a carryover starter this year, but I dont see him as a guy that should start for the Steelers at ILB longterm.Sidenote - why would we draft Still? He's either a 43-DT or maybe a 34-DE. Neither of those is right for us.
 
Totally agree, for the most part, I'm just opining that banking on only Sylvester wouldn't make me comfortable.

It's not like they can't use more talent at ILB anyway. Right now they only have 4 guys at the position, IIRC: One quality starter, one unproven young veteran who has looked way better on STs than 11-on-11, one PS type guy(if he's even still around. I think he's still on the roster) and a one-dimensional old guy who they probably want to be a backup again ASAP.
Timmons, Sylvester, ????, FooteOnly guy I can think of as your PS guy is Mortty Ivy. He's still around as far as I know, but we gotta have more ahead of him. Otherwise, shhhheeeeiiit. We need some help at ILB

#hightower ;)

 
Totally agree, for the most part, I'm just opining that banking on only Sylvester wouldn't make me comfortable.

It's not like they can't use more talent at ILB anyway. Right now they only have 4 guys at the position, IIRC: One quality starter, one unproven young veteran who has looked way better on STs than 11-on-11, one PS type guy(if he's even still around. I think he's still on the roster) and a one-dimensional old guy who they probably want to be a backup again ASAP.
Timmons, Sylvester, ????, FooteOnly guy I can think of as your PS guy is Mortty Ivy. He's still around as far as I know, but we gotta have more ahead of him. Otherwise, shhhheeeeiiit. We need some help at ILB

#hightower ;)
Yes, I meant Ivy.

And yeah, we absolutely need more guys in front of him which is why I said "It's not like they can't use more talent at ILB anyway" in regard to the idea that Sylvester/Rookie ILB may be enough.

They could draft a couple inside guys in this crop and no one should call them crazy.

#zachbrown :)

 
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Andy Dufresne in the draft thread seems to think Vikings OG Steve Hutchinson is going to get cut.He isn't quite what he once was (the best in the game) but he wants to play one more year and his salary is just too pricey (he had a mega deal w/ poison pill as a RFA from Seahawks) for them to keep on a bottom dwelling team. :excited:
Hutch has been cut. :mustachetwist:There is no way he wouldnt beat out both our current starting guards.
 
Foster, Lewis, Mundy, Legursky, Johnson all tendered offers
They were tendered the minimum (original draft pick) comp.Lewis 3rd rdMundy 5th rdJohnson 7th rdLegursky/Foster N/A**Were UDFA, so no compensation would be given if signed by other team and no contract was matched.
 
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Foster, Lewis, Mundy, Legursky, Johnson all tendered offers
They were tendered the minimum (original draft pick) comp.Lewis 3rd rdMundy 5th rdJohnson 7th rdLegursky/Foster N/A**Were UDFA, so no compensation would be given if signed by other team and no contract was matched.
Yeah, so what exactly is the salary for a 3rd round tender? I thought Lewis improved some last year, but I wouldnt mind getting a 3rd round pick for him.Then again, that would leave us with Ika and Allen if Gay leaves, so maybe not.
 
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_786187.html

A fire that left Steelers assistant coach Kirby Wilson severely burned and in a medically induced coma apparently won't stop him from returning to the sideline.

Coach Mike Tomlin told the Steelers' website Monday that he expects Wilson to resume coaching the team's running backs this season. Tomlin said Wilson, badly injured in a Jan. 6 fire, is "doing great" and is ahead of schedule as far as his recovery.

Tomlin said assistant special teams coach Amos Jones will fill in for Wilson until the latter is ready to return to work. Jones helped coach running backs at the University of Cincinnati from 1999-2002, and Tomlin coached the Bearcats' secondary for two of those seasons.

"We're very comfortable with our ability to bridge the gap, at least in the short-term, in house and continue to support Kirby in his recovery," Tomlin said.

Wilson, 50, has made major strides since he narrowly escaped a grease fire that started in the kitchen of his Seven Fields townhouse. Wilson sustained burns on 45 percent of his body and also suffered major smoke inhalation.

He has been at UPMC Mercy since the fire, which broke out two days before the Steelers' 29-23 loss to Denver in an AFC Wild Card game.

"He has surprised the doctors with the rate of recovery," Tomlin said. "Obviously we still have a long way to go, but it has been just awesome to watch him through this process and see the improvement in him."

Wilson has coached the Steelers' running backs since 2007, Tomlin's first season as head coach.

Read more: Steelers expect running backs coach to return - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_786187.html#ixzz1p0zAArw7
 
In serious news though, there are reports ex-CHI TE Kellen Davis has a visit planned with the Steelers at some point

 
The Houston Texans have released FB Lawrence Vickers.
Color me very interested. He wont be expensive at all. Not in today's NFL.His 2 million salary this year made him a cap casualty for the Texans who are pinned up against the max. But he remains a superior lead blocker.

 
The Houston Texans have released FB Lawrence Vickers.
Color me very interested. He wont be expensive at all. Not in today's NFL.His 2 million salary this year made him a cap casualty for the Texans who are pinned up against the max. But he remains a superior lead blocker.
Indeed...Have Haley's offenses tradionally used a FB?I dont think he's quite as good as Vickers, but Michael Robinson is also a FA, probably cheaper than Vickers, and coming off a Pro Bowl season leading the way for Marshawn's career year.

 
'Kenny Powers said:
'The Hank said:
'Kenny Powers said:
Foster, Lewis, Mundy, Legursky, Johnson all tendered offers
They were tendered the minimum (original draft pick) comp.Lewis 3rd rd

Mundy 5th rd

Johnson 7th rd

Legursky/Foster N/A*

*Were UDFA, so no compensation would be given if signed by other team and no contract was matched.
Yeah, so what exactly is the salary for a 3rd round tender? I thought Lewis improved some last year, but I wouldnt mind getting a 3rd round pick for him.Then again, that would leave us with Ika and Allen if Gay leaves, so maybe not.
Anybody???

 
Google down? :)

It's $1.26 million this year(at least that is what is being reported for the tender for Lewis, anyway).

 
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Google down? :)It's $1.26 million this year(at least that is what is being reported for the tender for Lewis, anyway).
Damn, thats dirt cheap. All those RFA's will be back at bargain prices then.And yes, google is down. My computer is ####ed and google doesnt work as a search engine for me for some reason. If I search on google and click 1 of the top few correct links it goes to spam/ad links :mellow:
 
The market has already been emptied besides the Bengals. Feeling confident Wallace stays a Steeler. If a long term deal is put into place it looks like 5yr. 40 mil for players competitive to Wallace.

 
The market has already been emptied besides the Bengals. Feeling confident Wallace stays a Steeler. If a long term deal is put into place it looks like 5yr. 40 mil for players competitive to Wallace.
VJax is 4yrs older than Wallace and has never had 1200yds or 10TDs in a season. Wallace has done both in his first 3yrs. VJax got 5/$55.5M with $26M guaranteed. IMO, the writing is on the wall and we cant retain Wallace longterm, and in all liklihood, he isnt worth what he'll get paid.With all that in mind, I really really hope somoeone gives him an offer this yr so we at least get something in return
 
Google down? :)It's $1.26 million this year(at least that is what is being reported for the tender for Lewis, anyway).
Damn, thats dirt cheap. All those RFA's will be back at bargain prices then.And yes, google is down. My computer is ####ed and google doesnt work as a search engine for me for some reason. If I search on google and click 1 of the top few correct links it goes to spam/ad links :mellow:
hijack you have a virus. You need to run malwarebytes and also something to run a boot time scan.Avast for example.
 
Google down? :)It's $1.26 million this year(at least that is what is being reported for the tender for Lewis, anyway).
Damn, thats dirt cheap. All those RFA's will be back at bargain prices then.And yes, google is down. My computer is ####ed and google doesnt work as a search engine for me for some reason. If I search on google and click 1 of the top few correct links it goes to spam/ad links :mellow:
hijack you have a virus. You need to run malwarebytes and also something to run a boot time scan.Avast for example.
:goodposting:
 
Google down? :)It's $1.26 million this year(at least that is what is being reported for the tender for Lewis, anyway).
Damn, thats dirt cheap. All those RFA's will be back at bargain prices then.And yes, google is down. My computer is ####ed and google doesnt work as a search engine for me for some reason. If I search on google and click 1 of the top few correct links it goes to spam/ad links :mellow:
hijack you have a virus. You need to run malwarebytes and also something to run a boot time scan.Avast for example.
check for a hijacked hosts file...check the browser settings for hijacked proxy settings.
 

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