***Official Sweet Science Thread*** (9 Viewers)

[BustedKnuckles]

Ive seen Broner favored for tonight's fight as much as -5000, dont think this one is going to last very long. Assuming he does dominate, Im ready for him to either move up to the loaded Jr Welter division or down to fight Gamboa. There's nothing worth his time at Lightweight right now.

Without the Banks-Mitchell undercard, we’ll get to see Sakio Bika vs. Nikola Sjekloca as the warm-up act. Both weighted 167.5 pounds for this super welterweight title elimination fight. Once in a blue moon, a fighter gets a chance like this on a much bigger stage and makes the most of it. Bika (30-5-2, 21 KOs), age 33, might be best known for winning the reality TV show “The Contender” in 2007. He was on the 2000 Olympic team for Camaroon, and now fights out of Australia.Sjekloca (25-0, 7 KOs), age 34, is from Montenegro and has made easy work of his opponents in Europe so far. This is his first fight in the U.S., so we’ll see how he likes the Jersey Shore air in Atlantic City.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Ive seen Broner favored for tonight's fight as much as -5000, dont think this one is going to last very long. Assuming he does dominate, Im ready for him to either move up to the loaded Jr Welter division or down to fight Gamboa. There's nothing worth his time at Lightweight right now.

so far im lovin this match up...rees is giving Broner a go. I love the way Rees steps into his punches. I doubt he can sustain this but its fun to watch.

 

[TLEF316]

He's just too gifted. Good stoppage. Broner would have killed him.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

He's just too gifted. Good stoppage. Broner would have killed him.

agreed

 

[Tremendous Upside]

All of Broner's antics aside, it's nice to see such a talented fighter also have a killer instinctYou get the feeling Mayweather would have danced to a decision tonight, taking little damage but not being entertaining

 

[southeastjerome]

Can't wait until he starts fighting guys who match up a little better with him.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Another dominating performance from Broner...such power. Really nice to see a fighter who wants to go out and dominate rather than settle for a decision win.

 

[Ilov80s]

Another dominating performance from Broner...such power. Really nice to see a fighter who wants to go out and dominate rather than settle for a decision win.

He was fighting a midget that in no way could have hurt him. I like Broner, but this win didn't impress me in the slightest.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Another dominating performance from Broner...such power. Really nice to see a fighter who wants to go out and dominate rather than settle for a decision win.

He was fighting a midget that in no way could have hurt him. I like Broner, but this win didn't impress me in the slightest.

I agree, but it's not like he went out there and just coasted. Would've been easy for him to just sleepwalk to a 12-round UD....he's one of my favorites to watch just because he's not that kind of fighter.

 

[TLEF316]

I think everyone is anxious to see what Broner does against legitimate competition. We'll get a chance relatively soon. Based on what I've seen, I just don't see any way that he isn't legit. He's strong, fast, aggressive and accurate. He's a total doosh, but I still can't look away. And oh yeah, he's only 23. Sky is the limit.

 

[southeastjerome]

I think everyone is anxious to see what Broner does against legitimate competition. We'll get a chance relatively soon. Based on what I've seen, I just don't see any way that he isn't legit. He's strong, fast, aggressive and accurate. He's a total doosh, but I still can't look away. And oh yeah, he's only 23. Sky is the limit.

I agree, he definitely is the real deal. That's why I don't want to see him fight cream puffs. We all know he is good, but how good is he? How will he react when he fights someone that is in the same ballpark as he is as far as talent is concerned. He has tremendous speed and power. I do think he is trying to hard to have the persona of Mayweather. At least Floyd acknowledges his opponents after the fight. Broner acted like he didn't even know the guy's name who he was fighting.

 

[Ilov80s]

The thing is Broner has been on HBO and except for Demarco, his opponents are getting easier. I'd like to see him fight twice more this year, unify the division by beating the winner of Ricky Burns/Miguel Vazquez and then take on either Gamboa or test 140 against a guy like Ajose or Judah.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I think everyone is anxious to see what Broner does against legitimate competition. We'll get a chance relatively soon. Based on what I've seen, I just don't see any way that he isn't legit. He's strong, fast, aggressive and accurate. He's a total doosh, but I still can't look away. And oh yeah, he's only 23. Sky is the limit.

I agree, he definitely is the real deal. That's why I don't want to see him fight cream puffs. We all know he is good, but how good is he? How will he react when he fights someone that is in the same ballpark as he is as far as talent is concerned. He has tremendous speed and power. I do think he is trying to hard to have the persona of Mayweather. At least Floyd acknowledges his opponents after the fight. Broner acted like he didn't even know the guy's name who he was fighting.

Rees tagged him flush a few times , if he`s in there with a guy who can bang we may see how tough his beard really is.

 

[Kenny Powers]

The thing is Broner has been on HBO and except for Demarco, his opponents are getting easier. I'd like to see him fight twice more this year, unify the division by beating the winner of Ricky Burns/Miguel Vazquez and then take on either Gamboa or test 140 against a guy like Ajose or Judah.

This is essentially what I said before the fight. Ive never seen Burns or Vazquez yet, but by all accounts they arent near as good as Broner. Like I said, the time is now to fight Gamboa, or if not move up to the loaded 140 where he can fight the best in his weight range.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Ive seen Broner favored for tonight's fight as much as -5000, dont think this one is going to last very long. Assuming he does dominate, Im ready for him to either move up to the loaded Jr Welter division or down to fight Gamboa. There's nothing worth his time at Lightweight right now.

Without the Banks-Mitchell undercard, we’ll get to see Sakio Bika vs. Nikola Sjekloca as the warm-up act. Both weighted 167.5 pounds for this super welterweight title elimination fight. Once in a blue moon, a fighter gets a chance like this on a much bigger stage and makes the most of it. Bika (30-5-2, 21 KOs), age 33, might be best known for winning the reality TV show “The Contender” in 2007. He was on the 2000 Olympic team for Camaroon, and now fights out of Australia.Sjekloca (25-0, 7 KOs), age 34, is from Montenegro and has made easy work of his opponents in Europe so far. This is his first fight in the U.S., so we’ll see how he likes the Jersey Shore air in Atlantic City.

Bika is always entertaining, this time he was dominant. He's sort of the Glen Johnson of his division, he's not an easy win. Interested to see who he fights next after this impressive performance.

 

[Ilov80s]

Ive seen Broner favored for tonight's fight as much as -5000, dont think this one is going to last very long. Assuming he does dominate, Im ready for him to either move up to the loaded Jr Welter division or down to fight Gamboa. There's nothing worth his time at Lightweight right now.

Without the Banks-Mitchell undercard, we’ll get to see Sakio Bika vs. Nikola Sjekloca as the warm-up act. Both weighted 167.5 pounds for this super welterweight title elimination fight. Once in a blue moon, a fighter gets a chance like this on a much bigger stage and makes the most of it. Bika (30-5-2, 21 KOs), age 33, might be best known for winning the reality TV show “The Contender” in 2007. He was on the 2000 Olympic team for Camaroon, and now fights out of Australia.Sjekloca (25-0, 7 KOs), age 34, is from Montenegro and has made easy work of his opponents in Europe so far. This is his first fight in the U.S., so we’ll see how he likes the Jersey Shore air in Atlantic City.

Bika is always entertaining, this time he was dominant. He's sort of the Glen Johnson of his division, he's not an easy win. Interested to see who he fights next after this impressive performance.

Problem is at 168 there's nowhere to go. Andre Ward has already beaten him and it was a total one sided affair. I guess Bika could rematch Bute. 168 is kind of a bore. Ward is a mile better than Froch and Froch is 5 miles from anyone else.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I think everyone is anxious to see what Broner does against legitimate competition. We'll get a chance relatively soon. Based on what I've seen, I just don't see any way that he isn't legit. He's strong, fast, aggressive and accurate. He's a total doosh, but I still can't look away. And oh yeah, he's only 23. Sky is the limit.

I agree, he definitely is the real deal. That's why I don't want to see him fight cream puffs. We all know he is good, but how good is he? How will he react when he fights someone that is in the same ballpark as he is as far as talent is concerned. He has tremendous speed and power. I do think he is trying to hard to have the persona of Mayweather. At least Floyd acknowledges his opponents after the fight. Broner acted like he didn't even know the guy's name who he was fighting.

It does seem like Broner is doing Mayweather's thing, but why not? The guy is the most successful boxer in over a decade, easily. At the same time, he hasn't proven near as much to have earned the swagger. I respect PBF, but dislike him, and my biggest problem with him is it seems like he fights his opponents at the right time for him, and has ducked others. If Floyd decides to fight Sergio Martinez, I will forever rest my hate on him. As for Broner, he's only 23 and has a lot of time to not only mature as a fighter, but as an entertainer.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Ive seen Broner favored for tonight's fight as much as -5000, dont think this one is going to last very long. Assuming he does dominate, Im ready for him to either move up to the loaded Jr Welter division or down to fight Gamboa. There's nothing worth his time at Lightweight right now.

Without the Banks-Mitchell undercard, we’ll get to see Sakio Bika vs. Nikola Sjekloca as the warm-up act. Both weighted 167.5 pounds for this super welterweight title elimination fight. Once in a blue moon, a fighter gets a chance like this on a much bigger stage and makes the most of it. Bika (30-5-2, 21 KOs), age 33, might be best known for winning the reality TV show “The Contender” in 2007. He was on the 2000 Olympic team for Camaroon, and now fights out of Australia.Sjekloca (25-0, 7 KOs), age 34, is from Montenegro and has made easy work of his opponents in Europe so far. This is his first fight in the U.S., so we’ll see how he likes the Jersey Shore air in Atlantic City.

Bika is always entertaining, this time he was dominant. He's sort of the Glen Johnson of his division, he's not an easy win. Interested to see who he fights next after this impressive performance.

Problem is at 168 there's nowhere to go. Andre Ward has already beaten him and it was a total one sided affair. I guess Bika could rematch Bute. 168 is kind of a bore. Ward is a mile better than Froch and Froch is 5 miles from anyone else.

After seeing that fight, Abraham, Stieglitz, or Dirrell seem like worthy opponents, as well as the loser of Froch-Kessler II.As far as Im concerned, SOG is arguably the best P4P right now, so yeah there's no point in him fighting Bika again.

 

[Ilov80s]

Broner is certainly inspired by Floyd, but he puts his own spin on it. Besides, half the rappers in the world are on the same gimmick. Boxing needs characters, it needs heels and like Floyd, Broner knows this.

 

[Ilov80s]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/19/floyd-mayweather-inks-record-breaking-deal-with-showtime/169928/Floyd just signed an unheard of 6 PPV deal with Showtime/CBS. He will fight Robert Guerero in May and over the following 28 months fight up to 5 more times. It will be heavily cross promoted through CBS and is expected to be the single richest contract in all of spots.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/19/floyd-mayweather-inks-record-breaking-deal-with-showtime/169928/Floyd just signed an unheard of 6 PPV deal with Showtime/CBS. He will fight Robert Guerero in May and over the following 18 months fight up to 5 more times. It will be heavily cross promoted through CBS and is expected to be the single richest contract in all of spots.

interesting.....what 6 fights would you like to see?

 

[Ilov80s]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/19/floyd-mayweather-inks-record-breaking-deal-with-showtime/169928/Floyd just signed an unheard of 6 PPV deal with Showtime/CBS. He will fight Robert Guerero in May and over the following 18 months fight up to 5 more times. It will be heavily cross promoted through CBS and is expected to be the single richest contract in all of spots.

interesting.....what 6 fights would you like to see?

Some combo of Manny, Bradley, Canelo, Broner, Matthysse, Trout. No way he takes that many tough fights. He will likely mix in some "cupcakes" like Andre Berto, Devon Alexander, Danny Garcia, or Marcis Maidana.

 

[Kenny Powers]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/19/floyd-mayweather-inks-record-breaking-deal-with-showtime/169928/Floyd just signed an unheard of 6 PPV deal with Showtime/CBS. He will fight Robert Guerero in May and over the following 28 months fight up to 5 more times. It will be heavily cross promoted through CBS and is expected to be the single richest contract in all of spots.

Love the contract as it means we should see PBF fight twice a year (something he hasnt done since 2007) for the next 3 years. Im surprised he's fighting Guerrero though because not only does he have a weak resume (Berto and a 40yr old Casamayor only decent wins), but he doesnt have the name recognition. Is it because if Guerrero won again he wouldve been mandatory to fight Floyd in his next fight or 2? If thats the case it makes sense to get it out of the way now instead of his likely "bigger" fight later this year or early next year.What can you tell me about Guerrero? Never seen him fight. Is that fight against Berto viewable online anywhere?

 

[Kenny Powers]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/19/floyd-mayweather-inks-record-breaking-deal-with-showtime/169928/

Floyd just signed an unheard of 6 PPV deal with Showtime/CBS. He will fight Robert Guerero in May and over the following 18 months fight up to 5 more times. It will be heavily cross promoted through CBS and is expected to be the single richest contract in all of spots.

interesting.....what 6 fights would you like to see?

Some combo of Manny, Bradley, Canelo, Broner, Matthysse, Trout. No way he takes that many tough fights. He will likely mix in some "cupcakes" like Andre Berto, Devon Alexander, Danny Garcia, or Marcis Maidana.

Im not really interested in seeing him fight Bradley as stylistically I think its a bad matchup and Floyd will pick him apart, but Id love to see the rest. I actually figured it was going to be Bradley or Alexander for this fight that'll be against Guerrero. Berto hasnt progressed like it looked like he would so I dont think thats wortwhile at this time, I dont know enough about Garcia, but I think Maidana is at least interesting since he has by far the most power in the division.

 

[Steve Tasker]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/19/floyd-mayweather-inks-record-breaking-deal-with-showtime/169928/Floyd just signed an unheard of 6 PPV deal with Showtime/CBS. He will fight Robert Guerero in May and over the following 28 months fight up to 5 more times. It will be heavily cross promoted through CBS and is expected to be the single richest contract in all of spots.

Love the contract as it means we should see PBF fight twice a year (something he hasnt done since 2007) for the next 3 years. Im surprised he's fighting Guerrero though because not only does he have a weak resume (Berto and a 40yr old Casamayor only decent wins), but he doesnt have the name recognition. Is it because if Guerrero won again he wouldve been mandatory to fight Floyd in his next fight or 2? If thats the case it makes sense to get it out of the way now instead of his likely "bigger" fight later this year or early next year.What can you tell me about Guerrero? Never seen him fight. Is that fight against Berto viewable online anywhere?

Knowing Floyd, he's probably getting a massive payday anyway no matter who he fights. Aside from Manny, I'm not really sure it matters a ton from a financial standpoint who Floyd fights....Floyd IS the draw....boxing-heads will watch regardless because it's PBF, and the average sports fan isn't really going to be swayed by whether he's fighting Robert Guerrero or Canelo Alvarez. Canelo (for example) might draw the Mexican viewership, but I'm not really sure how that works.That's just my impression, at least. I'd love to see some numbers.

 

[Kenny Powers]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/02/19/floyd-mayweather-inks-record-breaking-deal-with-showtime/169928/Floyd just signed an unheard of 6 PPV deal with Showtime/CBS. He will fight Robert Guerero in May and over the following 28 months fight up to 5 more times. It will be heavily cross promoted through CBS and is expected to be the single richest contract in all of spots.

Love the contract as it means we should see PBF fight twice a year (something he hasnt done since 2007) for the next 3 years. Im surprised he's fighting Guerrero though because not only does he have a weak resume (Berto and a 40yr old Casamayor only decent wins), but he doesnt have the name recognition. Is it because if Guerrero won again he wouldve been mandatory to fight Floyd in his next fight or 2? If thats the case it makes sense to get it out of the way now instead of his likely "bigger" fight later this year or early next year.What can you tell me about Guerrero? Never seen him fight. Is that fight against Berto viewable online anywhere?

Knowing Floyd, he's probably getting a massive payday anyway no matter who he fights. Aside from Manny, I'm not really sure it matters a ton from a financial standpoint who Floyd fights....Floyd IS the draw....boxing-heads will watch regardless because it's PBF, and the average sports fan isn't really going to be swayed by whether he's fighting Robert Guerrero or Canelo Alvarez. Canelo (for example) might draw the Mexican viewership, but I'm not really sure how that works.That's just my impression, at least. I'd love to see some numbers.

Your point that Floyd is the draw is true no doubt, and like I said Im not familiar with Guerrero so I hate to go out on a limb, but I get the impression he has next to no shot to beat PBF, and the vegas odds will show as much as the fight nears. PBF will sell a ton of PPV's regardless, but a best (or close to it) matchup possible will sell more. Like I said earlier, I think even a fight vs Bradley or Alexander would sell considerably more.I honestly wont purchase this PPV, maybe Ill go somewhere to pay a cover that is showing it, but otherwise Ill try and find a stream that night or watch the next week. That said, Id buy Mayweather-Canelo in a second, and I think Canelo still needs another big win or 2 to deserve a shot at PBF. Id argue the opposite of you - a matchup like this (Guerrero) wont have boxing fans buying but instead watching for free on the internet or on the HBO replay a week later.

 

[Ilov80s]

Guerrero vs Berto is on HBO Go and likely YouTube. It's well worth watching and was a FOTY nominee. I don't think Guererro has much of a shot, but he is tough, has no real weaknesses and it tough as nails. On the other hand, he has no real major strengths either.

 

[Ilov80s]

Forbes had an article on Floyd's deal. They estimate if he fights all 6 fights, it will be the richest contract in sports history: $200+ million over 30 months. ARods deal was 275 over 10 years.

 

[Ilov80s]

Boxing OD this weekend with 6 different boxing cards. It helps make up for a really boring sports weekend otherwise.

 

[Steve Tasker]

Peterson/Holt was solid. Holt can take a beating though.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Peterson/Holt was solid. Holt can take a beating though.

Forgot about this, not surprised to see Peterson got the KO. Hopefully he makes a nice comeback after the PED thing.Not expecting a great fight tonight, but K-9 Bundrage usually has pretty entertaining fights and goes for the KO. He's actually looked decent and has a good record since being on The Contender.

 

[Ilov80s]

The Floyd lovefest in Detroit.

 

[southeastjerome]

The Floyd lovefest in Detroit.

Seriously, the showtime guys were downright giddy talking to Floyd it was awkward. I thought Brian Kenny would have handled it differently. He was like Olbermann talking to Obama. Floyd is not a good corner guy, not only did he tweet during the first round, but, in between one of the rounds:Floyd: How you feelin?Love: GoodFloyd: You want some water?Love: (drinks water)Floyd: You want some more water?Love: No, I'm goodFloyd: You want some more water?Love: No

 

[southeastjerome]

Geezus, Ishe get your stuff together. Dude is crying post fight, can't stop crying during his interview and Jim Gray goes in for the kill shot asking him about how he tried to commit suicide. Of course then Mayweather steps in for Ishe and takes his 4th interview of the night.

 

[Kenny Powers]

While neither fight was anything to talk about, both were fairly entertaining.I had that first fight 7-3 Love, but 3-2 Findley after 5. A lot of close rounds there, I could even see 6-4, but Love won the fight.2nd fight surprised me, Bundrage is usually pretty hungry and aggressive but I didnt see it. I had it 8-4 Smith, plus the deduction (which didnt make sense), and 116-111 which 2 of the judges had makes sense. Agreed, the interviews post-fight were awkward. Dude is emotional, why u gotta ask him about considering killing himself?!Either way, excited for PBF on SHO. Certainly looks like theyll give him as much attention as possible.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Former US Olympian Gary Russell Jr is on SHO tonight. He's 21-0 but it looks like he still hasnt really faced anyone.

 

[Ilov80s]

Former US Olympian Gary Russell Jr is on SHO tonight. He's 21-0 but it looks like he still hasnt really faced anyone.

He has amazing upside but yeah, no real opposition yet. I'm not sure what his handlers are waiting for. He is 24, has tons of experience and electric skill set.

 

[mr. furley]

Bibb v Gradovich last night was solid

 

[Kenny Powers]

Former US Olympian Gary Russell Jr is on SHO tonight. He's 21-0 but it looks like he still hasnt really faced anyone.

He has amazing upside but yeah, no real opposition yet. I'm not sure what his handlers are waiting for. He is 24, has tons of experience and electric skill set.

Just watched the replay, he looked great throwing a shutout despite in all likelihood breaking his left hand in the 4th or 5th round. He didnt even throw 1 left for what looked like 3 straight rounds and still dominated the rounds. His opponent only landed 2 jabs, Russell landed twice as many jabs as Gusev threw, and landed more total punches than Gusev threw. Russell was a huge -4500 favorite I saw yesterday, so Im mostly just impressed he still won half the fight one-handed.Its been obvious that he's ready for the step up in competition. Considering someone with his amateur background and pedigree, I dont see why he's been on such a slow track since turning pro but I guess you cant really have someone who is 14-0 be in a title fight. If he did in fact break his hand, the timing sucks for him as he said before and after the fight he's seeking a title fight at featherweight in his next couple fights, but more importantly this doesnt become a long term problem for him as he's already broken both hands before.As for that main event, if I didnt have it on DVR I wouldnt turned it off halfway thru but watched it just to see the scorecards. All were about what I had it as and Abril won it fairly clearly I thought. He said he wants to fight Broner, please god no.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Floyd ducking Canelo?

 

[Ilov80s]

Lots of fights this weekend. ESPN and Showtime have cards tonight. Tomorrow on HBO Bernard Hopkins vs Tavoris Cloud

 

[Kenny Powers]

Lots of fights this weekend. ESPN and Showtime have cards tonight. Tomorrow on HBO Bernard Hopkins vs Tavoris Cloud

Victor Cayo on FNF on ESPN in a little bit vs Emmanuel Taylor tonight. Havent seen Cayo in a few years, but I was impressed when I saw him before (I believe then undefeated). His only losses are to Maidana, Peterson, and Campbell so not bad at all.Totally psyched for the Hopkins-Cloud fight, even moreso that it isnt a PPV. B-Hop is my favorite fighter, so no surprise, but I think stylistically its a real intriguing matchup.

 

[Ilov80s]

Cayo v Taylor was a fun scrap. I think the stoppage was early, but Cayo wasn't going to survive one way or another. On to Showtime now.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Yeahm good fight, cant complain on the decision,

 

[southeastjerome]

Aren't there a few MA boxing guys who frequent this thread? Anyone going to the card in Lowell on 3/16?

http://www.tsongascenter.com/event_details.php?id=238

 

[Kenny Powers]

So hyped for this....Lets go Executioner!!!!!!!

Never seen Thurman, also interested to see him.

 

[Ilov80s]

Thurman looks good, he has improved each time I have seen him.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Thurman looks good, he has improved each time I have seen him.

Loving this fight so far...Zaveck's possibly won at least a couple rounds, and I expect this to get even more interesting in the championship rounds.Lederman just announced a shutout for Thurman right now (after round 7). I think Zaveck's won a round or 2.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Omar and Snoop sighting!!!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

B - HOP lookin good....and that refs bad call on the cut better not make a difference in this fight,that was a clean punch all day long