***OFFICIAL Survivor: Blood vs. Water*** (1 Viewer)

[stbugs]

Colton paddled his oar like he was stroking a cat

Glad to see his redemption arc looks to be short lived. Also glad they immediately moved to minimize Rupert's screen time.

Although I do think it's lame Probst gave them fire. It wasn't always the case. What's the point of winning the reward at the challenge if the losing team gets the same thing 6 hours later? Used to be, on some seasons, they couldn't take the torches home and didn't get fire until they won the reward. Giving it to them now sucked. Let 'em suffer I say.

It hit me how interesting it was to split it up this way, in that it gave the 'loved ones' some minor advantage to even the playing field--logically, no returning player picked someone significantly older, figuring to use it to their advantage. With the script flipped, at least the loved ones tribe has youth on their side.

I hope he is gone soon, my son and I were laughing when he cried.

On the fire, I am pretty sure I remember Probst giving other teams flint at tribal before. A tribe can't go a week without water. No idea on the waterfall, but since they weren't filling up their canteens, I would assume that they couldn't drink that water. Based on the surival rules of three, you can go without water for 3 days. I am sure people have survived longer, but isn't it 3 days between tribal councils? If so, they would have a real problem without water after a couple days at the start and 3 more days. I would bet that there is not a case where they let a tribe go 2 periods (the time from the start to a tribal and then to the next tribal) without fire.

 

[blend]

Colton paddled his oar like he was stroking a cat

Glad to see his redemption arc looks to be short lived. Also glad they immediately moved to minimize Rupert's screen time.

Although I do think it's lame Probst gave them fire. It wasn't always the case. What's the point of winning the reward at the challenge if the losing team gets the same thing 6 hours later? Used to be, on some seasons, they couldn't take the torches home and didn't get fire until they won the reward. Giving it to them now sucked. Let 'em suffer I say.

It hit me how interesting it was to split it up this way, in that it gave the 'loved ones' some minor advantage to even the playing field--logically, no returning player picked someone significantly older, figuring to use it to their advantage. With the script flipped, at least the loved ones tribe has youth on their side.

I hope he is gone soon, my son and I were laughing when he cried.

On the fire, I am pretty sure I remember Probst giving other teams flint at tribal before. A tribe can't go a week without water. No idea on the waterfall, but since they weren't filling up their canteens, I would assume that they couldn't drink that water. Based on the surival rules of three, you can go without water for 3 days. I am sure people have survived longer, but isn't it 3 days between tribal councils? If so, they would have a real problem without water after a couple days at the start and 3 more days. I would bet that there is not a case where they let a tribe go 2 periods (the time from the start to a tribal and then to the next tribal) without fire.

I thought I remember a scene where the NFL player was pulling water out of a well while talking to some of the other guys on the tribe???

 

[Henry Ford]

Colton paddled his oar like he was stroking a cat

Glad to see his redemption arc looks to be short lived. Also glad they immediately moved to minimize Rupert's screen time.

Although I do think it's lame Probst gave them fire. It wasn't always the case. What's the point of winning the reward at the challenge if the losing team gets the same thing 6 hours later? Used to be, on some seasons, they couldn't take the torches home and didn't get fire until they won the reward. Giving it to them now sucked. Let 'em suffer I say.

It hit me how interesting it was to split it up this way, in that it gave the 'loved ones' some minor advantage to even the playing field--logically, no returning player picked someone significantly older, figuring to use it to their advantage. With the script flipped, at least the loved ones tribe has youth on their side.

I hope he is gone soon, my son and I were laughing when he cried.

On the fire, I am pretty sure I remember Probst giving other teams flint at tribal before. A tribe can't go a week without water. No idea on the waterfall, but since they weren't filling up their canteens, I would assume that they couldn't drink that water. Based on the surival rules of three, you can go without water for 3 days. I am sure people have survived longer, but isn't it 3 days between tribal councils? If so, they would have a real problem without water after a couple days at the start and 3 more days. I would bet that there is not a case where they let a tribe go 2 periods (the time from the start to a tribal and then to the next tribal) without fire.

I thought I remember a scene where the NFL player was pulling water out of a well while talking to some of the other guys on the tribe???

I think that's why they give them fire early these days. A few seasons ago, somebody on a tribe that hadn't had fire several days in just said "screw it" and started drinking unboiled water, just hoping he wouldn't get a brain-eating amoeba. That's probably an insurance problem.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

gervaise killing it in the stereo type criteria. what a lame ###

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

gervaise killing it in the stereo type criteria

But he's still in 2nd place by a country mile.

 

[Sarnoff]

Colton paddled his oar like he was stroking a cat

Glad to see his redemption arc looks to be short lived. Also glad they immediately moved to minimize Rupert's screen time.

Although I do think it's lame Probst gave them fire. It wasn't always the case. What's the point of winning the reward at the challenge if the losing team gets the same thing 6 hours later? Used to be, on some seasons, they couldn't take the torches home and didn't get fire until they won the reward. Giving it to them now sucked. Let 'em suffer I say.

It hit me how interesting it was to split it up this way, in that it gave the 'loved ones' some minor advantage to even the playing field--logically, no returning player picked someone significantly older, figuring to use it to their advantage. With the script flipped, at least the loved ones tribe has youth on their side.

I hope he is gone soon, my son and I were laughing when he cried.

On the fire, I am pretty sure I remember Probst giving other teams flint at tribal before. A tribe can't go a week without water. No idea on the waterfall, but since they weren't filling up their canteens, I would assume that they couldn't drink that water. Based on the surival rules of three, you can go without water for 3 days. I am sure people have survived longer, but isn't it 3 days between tribal councils? If so, they would have a real problem without water after a couple days at the start and 3 more days. I would bet that there is not a case where they let a tribe go 2 periods (the time from the start to a tribal and then to the next tribal) without fire.

Both have happened in different seasons. Probst has said, "Since you've been to tribal, you get flint", which is stupid, because then why make it a "prize" for the winners in the challenge not 6 hours before? He's also said "You haven't won fire, so you don't get to take your torches back, leave them here, fire must be earned on the battlefield." Which I like. Let's see these guys suffer some.

While I'm aware there's precedent for both scenarios, I'm saying I prefer the latter.

 

[Mario Kart]

You guys are terrible. Updated power rankings below:

1a. Colton

1b. Gervase

3. Parvati

4-20. Everyone else.

Call me dumb but I don't get voting off who they did. She looks like an athlete (volleyball) and is younger than the others. The other could not put a peg into a hole and screw it (that sounds interesting). Just seems like the wrong way to go this early.

 

[Corporation]

I was surprised (and disappointed from an eye candy standpoint) that the veterans picked Candice immediately. She's young and athletic, I'd definitely have voted Tina off instead. Katie was definitely the one to vote off on the other tribe.

 

[EYLive]

Yep, not having more screen time for Candace is a bummer.

But I'm glad they kept Katie. Her body is pretty soft but I'm enjoying her curves, and a few weeks of starvation will do her good.

 

[Mile High]

I was surprised (and disappointed from an eye candy standpoint) that the veterans picked Candice immediately. She's young and athletic, I'd definitely have voted Tina off instead. Katie was definitely the one to vote off on the other tribe.

The veterans are a clique, if you're not in it then you're out.

 

[blend]

I was surprised (and disappointed from an eye candy standpoint) that the veterans picked Candice immediately. She's young and athletic, I'd definitely have voted Tina off instead. Katie was definitely the one to vote off on the other tribe.

The veterans are a clique, if you're not in it then you're out.

I read someplace that Candace and her husband were late additions when someone didn't pass the physical (high blood pressure I think)... So she didn't have time before the game started to get to know the other folks

ETA: found where I read it: The first vote definitely seemed fueled by pre-game alliances and conversations, or the lack thereof for Candace. She was a last-minute replacement to the original cast, flown in to replace RC and her dad when RC’s father failed a medical check because of high blood pressure. Clearly, the other returnees didn’t trust her, perhaps because of her previous game play or perhaps because they didn’t have a chance to make pre-alliances with her.

Woudl have liked to have seen RC on a season once again.

 

[Disco Stu]

Yeah, so many veterans claiming to not know Candace was puzzling... she's been on two seasons. Don't they watch the show?

But they meant they don't know her personally. She must not run in the "former players" circle.

 

[Disco Stu]

The difference this time is that (at least on paper) the rookies should have a big physical advantage. Maybe I'm underrating a 49 year old Rupert, but it appears the newbie tribe has the three strongest players (John, Brad, Hayden) and only one weak link (Rupert's wife). I don't think the vets can keep up.

This is even more lopsided than it first appeared. Veterans are going to need a puzzle in every challenge to have a shot.

The beach voting results were huge for the rookies. They dropped their physically weakest player, who was then picked up by the veterans, which had to drop their strongest guy in addition to arguably their strongest girl.

 

[stbugs]

Yep, not having more screen time for Candace is a bummer.

But I'm glad they kept Katie. Her body is pretty soft but I'm enjoying her curves, and a few weeks of starvation will do her good.

I was thinking the same thing. If she's around for a while, she is one that will get better looking. That said, not much eye candy at all this time.

 

[Disco Stu]

Gervaise almost drowning then talking smack was GOLD

Hoping to see a reaction from him next week. Then for Brad or somebody to respond "that's what you get Michael Phelps".

Unrelated: I half expected Brad to be a surprise first boot. That guy had a ton of screen time and is playing a little too hard this early. And what was with the lengthy and confusing 5>4 math explanation?

We didn't see Hayden being quite as gung-ho on the guys alliance, so I thought he might be with the girls. Speaking of the girls, Tyson's gf didn't say two words but GD is she cute.

 

[stbugs]

Gervaise almost drowning then talking smack was GOLD

Hoping to see a reaction from him next week. Then for Brad or somebody to respond "that's what you get Michael Phelps".

Unrelated: I half expected Brad to be a surprise first boot. That guy had a ton of screen time and is playing a little too hard this early. And what was with the lengthy and confusing 5>4 math explanation?

We didn't see Hayden being quite as gung-ho on the guys alliance, so I thought he might be with the girls. Speaking of the girls, Tyson's gf didn't say two words but GD is she cute.

Ummm, he's not smart? That's why he is playing too hard. If he was smarter, he would have known to A) not profess his love to his wife in the first meeting of the tribe, B) not jumped out at the leader and paint a huge bulls eye on his back and C) not looked like a fool trying to figure out how many fingers he has on one hand.

 

[Disco Stu]

Colton is already on my last nerve.

Just took it off the DVR record list. I'm sick of the show bringing back bad players. That was the most boring season opener to date.

Couldn't disagree more. This show almost always starts slow. The "loved ones" angle made this one of the best openers I can remember.

There's so much more to consider this time. What kind of alliance do you want, knowing everyone has someone they trust on the other tribe? A large majority is either going to grow at the merge to pull in the loved ones, or it will fracture.

I think I'd look to keep people who are likely to lose their loved one quickly. That's why voting out Marissa right away was a mistake. Gervace shouldn't last long, and even if he does Marissa was quick to throw him under the bus. That shows that she'd be quick to vote him out when needed. Much less loyalty there than with a spouse or parent/child.

 

[snogger]

Colton is already on my last nerve.

Just took it off the DVR record list. I'm sick of the show bringing back bad players. That was the most boring season opener to date.

Couldn't disagree more. This show almost always starts slow. The "loved ones" angle made this one of the best openers I can remember.

There's so much more to consider this time. What kind of alliance do you want, knowing everyone has someone they trust on the other tribe? A large majority is either going to grow at the merge to pull in the loved ones, or it will fracture.

I think I'd look to keep people who are likely to lose their loved one quickly. That's why voting out Marissa right away was a mistake. Gervace shouldn't last long, and even if he does Marissa was quick to throw him under the bus. That shows that she'd be quick to vote him out when needed. Much less loyalty there than with a spouse or parent/child.

The line one of the newbies said was perfect.. "Normally, the other tribe doesn't really care who you vote off.. Now you have to weigh not only who you vote off, but how the other tribe is going to react"

 

[B-Deep]

i kind of would have preferred if each loved ones pair went up and randomly drew for who was on which tribe

so the tribes we mixed vet and n00b

 

[snogger]

i kind of would have preferred if each loved ones pair went up and randomly drew for who was on which tribe

so the tribes we mixed vet and n00b

thought this was how they were going to do it at first.. but I like the way it sets up another game now when it comes down to voting someone off.

 

[jamny]

Off to a good start I think. As others have said, disappointed by the lack of hot women. I don't think that one guy is as tight in the all-men alliance as the others. The one that called them meatheads, don't know who he is. What was the total run time of that episode? They seemed to squeeze a lot of commercials into that hour and a half. I hope the rest are just 1 hour.

 

[Sarnoff]

Unrelated: I half expected Brad to be a surprise first boot. That guy had a ton of screen time and is playing a little too hard this early.

It was pretty apparent who would lose the challenge after they spent so much time showing how the alliance lines were drawn on one tribe and ignored the other.

 

[jamny]

It would be bad enough if Gervace acted like that after a strong performance but how could he possibly be anything but humble after that disaster he put in?

 

[Sarnoff]

Colton is already on my last nerve.

Just took it off the DVR record list. I'm sick of the show bringing back bad players. That was the most boring season opener to date.

Couldn't disagree more. This show almost always starts slow. The "loved ones" angle made this one of the best openers I can remember.

There's so much more to consider this time. What kind of alliance do you want, knowing everyone has someone they trust on the other tribe? A large majority is either going to grow at the merge to pull in the loved ones, or it will fracture.

I think I'd look to keep people who are likely to lose their loved one quickly. That's why voting out Marissa right away was a mistake. Gervace shouldn't last long, and even if he does Marissa was quick to throw him under the bus. That shows that she'd be quick to vote him out when needed. Much less loyalty there than with a spouse or parent/child.

The line one of the newbies said was perfect.. "Normally, the other tribe doesn't really care who you vote off.. Now you have to weigh not only who you vote off, but how the other tribe is going to react"

After 27 seasons, all of the returning players and usually most of the new players know how the game works. Either Boston Rob's strategy or Cochran's. Make an alliance day 1. Don't let people go off alone, partner everyone up so you know who talks to who. Etc.

This new dynamic actually changes a lot of the strategy. It should finally be interesting for the first time in a long time.

For example, do you boot the other half of a pair, or keep singletons around for the end? If you're part of a couple, you don't want other couples surviving to the merge, because power-pairs are going to be impossible to break. So should they boot Gervase because only one can return between him and his niece, or, keep him around and break up another couple and figure eventually all the pairs will be broken up?

 

[DCThunder]

It is interesting because on seasons past, the BB hamsters have talked about how much tougher Survivor is than BB. Now Hayden is saying that BB is just "Survivor in a house". Uhhhh, no, Hayden you meathead, it isn't.

 

[B-Deep]

It would be bad enough if Gervace acted like that after a strong performance but how could he possibly be anything but humble after that disaster he put in?

that is what makes it so awesome

he wasn't just bad

he had to be rescued from death by a teammate he was so bad

and why not speak up

"hey, i may suck at puzzles, but the chances of me dying while doing a puzzle are nill, however if you make me swim that I'm gonna need baywatch or a funeral director"

 

[phatdawg]

It would be bad enough if Gervace acted like that after a strong performance but how could he possibly be anything but humble after that disaster he put in?

that is what makes it so awesome

he wasn't just bad

he had to be rescued from death by a teammate he was so bad

and why not speak up

"hey, i may suck at puzzles, but the chances of me dying while doing a puzzle are nill, however if you make me swim that I'm gonna need baywatch or a funeral director"

Based on his behavior, Gervace doesn't strike me as particularly self-aware. Not surprising that he thought he could handle the swim.

 

[Corporation]

The difference this time is that (at least on paper) the rookies should have a big physical advantage. Maybe I'm underrating a 49 year old Rupert, but it appears the newbie tribe has the three strongest players (John, Brad, Hayden) and only one weak link (Rupert's wife). I don't think the vets can keep up.

This is even more lopsided than it first appeared. Veterans are going to need a puzzle in every challenge to have a shot.

The beach voting results were huge for the rookies. They dropped their physically weakest player, who was then picked up by the veterans, which had to drop their strongest guy in addition to arguably their strongest girl.

Boneheaded move all the way around, and easily plantable by the producers. Laura was clearly the weak link of the loved ones, and they knew Rupert would take her place.

 

[Sarnoff]

It would be bad enough if Gervace acted like that after a strong performance but how could he possibly be anything but humble after that disaster he put in?

that is what makes it so awesome

he wasn't just bad

he had to be rescued from death by a teammate he was so bad

and why not speak up

"hey, i may suck at puzzles, but the chances of me dying while doing a puzzle are nill, however if you make me swim that I'm gonna need baywatch or a funeral director"

Based on his behavior, Gervace doesn't strike me as particularly self-aware. Not surprising that he thought he could handle the swim.

I got to know him a bit during Season 1, while it was airing (before the episode he got voted out was broadcast). I drove him around town for a week for appearances. He's a cool dude. Nice guy. Invited me to his birthday party. But a bit spacy.

 

[Disco Stu]

I half expected Brad to be a surprise first boot. That guy had a ton of screen time and is playing a little too hard this early. And what was with the lengthy and confusing 5>4 math explanation?

Ummm, he's not smart? That's why he is playing too hard. If he was smarter, he would have known to A) not profess his love to his wife in the first meeting of the tribe, B) not jumped out at the leader and paint a huge bulls eye on his back and C) not looked like a fool trying to figure out how many fingers he has on one hand.

Too late for Brad to get in on that NFL concussion lawsuit?

 

[Disco Stu]

"JUST SHUT UP AND PADDLE"

lol

I could be wrong, but it looks like the boat is drifting badly to his side. And he's paddling backwards... making it worse.

 

[jamny]

"JUST SHUT UP AND PADDLE"

lol

I could be wrong, but it looks like the boat is drifting badly to his side. And he's paddling backwards... making it worse.

He is...

 

[stbugs]

I half expected Brad to be a surprise first boot. That guy had a ton of screen time and is playing a little too hard this early. And what was with the lengthy and confusing 5>4 math explanation?

Ummm, he's not smart? That's why he is playing too hard. If he was smarter, he would have known to A) not profess his love to his wife in the first meeting of the tribe, B) not jumped out at the leader and paint a huge bulls eye on his back and C) not looked like a fool trying to figure out how many fingers he has on one hand.

Too late for Brad to get in on that NFL concussion lawsuit?

Probably. That and the fact that the laywer's office is in suite 945 means he has no chance to find it.

 

[B-Deep]

i wonder at what point producers would have jumped in and saved the dude from drowning, i wonder if the medics were looking at him like "15 more seconds and we'll have to fish him out..."

crossover, Gervaise becomes a priest of the drowned god when survivor medics revive him "what is dead may never die"

 

[jhib]

It would be bad enough if Gervace acted like that after a strong performance but how could he possibly be anything but humble after that disaster he put in?

Typical Eagles fan.

Aras was right to vote for him on the beach for that reason.

 

[UOFI_316]

"JUST SHUT UP AND PADDLE"

lol

I could be wrong, but it looks like the boat is drifting badly to his side. And he's paddling backwards... making it worse.

At one point they had gone almost completely around and started paddling backwards towards shore.

 

[Sarnoff]

I half expected Brad to be a surprise first boot. That guy had a ton of screen time and is playing a little too hard this early. And what was with the lengthy and confusing 5>4 math explanation?

Ummm, he's not smart? That's why he is playing too hard. If he was smarter, he would have known to A) not profess his love to his wife in the first meeting of the tribe, B) not jumped out at the leader and paint a huge bulls eye on his back and C) not looked like a fool trying to figure out how many fingers he has on one hand.

Too late for Brad to get in on that NFL concussion lawsuit?

After he finished in the NFL, Brad went to law school & got his degree. Opened his own firm. Actually, he was one of the lawyers representing the players in the massive suit.

I think he was just tired & dehydrated.

 

[TLEF316]

Lots of pretty funny moments in the first episode. Colton lasting all of about 25 minutes before his bitter, angry, totally spastic queen side comes out. Classic.

And as usual, the black dude can't swim. Other than the one dude that played on the US water polo team that one year, black guys are pretty much 0 for the history of the show in swimming challenges.

And yeah, lack of eye candy is rough. Candyce is a nice little slice and Monica is hot for an older woman. But other than that, its pretty rough. Maybe you could give Kat credit for being the best looking girl in the trailer park

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Just got caught up on DVR. Does anyone else have naughty thoughts about "Teen Mom" and Mrs. Culpepper?

 

[Daywalker]

Lots of pretty funny moments in the first episode. Colton lasting all of about 25 minutes before his bitter, angry, totally spastic queen side comes out. Classic.

And as usual, the black dude can't swim. Other than the one dude that played on the US water polo team that one year, black guys are pretty much 0 for the history of the show in swimming challenges.

And yeah, lack of eye candy is rough. Candyce is a nice little slice and Monica is hot for an older woman. But other than that, its pretty rough. Maybe you could give Kat credit for being the best looking girl in the trailer park

The lack of eye candy is amazing. Usually in these threads 20% is talking about the hot girl and in many cases they don't even have speaking parts on the show. Was it last season with Miss Utah?

Their should be 5 hot girls every season. It's a silly bikini/beach show. They underestimate how important this is nearly every year. This season is like a bar full of dudes. Not amount of laughs will make me want to come back again.

 

[HughHoney]

Nobody notice how amazing the black chicks ### was. Also Katie has a killer rack. Rc woulda been a nice addition.

I think this season will get really good with the merge. I'm calling it now, Candice's bf takes her place at RI if its allowed and dominates the challenge.

 

[JZilla]

Katie does it for me

 

[wadegarrett]

Katie does it for me

Not bad. Huge cans though.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Nobody notice how amazing the black chicks ### was.

you can have it. :X plus she looked about 16

 

[TLEF316]

How can anybody see Colton and actually not think that homosexuality is genetic?

 

[Mario Kart]

Not sure who is more dumb... Gervase or Colton? Don't either of them learn anything by watching other seasons?

Kat looks like Miley Cyrus.

The new guys are not using their brains either unless it is an editing trick.

The dynamic of this season is pretty darn good.

 

[jhib]

I didn't for a second think it would happen, but I was actually hoping they would vote John out just so we could see the dynamic of a couple together at redemption island. It would make the challenge even more interesting. Hope that happens at some point (chances are it has to, right?).

I'm really liking the twist this year so far. It definitely makes the early season voting much more meaningful than usual.

 

[Sarnoff]

Totally great twist. So much complexity to the voting. Even Tyson has it wrong... "Us five, here to the end." Any alliance almost has to fall apart when loved ones merge. Five can't be ten. Can't just pagong away endlessly. (also, hilarious Gervase has the PAGONG tattoo)

Oh, and Katie's thigh-high striped athletic socks.

 

[Daywalker]

Was Tyson holding one of the dude's in his arms around the campfire?

 

[HughHoney]

Was Tyson holding one of the dude's in his arms around the campfire?

Ya. Really strange. I kinda thought he was gay last time he was on. NTTAWWT. It can't be said enough how great a dynamic this season is. John wanting to send Cerie or Katie packing is a great strategy for his woman to survive another challenge.