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***OFFICIAL Survivor: Blood vs. Water*** (1 Viewer)

I'm still waiting for the episode where a voted out tribe member uses their allotted 10 seconds of last message to the viewers to say something like, "Contestant X cheats on his wife with her sister Laura. Contestant Y is HIV positive and Contestant Z uses illegal migrant labor in his restaurant." I mean pure and total malice meant to destroy another person's personal life back at home. To me that would be interesting payback for voting that person out.
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They would edited it out if it wasn't part of the story line they are pushing. Watch the live feeds of BB compared to the edited version they are pushing to the viewers for example. What really goes on and what they show is an eye opening experience to how editing is used to advance a story line that may not be what has been going on game wise..


 
Mile High said:
I'm still waiting for the episode where a voted out tribe member uses their allotted 10 seconds of last message to the viewers to say something like, "Contestant X cheats on his wife with her sister Laura. Contestant Y is HIV positive and Contestant Z uses illegal migrant labor in his restaurant." I mean pure and total malice meant to destroy another person's personal life back at home. To me that would be interesting payback for voting that person out.
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They would edited it out if it wasn't part of the story line they are pushing. Watch the live feeds of BB compared to the edited version they are pushing to the viewers for example. What really goes on and what they show is an eye opening experience to how editing is used to advance a story line that may not be what has been going on game wise..
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Yeah...I enjoy Survivor for what it is, but you have to know that we are getting a story that they want us to get. A mix of fiction and fact.

 
The Dude said:
Did that dork say "Big Kahunas" when he was trying to say "Big cojones?"
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So, so dumb for him to sit back and think that he "had it made" or has "control or power". So short-sighted. He's one swing vote in a decimated tribe. Big deal.

 
GordonGekko said:
I'm pretty sure that last Redemption Island challenge was set up to boot Candace out of the game. Instead of a concentration/puzzle one, where she excels, it was more one of physicality and large item manipulation/building. The show is still geared to try to be a family show, and flipping the bird and cussing out Brad Culpepper is going too far. Culpepper is right, he might be a ########, but he's right, it's just a game, he's trying to play it, it's not personal.
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That was the exact kind of challenge she has been so good at - a mix of athletic ability (mostly balance, not brute strength) and puzzle. Those weren't huge items she had to manipulate. There's no way that's the challenge they would have chosen for her against two strong men if they definitely wanted her out.

She revealed in an interview that she stumbled at the end of puzzle because two of her pieces were lying upside-down on the ground so she didn't realize they were puzzle pieces that she could have used instead of the one that wasn't fitting for her. It sounds like other than that happening, she would have beat out Brad.

 
Yeah I'm kinda disappointed the Gekko alias has shown up here to smear feces around. Let's uh, not quote him please.

 
GordonGekko said:
Plaid Boxer said:
Labeling a person weak based only on sexual orientation-there is just no place for it.
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Clearly the show set up a much softer challenge so that the new members tribe would have a better chance at it this week.

I think most people really underestimate that what specific challenges the show uses is a way to shape the culling of the herd the way they want it for ratings and marketing. Classically, to keep a woman on the show, Survivor just needs to use a balancing challenging, where women are more bottom heavy and shorter and have somewhat of an advantage. Early on, a lot of the challenges this season required physical strength, so it was clear to me that the show wanted to save as many returning members as they could to start, as they already have built in individual fan bases.

Caleb provides a pretty complicated problem for CBS and the show. Colton just comes off as a despicable loser. This is just too problematic for the liberal gay agenda. The liberal gay agenda likes to simply label ANY criticism of anyone homosexual as a pure attack on their preference/lifestyle. Once you isolate the question into one of pure merit, the agenda loses all it's power. On a merit basis, Colton is everything the gay agenda does not want. The possibility that a gay person could simply be a deficient worthless human being irregardless of who they sleep with is too much of a liability for the gay lobbyists who will pressure CBS sponsors and advertisers. If anything, CBS is under the gun to try to show Caleb and edit him,in so much as possible, in a positive light, to counterbalance the Colton issue. Look how pervasive it is on this board, whenever a "gay topic" comes up, the same 10-15 guys, who don't really do much to conceal the fact that they are gay themselves, rush to the defense of anything gay, irregardless of merit. But how can you do that with Colton? Now imagine if you are basically a billion dollar franchise like Survivor and the immense pressure you get from outside lobbyists, sponsors, your own PR and marketing divisions and your own legal division.

I'm pretty sure that last Redemption Island challenge was set up to boot Candace out of the game. Instead of a concentration/puzzle one, where she excels, it was more one of physicality and large item manipulation/building. The show is still geared to try to be a family show, and flipping the bird and cussing out Brad Culpepper is going too far. Culpepper is right, he might be a ########, but he's right, it's just a game, he's trying to play it, it's not personal.

I'm still waiting for the episode where a voted out tribe member uses their allotted 10 seconds of last message to the viewers to say something like, "Contestant X cheats on his wife with her sister Laura. Contestant Y is HIV positive and Contestant Z uses illegal migrant labor in his restaurant." I mean pure and total malice meant to destroy another person's personal life back at home. To me that would be interesting payback for voting that person out.
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so many flaws in this post

 
I still don't get why some of these people were brought back. Very few interesting returning players.

Tina made a total fool of herself in that challenge. First she swims back without the fish cage. They she jumps up and down like a 4 year old while Probst checks their puzzle....only to be wrong......twice.

Her beating in his prime Colby is one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the show. Its right up there with Russell losing his first season to that southern blond with the absurdly good bikini body.

 
I can't believe they just stood there on the beach looking back in the water, instead of two people who knew what happened just jumping in and getting the traps. Unless there was some weird rule that the duo that started the attempt must complete it, but in the past we've seen similar diving challenges where a person couldn't finish their turn and they got relieved by teammates.

Vytas had an interesting opportunity at the water well with Tina and Monica Culpepper. They both acknowledged he was their target. Tina even explained why... wanting to make sure it wasn't a boys v. girls thing after the merge. With a daughter on her side, that's an obvious issue. I wonder if Vytas said back "Keep me, and I can bring Aras along to our side. Then it's me & Aras, you and Katie, and Moncia here, we'd be a strong 5. All with ties to people on the other side that we could exploit to go further, but make sure it was the 5 of us sticking together... I'd never have to betray Aras, Tina, you'd be able to be loyal to Katie the whole way." With Monica un-aligned without a loved one, it'd be an interesting dynamic as they'd have a 4-person majority in the current tribe, and then a good shot at a majority after the merge if Vytas could deliver Aras to their side.

 
Sarnoff said:
I can't believe they just stood there on the beach looking back in the water, instead of two people who knew what happened just jumping in and getting the traps. Unless there was some weird rule that the duo that started the attempt must complete it, but in the past we've seen similar diving challenges where a person couldn't finish their turn and they got relieved by teammates.

Vytas had an interesting opportunity at the water well with Tina and Monica Culpepper. They both acknowledged he was their target. Tina even explained why... wanting to make sure it wasn't a boys v. girls thing after the merge. With a daughter on her side, that's an obvious issue. I wonder if Vytas said back "Keep me, and I can bring Aras along to our side. Then it's me & Aras, you and Katie, and Moncia here, we'd be a strong 5. All with ties to people on the other side that we could exploit to go further, but make sure it was the 5 of us sticking together... I'd never have to betray Aras, Tina, you'd be able to be loyal to Katie the whole way." With Monica un-aligned without a loved one, it'd be an interesting dynamic as they'd have a 4-person majority in the current tribe, and then a good shot at a majority after the merge if Vytas could deliver Aras to their side.
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That's very possible. They can even still throw a challenge and vote out Ruperts wife to keep Aras safe.. They have to be thinking a Merge is coming soon.

 
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Just like a recent season, it's hard to believe the luck of the draw would create such a physically dominant team. Probably not what the producers wanted (of course they almost came back and won the challenge).

I also thought the Redemption Island puzzle was easy (just put numbers in order). Brad still seemed to struggle with it (with the balance beam being a problem for him).

 
TLEF316 said:
I still don't get why some of these people were brought back. Very few interesting returning players.

Tina made a total fool of herself in that challenge. First she swims back without the fish cage. They she jumps up and down like a 4 year old while Probst checks their puzzle....only to be wrong......twice.

Her beating in his prime Colby is one of the greatest tragedies in the history of the show. Its right up there with Russell losing his first season to that southern blond with the absurdly good bikini body.
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I agree. This cast is really boring.

Bringing back Tina was a bad decision, she is a really dull player and not one of the family members save Vytas and Culpepper who just got booted are even remotely interesting.

They tinkered too much here.

Rupert's wife is a waste of space, do you think they ever ran through a scenario where what would happen if she got booted. DId it occur to them that Rupert would always do the honorable thing and keep her in the game. I really have to wonder if they did because she could be the most boring player of all time.

And Sierra/Laura, why were they here?

Terrible job Survivor.

 
Mile High said:
Sarnoff said:
I can't believe they just stood there on the beach looking back in the water, instead of two people who knew what happened just jumping in and getting the traps. Unless there was some weird rule that the duo that started the attempt must complete it, but in the past we've seen similar diving challenges where a person couldn't finish their turn and they got relieved by teammates.

Vytas had an interesting opportunity at the water well with Tina and Monica Culpepper. They both acknowledged he was their target. Tina even explained why... wanting to make sure it wasn't a boys v. girls thing after the merge. With a daughter on her side, that's an obvious issue. I wonder if Vytas said back "Keep me, and I can bring Aras along to our side. Then it's me & Aras, you and Katie, and Moncia here, we'd be a strong 5. All with ties to people on the other side that we could exploit to go further, but make sure it was the 5 of us sticking together... I'd never have to betray Aras, Tina, you'd be able to be loyal to Katie the whole way." With Monica un-aligned without a loved one, it'd be an interesting dynamic as they'd have a 4-person majority in the current tribe, and then a good shot at a majority after the merge if Vytas could deliver Aras to their side.
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That's very possible. They can even still throw a challenge and vote out Ruperts wife to keep Aras safe.. They have to be thinking a Merge is coming soon.
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Yeah I thought Vytas' best move was to tell Tina and Monica that when the merge happens and it's boy v. girl that they should stick together. If it's boy majority then Tina, her daughter and Monica are higher up in the pecking order. If it's a girl alliance then Vytas is high on the pecking order. Sacrifice Cat and Rupert's wife first. I'd also stress that it never goes full on boy v. girl alliances. Now is the time to make the right alliance that can blind-side people once the merge happens.

 
Is it Laura who won at Redemption Island? Got to say she is the most appealing girl on the show. Smart, confident and a great ####. She puts the younger girls to shame.

 
I found it interesting how Tina said she wanted to maintain the all girls alliance, but as soon as Kat started talking about voting Monica out, Tina went right to Monica, in front of the person they were supposedly voting out, and told her about what Kat said. Tina is selling the all girl alliance to her tribe, but that is not what she really wants, or she would have kept her mouth shut about what Kat told her.

I think Tina is smarter than she appears, and is good at manipulating the game without looking like she is manipulating the game.

I also think Tyson, as in past seasons, thinks he is a whole lot smarter than he really is. His banter about how much Aras was screwing things up did not seem at all convincing.

 
Loved the previews with Tina taking about being a grandmother "I would love it if Katie and Vytas were a thing, I've known him 40 hours, he's stolen from people to pay for his heroin habit, and did hard time for it. THIS IS THE ROMANCE I ALWAYS WANTED FOR MY KATIE!!"

Katie seems more and more awkward with every episode but I'm still into her. Guess it's the boobs.

I'm gonna assume that the meeting between Vytas, Monica, and Tina where Kat was discussed, the decision was made right there to axe Kat. I think Vytas would have done a better job of planting seeds of doubt and scrambling to save his bacon.

 
The previews show Tyson talking to the group about voting out Aras. Seems risky at this point. On that tribe it is 3 vs 3 between vets and noobs. If they vote out Aras, that is another vet gone ... and on the heels of Kat being voted out. That would be a risk when they merge as the noobs would have the numbers then.

But, the "blood" relationships could put a wrinkle into things.

 
Sarnoff said:
PinkydaPimp said:
Statorama said:
TheIronSheik said:
Watching Rupert's wife makes me feel awkward. Everything she does, I feel bad for her.
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she gives me a hard off
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she looks like beaker from the muppets
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Although I would have absolutely loved it if, when she arrived that night at Redemption Island, she said "I hope Rupert doesn't break up with me because I didn't make the merge."
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Yeah Kat giving her a run for the money in the pity department. That was really kind of sad.

 
If you are Monica, Tina and Tina's daughter you have Vytas then Laura lined up as the next two to go. Monica just made it that it would either be her or Vytas to go next. Stupid. Of course we know their is a merge coming so it doesn't matter.

 
Daywalker said:
If you are Monica, Tina and Tina's daughter you have Vytas then Laura lined up as the next two to go. Monica just made it that it would either be her or Vytas to go next. Stupid. Of course we know their is a merge coming so it doesn't matter.
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Monica really had no say in it if Tina and Katie wanted to keep Vytas over Laura. Tina is the one calling the shots.

 
Mile High said:
Daywalker said:
If you are Monica, Tina and Tina's daughter you have Vytas then Laura lined up as the next two to go. Monica just made it that it would either be her or Vytas to go next. Stupid. Of course we know their is a merge coming so it doesn't matter.
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Monica really had no say in it if Tina and Katie wanted to keep Vytas over Laura. Tina is the one calling the shots.
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Katie wanted to vote Vytas out. Monica was as influential as Tina, in this instance, in deciding that vote.

 
Corporation said:
Sarnoff said:
PinkydaPimp said:
Statorama said:
TheIronSheik said:
Watching Rupert's wife makes me feel awkward. Everything she does, I feel bad for her.
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she gives me a hard off
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she looks like beaker from the muppets
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Although I would have absolutely loved it if, when she arrived that night at Redemption Island, she said "I hope Rupert doesn't break up with me because I didn't make the merge."
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Yeah Kat giving her a run for the money in the pity department. That was really kind of sad.
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Her statement, something like "a puzzle, I can't even spell" was a perfect way to sum up her air time on her two seasons.

 
HughHoney said:
snogger said:
Juxtatarot said:
Stupid, stupid girls!
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:goodposting: Had to know the merge was coming.. Do they really believe he is going to bring his brother over to their side? :loco:
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Aras might join his brother with the women. Try to take out Tyson or Kats bf.

Terrible long term strategy by the women. Laura would get no votes at final and can be manipulated easily.
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I don't know. At the merge, Tina is probably looking to take the target off her and her daughter. And she does so by placing the target on Vytas and Aras.

Now if Laura B makes it back, the alliance should be Tina, Laura, Aras and their family member.

 
The Dude said:
HughHoney said:
snogger said:
Juxtatarot said:
Stupid, stupid girls!
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:goodposting: Had to know the merge was coming.. Do they really believe he is going to bring his brother over to their side? :loco:
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Aras might join his brother with the women. Try to take out Tyson or Kats bf.

Terrible long term strategy by the women. Laura would get no votes at final and can be manipulated easily.
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I don't know. At the merge, Tina is probably looking to take the target off her and her daughter. And she does so by placing the target on Vytas and Aras.

Now if Laura B makes it back, the alliance should be Tina, Laura, Aras and their family member.
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And why wouldn't she? She's got to be the odds on favorite among that group to successfully cling to a totem pole for hours, right? Seems a way better bet than the young, fit guy or the 110 lb fitness instructor chick.

 
Man of Zen said:
The Dude said:
HughHoney said:
snogger said:
Juxtatarot said:
Stupid, stupid girls!
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:goodposting: Had to know the merge was coming.. Do they really believe he is going to bring his brother over to their side? :loco:
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Aras might join his brother with the women. Try to take out Tyson or Kats bf.

Terrible long term strategy by the women. Laura would get no votes at final and can be manipulated easily.
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I don't know. At the merge, Tina is probably looking to take the target off her and her daughter. And she does so by placing the target on Vytas and Aras.

Now if Laura B makes it back, the alliance should be Tina, Laura, Aras and their family member.
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And why wouldn't she? She's got to be the odds on favorite among that group to successfully cling to a totem pole for hours, right? Seems a way better bet than the young, fit guy or the 110 lb fitness instructor chick.
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I think he means Laura M., not Laura B.

 
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